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  • -I feel terrible,

  • because we talk a fair amount about soccer.

  • You're a Liverpool fan. And I know you've

  • talked about this and how heartbreaking it is.

  • You were basically on your way

  • to your first Premier League title,

  • and I feel like a jinx because I waited and waited and waited

  • until it seemed like it was the safest...

  • -Yeah. -...the safe, was so locked up,

  • and I feel like I blew it for you.

  • -It's not just that -- it's not just that

  • they were so close to winning it.

  • Well, it is that.

  • But it's also they were winning it so beautifully.

  • -So convincingly, and it felt like nothing could stop them.

  • Now you think, short of a global pandemic,

  • but a global pandemic, you know, is a hell of an opponent,

  • and it turns out it really shuts some [bleep] down.

  • -Yeah. -Yep.

  • -It is not -- it is not the thing I am saddest about...

  • -No, nor should it be. -...but I want you to know

  • I saved a little piece of sadness for it.

  • -I appreciate that.

  • It's just they deserve it so much.

  • And obviously, obviously, when you inject just the modicum

  • of perspective, it doesn't matter, it will never matter.

  • But, you know, as a sports fan,

  • perspective doesn't come naturally, does it?

  • -No. -You have to kind of --

  • You have to really convince yourself, "This doesn't matter.

  • This is just adults playing a game.

  • It's okay. It doesn't matter.

  • I should not be more upset about this

  • than I am about other things in my life."

  • However -- I remember -- I remember --

  • Do you remember that World Cup game?

  • [ Laughs ] -Yeah.

  • -I remember your instinctive reaction

  • after realizing that Holland had just been knocked out,

  • was to say, "I love my wife. My brother's my best friend."

  • -[ Laughs ] -Not like you felt it.

  • More like, "I need to walk myself back through this."

  • And, boy, boy, did I identify with that.

  • "I gotta go through the checklist here

  • to get myself back into being a rational,

  • functioning human being." -But that is the joy of it.

  • I think the only reason to like sports

  • is to give yourself a thing... -Yes.

  • -...where you check rationale at the door.

  • -Of course. That's the beauty of escapism, right?

  • -You think you can't possibly -- I can't, I still --

  • I'm a relatively balanced human being.

  • Even coming out, that sounds wrong.

  • But I can kind of talk to anybody,

  • but I cannot talk to athletes.

  • I can't. I just have nothing in common.

  • They still have a god-like --

  • I went to see Liverpool just when they did

  • a preseason game just before this season.

  • And I just -- I couldn't handle it.

  • I couldn't handle it at all.

  • I went down to the dressing room,

  • and they were all coming out.

  • Klopp came out, and I couldn't --

  • You know, I couldn't say anything to him.

  • Jordan -- I tried to talk to Jordan Henderson for a bit,

  • didn't really work. And then -- but this is true.

  • I can't remember if I told you this.

  • Virgil van Dijk walked out,

  • and he looked at me, and he said, "Zazu."

  • I went, "What?" [ Both laugh ]

  • "What are you talking about?"

  • He went, "Oh, Zazu -- I love 'The Lion King.'"

  • And I said, "You don't have any children,"

  • which is not information that, as a stranger,

  • I should be, like, throwing in his face.

  • He went, "No, I just like 'The Lion King.'

  • I recognized you as Zazu."

  • So, you know, I guess that was good.

  • It was a connection of sorts.

  • It gave us something to talk about.

  • -So, you're saying that not a single person

  • on the Liverpool squad complimented you

  • for your deep dives on, say, voting rights?

  • Not one? Just Zazu?

  • -I mean, honestly, when Adam Lallana walked out,

  • I thought he was about to say something about gerrymandering,

  • but I don't know. He just...

  • [ Both laugh ]

  • I think he wanted to talk about watches instead.

  • -[ Laughs ]

-I feel terrible,

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