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  • on the island of hawaii sits a dormant

  • volcano named mauna kea

  • it's the highest point in hawaii and if

  • you measure from the sea floor

  • it's the tallest mountain in the world

  • and this height

  • paired with a few other important

  • elements has made it home to numerous

  • observatories but this mountain

  • isn't just a perfect place to peer deep

  • into the vastness of our universe

  • it's also a very sacred place for the

  • local native hawaiian people

  • who have been protesting the

  • construction of a newly planned

  • telescope

  • since the site was selected for

  • construction in 2009

  • this film from co-directors carter lau

  • and duncan hager

  • as well as their team from chapman

  • university looks to shed light on an

  • important debate that may have been

  • tragically overlooked

  • so many times in the past science versus

  • culture

  • this is beyond the mana

  • i have no choice but to be here to

  • defend

  • that place that is most sacred to me and

  • that's the summit of mauna kea

  • now construction of the 30 meter

  • telescope is set to begin this morning

  • on mauna kea

  • and it's being met with some big

  • protests

  • we're told there were 33 people who were

  • arrested

  • it's time for native people to stand up

  • for their rights

  • astronomy at its core is understanding

  • the universe and our place in it

  • my dream is to work at one of the

  • observatories on mauna kea

  • as a native hawaiian she says the

  • telescope is part of her heritage

  • there comes a time in your life where

  • you have to stand for something

  • we hawaiians can look up at the stars

  • and

  • know that we are all connected this is

  • an important stand this is the last

  • stand

  • this is not a game this is for real

  • long long ago when the world was new

  • wakea the sky

  • father looked down and saw the beauty of

  • papahanaumoku the earth mother

  • from this love was born mountains which

  • rose high

  • above papa's waves touching the face of

  • their father

  • he placed beautiful lay of clouds on

  • their heads

  • and papa placed beautiful lay of seafoam

  • on their necks

  • kamauna awakea the mountain of wakaya

  • was the kupuna or firstborn and was held

  • in high

  • esteem as the pico the center

  • of the beginning of the hawaii island

  • man was first introduced to the islands

  • around 400 to 500

  • a.d groups of polynesians from the

  • marquesas islands

  • first landed on the southern coast kalai

  • on the big island of hawaii traversing

  • the ocean

  • on double hulk canoes and navigating by

  • the only tool they needed

  • the stars

  • [Music]

  • the 30 meter telescope on mauna kea is

  • the best instrument to answer one of

  • humanity's biggest questions

  • is there life outside of earth now

  • construction of the 30 meter telescope

  • is set to begin this morning on mauna

  • kea

  • and it's being met with some big

  • protests

  • billy freitas and at least a dozen

  • kupuna bound themselves together with

  • miley lay across the base of mauna kea

  • access road

  • continuing to follow breaking news we're

  • live at mauna kea access road this

  • morning we showed you just moments ago

  • live on wake up today the first kupuna

  • being arrested

  • we're told there were 33 people who were

  • arrested

  • now they chose to be cited and then

  • released

  • today was an emotionally intense day for

  • both sides

  • because those who were arrested were

  • kupuna officials also say it was hard

  • for them because the officers

  • making the arrests were taking friends

  • and family into custody

  • [Music]

  • my name is dr noinoy wong wilson i'm one

  • of the kupuna

  • who have been residing here in the camps

  • the reason we've been here for 155 days

  • is to stop the tmt trucks from going up

  • the mountain

  • to begin their construction project

  • [Music]

  • i was arrested on july 17th along with

  • 37 other kupuna

  • for sitting on the road and blocking

  • tmt trucks from going up onto the

  • mountain

  • and it was painful it was emotional

  • and we all cried but they understood

  • they understood that this was going to

  • be a long fight

  • this is a fight about our mountain and

  • about the sacredness of it

  • and the intrusion of the astronomy

  • industry

  • on on our summit for the last 50 years

  • so there are already 13 telescope

  • facilities

  • and then this 14th one is now being

  • proposed

  • it's not the science that we fight it's

  • the size of the building and the

  • location

  • at the summit area which is the most

  • sacred part of the mountain

  • and that's why we sit on the road

  • [Music]

  • new perspective tonight on the

  • controversial telescope that's gaining

  • more and more attention

  • it comes from a student whose voice is

  • now being amplified by

  • thousands milani neal started a petition

  • this week in support of the telescope

  • neal wants the world to know many native

  • hawaiians such as herself support

  • construction of the 30 meter telescope

  • this petition has been going

  • for four days and we have over two

  • thousand signatures

  • as a native hawaiian she says the

  • telescope is part of her heritage

  • despite some backlash to her pro tmt

  • petition

  • neal hopes debate over the telescope

  • doesn't become crass

  • or mean-spirited

  • my name is mailani neal i am native

  • hawaiian

  • and i was born and raised in kona on the

  • big island

  • i'm currently a phd student at new

  • mexico tech

  • where i am studying physics and

  • astronomy instrumentation

  • my ancestors navigated by the stars

  • to travel to the unknown and discover

  • what there is

  • and i think that astronomy is doing

  • exactly that

  • my dream is to work at one of the

  • observatories on mauna kea

  • i would love to be an instrumentation

  • scientist for one of the telescopes

  • and eventually someday i would hope to

  • be a director of one of the

  • observatories

  • i'm striving to be very understanding of

  • all

  • people in this situation and i'm

  • striving to be

  • the best astronomer that i can be so

  • that i can prove

  • that you know us native hawaiians are

  • meant to be here

  • we are meant to continue to follow the

  • stars

  • as we go further beyond our planet

  • mauna kea is not the main issue monica

  • is is a symptom

  • that all stems and goes back to 1893

  • the hawaiian kingdom was overthrown in

  • 1893.

  • first of all we need to identify what is

  • the hawaiian kingdom hawaii was actually

  • part of the british empire

  • under king kamehameha iii he achieved

  • recognition of great britain

  • of hawaiian independence so basically we

  • achieved

  • what the american colonies achieved an

  • independent state

  • the whole purpose of the takeover by the

  • united states

  • was to secure pearl harbor it was

  • actually a takeover of the queen and her

  • cabinet

  • replaced her with insurgents the

  • narrative was businessmen

  • took over government from natives who

  • were unfit to govern

  • very racist very racist

  • five years later in 1898 congress just

  • passed the law

  • providing for the annexation of the

  • hawaiian islands supposedly hawaii was

  • annexed

  • the problem is american laws have no

  • effect beyond the borders of the united

  • states

  • the united states could no more annex

  • hawaii by passing a law

  • then the congress today can pass a joint

  • resolution annexing mexico

  • and the response was we're a miracle we

  • can do whatever we want

  • so why is it that nobody knows that

  • history

  • there's a reason in 1895 one of the

  • insurgents who was a trustee of the

  • kamehameha schools

  • he stated on the record that if we are

  • ever to have peace

  • and annexation the first thing to do is

  • to obliterate the past

  • obliterate the past what does that mean

  • that means remove any memory

  • of the country in the minds of the

  • people

  • in 1906 a formal policy of

  • denationalization was adopted by the

  • territory of hawaii

  • board of education these insurgents

  • obliterated

  • the national consciousness of an entire

  • population within three generations

  • so now you take all of that and you look

  • at mauna kea

  • people are learning the history that is

  • getting them to make certain decisions

  • that they wouldn't otherwise make

  • mauna kea is just part of the awakening

  • morning mom morning honey what you up to

  • today

  • hon we're gonna go stop by the east

  • asian observatory and talk with jess

  • no i can't believe she's actually going

  • to be there huh i know she's always

  • traveling

  • when i was going to school the hawaiian

  • culture was not

  • um prevalent it was not the hawaiian

  • continent was kind of recovering

  • recovering maybe

  • it was just revive it was reviving

  • at that time we weren't required to take

  • hawaiian language

  • i guess it is hard to define what

  • hawaiian

  • culture is but you know the dance

  • and the song and the language is

  • something that can be kept

  • forever but you still have to be

  • educated

  • there's a whole world out there there's

  • a whole

  • galaxy out there you know we shouldn't

  • limit ourselves

  • you know this is my first time seeing it

  • and it's a pretty it's pretty uh

  • heavy

  • i'm kind of sorry i'm kind of taking it

  • all

  • in it's not what i expected really

  • i honestly kind of wish that there were

  • uh i guess more safe

  • structures for them to be in while they

  • are up here like you know seeing

  • seeing tents makes me kind of wish that

  • there was a

  • more comfortable situation for them up

  • [Music]

  • here

  • [Music]

  • um

  • [Applause]

  • whitaker i'm eight years old

  • my name is like kama awakia

  • and it's kind of close to mauna awakea

  • and i'm like the child of the mauna

  • i think that i want to protect my mom

  • i learned being up on the mauna is

  • that how he stands strong for the mana

  • and how we stand in kabul it just

  • sends all the energy to the mauna and

  • it probably makes damona really happy

  • and i'm glad because i want

  • her to be happy

  • if it takes this kind of stand by the

  • kupuna who are sitting on the road now

  • so that our children and our

  • grandchildren and our great

  • grandchildren

  • don't have to suffer don't have to fight

  • to have a voice about our own land and

  • our own sacred spaces

  • then we will stand here until the bitter

  • [Music]

  • end

  • i haven't been back here in a year and

  • it it feels like i'm home

  • we have namaka nui our new instrument

  • coming so

  • uncle larry named that yes and so

  • it has um it has three different

  • receivers right yeah so when i was

  • describing it to him i'm like you can

  • see the coldest dark

  • you know darker stuff in the universe

  • that you can't see with your eyes

  • and i said i need something hawaiian

  • that kind of has varieties

  • and i need three of them so you say oh

  • no makanui big eyed fish

  • these are the ones that come out at

  • night and have the really big eyes

  • because they don't need that much light

  • to see i'm like well that's just perfect

  • so the three different receivers are

  • available

  • oh yeah so that's such a suiting name

  • for

  • the instrument it's perfect so my name

  • is jessica dempsey i

  • am the deputy director of the east asian

  • observatory

  • we run the james clerk maxwell telescope

  • on mauna kea

  • so the 30 meter telescope is exactly

  • that it's an optical infrared telescope

  • and it will be about three times larger

  • than the largest optical

  • telescope which is also currently up on

  • mauna kea which would be the keck

  • observatories

  • the bigger a dish or a mirror the tinier

  • the thing

  • you can see on the sky the higher the

  • resolution of the facility

  • the other thing is it means you collect

  • more light so that means you can see

  • fainter things

  • and so those two things take you into

  • new roles

  • hoping to image exoplanets for the first

  • very first time

  • that may lead us to actually being able

  • to tell whether some of those planets

  • might

  • be inhabitable for life so monica

  • is the best site for observing the

  • universe in the entire world

  • at essentially every single wavelength

  • that comes down to us

  • from the sky and there is a range of

  • amazing geographical reasons

  • why mauna kea is so still and the sky is

  • so clear

  • because of those reasons it means it's

  • perfect for astronomy

  • the hawaiians are some of the best

  • scientists on the planet they still are

  • finding the understanding of the

  • universe in the hawaiian creation chart

  • the cumuli pop

  • their context and understanding of the

  • universe

  • is mind-boggling to me

  • and when you start reading that you go

  • there is no wonder that they read

  • the sky like a book

  • [Music]

  • hi cindy just wanting to let you guys

  • know we're leaving hilo

  • with about 50 cars

  • there are a whole bunch of people who

  • joined us along the route and there were

  • people waving signs where we got down to

  • the main intersection

  • i know so i just let everybody know i

  • was trying to let poor know so she could

  • announce it but

  • let everybody okay okay thank you

  • okay all right

  • i want to take a picture because i know

  • there's some people who are not going to

  • make it all the way to kapa'a

  • i tell you this is bigger than i dreamt

  • that it was going to be

  • last night i thought we had yeah

  • last night i thought we had three cars

  • this is really exciting i wrote back i

  • called back to the mama

  • to tell everybody that we're all here

  • and i know my chitanoi

  • is live streaming so the rest of the

  • community knows where we are

  • so mahalo everybody for coming out today

  • ready one two one

  • [Applause]

  • [Music]

  • [Music]

  • our community is so divided right now

  • and so polarized

  • we're here in this community now we need

  • to find a way

  • to change how we interact to find a way

  • for

  • these things to not be on two different

  • sides of a fence

  • astronomers don't go into astronomy

  • prepared to be bad guys

  • not many of us were emotionally prepared

  • to suddenly be you know disliked to

  • suddenly be on the other side

  • now having to step into a conversation

  • from an emotional standpoint rather than

  • something that's fact-based

  • which scientists are much more

  • comfortable doing that was

  • something that we really needed to

  • change in our mindset how do we find a

  • way forward

  • for everybody one part of that is for

  • some part of the astronomy community and

  • even existing observatories to say

  • we may personally not have perpetrated

  • any of the things which have come home

  • to roost right now but we do now

  • represent some of them

  • the thing that is really exciting to me

  • is mailani is a natural leader

  • and standing here and looking towards

  • the future

  • for what we have to do here on the

  • island mailani

  • along with the young leaders and other

  • people who are finding their voice and

  • their feet

  • in the adversity that's coming up in

  • this island they're going to be the ones

  • who solve this

  • so i've had people tell me that because

  • of my beliefs

  • that i am not native hawaiian or i don't

  • deserve to be native hawaiian

  • but i believe that what makes me native

  • hawaiian is that

  • i am doing all that i can

  • to perpetuate the culture and to see

  • forth that it will be in a much better

  • place

  • than what i received it i am very

  • naively optimistic

  • and where i see this ending is that

  • we find a middle ground and find a way

  • forward for the benefit of

  • the future generations i think

  • everyone has a personal choice about

  • whether or not they want to participate

  • in what we're doing

  • i feel strongly that i have to be here

  • it is it is what everything

  • in my life has brought me to the day i

  • got arrested i just thought

  • i had never experienced this i imagine

  • if they come again it won't be much

  • different

  • and it will be a frightening experience

  • again

  • but we're prepared for it if that's what

  • it takes

  • to protect our mauna

  • [Music]

  • um

  • good morning thank you uh for joining us

  • here

  • we have been informed that

  • the 30 meter telescope will not be

  • proceeding with

  • construction at this time so we thought

  • that it would be prudent to

  • start to de-escalate and return access

  • to monaco access road

  • [Music]

  • [Music]

  • what's different today is that mauna kea

  • access road is

  • open the governor expressed his

  • disappointment that tmt will not move

  • forward for now

  • tmt leaders say mauna kea is still their

  • preferred site

  • now the question is will the

  • demonstrators leave

  • so all my girl nerds get one of these

  • you get to be either a lady nerd

  • you can say science will not be silenced

  • or you can be a feminist

  • choices i know i'm pretty hard i'm going

  • to go with steminos

  • that's michelle honey thank you so much

  • you're very welcome and thank you so

  • much for

  • taking the time to see me today yeah i'm

  • always of yours

  • i hereby dub thee a feminist

  • they're so um my mission or vacation

  • here is to

  • keep the women and girls who are in stem

  • you are going to be one of our leaders

  • going forward into the future for a

  • whole bunch of reasons and

  • girls need to see more women you know

  • blazing a trail like you are

  • and that's really important so thank you

  • we are going to change how we do science

  • how we connect culturally how this

  • community

  • grows together and there's nothing bad

  • about any of that

  • people like mailani they always get me

  • out of bed in the morning

  • that's what gives me hope

  • [Music]

  • we look at the stars and it's very

  • symbolic

  • of our past we can know that our

  • ancestors are

  • there watching us and guiding us

  • the hawaiians found us through the stars

  • this is what our ancestors did

  • but that hurt is still there since 1893

  • when our queen

  • was overthrown and justice has never

  • been done and at the same time looking

  • up at the stars and looking at spaces

  • extremely symbolic of the future of what

  • is going to

  • happen we need to find a way to change

  • how we interact to find a way for

  • these things to not be on two different

  • sides of a fence

  • hawaii is now worldly it's back on the

  • world stage

  • it's time for native people to stand up

  • for their rights

  • and to be counted it's that time we are

  • all

  • unified and we are all connected

  • we are native hawaiians we have a

  • history together and we will continue

  • into the future together

  • [Music]

  • i aspire to serve as an example

  • by being afforded the opportunities and

  • taking advantage of those opportunities

  • so that

  • we are able to pursue our dreams

  • [Music]

  • this project is not essential to the

  • livelihood of this community

  • it is not needed by the sports community

  • and it's not wanted by the people of

  • waimanalo

  • [Applause]

  • we're not talking even what's happening

  • on the big island itself a pack far from

  • the mountain even far

  • from the islands demonstrators are

  • gathering beyond our shores people in

  • anchorage alaska took to the streets

  • with signs

  • many are from hawaii but now live in the

  • 49th state

  • [Music]

  • [Applause]

  • aloha to all my relatives in hawaii

  • armenian environmental front and almost

  • our protectors stand in solidarity

  • with the kanaka maoli in the struggle to

  • stop the desecration of their ancestral

  • [Music]

  • lands

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  • we sat down with the filmmakers and

  • asked about their local connection to

  • the story

  • hi guys my name is carter lau i am one

  • of the co-directors of the film beyond

  • the mauna and i am currently in orange

  • county california

  • i'm duncan haeger i'm one of the

  • co-directors cinematographer and

  • co-editors for the film

  • and i'm located here in orange county

  • california as well

  • [Music]

  • so i was born and raised in honolulu

  • hawaii

  • and the hawaiian culture and the values

  • and morals and ideals

  • that surrounding my home are they become

  • a big part of who i am

  • and a part of you know the kind of

  • stories that i want to tell and create

  • yeah and to build off of that um i

  • remember we were brainstorming ideas

  • within the community voices program

  • a couple years ago i had done a short

  • documentary on the annexation of hawaii

  • and i always wanted to tell that story

  • in kind of a more

  • um present way involving stuff that was

  • already kind of going on so when carter

  • had you know approached me and we were

  • forming groups

  • i immediately you know jumped at this

  • idea in the storyline i felt like

  • there's so many different

  • uh players here and so many different

  • great themes about past and future

  • [Music]

  • being film students it was a little

  • intimidating at first

  • tackling such a big controversy you know

  • that's kind of on a national stage and

  • literally spending 10 days

  • up on the mountain and around oahu and

  • at different observatories

  • dealing with adults and you know facing

  • real life issues

  • like this but i think like everyone

  • we're just we're just human we're just

  • people and that's how we approached it

  • and we connected to all of them

  • that's one of the best things i think

  • about docs is that you're able to

  • connect

  • with real people and you're able to

  • empathize right there with them and

  • i think that's what we did and we came

  • up with something that was

  • i think very meaningful to both the

  • subjects and to people

  • around the world who care about this

  • kind of stuff i think back to a

  • conversation i had with one of my

  • professors when i asked him

  • you know hey i'm young i don't know if

  • i'm you know ready to you know go into a

  • class this

  • this big you know with all these great

  • other filmmakers and he told me he said

  • duncan there's never a good time to make

  • a film and that's kind of been my

  • mindset about

  • everything you are looking for that

  • perfect opportunity and it's never going

  • to be there

  • if you have an idea you just got to go

  • and go and do it

  • [Music]

  • i think one of the challenges we really

  • fought was in the post-production

  • process

  • and in the editing you know we got to a

  • point we had about 12 different cuts of

  • this film and there was a midway point

  • where we realized that we had one

  • character on screen for probably like

  • 65 percent of the film and we weren't

  • showing enough of the other characters

  • and so that was one thing that's really

  • important kind of that you know unbiased

  • thing you don't even think about we

  • worked really hard to you know keep that

  • inner cutting of the of the different

  • scenes between the different characters

  • you know as consistent

  • as possible i think when people are

  • thinking and resonating and weighing two

  • different options

  • i think our film's really achieving what

  • we set out to do one of our goals yeah

  • and what we what we find

  • a lot of people viewers who watch this

  • film is that after

  • it ends after the credits roll a lot of

  • people just start that conversation and

  • start sparks the conversation

  • about i'm talking about both sides of

  • the tmt controversy and what it means

  • you know to protect your culture and uh

  • to to to push forward

  • uh what it means to be hawaiian and what

  • it means for cultures around the world

  • looking back on this opportunity i just

  • feel so lucky that we were able to shoot

  • this project kind of before kovit went

  • down

  • and yeah i want to thank the don family

  • foundation and all my crewmates duncan

  • lauren thomason and ricky king you know

  • for all helping me

  • and coming together for us to create and

  • produce this story for all of

  • my my island and for all of science and

  • for all of

  • i don't know the world to kind of see

  • and take in um

  • and for what's going to happen with

  • mauna kea we're not too sure yet

  • they're going to continue going back and

  • forth in 2021 after kovit

  • hopefully dies down i just hope that

  • when they're making the decision they're

  • able to look at our film

  • and kind of see both ends and kind of

  • you know take into account

  • uh the important perspectives of both

  • sides

  • and make the best decision going forth

  • for the future of hawaii

  • i'd like to thank the don family

  • foundation you know my crew members

  • uh sally rubin are you know ricky carter

  • lauren you guys did such a phenomenal

  • job and you know i loved working on this

  • team

  • you know for the past year like carter

  • said i think that this film will

  • hopefully impact a greater audience

  • teach so many people

  • not only about this social movement but

  • social movements

  • in the future thanks again for joining

  • us for seeker indie and this

  • presentation of beyond the mana

  • it's stories like these that can inspire

  • more discoveries

  • more adventures and new ideas that may

  • one day help save

  • our planet

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世界最大級の望遠鏡建設をめぐる論争の真相|Beyond the Mauna (Inside The Controversy Over Building One Of The World’s Largest Telescopes | Beyond the Mauna)

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    林宜悉 に公開 2021 年 03 月 22 日
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