and life you love.

If you want to set yourself on a path to have the most beautiful life possible, regardless

of your circumstances, this episode is for you.

Krishnaji and Preethaji are the founders of O&O Academy, a philosophy and meditation school

for transforming consciousness.

They're entrepreneurs and philosophers who have led thousands of people around the world

through their retreats and the Ekam World Peace Festival.

Their first book, The Four Sacred Secrets for Love and Prosperity: A Guide to Living

in a Beautiful State is available now.

Thank you both so much for being here.

It's such an honor to have you here on the show.

Thank you very much for having us.

So, you've had your organization...

You've been teaching thousands for 30 years now.

Talk to me about what inspired you guys to write this book now, which is brilliant, by

the way.

For us, living in a transformed state of consciousness is not the be all of life––nor is fame,

wealth, relationship, the end all of life.

And for us, what we see is coming together of both of this.

And to put it in a book...

Actually you say that, to put a...

Yeah.

It's about, we want to tell people and teach people and give this gift and put that living

in events and put the time in driving events.

You know?

So, if you're constantly in this belief that our happiness, our joy, everything is found

to external success.

Yes.

We feel if we get more wealthier, we become more happier.

If we look more beautiful, we'll become more happy or more healthy and more happier, better

relationships in life, more happier.

But we are constantly seeing that people are actually becoming more unhappier.

Which means, we have to learn to master the inner world and happiness is something that's

enjoyed within here.

So, it is very important that we first learn to live in a beautiful state.

Which means, learning to live in a state of joy, happiness, calm, peace.

And from there, nurture a life.

From there, build our life.

From there, build our relationships.

From there, build our wealth.

From there, build a success.

From there, have a vision for our health.

For anything in life external, we need to come from a beautiful state.

We need to come from this place of inner calm.

We need to come from this place of inner fulfillment.

Then everything you do has a meaning, has a purpose.

And those actions are very beautiful actions, because now you're not trying to make yourself

trying...

To make yourself...

You're not craving for happiness, but instead you are actually happy and doing things from

that state.

So, it is very important that we understand that the external world and the inner world

has to come together.

Which means, you have to have this gift of driving events that then stay in a state of

driving the events.

That is external success in the world.

I think one of the most beautiful stories in the book, which illustrates really the

contrast between what you guys have framed as a suffering state, right, versus a beautiful

state, is the story of the two monks.

Yeah.

Do you want to tell that?

Sure.

Two monks... we just named them Yesmi and Nomi.

They're returning back to the monastery and on the way they have to cross a river.

And, just as they are about to cross a river, they hear a woman crying.

So, Yesmi goes up to her and asks her what is troubling her.

She actually has to cross the river, but the water is so full, so she is fearing that she

will not be able to get back to her toddler.

And, she's fearing that he will cry for her all night.

So, Yesmi offers to help her.

So, he carries her and leaves her on the other side of the bank.

And Yesmi and Nomi continue to walk towards the monastery, and after half an hour into

the walk, Nomi in a very agitated tone speaks up, you know, what would he have done?

And Yesmi says, he's very calm, "Yes."

He says, "No, you carried the woman."

Yesmi is like, "So?

Our master said never look at a woman, you went and spoke to her.

Our master said never speak to a woman, you touched her.

And our master said never touch a woman, you carried her.

You've done something very wrong.”

For which Yesmi very calmly looks at Nomi and says, "Yes, but I've dropped her half

an hour ago.

It is you who's still carrying her."

I love that story, because it illustrates how much in our minds we carry our past, or

the worries about the future, or the anxieties, and so much here.

And, we're not actually present to our lives, which in this moment, typically, if you're

really here for it, is quite beautiful, and quite awesome, if you're not listening to

this thing up there.

Absolutely, and Yesmi clearly represents that state.

Yes.

In a beautiful state, he's just going to the woman, sees what is needed, does what is needed,

and then continues with life.

But Nomi is very agitated within, continues in that state of agitation, and continues

in that state of agitation even after the event is over.

And he's not being present to life.

A beautiful state is a state where you are being present.

A state in which there is no inner conflict.

It is not an emotional high, but it is a state where you are feeling so connected to life.

Connected to people, to life.

And what takes away this beautiful state is a suffering state.

And how would you define that, a suffering state for anyone...

A suffering state is any state in which you're experiencing an inner disturbance.

It could start off as irritation, as frustration, as loneliness, as sadness, as...

Anxiety.

Anxiety, as fear, as insecurity.

And, what is it that an individually is nurturing, or fueling at any point of time?

Because, there are only two states, Krishnaji always says.

Yeah.

There are only two states that we experience life from.

There's no third state.

Whether we are a Christian, Muslim, Hindu, whether we're Chinese, Indian, Japanese, or

American.

Whether a three-year-old child or a hundred-year-old person, man, woman, anyone in this planet.

We are only experiencing life from these two states.

Either a suffering state or a beautiful state.

You are either relating to your child from a space of love or from a space of confusion

and conflict, not knowing how to take it off your child.

You're either going to work from a space of connection, connected to the vision that you're

doing, or just conflict of not knowing what you're going to do with your life, how is

this day going to be.

You're constantly in the state of what if, not knowing how the day is going to unfold.

So, these are the only two states that you're constantly living from.

So, the most important question in life is, what state do I want to live my life from?

What state do I want to be a parent from?

What state do I want to be a husband or a wife from?

What state do I want to go to my work from?

What state do I want to be a leader from?

That's the most important question and if you can find the answer, which is a beautiful

state, then life becomes beautiful.

Because behind everything that we're seeing in life, whether it be deciding to be together

or to separate, or to take up this job, another job, anything that you're seeing behind war

or peace that you're seeing in the world, the division that we're experiencing is one

of these two states.

And, unfortunately, we are not giving sufficient attention to our state.

Because, our life is revolved about what we can show off to others, and how much we can

achieve.

Nothing is wrong with it, but if it can come from a beautiful state, it'll be nurturing

to yourself.

And you can also be nurturing to others.

Yes.

So, one of the things I think is so interesting, for folks listening now, I know they're like,

yes, yes, and yes.

Now, please tell me how can I begin to cultivate a more beautiful state when my dog is throwing

up, and the baby's crying, and I just learned that my transmission's broke, and do you

know, like the absolutely really normal everyday things for all of us show up.

What would you say to them who are like, "This sounds really good, but how do I even begin

to start?"

Let us make a clear distinction between challenges that we face in life and suffering.

Okay.

Challenges are the pressure.

Pressure is experienced by any species.

The plant species, the animal species, human species.

We all experience challenges in our life.

Pressure is always there, but suffering is something very different from the challenges.

We differentiate a suffering from the challenges that we face.

Suffering is the inner dialogue that we carry within ourselves.

This continuation of the external challenge internally is very limited only to the human

species.

An this inner dialogue, this continuation of the challenge internally, that we call

suffering.

And this suffering, unfortunately, separates us, disconnects us with people.

It disconnects us from life.

It disconnects us from everything that's beautiful around you.

And this is suffering.

Do we need to suffer in order to find solution to the challenge that we currently facing?

No.