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  • -Now, Fred, you're a renaissance man.

  • You are a writer, an actor, a comedian, a musician.

  • But I think one thing people might not know about you

  • is you also have an art historian's knowledge

  • of every painting ever painted.

  • -Every painting, yes.

  • -Well, we thought we'd take advantage of that

  • because right now, of course, people cannot go to museums.

  • They cannot look at art in person.

  • But perhaps now we'll just put up a painting.

  • You do not know in advance what this painting is,

  • and then we will just allow you to fill us in,

  • because it's time once again

  • for "Fred Armisen: Art Aficionado."

  • ♪♪

  • -All right, are you ready for your painting, Fred?

  • -Yes.

  • -This is Edgar Degas' 1872 painting

  • "Dance Class at the Opera."

  • -Oh, yes.

  • This is a tricky one.

  • So this is a painting -- it's one of the first ones

  • where the painter wanted to be in the painting.

  • Okay? -Oh.

  • -So you see that there's a chair there.

  • He was supposed to be facing the camera, or the canvas,

  • as it were... -[ Laughs ]

  • -...in that chair.

  • And so -- -Do a lot of --

  • Do a lot of art historians make that canvas/camera mistake?

  • -It's so common that we have an inside joke.

  • We call the canvas "the camera."

  • And we just all kind of laugh as historians.

  • Like, "I know what you mean." -Yeah, yeah.

  • -So we -- so the painter, Degas,

  • kept running to -- he kept running to that chair.

  • And he thought he'd run fast, you know, back fast enough

  • that he'd be able to paint himself.

  • And what's -- what's really nice about it is, first of all,

  • he drove the dancers crazy,

  • 'cause they were like, "Are you ever going to get this?

  • We're in this position."

  • And he's like, "Just keep warming up

  • and we're going to get this."

  • So that's what you're seeing here is

  • he thought he would be able to do it.

  • Every time he sat back down he's like, "I'm not seeing myself."

  • So he just painted the chair.

  • -So he'd run back -- he'd run and sit, and his plan was

  • to run back to the canvas to see -- fast enough to see

  • how he looked sitting and draw it?

  • -Yes, but he was self-aware enough

  • that he kept asking the dancers.

  • And he was like, "Am I an idiot?

  • -[ Laughs ]

  • -How do people do self-portraits?"

  • And he laughed enough at himself to be just like,

  • "I guess I don't know how people do self-portraits,

  • but I'm going to try my best."

  • -Yeah. -But that's him making

  • his best attempt.

  • Another funny thing about --

  • -You mentioned the dancers were angry.

  • Did they -- like, I know this one in the back has to have

  • her sort of foot -- or leg up.

  • Was she doing that the whole time?

  • -She was doing it the whole time.

  • They're all supposed to be doing it.

  • That was supposed to be a choreographed move where all --

  • they're all in the same position, and the rest of them

  • were like, "I can physically not do this anymore.

  • We're just going to, like, crouch down."

  • And this was discovered at an antique shop.

  • And, um... -Oh, really?

  • -Yes. And it went for $4 million.

  • And then $8 million.

  • It kept going up and up and up.

  • And it was sort of unscrolled.

  • And that's where they found it.

  • -Wow. Where -- an antique shop where?

  • -In Danbury, Connecticut. -[ Laughs ]

  • -Well, Fred, this was -- what an education this was.

  • Thanks again. And stay safe and healthy.

  • This was "Fred Armisen: Art Aficionado."

  • ♪♪

-Now, Fred, you're a renaissance man.

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フレッド・アーミセン、芸術愛好家。エドガー・ドガのオペラでのダンス教室 (Fred Armisen, Art Aficionado: Dance Class at the Opera by Edgar Degas)

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