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  • - Yeah, I'd choose this over that.

  • (laughs)

  • This is for dark times.

  • Hi, I'm Alvin.

  • - Hi, I'm Chris.

  • - And we're gonna swap some snacks today.

  • - So, I'm from Curacao,

  • it's a Dutch Caribbean island

  • right off the coast of Venezuela.

  • Today I'm excited to show Alvin

  • some of my snacks.

  • - I'm Chinese American,

  • but I was born and raised in California.

  • I might not have the most traditional snacks,

  • but I'm also excited to show Chris

  • what I like to eat when I grew up.

  • All right Chris, let's see what we brought for each other.

  • - Let's do it.

  • - On three? - On three.

  • - One, two, three.

  • Whoa, what is that?

  • - This is a cashew nut treat.

  • How does it look to you?

  • - [Alvin] It looks like a pile of like dough,

  • what's this called?

  • - Actually I want you to try to pronounce it.

  • So it's this right here.

  • - Tenta-lira?

  • - That's actually pretty good.

  • - Okay.

  • - It's called Tentalaria.

  • - Oh see, he has the cool accent.

  • (laughs) I can't do that.

  • 'Tenta' means to tease

  • and 'laria' means above.

  • Tease above?

  • - Doesn't make sense.

  • What do you have there?

  • - What do you think think this is?

  • - I see there's a bagel there,

  • I'm not sure what that is,

  • is that chicken nuggets on top of it?

  • - Yeah, so this is a everything bagel

  • with like a little bit of cream cheese

  • and Dino nuggets.

  • So this is something I would come home

  • and as a kid you just like wanna make stuff taste good

  • - Right, right.

  • - And you don't really care how bad it is for you

  • so I would eat this after I came home from school.

  • - That's cool 'cause I brought my snack,

  • it's like a traditional Curacaoin thing

  • but yours is like your own.

  • - Mine is not traditional by any means.

  • All right, should we swap?

  • - Let's do it.

  • All right let's swap, here we go.

  • Oh, it kind of feels like dough,

  • like if I made pasta dough and let it sit out

  • and it dried up too long overnight,

  • that's kind of what it feels like.

  • - What does it taste like?

  • - Kind of like marzipan,

  • when there's like nuts, sugar,

  • it does feel and taste familiar

  • like nut paste we have in China,

  • so it's good, I like it.

  • - Oh, that's exciting.

  • - I'm gonna go ahead and try yours, Alvin.

  • This is your creation nobody else's

  • I like that.

  • - Yeah, it is 100 percent mine.

  • - You know this reminds me of a nugget bread

  • that I would eat at high school.

  • - Nugget bread, okay.

  • - At the canteen they would sell nugget in bread.

  • - Oh, cool.

  • - So, this is essentially what it is,

  • without the cream cheese

  • I think that's a good addition.

  • - Great. - That's nice, I like that.

  • - I'm glad that something unorthodox

  • can remind you of something you grew up with.

  • - Yeah, that's awesome,

  • I like it.

  • - Yeah well can't believe he liked it.

  • - So if you were to name this dish Alvin,

  • what would it be called?

  • - The heartburn era.

  • (laughs)

  • Next snack?

  • - Next snack, let's do it.

  • - All right, one, two, three.

  • - Reveal, wow.

  • - That's cool.

  • - [Alvin] Kind of looks like

  • it's like some sort of peanut sugar candy.

  • - Right, that's essentially what it is.

  • - Okay, cool.

  • - I want you to try to pronounce the name

  • because that's the most exciting part.

  • - Pan-secu?

  • - That's pretty good, it's Panseiku.

  • - Panseiku.

  • - Yeah, 'pan' means bread

  • which doesn't make sense again,

  • I don't know what 'seiku' means.

  • This you can also get it at the market,

  • about a dollar or two.

  • - So is this something that

  • you kinda had growing up?

  • - Actually no, 'cause this is one of the snacks

  • that I did not like

  • growing up at all.

  • - [Alvin] Oh.

  • - Yeah, so you would get it always at parties too.

  • As a kid I didn't think it looked appetizing,

  • so I wouldn't eat it.

  • Now I think it's kind of cool.

  • Alvin, what do you have here for me?

  • I think this is minty chocolate.

  • - Yeah, so it's Andees chocolate,

  • it's kind of like these small little green bars,

  • it's like chocolate in the middle

  • there's like a mint-ish layer

  • and basically why I brought these is because

  • I grew up eating these without knowing what it was.

  • So, I would always look forward to going to Olive Garden

  • because they had these.

  • Excitedly eating your pasta and like waiting

  • for the cheque to come so that you get

  • the little green chocolates

  • and 'cause they were so good.

  • - Right, so this was basically your main entree for.

  • - Yeah, I was like, can we go to Olive Garden?

  • Not because I wanted pasta,

  • because I wanted these chocolates.

  • - I'm excited to try this.

  • Can I go for it?

  • - So let's swap?

  • - Let's swap.

  • - Yeah.

  • All right, let's do it.

  • - Yeah, but you see the layers?

  • All right, here we go.

  • One, two.

  • (laughs)

  • This is good.

  • - Yeah, this is good.

  • - It tastes like something my grandpa used to make.

  • In Chinese cooking,

  • some dishes involve boiling peanuts.

  • It's a very specific taste.

  • - That's awesome, it's a good in between

  • what you identified it as when you saw it,

  • but then when you tasted it,

  • it's something more nostalgic.

  • - How's that?

  • - A lot of nostalgia here today.

  • - Unexpected nostalgia from treats that we've never eaten.

  • - That's wonderful,

  • this is great, this is wonderful.

  • I want more.

  • - Yeah, it's like cleansing,

  • you kind of want to eat more.

  • Next one?

  • - Next one. - Let's do it.

  • All right, snack number three.

  • - Let's do it in

  • one, two, three.

  • - Whoa.

  • - Yeah, what does it look like to you?

  • - It looks like a steak.

  • (laughs)

  • Like I can tell,

  • if I look closer there's a lot of sesame

  • maybe another like sugar based like candy

  • where you kind of mix it together

  • and you get nutty and sweet flavors,

  • does that sound about right?

  • - That is exactly what it is.

  • With some sesame seeds in there as well.

  • This I'm very excited for you to pronounce Alvin.

  • - It's spelled Z-J-O-Z-J-O-L-I.

  • Zjozjoli?

  • - Perfect!

  • - No, is that right?

  • - That's exact, zjozjoli.

  • - No way, wow!

  • - Right, you got it right.

  • - Thanks, I'm glad I was kinda kidding,

  • but all right.

  • - That's it.

  • - I'll have one Zjozjoli, please.

  • - So I was in Curacao and I was asked,

  • hey, are you still in Curacao?

  • Bring some snacks,

  • so I just shopped some and I brought them here.

  • I'm excited to taste this one too.

  • - Yeah that's awesome.

  • So have you had this at all?

  • - I have had it but not recently.

  • - Okay, so it'll be like awesome for you too.

  • - It'll be awesome for me, too.

  • - Great, I'm excited.

  • - What do you have here, Alvin?

  • - What do you think it is?

  • - This looks like macaroni in there,

  • is this cilantro?

  • - That's not parsley.

  • - Okay.

  • Ground beef?

  • - Yeah.

  • It's Kraft and ground beef.

  • It's weird to say this is a snack,

  • but I would eat this when I come home from school

  • I was a very large and plump kid

  • so this was a snack,

  • and I still ate dinner after this.

  • - Alright, yeah.

  • Let's swap.

  • All right Chris, what's the best way to eat this.

  • You have to cut it first.

  • You're gonna have a hard time doing so, but

  • - Oh.

  • (laughs)

  • - [Chris] Okay.

  • - Oh, man.

  • This is some hard rock.

  • All right.

  • Oh, no the paper towel got stuck.

  • (laughs)

  • Oh no, Alvin you're ruining this entire operation.

  • - I wonder what zjozjo means now.

  • - That's the sound I'm gonna make when I realize

  • I got this paper stuck.

  • zjozjoli!

  • (laughs)

  • No!

  • All right I'm gonna try this now.

  • Oh, that's (mumbles) - What do you say?

  • It's like sesame seeds and sugar

  • but both are very toasted,

  • so the sugar is caramelized pretty high

  • so you get like not a burnt,

  • but a caramel-y, almost like smoky-ish sugar flavor,

  • kind of sticks to your teeth, though,

  • but that's the fun of it,

  • just like the paper towel.

  • For this, you kinda got to mix it up a bit,

  • cause I would just kind of throw things

  • and as a kid you just gotta mix it up.

  • The bowl's kinda full but

  • you know you just kinda gotta get in there

  • and wow, I cannot believe I would eat

  • that whole thing as a kid,

  • oh my god.

  • - No, this is good, I like it,

  • as you said it's exactly what you think it would taste like.

  • Is this ground beef or ground turkey?

  • - It's ground beef.

  • - Yeah, I'm vegan.

  • - Oh, s***.

  • (beep)

  • - Just kidding.

  • (laughs)

  • - That scared me,

  • I got scared for a second.

  • All right, last snack?

  • - Last snack, let's do this.

  • - Ready? - On three.

  • - One, two, three.

  • Oh, cool.

  • - You have some uncured ham there, too

  • with some cream cheese.

  • - Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

  • - That's awesome.

  • - I love how mine is just so obvious and blatant

  • and yours is actually cool and interesting.

  • - What is that?

  • - To me it looks like toffee,

  • like 'cause I love toffee,

  • so like to me it just looks like chunks

  • of chocolate and toffee

  • - Just like the other ones, it's some kind of nut.

  • Can you guess?

  • - Oh, it's a nut? - Yeah.

  • - What kind of nut looks like this?

  • I don't think I've had this nut before.

  • I hope I'm not allergic to it.

  • What is it?

  • - It's coconut actually.

  • - Oh c'mon, that doesn't count as a nut,

  • what the heck? - It is.

  • - Who thinks...

  • - This name makes sense but at the same time, it doesn't.

  • - Sure.

  • So it's spelled D-J-E-N-T-I-K-A-C-H-O

  • I want to say Djenti-kacho.

  • - Pretty good.

  • Djent'i Kacho.

  • - Oh, Djent'i Kacho,

  • so it's like this way.

  • - Right, and it translate to 'dog teeth.'

  • - Oh, that makes sense.

  • - Right, at least it's like two words that go together,

  • you know, and you know what it is.

  • - [Alvin] You're not teasing any sky on this one.

  • - [Chris] Exactly.

  • - It looks really appetizing,

  • it looks like you get something and grab a handful

  • and just keep eating.

  • - Yeah, I did grow up eating Djent'i Kacho,

  • and it's actually one of my favorites, too.

  • - Oh, good.

  • - Alvin, so you have ham here.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Uncured ham, to be specific.

  • And then you have some cream cheese.

  • - The story behind it is that

  • when I grew up as a kid,

  • I realized it tasted really good with cream cheese

  • cause this is the salty, this is sweet,

  • this is creamy and neutral,

  • so I would eat it together and be like,

  • oh, this is good.

  • - Cool yeah, let's try this.

  • - Wanna eat it? Swap?

  • - So let's swap.

  • - Yeah. - And then

  • - You just like spread some on it

  • and you just eat as like a roll up

  • or you just like put it on it

  • and you just straight up eat a whole slice.

  • There you go, yeah just take both.

  • - Both, okay.

  • - Yeah, that's the way it goes.

  • And you gotta...

  • Yeah use your spoon, get your spoon in.

  • - Okay, this is what the spoon is for.

  • - [Alvin] Good ratio.

  • - Okay, all right.

  • I don't like it.

  • I think I would like this actually

  • if I have some bread with it.

  • - Yeah.

  • - But I don't know how you can eat this with the ham

  • and like straight up cream cheese.

  • - So this is kinda how I would eat it,

  • you know, you kinda take a slice,

  • you sorta like use it as like a spread,

  • you just kinda do that.

  • - Okay, okay.

  • - Yeah, and then you just kinda roll it up.

  • - Okay let's try this.

  • - Roll up.

  • Pretty sure they serve fancy versions of this

  • at like parties.

  • Feel like this'll be good after eating that.

  • Yeah, I'm gonna get a piece.

  • Smells good.

  • I like this one.

  • - You like it?

  • - Yeah, it's like fatty,

  • sweet, chewy-ish,

  • like buttery, and sugary,

  • kind of all the things that I like.

  • Why does it remind me of pork ribs?

  • (laughs)

  • Yeah, this is my favorite.

  • - This is your favorite?

  • - Cashew nut is second.

  • - The second? - But this is really good.

  • I think if you fed it to someone who didn't

  • grow up eating what you ate

  • or knowing what you knew,

  • it's like more of a crowd pleaser,

  • kinda safety kind of dish, so.

  • - Oh, okay. - I like it.

  • Yeah, I would choose this over that.

  • (laughs)

  • This is for dark times.

  • So what would you say,

  • out of the ones I brought you today,

  • one through four.

  • - [Chris] So, Andees is my number one

  • from everything you brought today

  • it's just like the mint chocolate,

  • and it's not necessarily like any mint chocolate,

  • as I said it just keeps you wanting more.

  • I just loved it so much.

  • And number two would go to

  • Dino nuggets

  • on the bagel, everything bagel with the cream cheese.

  • I like that one a lot, too,

  • because of the nostalgic factor I think.

  • And then number three would be your Kraft mac and cheese,

  • I remember my grandma would make me Kraft mac and cheese

  • some days, so that definitely takes number three.

  • And then at number four,

  • sorry to break your heart, Alvin but...

  • - No, I expected it.

  • That's totally fine.

  • - This is not my favorite,

  • but I can see myself eating this

  • if I have some bread with it.

  • How about you?

  • - This has gotta be my favorite, for sure,

  • like I'm still eating it cause it's really good.

  • Number two I'm gonna say that cashew nut,

  • it's more like neutral and it's easy to eat.

  • You don't need to like saw it, break things off.

  • Number three is the Panseiku,

  • cause that one is like kind of peanut brittle,

  • and the fourth, just for the lack of use

  • you know, it's gotta be the zjozjoli.

  • - Zjozjoli

  • - Zjozjoli, it's just really hard to eat,

  • although the flavor is really nice.

  • So that's my ranking.

  • Thank you for bringing me all these like

  • cool snacks from Curacao

  • that I would never had the chance to eat.

  • - Thank you for bringing me into your childhood

  • and in that way you brought me to my childhood, too.

  • - Yeah, I'm glad I could help you out.

  • Just a little too much cream cheese this time, sorry.

  • - A little less cream cheese.

  • - Yeah.

  • - [Man] Oh, yes.

  • (soft music)

- Yeah, I'd choose this over that.

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