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  • - Hi, I'm Amy Webb.

  • I'm a futurist and an award-winning author.

  • I'm a professor of strategic foresight

  • at the NYU Stern School of Business,

  • and the founder of The Future Today Institute.

  • Today we're going to be reviewing some scenes from movies

  • that are set in the future.

  • [techno music]

  • So I get a lot of questions about my job.

  • You know, what's a futurist?

  • A futurist is somebody who methodically explores signals

  • and data in order to anticipate what might come next.

  • We don't predict the future,

  • but we certainly track everything that's happening

  • in the present, and try to imagine what might be next.

  • This is "Blade Runner 2049" directed by Denis Villeneuve.

  • [ominous music]

  • - [Man] Officer KD6-3.7, let's begin.

  • Ready?

  • - [KD6-3.7] Yes, sir.

  • - In the science fiction canon,

  • this is kind of a sacred text.

  • So this movie, "Blade Runner 2049",

  • and the previous version, "Blade Runner"

  • comes from a story written by Phillip K. Dick

  • who's a super genius in the world of science fiction

  • and futurist work.

  • So what's happening during this scene

  • is that he's taking a psychological test,

  • but the psychological test is actually looking

  • to see whether there's corruption in his system,

  • not to tell whether or not he's human.

  • And that's kind of important because,

  • within artificial intelligence,

  • the test to tell whether or not somebody is human

  • has always been about deception.

  • Can the human tell whether or not the machine is human?

  • But in this case, this test is about proving

  • that the machine is, in fact, a machine and not human.

  • - [Man] Cells.

  • - [Machine] Cells.

  • - [Man] Have you ever been in an institution?

  • Cells.

  • - [Machine] Cells.

  • - [Man] Do they keep you in a cell?

  • Cells.

  • - [Machine] Cells.

  • - When we think about artificial intelligence and,

  • you know, "Blade Runner" is all about self-aware AI,

  • we tend to anthropomorphize it.

  • So we tend to put that AI inside of a human container,

  • right, a body, and then the rest of the story is,

  • you know, what does it mean to interact with somebody

  • who feels human, but isn't.

  • You know, the porous boundaries between humans and machines.

  • But at the end of the day, we're already surrounded

  • by meaningful artificial intelligence,

  • and sometimes that AI goes rogue, and sometimes it doesn't.

  • I mean, in a way, even without the flying cars

  • and always-nighttime-raining situation, we're sort of living

  • bits and pieces of "Blade Runner" in our everyday lives.

  • We just don't recognize that that's what's happening.

  • This is "Gattaca", directed by Andrew Niccols.

  • It's the story of a society in which genetic manipulation

  • is commonplace, and people are in a constant quest

  • to build their perfect children.

  • - [Man] I'll never understand what possessed to my mother

  • to put her faith in God's hands, rather than those

  • of her local geneticists.

  • [baby wailing]

  • 10 fingers, 10 toes.

  • That's all that used to matter.

  • - So what's so interesting about this movie

  • is that when it came out in 1997,

  • there were a ton of movies about aliens.

  • And in this movie, it's also kind of about aliens,

  • it's just that the aliens are the natural-born humans,

  • because in this future world,

  • anybody who hasn't been edited is the mutant,

  • versus the other way around.

  • So this movie is all about the future of genetic engineering

  • and it wasn't too long before this,

  • some of you might remember Dolly the sheep.

  • So Dolly, the sheep was a cloned animal

  • and it caused this absolute manic furor

  • all around the world.

  • People were really upset that scientists had figured out

  • and had advanced the science enough to genetically,

  • not just modify, but copy another living being,

  • and that it was actually born.

  • I mean, this freaked everybody out.

  • The Pope made a special edict, President Clinton had to have

  • a break-in with a press conference,

  • and reassure the American public that, don't worry,

  • clones are not going to be just roaming around

  • the streets outside.

  • So in the middle of all of this

  • comes this incredible movie "Gattaca."

  • [baby crying]

  • - Neurological condition, 60% probability.

  • Manic depression, 42% probability.

  • Attention deficit disorder, 89% probability.

  • Heart disorder, 99% probability.

  • Early fatal potential, life expectancy, 30.2 years.

  • - 30 years.

  • - In this future world, there is a biological caste system

  • that exists, and people are slotted

  • into different professions based on their genetic makeup.

  • What's interesting is that we're kind of in a situation now

  • that's reminiscent of what was in that movie.

  • We're gonna be entering a period in human history

  • where there will be people

  • who are vaccinated for the coronavirus,

  • and people who are not for various different reasons.

  • And that's going to create biological levels,

  • different sets of permissions

  • throughout all of our societies, all around the world

  • that don't really have as much to do

  • with all of the traditional ways that we've sorted people

  • in the past, like based on their education, or their wealth.

  • It's a new type of biological system

  • of sorting and tagging people, which is profound

  • if you stop and think about it.

  • This is "The Matrix", directed by the Wachowskis,

  • one of my favorite movies.

  • And in this scene, Neo wakes up.

  • [eerie music]

  • [gagging and gasping]

  • [electricity buzzing]

  • [dramatic music]

  • Two things you need to know about "The Matrix":

  • one it is an incredibly clever story

  • about artificial intelligence and control.

  • Two, it is a metaphor.

  • It's a very clever, incredibly well-told metaphor.

  • So, no, I don't think that artificial super-intelligence

  • is at some point in the future going to give birth

  • to humans and force us to be batteries,

  • which is what's happening in that scene.

  • The amazing story that's being told

  • is that it's our data that power the systems,

  • and in that amazing scene where Neo is waking up,

  • he's taken the pill, he's decided to learn more

  • and to be disconnected from the system,

  • the story that's being told there is he now understands

  • what data are being collected,

  • and how the algorithms manipulate people.

  • This movie was brilliant and ahead of its time,

  • because what's happening right now in American society

  • and other places around the world

  • is that we are waking up.

  • People do recognize how the big tech giants

  • are harvesting, and scraping, and mining,

  • and refining their data.

  • At some point in the future, yes,

  • there are generative algorithms.

  • There are evolutionary algorithms.

  • And at some point they may decide to do things

  • that we didn't intend.

  • But the story that's being told here is about what happens

  • when we cede control to algorithms,

  • to systems designed by other people,

  • for the purpose of rewarding us,

  • nudging us and getting us to do what they want.

  • Here's a crazy little factoid.

  • Some researchers a couple of years ago

  • at Carnegie Mellon University calculated that it would take

  • 76 work days to read through all of the privacy agreements

  • and all of the terms of service agreements

  • the average person sees in a year.

  • None of us read any of that, myself included.

  • I mean, who has the time?

  • But what this means is, we humans are slowly going to sleep

  • just as the machines are starting to wake up.

  • Which is my way of saying, we rely more and more

  • on automated systems that power our everyday lives,

  • and we are more and more disconnected from them.

  • We don't understand how they work.

  • And so when you find out that persistent biometric

  • surveillance systems are everywhere in your city,

  • or that drones that you can neither see nor hear

  • have been flying around overhead, taking pictures of you

  • at a protest, or that simply by doing a little bit

  • of online shopping,

  • there's a rich profile of what are called

  • personally identifiable information markers, or PII's,

  • about you that divulge an incredible amount of information

  • to third parties that you may never know or see,

  • and that entire connected system of data and algorithms

  • are built to try to make decisions for you.

  • I mean, that is not the future, people.

  • That is like right now.

  • Part of what we're being asked to contemplate

  • in "The Matrix" is, are we in a simulation,

  • or can we see what's happening?

  • I mean, it's brilliant.

  • This movie, "The Matrix", about artificial intelligence

  • and supercomputers, and also a post-apocalyptic

  • environmental crisis is just great.

  • Just great.

  • If you have not seen this movie,

  • I got nothing to say to you beyond what I've already said.

  • This is "Ex Machina" directed by Alex Garland,

  • and in this clip,

  • Nathan explains how he created Ava, the AI.

  • - Sorry.

  • - If you knew the trouble I had getting an AI

  • to read and duplicate facial expressions.

  • You know how I cracked it?

  • - I don't know how you did any of this.

  • - Every cell phone, just about, has a microphone, camera,

  • and a means to transmit data.

  • So I turned on every microphone and camera

  • across the entire fucking planet.

  • - No.

  • - And I redirected the data through Blue Book.

  • Boom, limitless resource vocal and facial interaction.

  • - You hacked the world's cell phones?

  • - Yeah, and all the manufacturers knew I was doing it, too.

  • - Couple of thoughts here,

  • but that whole thing about a single entity

  • pulling the entire world's worth of cellular data

  • into one spot and then, I guess,

  • having some kind of crazy powerful algorithmic system

  • to parse it all, that's not a thing.

  • The number of cell phones exceeds the number of people,

  • and it's not just cellular devices.

  • I mean, cell phones divulge your location,

  • among other things, but we're all connected

  • to many different systems and tools.

  • So if I was going to try to build

  • a high-functioning AI system, there's other ways to do it.

  • - Here we have her mind.

  • Structured gel.

  • I had to get away from circuitry.

  • I needed something that could arrange and rearrange

  • on a molecular level and keep its form when required.

  • Holding for memories, shifting for thoughts.

  • - This is your hardware?

  • - Wetware.

  • - You hear them talking about something called wetware.

  • Wetware is actually a real thing.

  • One way to think about people

  • is that we are just soft robots.

  • We're just containers for code,

  • and the squishy computer inside of our heads, our brains,

  • are what make us work.

  • So this concept of wetware?

  • Totally on point, and it turns out that theoretical chemists

  • have created molecules that can work

  • as what are called cubits.

  • So in regular computing, we have bits and bytes,

  • and in quantum computing,

  • we have these things called cubits.

  • So what he's describing in that scene

  • when he pulls the synthesized brain out of its, of course,

  • stainless steel container.

  • What he's talking about is combining sort of quantum and AI.

  • So there is something there that does kind of make sense.

  • This is "Wall-E" directed by Andrew Stanton.

  • - My cabin all morning, so let's hover over

  • to the driving range and hit a few virtual balls in space.

  • - Nah, we did that yesterday.

  • I don't wanna do that.

  • - Well then, what do you want to do?

  • - I don't know; something.

  • - Wow.

  • - So Wall-E tells a story of an environmental disaster,

  • and humanity has had to leave earth.

  • But the rest of the story is much more about capitalism

  • and the free market economy run amok.

  • People who are irreversibly distracted,

  • who need devices servicing them at all times.

  • And really people have lost touch with each other.

  • Their relationship is with screens, and sort of robots

  • that do things with them versus each other.

  • In a way, the reason that I love this movie so much

  • is because it feels so plausible.

  • Of all the movies and television shows have been made

  • about the future, in a way "Wall-E" feels,

  • it feels very real.

  • First of all, there are a service class of robots

  • that are working collaboratively today.

  • So for the past, I don't know, 10, 15 years

  • researchers have been building out service bots

  • that never really found a market or had a use case.

  • There's a company called Savioke that has this little robot

  • that sort of roams around and can make deliveries.

  • So let's say that you're a hotel.

  • You can shove little soaps and towels.

  • And then if you call housekeeping,

  • rather than having a person come to you,

  • a robot would come to you.

  • That's not too far off from what we just saw in that clip.

  • The world is full of service bots right now.

  • And a lot of them, you know, listen,

  • make our lives easier in some ways,

  • but there's another piece of this movie,

  • which has to do with humans kind of giving up,

  • and allowing automation to take over.

  • - Hey, drink-bot.

  • Here, take the cup.

  • Hey, take the cup!

  • Whoa!

  • - Uh oh.

  • - [chuckling] I don't know if, in the future,

  • we're all gonna have a levitating chair.

  • I don't know that that's necessarily on the horizon,

  • but there is something to the idea

  • that we expect technology to do things for us

  • that we ourselves are probably still capable of doing.

  • And you know, there's also the scene where Wall-E speeds up

  • to one of the passengers on the levitating train,

  • and he's trying to get her attention.

  • And she's been talking on her phone,

  • and looking at multiple screens, and Wall-E kinda

  • snaps her out of it, and that screen goes away,

  • and she suddenly realizes,

  • oh, there's like a whole world out there.

  • It's literally passing before my eyes

  • that I kind of forgot about, or maybe I didn't know existed.

  • I mean, doesn't that kind of describe a lot of people

  • who spend, or kids who spend, a lot of their days

  • constantly plugged into devices?

  • So that to me feels like a somewhat plausible future.

  • This is "2001: A Space Odyssey" directed by Stanley Kubrick.

  • And in this scene we learn that HAL is always watching.

  • - There's never been an instance at all of a computer error

  • occurring in the 9000 series, has it?

  • - [HAL] None whatsoever, Frank.

  • The 9000 series has a perfect operational record.

  • - Mm mm.

  • - Of course, I know all the wonderful achievements

  • of the 9000 series, but are you certain there's never been

  • any case of even the most insignificant computer error?

  • - [HAL] None whatsoever, Frank.

  • Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that.

  • - In "2001: A Space Odyssey"

  • is about artificial intelligence

  • that at some point is powerful enough

  • that it makes decisions that the humans on board

  • would themselves not make.

  • And then catastrophe ensues.

  • Stanley Kubrick had the vision, and the desire,

  • the drive, to tell a story about both space

  • and artificial intelligence.

  • And in order to make "2001: A Space Odyssey",

  • he brought on board lots of different experts,

  • one of whom was Marvin Minsky

  • who actually coined the phrase artificial intelligence.

  • He was part of this group of people that were advising

  • on the film that we're trying to think through an AI system,

  • powering the systems for that ship that they were riding,

  • like what would all of that look like?

  • There's so much interesting about this movie.

  • And I realize that it's kinda slow by today's standards,

  • but, you've got a bunch.

  • So there's persistent surveillance,

  • and you've got a supercomputer system

  • that is making decisions,

  • but it's also meant to be subservient to the humans,

  • in this case, the people who are on the ship.

  • - You know, another thing just occurred to me.

  • As far as I know, no 9000 computers have been disconnected.

  • - No 9000 computer's ever fouled up before.

  • - That's not what I mean.

  • Well, I'm not so sure what I think about it.

  • - Let me blow your mind for a moment.

  • So one of the things that you see happening

  • is that there's something called computer vision

  • that's being used to interpret what's being said in the pod.

  • The pod may not have listening devices, but it doesn't mean

  • that the thing isn't riddled with sensors.

  • The computer, HAL, doesn't need audio content

  • to understand what's being said.

  • Now out in the real world,

  • we're totally headed into a future in which machines

  • don't need just audio, or just our faces to

  • recognize who we are, and what we're saying,

  • and what we're meaning.

  • We've actually built systems already that can recognize

  • who you are and how you might be feeling

  • by monitoring your posture and your gait.

  • We're all kind of obsessed with machines and cameras

  • looking at our faces, but truth be told,

  • I don't need your face to know who you are.

  • So to answer the question,

  • 'cause everybody's thinking it,

  • at what point in AI's development do we wind up

  • with a super computer like HAL

  • that starts making its own decisions,

  • and potentially puts us in harm's way.

  • And the answer to that question is, exactly what date?

  • That I don't know.

  • Are we building a situation in which

  • that could happen in the future?

  • Yeah.

  • There are lots of different research groups around the world

  • that are building AI systems that are intended to learn

  • on their own without having a human in the loop.

  • Some of these systems don't just complete

  • sort of a single, narrow task,

  • which will be called artificial narrow intelligence,

  • they're actually capable of doing many more things at once.

  • And they've started to make decisions

  • that humans would not make.

  • So there's this research group called Deep Mind,

  • and they've been working on a computer system

  • and training it on how to play Go,

  • an ancient game that was played in China and Japan.

  • It's got white and black pieces on a giant grid.

  • And what's interesting about this game is

  • you can't brute force your way

  • through all of the mathematical calculations.

  • The rules are a little different.

  • So this Deep Mind team builds this system called AlphaGo,

  • and has different iterations of that system.

  • And over, this thing beats every human Go master

  • that is willing to play it.

  • I mean, it's like bad.

  • None of the humans can beat the system.

  • And at some point it wasn't just that

  • the system outmaneuvered, because it understand

  • and could sort of calculate all the different plays.

  • The reason that the system kept winning

  • was because it learned the human strategy

  • and then decided to throw it out,

  • and it invented its own strategy, and started using it,

  • and played in a way that nobody had ever seen before.

  • And that, quite frankly, on the back end,

  • it was doing this in a way that people

  • didn't quite understand.

  • So we are already in a situation where machines

  • are starting to make their own decisions.

  • Doesn't necessarily mean that the future turns out bad

  • for the humans, but it doesn't necessarily mean

  • that it doesn't not turn out bad for the humans.

  • This is "Total Recall" directed by Paul Verhoeven.

  • And in this scene, we learn a little bit

  • about the technology that powers the perfect vacation.

  • - Would you like to ski Antarctica,

  • but you're snowed under with work?

  • Do you dream of a vacation at the bottom of the ocean

  • but you can't float the bill?

  • Have you always wanted to climb the mountains of Mars,

  • but now you're over the hill?

  • Then come to Rekall, Inc. where you can buy the memory

  • of your ideal vacation, cheaper, safer,

  • and better than the real thing.

  • So don't let life pass you by.

  • Call Rekall for the memory of a lifetime.

  • - What's really interesting is the use

  • of what's called synthetic media.

  • So a lot of this movie is all about storing memories,

  • creating memories, implanting memories, erasing memories,

  • using a variety of different types of technology

  • like AR and virtual reality.

  • But part of what powers that

  • is something called synthetic media.

  • So this is like using the data from everyday life

  • and generating realistic-looking people and characters.

  • We're at the very, very beginning stages of that right now.

  • So there's like all different pieces of this ecosystem

  • currently being built,

  • and that's what makes "Total Recall" so fascinating.

  • because when I first watched it in 1990, I was like,

  • "Oh, this is another great Phillip K. Dick story.

  • "This is a great movie."

  • And here we are like 20 years later,

  • and some of the crazy futuristic world

  • that's being described there is actually now being built.

  • There's a lot of virtual reality that's being used.

  • Something that a lot of people don't know

  • is that VR was kind of invented

  • to help treat people with PTSD.

  • And the idea is you put on an immersive headset, you know,

  • and headphones, and whatever that traumatic experience

  • that you might have gone through,

  • in a virtual reality environment,

  • doctors treat PTSD using exposure therapy,

  • or trying to sort of confront the memory

  • or change the memory.

  • So this sort of idea of using all of these technologies

  • to change or implant memories in people

  • has a basis in the real world.

  • So it's really interesting, right,

  • to think about a future in which you don't

  • strap into a headset in a VR environment

  • to escape your past.

  • But couldn't you also, if you were exposed enough times,

  • start to alter your own reality.

  • There's definitely stuff in "Total Recall",

  • that is totally plausible in the future.

  • Everything from taking virtual vacations

  • and actually feeling like you were there,

  • to having a new kind of therapy to potentially erase,

  • or at least mute old memories.

  • Even enhancing your loved ones,

  • the VR version, the Hollywood version of your spouse.

  • Mm, that is plausible!

  • That could actually happen.

  • And maybe your thing is younger Arnold Schwarzenegger.

  • Like, that's a possibility.

  • So in all of these clips that we've seen,

  • you're looking at the future.

  • But these depictions of the future are actually based

  • in all of the signals that are being collected

  • in the present, which means that filmmakers and show runners

  • do work that's pretty similar to the work that I do.

  • We look at the signals,

  • we think about their next order of outcomes,

  • and we imagine alternative futures.

  • And we ask, "What if?

  • "If this is what we're seeing, then what next?"

- Hi, I'm Amy Webb.

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