Name: ビル・ゲイツがアーミル・カーンと出会う (Bill Gates meets Aamir Khan)
Uploaded: 2021-01-14T05:09:00.000Z
Duration: 42 min 5 s
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Hello and welcome to India Questions. It is very, very rare, and this programme has been

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around for a long time, and to get in my opinion two of the really greatest human beings that

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we have living on this planet today and both together. They have never been together before,

although I have had them individually. They have so much in common. Bill Gates and Aamir

Khan. What do they have in common? Two of the world's greatest school and college dropouts.

So if you are going to drop out then don't worry, this is your future. They are also

in a way moving on to phase two of their lives, a new chapter. I can give you a little anecdote.

About two years ago or may be a little more than that when Bill Gates was in phase one

of his life, and we were talking to whole lot of software people, rather than more interesting

people like you, I asked him to give a sound check, say one two three four and he said

one billion, two billion, three billion. He was counting notes then and now he is counting

people being saved by vaccination, by vaccines, in terms of millions and millions of them.

It's a huge terrific change in your life, phase two. And Aamir, in a way you have also

moved from, of course you have not given up your earlier acting career, but you have also

moved on to social issues with this more path breaking television programme, which had a

huge impact and everybody said you are nuts, why are you doing this sort of stuff? Why

don't you stick to movies? So what motivated, what caused that change?

You know I don't know. I think it's; you know I was at a discussion sometime back and you

know one of the questions asked to my team in Satyamev Jayate was, what are the good

qualities that a NGO should have? It was a question asked to Satya actually, my director.

And he said that one of the good qualities any NGO should have, or any person who wants

to be a part of social service should have is that, it's not just the emotion of wanting

to do something for somebody else, which is in itself a good emotion, that you want to

do for someone, but if you feel that your life is incomplete if you don't. So you are

doing it for yourself really, of course you are doing it for someone else. But I think

that's what is important. If, and it's something that happens to you if you feel like. It doesn't

have to happen to you. But I think in me what grew was this feeling that I need it to for

myself, do something. But I felt better about myself when I felt; I feel I am so privileged

in so many ways. And I feel that. I really feel that when I see people around me who

are not as privileged, I can't just sit by and be comfortable with that. There is a need

in me to reach out and perhaps help if I can.

And in a way you are lucky to have a position where people will listen

And I like it to use it to the best of my abilities. So I guess that's why I have moved

into this space where I am. It's for my own emotional or mental, you know, peace of mind

Bill Gates you have also got a little more emotional in phase two. I have seen you almost

choke up talking about your Dad, about how your wife motivated you, how your Dad's your

hero, and how all this means a little more to your heart then your head. So what motivated

Well I think it's very similar. I loved my career in software and being part of building

Microsoft, the personal computer and 3D internet. In my 20s and 30s I was fanatical. I saw what

innovation could do. But there came a point when I thought that I should turn that work

over to other people and think about how innovation, does it naturally benefit everyone? Does it

reach down to the person? In fact I got a chance to see all of that as I travelled the

world, and a big believer in innovation. I thought okay, we can push it in that direction.

So it's allowed me to learn a lot of new things and I wouldn't be able to do it except for

the luck, the ability to resources that came from that first career. And actually use a

lot that I learnt then in terms of engaging scientists and driving innovation as fast

And how important was your wife in this chapter two of your life?

When I first said to my wife that I was considering retiring from my full time work in Microsoft.

Well she was careful not to jump on it because she wanted it to be my decision you know,

that I will never look back and feel like that wasn't, that I really picked the time,

that I felt comfortable with that. Because it has been so central to my life I'm certainly

enthused about it. During my time in Microsoft, I always had somebody who was my key partner,

Paul Allen in founding a new era. Steve Ballmer as the company became big and complicated

and now in this era it's truly my wife who's my key confidant and so we get to do this

And a great motivator. She is a driving force behind a lot of what you do.

Absolutely, she is very energetic about these things. She is actually in Malaysia this week

at a Women Delivers Conference, talking about the reproductive health and how women get

access to those tools. She is equally passionate and also was at Microsoft. So some of the

ways we think about the measurement and managing people, getting the best people, that's a

Aamir when Bill Gates got launched into this phase two, he talked to and convinced a lot

of billionaires around the world, especially Warren Buffet, to donate a lot. To be philanthropic

and donate to his organisation and to other organisations and make changes. What about

India, we do not see enough of that. We have got a great example of Azim Premji whom you

Yes in our show we did showcase what Mr Premji is doing and I think he is doing really wonderful

work and really we should, we should all take a cue from that. And certainly I feel that,

I mean I do believe that in India there is a lot of philanthropy, there are huge amounts

that we often donate, but it's usually to religious organisations. We donate a lot to

religion. Maybe that is a need in us to try and safeguard our passage into heaven and,

I don't know; you know because we feel that if we donate a lot to temples, mosques or

you know religious institutions and that's where I see most of the big donations going.

So it's not that, it's not that we don't donate. We donate huge amounts but they go into religious

institutions. Whereas we don't donate to education or to health care. And I personally feel that

if you, if you, you know donate to education and health care, the God up there is going

to be really happy. So he'll probably be happier. So I mean I think that it's time that people

who are well off financially in India and who would like to contribute to nation building,

to building this nation into what it can be and to trying to achieve its full potential

for the youth for the kids of our country; and for you know, emotional happiness for

all of us, that is one area that we can really help in, you know, in donating huge sums to

education, healthcare and other such things rather than just religion.

You think like you need two hands to clap or it's a bit of a failure, the lack of institutions

that they can feel save, the money going to the right place. Like if you donate to the

PM's Relief Fund, you just feel God knows what will happen, where will it go, be part

of the budget. But if you got something, the Indian equivalent of the Gates Foundation

or something, where you know, I spend the money here it's not going to go to salaries,

I don't agree with that entirely Prannoy, because I feel that while yes, we are concerned

about you know where are we putting our money, or where are we donating. So that's a concern

that all of us should have certainly. But I don't think that you won't find any institution

If you will look you will find them in India as well now

You will. It will take you a week or so to find it out. And you will if you really are

interested. I don't think it is that difficult to find out.