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  • -I don't know when

  • we're gonna have award shows again,

  • and so I'm particularly happy that we got to see you host

  • the Globes last year. I am always delighted.

  • Now, did you enjoy going back and hosting the Globes again?

  • -I did. It just -- It seems like

  • a bygone era, all the things you worry about, you know?

  • When the -- I -- You know, the last couple of times

  • I've done it, they offered me to, and I said no at first,

  • and they persuaded me, and this was no different.

  • I said no, then they persuaded me through flattery and cash.

  • And the first thing I thought, "Christmas is ruined,"

  • so I wrote jokes.

  • But, yeah, I had a blast.

  • And, um, it was so funny, because I think

  • you hosted the Emmys, didn't you?

  • You were -- -Yeah.

  • -You were brilliant. I thought it was --

  • I thought you were absolutely brilliant.

  • But you probably put a lot of work in.

  • And I heard that most presenters, like,

  • they really work hard for weeks.

  • They have a team of writers, and they go in,

  • you know, a few weeks before now and again.

  • I can't do that 'cause I live in London.

  • So, I turn up the day before with, like, a piece of paper,

  • and I've got about 20 jokes, right?

  • And all you have to do -- I don't show it to anyone,

  • I don't have to, I don't rehearse or anything like that.

  • But I do have to show it to a lawyer

  • just to make sure I don't break the law and libel anyone

  • or, you know, break taste and decency.

  • And I never have. I've always read it to a lawyer,

  • you know, an hour before and they've gone,

  • "Yeah, that's fine. That's fine."

  • This time, I went to a room, and there was about 15.

  • Now, I don't know if that was

  • they're getting more nervous about me

  • or the times have changed, you know?

  • -Sure. -But, obviously,

  • networks are very nervous.

  • And this is, like, prime time, you know?

  • It goes out 5:00 p.m. in L.A.

  • So, anyway -- So, I do the monologue.

  • It's a tough crowd, 15 executives and some lawyers.

  • Right? But I do it, and it's fine.

  • You know, they say that there was --

  • you know, there was an ISIS joke

  • about they'd sign up to a streaming service.

  • They'd do anything, these actors.

  • There was a thing about sweat shops, and they went,

  • "Yes, that's fine. Fair satire."

  • There was a joke about "The Two Popes" film

  • being a pedophile movie. They went, "Fine."

  • The big discussion was the riff on the movie "Cats."

  • -Sure. -So, Dame Judi Dench said it was

  • the role she was born to play 'cause she likes nothing more

  • than plumping herself down on the carpet,

  • lifting her leg, and licking her own minge.

  • Now, they worried about "minge," right?

  • I said, "It's a British term. It's a cute term.

  • It's not offensive at all. It's not a swear word."

  • They went, "Oh, okay."

  • And then, one of them looked it up and said,

  • "It says vulgar term for vagina."

  • And I went, "Well, all slang is gonna be --

  • is a vulgar term, isn't it?" I said, "what can I do?"

  • And the lawyer went, "You can say vagina."

  • I went, "I'm not gonna say vagina.

  • That's worse! That's so clinical,

  • about Dame Judi Dench."

  • And he went, "I take it back." Right?

  • So, we went through words that I might be --

  • All I'm trying to do is them not bleep it,

  • 'cause it sort of ruins it.

  • So, I persuaded them that "minge" was fine, okay?

  • Such a weird -- We went through, I said, "What about flange?"

  • And they went, "Oh, that's a part of a sink.

  • That'll confuse people." So, I'm desperate.

  • So, we settle on minge. Right?

  • And they said they wouldn't bleep it.

  • And they still did.

  • But I knew they would, so I pointed.

  • So... -A workaround.

  • You found a workaround. [ Both laugh ]

  • So, you know, when I host award shows,

  • you know, there's so much discussion about what's too far,

  • what's not too far.

  • I assume that you, even if you're working by yourself,

  • you have to know that people expect you

  • to have at least two or three two-part jokes.

  • Are those fun to look for?

  • -Yeah. I mean, I think you can do it --

  • I think you can do it, in general.

  • You can go to the elephant in the room

  • if something really awful has happened, and it's --

  • And I'm gonna go after their behavior,

  • like, I did the joke about Felicity Huffman,

  • you know, making the number plates.

  • Again, it's those things that,

  • you know, are in the room, and they're fine.

  • I try and go for their, as I say, their behavior, in general.

  • And I go after Hollywood pretension, you know?

  • And this year, I thought, I went after the fact that a hypocrisy,

  • I guess, that people were tired of being lectured by --

  • Know what I mean? People are tired of being told

  • to recycle by someone who came to that gig in a limo

  • and got a private jet to the limo.

  • So, I sort of did that angle.

  • But I've got nothing against anyone there.

  • And you -- you sort of build. You sort of build to it.

  • And I think if you're going after the people in the room

  • in front of them, I think that's enough.

  • I think that's exciting enough for people.

  • You don't have to go crazy

  • and really undermine the moral fabric of America.

  • You're teasing rich people who are winning awards, you know?

  • It's not a room full of wounded soldiers.

  • These are -- They're fine. They're fine.

  • [ Laughs ]

  • -Well, it's always fun watching you do it.

  • And we will be right back with more Ricky Gervais.

-I don't know when

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リッキー・ガーヴェイス、ゴールデングローブでジュディ・デンチのプライベートをどう呼ぶか交渉 (Ricky Gervais Negotiated What to Call Judi Dench’s Privates at the Golden Globes)

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