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  • I would like to invite you to listen

  • for the next few minutes, but perhaps

  • in some ways you've never listened before.

  • We have 4 communication skills in fact,

  • two outputs and two inputs.

  • And if you ask people in research

  • which one is the most important,

  • the vast majority of people say

  • that the most important one is listening.

  • If you ask a great salesperson

  • what's more important in your sales conversation,

  • is it speaking or listening,

  • that's the answer they'll give you.

  • In fact we spend up to 60 %

  • of our communication time listening.

  • Depending on the job we do, and what we do,

  • in our families and so forth.

  • And yet, we're not very good at it.

  • Our listening comprehension is just 25%.

  • Which means that 3 words in 4 that are spoken to us

  • just disappear.

  • I'm not talking about you, not this talk,

  • but in general.

  • So what is listening? Have you ever thought

  • about a definition of listening?

  • We take it for granted.

  • I'd like to offer you a very broad definition<br/> of the word 'listening.'

  • And I'm not talking here just about<br/> listening to somebody speaking,

  • I'm talking about listening <br/>to the whole world around you.

  • My definition of listening is <br/>making meaning from sound.

  • All the sound around us.

  • This is the process that I'm going <br/>to describe to you now,

  • and there are 3 stages to that process.

  • The first stage is a physical stage:

  • sound waves hit your body.

  • All over, you listen with your whole body,

  • but in particular, they go deep inside your head,

  • and the sound waves touch your eardrums.

  • This is a very intimate sense:

  • deep inside your head, you're being touched,

  • all the time, by sound.

  • In the second stage,

  • that physical relationship <br/>is translated into neural activity,

  • electrical activity in the brain,

  • and we've just been hearing a great deal

  • about the wonders of what goes on inside our skulls.

  • In the third part of the process,

  • mental activity takes place and that,

  • I suggest, is when listening really happens.

  • The first two parts of that process <br/>are really about hearing.

  • So let's have a look at <br/>the mental side of the process.

  • We use some good tricks in order to make sense,

  • in order to make meaning out of sound.

  • One of the most important tricks <br/>is pattern recognition:

  • your name is the pattern that youre most attuned to.

  • But all of us have had the experience <br/>of standing in a room -- (ambient noise)

  • where there's a cocktail party going on.

  • And fighting to understand exactly what's being said,

  • trying to extract signal from noise.

  • That gets tougher as you get older.

  • It's called the cocktail party effect.

  • And I don't like going to parties <br/>so much like that anymore

  • because I do find it very hard <br/>to hear what is being said.

  • The second trick that we use in order to <br/>extract meaning from sound,

  • is differencing.

  • If I were to play this sound -- (pink noise)

  • and leave it on for a few minutes, this is pink noise,

  • it's a very flat-spectrum sound.

  • If I left that on for a few minutes,<br/> you would actually cease to hear it.

  • When there's a constant sound, <br/>our brains just suppress it

  • and we cease to be conscious of it.

  • That sound is used in offices all over the world

  • to cover up bad sounds <br/>and people just aren't aware of it,

  • until it stops of course.

  • And the third trick that we use,

  • or the third system that we use to extract meaning

  • is a whole set of filters. <br/>Now these are important

  • and I just want to give you a list of those filters

  • so you perhaps become <br/> more conscious of them in your listening.

  • It starts with culture: <br/> where you come from affects your listening.

  • For example, I love the Finns,

  • the Finns have a whole different relationship <br/>with silence to most cultures that I know.

  • Their idea of a good night out <br/>is to go to somebody's house,

  • sit for 3 hours in silence, and then go home.

  • Finland is a very quiet place.

  • Then we have language,<br/> the language you speak changes your listening.

  • These are filters which cut down<br/> the sound that's bombarding us

  • and just leave us with the bit we're conscious of.

  • So for example in Sub-Saharan Africa,

  • some languages use just finality

  • to distinguish present, future, past,

  • and to distinguish even good and bad.

  • They don't have words for that, <br/>it's just the tone of voice.

  • The values you hold,<br/> your beliefs about what's going on around you,

  • and then of course your expectations, <br/>your attitudes going into

  • a relationship with somebody for example

  • and very much your expectations<br/> will change your listening for that person.

  • And in fact, this is something to be very conscious of,

  • because as our expectations about a person solidify,

  • our listening for that person ossifies, <br/>it becomes fixed.

  • And we take away that permission to change.

  • So we don't hear the stuff they do or say <br/> that's different from what we're expecting,

  • we only hear what we're expecting.

  • And that's something to be very conscious of<br/> in a relationship.

  • When I met my wife who's sitting down there,

  • I promised her, "I will listen to you <br/>as if for the first time,

  • everyday." Now I fall short of that very often,

  • but it's a good commitment.

  • I'm trying to be conscious all the time

  • and give her permission to be different.

  • And your intention is crucial with sound.

  • I'm gonna talk about that <br/>a little bit more in a moment.

  • And just in case you still think<br/> that what you hear is what you get,

  • I'm going to give you some examples <br/>of cross-modal effects,

  • that is one sense affecting another.

  • This is an illusion, a well-known illusion,<br/> called the McGurk effect,

  • I'd like to thank Professor Arnt Maasø <br/>for this example,

  • what I would like you to do is to look at the screen,

  • and tell me what this guy is saying.

  • Man: Da da da da da da

  • Man: Da da da da da da -- JT: Da da, yes?

  • Now I would like you to close your eyes,<br/> and tell me what he's saying.

  • Man: Ba ba, ba ba, ba ba.

  • JT: He's saying Ba ba.

  • Now open your eyes again and you'll hear "da da."

  • You cannot counter this effect.

  • Man: Ba Ba

  • JT: So what you hear is not necessarily <br/>always the truth.

  • What is the truth? It's interpretive.

  • There's another well known illusion,

  • which is that sound <br/>-- it's not an illusion, it's an effect --

  • which is that sound can affect <br/>other senses like taste,

  • this is researched by Professor Charles Spence<br/> at Oxford University,

  • who found that if you put headphones on people

  • and boost the frequency 5 kHz,

  • they actually relate that the crisps they're eating

  • are 15 % crunchier in their mouth,

  • because the sound of crunch has gone up,<br/> the feeling of crunch goes up.

  • So the senses are affecting each other all the time.

  • But we have a problem.

  • The problem is we simply don't listen.

  • And I'd like to suggest to you that <br/>that is a very significant problem.

  • There are reasons for this problem,

  • thousands of years ago we invented writing,

  • before that, if you didn't listen, if you missed it,

  • you missed it.

  • Now, well if you want to go to sleep,

  • in this talk, you can watch it <BR/>on the TEDx Youtube channel afterwards.

  • The premium on being present<BR/> and listening is not as great as it used to be.

  • That's the first reason.

  • Secondly, I would suggest there's <br/>a cultural thing going on here as well:

  • you may be familiar with the Chinese model<BR/> that the duality of yin and yang,

  • where yang is heat and light <br/>and sun and male energy

  • and much outward focused,

  • and yin is dark, moon, female energy,<BR/> receiving, much quieter.

  • Well if I substitute sound words for those two,

  • I think you might agree with me that in our culture,

  • we're much more fond of telling, <br/>than we are of listening.

  • And that creates a world that looks like this,

  • and sounds like this:

  • (indistinct conversation noises)

  • People telling, telling, telling, all the time.

  • And it's not surprising therefore,

  • that many people take refuge in this:

  • (earphones displayed on the picture <br/>while music playing faintly)

  • But there's an effect of that, a social effect of that,

  • on the way that we are with each other.

  • We take a public space, <br/>imagine any big public space

  • it could be this theater, I hope not,

  • I hope nobody's wearing headphones at the moment,

  • but a train station, an airport, a train carriage,

  • whatever space where we're with other people.

  • We take that space, where for a long time

  • we've been listening to each other.

  • We might not be speaking to each other,

  • but we're conscious of each other in our listening.

  • but we're conscious of each other in our listening.

  • And we are turning that space into this.

  • Thousands if millions of little sound bubbles.

  • They're called personal soundscapes,

  • and this fragmentation of public <br/>and shared soundscape

  • into personal soundscapes <br/>has got serious consequences

  • because in this scenario,<br/> we're not listening to each other at all.

  • We are also becoming short of patience.

  • We don't want to listen to oratory,

  • we want soundbites.

  • We don't watch TV programs, we channel-hop.

  • We don't listen to albums, we listen to tracks.

  • We don't want to have conversations,

  • we want to tweet or text.

  • So our patience is getting shorter and shorter.

  • And at the same time we're becoming <br/>desensitized in our listening.

  • Our media have to shout at us

  • in order for us to hear.

  • And this level of desensitization <br/>means that we're finding it

  • harder and harder to hear the quiet,

  • the subtle, the silence.

  • We are losing our listening in the modern world.

  • And I think this is a message<br/> you're going to receive several times today

  • in one form or another. How can we get it back?

  • Well I'd like to give you some exercises to take away with you,

  • these are kind of like being in the gym,

  • the first one of these is this:

  • (Silence)

  • Silence is very rare in the modern world.

  • I urge you to seek it out,

  • and just give yourself <br/>a few minutes of silence every day.

  • It re-calibrates, it resets your ears,

  • it's like a sorbet in a good meal.

  • It allows you to hear again

  • freshly as if for the first time.

  • That's the first one.

  • The second one is a process I call 'the Mixer',

  • where you can go into <br/>any noisy modern environment like this,

  • (Noise)

  • Familiar?

  • and start to think:<BR/> "How many channels of sound am I hearing?"

  • How many separate sound sources?<BR/> How many people's voices,

  • chairs squeaking, barristers banging?

  • You can do this in beautiful natural surroundings<br/> like this as well

  • (water sounds and chirping birds)

  • How many birds can I hear? The wind in the trees,

  • How many separate ripples?

  • It's a great exercise to improve <br/>the acuity of your listening.

  • The third exercise is savoring.

  • Like this guy savoring his cup of coffee,

  • even the most mundane sounds around us,

  • you can savor, if you really pay attention to them.

  • This -- (engine noise) -- is my tumble drier,

  • I recorded it before I came out.

  • It's a waltz! One two three, <br/> one two three, one two three.

  • That's quite groovy! I could put music on top of that!

  • Or take another simple domestic sound <br/>like boiling a kettle.

  • (Noise)

  • Wow!

  • So you can really savor even the simplest sounds.

  • The next exercise is listening positions:

  • have you ever thought of the idea <br/>that you could take up

  • certain positions to listen from?

  • This can change everything.

  • I'm going to give you 6 and I'm positioning them as

  • ends of the spectrum --

  • This is arbitrary, there are lots of listening positions,

  • and I do urge you to explore your own --

  • So here are the 6 I'm gonna give you,

  • The first is active listening.

  • This is used in the caring professions<BR/> a great deal of the time.

  • What I hear you say is -- What you said is --

  • So I hear you say this.

  • This allows the person talking to feel heard.

  • And it's used in education, therapy, <br/>counseling and so forth.

  • Very powerful in parenting.

  • Second: passive listening. <br/>The other end of that scale,

  • this would be the zen master <br/>sitting by the bank of a brook

  • just listening to the water.

  • No interpretation, no mental activity at all,

  • just receiving.

  • Two more for you.

  • Critical listening.

  • This is what you and I do most of the time.

  • Is that right or wrong?

  • Do I agree or do I disagree?

  • Youre probably doing it now.

  • It's a very interpretive form of listening

  • and it's powerful in most of our modern situations,

  • in business particularly,

  • it's a very important form of listening.

  • Best done consciously, though.

  • On the other end of that scale,

  • we have empathetic listening:

  • this is being with a person,

  • going on to their island,

  • understanding their point of view,

  • and not just letting them feel heard,

  • but letting them feel understood.

  • Empathetic listening.

  • And the final two I'll give you

  • are a slight gender stereotype,

  • but the research does bear out

  • that men and women listen in different ways.

  • Men tend to listen in what I call a reductive way.

  • That is for a point.

  • There's an objective to <br/>a conversation between two men,

  • he's saying to him, "I've got this problem",

  • he's saying, "there's a solution", "thanks!"

  • That's a male conversation. (Laughter)

  • Women on the other hand

  • tend to enjoy the journey,

  • the destination's not so important.

  • It's just being with -- look at the eye contact there.

  • Men are genetically programmed in hunting,

  • to be looking at the horizon <br/>as they talk to each other.

  • We don't look at each other that much.

  • Women, very much more eye contact, and it's expansive listening.

  • This creates another conflict in relationships.

  • If you're not conscious of it,

  • men, be conscious that women may be listening expansively,

  • and may feel cut off.

  • If you say, "Yep, well, what's the point?"

  • Women on the other hand, may not understand

  • that men want to find a solution very quickly.

  • It's not rude, it's just the way we tend to listen.

  • But again, if you're conscious,

  • you can adopt different listening positions,

  • it's very powerful.

  • Let me give you a little acronym

  • which you can use in listening to other people talk:

  • the acronym is applicable in any relationship,

  • one of these will apply to all of you:

  • several, probably.

  • The acronym you can use is R.A.S.A.

  • Rasa is a sanskrit word, it means "juice."

  • It's also used in Indian theater

  • to indicate an emotional state.

  • So it's quite an appropriate acronym.

  • RASA: it stands for Receive, that is to say

  • make eye contact with the person who's talking.

  • Look interested,

  • lean forward slightly, and listen.

  • Appreciate.

  • That means little noises like "Hmm, oh,"

  • very important on the telephone.

  • I'm very bad at this,

  • on telephone calls, I'm regularly having

  • people saying: " Are you still there?"

  • (Laughter)

  • So very important.

  • Hhm, really! oh!

  • It helps the person.

  • Summarize: the word 'so' is very important in listening.

  • So -- this -- So I hear that -- So --

  • Summarizing what I just said,

  • and then asking questions: What do we do next?

  • So what does that mean?

  • So what'll happen next?

  • It's engaged! RASA.

  • That's a very good way to listen to anybody.

  • I want to finish, just for the last moment,

  • really that's been the phenomenology of listening,

  • it's been the process, <br/>and how we can get better at it.

  • I just want to open a little door to you

  • to think about the ontology of listening.

  • What would it be to be --

  • listening,

  • not the source,

  • and not the listener,

  • but there's a thing in between us

  • which is listening.

  • Think of this:

  • listening is what places us in space and in time.

  • You're listening to this whole room all the time,

  • little micro-sounds around you

  • are placing you in a large group <br/>of people in a big space.

  • And you do that all day every day.

  • It places you in space.

  • And very much in time!

  • Because all sound has got time embedded in it.

  • There is no such thing as a photograph in sound.

  • An instant of sound means nothing.

  • Sound is always in time, time is always in sound.

  • The French philosopher Jean-Luc Nancy

  • said that sonority is time and meaning.

  • Herman Hesse said music is time made esthetically perceptible.

  • So if listening places us in space and time,

  • really, listening is how we evoke the universe,

  • how we evoke the physical world,

  • and I should also mention the metaphysical

  • because people tend to hear God a lot more than they see him,

  • and whichever spiritual path you're on,

  • listening and meditation and prayer

  • is a very important aspect of that connection.

  • Sound is my life, it's my passion, it's my business;

  • I live to listen. I'm not asking you to do that,

  • but I think I can turn that round the other way.

  • and suggest that we must all listen to live.

  • To live fully,

  • to be conscious of this fantastic world around us

  • and most important of all, <br/>to be connected to each other.

  • Listen to live,

  • and thank you for listening to me today.

  • (Applause)

I would like to invite you to listen

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