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  • -So, I heard you talk about this on "Howard Stern,"

  • and it's really a cool story, which is that you became

  • pen pals with Donald Trump's former lawyer, Michael Cohen,

  • and to the point that you actually

  • went and visited him in prison.

  • -Yes, I did, in federal prison. -So, how did it start?

  • How did the pen-pal nature start?

  • -Well, you know, he sounds like he's one of my brothers.

  • Excuse me. [ Sneezes ]

  • No COVID. I swear, no COVID.

  • I'll give that again in case you want to edit it.

  • He sounds like he's somebody from my neighborhood,

  • Michael Cohen.

  • You know, every time I heard him talk, I'm like,

  • "What is he?

  • From the next town over on Long Island?"

  • Like, he seemed very familiar to me the whole time

  • that I knew of his existence, which was during

  • that whole period when Trump was attacking me on,

  • you know, a daily basis.

  • And I knew, from knowing a little about

  • the Trump Organization and how it all worked,

  • that it was him who did it.

  • It wasn't Donald Trump sitting there

  • calling David Pecker and, you know, Donald Trump

  • making all the plans of how they were going to best attack me.

  • I knew that it was him, so I kind of looked at him

  • with fascination the whole time that I was involved

  • in any way with Trump.

  • And then when Trump got impeached,

  • I kept thinking about him.

  • I'm like, "Imagine that he gets impeached,

  • he's in The White House, and the guy that told you

  • to do all this, you're sitting in jail,

  • and he's sitting in The White House.

  • How does that feel?"

  • So I wrote him a letter and I put a little picture

  • of myself with my daughter in there,

  • 'cause I didn't know if he'd believe that it was me, right?

  • It was a handwritten letter.

  • And about a week later, I get an e-mail from him.

  • Now, I had no idea that they were

  • allowed to use e-mail, prisoners.

  • Did you know that?

  • -I wouldn't have known that.

  • -I didn't know that either.

  • So, I was waiting for, you know, mail delivered by the mailman,

  • and it was an e-mail.

  • And I was like, "They're giving them e-mail?"

  • And he was very kind.

  • He said that he was shocked that I wrote him

  • and that he apologized and he was sorry for what he did.

  • And a lot of people had told him that I was

  • a good person, and he felt so bad.

  • And, so, then I wrote him back,

  • and we started sort of writing, you know?

  • And after a few months of that, he said,

  • "Would you ever come and visit me?

  • I'd like to apologize to your face, you know?

  • And I'd like to talk to you one-on-one,"

  • which you really can't do in a prison

  • because there's so many people.

  • And, so, I go there and I get into this --

  • what looks like a college campus.

  • Like, it has no guard gates. It has no towers.

  • -So he's in a very nice jail.

  • -He's in what I believe they call Camp Cupcake.

  • And I walked in, and there he was.

  • And he looked pretty good, I have to say.

  • And we sat and we talked.

  • And next to me was a guy, a friend of Michael's in prison.

  • And he said, "Oh, Rosie, don't you remember me?"

  • And I was like, "Give me a hint?"

  • And he said, "We sat next to each other

  • at Liza Minnelli's 60th birthday party."

  • I was like, "What?"

  • And he was apparently a friend of Liza's

  • who did some AIDS charity and then got caught

  • or, you know, doing -- And he's been in there for --

  • Like, since that birthday party, he's been in jail.

  • -So you knew multiple people

  • when you went to visit Michael Cohen.

  • -I knew that guy, and then another guy

  • came over to me and said,

  • "My kid goes to school with your daughter."

  • -Fantastic. -I was like, "Wow."

  • -Did you -- Do you feel as though --

  • You know, obviously, he apologized to you,

  • Michael Cohen.

  • He seems like someone who appreciates

  • what he did wrong and, in general,

  • seems to be trying to be a better person.

  • Is that the bounce you got off him when you spoke to him?

  • -That's completely what I got off him.

  • And a great thing he told me was that the whole time

  • he worked for Trump -- He had already made his money

  • on his own, and the whole time that he worked for Trump,

  • his wife and kids kept saying, "You got to quit that job.

  • You got to quit that job." The whole time he worked there.

  • And he got tears in his eyes and he said,

  • "I just wish I'd listened to my wife and kids.

  • If I had listened to my wife and kids,

  • I wouldn't be here in this position, you know?"

  • -I can imagine when this is over,

  • one of the first things you will do is go see a Broadway show.

  • Is that is an accurate guess?

  • -That is totally accurate. I can't wait.

  • That's my big -- You know, I don't know

  • how long it's gonna take, because those seats

  • are so cramped together

  • and they're a lot of money for a ticket.

  • And I'm worried about what the economy --

  • all these unemployed people.

  • It's going to be a tough road after we're out of this,

  • the viral part of it, when we get back to

  • the just living, you know?

  • -You did a reboot of your show

  • to raise money for The Actors Fund.

  • You raised over a half-a-million dollars.

  • That was an incredible gesture.

  • Is there a way for people, if they want to

  • make a contribution to that, to still do it now?

  • -Yeah, The Actors Fund is great.

  • It serves all actors and people in the industry of theater,

  • like, you know, stagehands from Minnesota

  • or people in a touring company.

  • Like, and it really doesn't just encompass actors,

  • because I had some people say,

  • "Oh, you rich actors are taking care of each other."

  • No, that's not what The Actors Fund does.

  • So, you can go to theactorsfund.org

  • and look it up and see what they do.

  • And they have a donate button there, too,

  • to help people get through this.

  • -Thank you so much for being here.

  • I can't wait to watch on Sunday night.

  • And it's always a pleasure. Rosie O'Donnell, everyone.

  • -Thanks, Seth. Good to see you.

  • -Alright, be well.

-So, I heard you talk about this on "Howard Stern,"

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