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  • TEDxBratislavaMind wide open

  • Hello everybody, thank you very much for inviting me to Bratislava.

  • It's a funny story, I was coming back and forward from Vienna.

  • And using the London-Bratislava line, taking flight almost very other week.

  • And a very nice woman sat next to me on, what I told her my very last flight to Bratislava

  • And I sat it with a little bit relief because flying very frequent gets so very tiring

  • And as the flight progressed, we had two hours from London to Bratislava and she said:

  • "So what do you do?"

  • I told her that I have been involved in Chinese medicine for over twenty years of my life.

  • And we talked, and she said: "So how would you like to go back to Bratislava...

  • ..., and talk to the TED conference about your experiences?"

  • So never say never. Here I am again. Thank you very much, because you have a very beautiful city here

  • and with a wonderful castle. So I am very pleased to be here. Thank you

  • Anyway, I have a rather unconventional career.

  • I in the mid 1980s decided I rather wanted to change my life and study Chinese medicine,

  • which not too many people did in London in those days.

  • I managed to learn Chinese medicine in London, and I thought

  • 'Wow! What a wonderful system of medicine!'

  • It comes from China. It's almost three thousand years old

  • and it works from a completely different basis to Western medicine.

  • So I, you know - but there was a little bit of me that was rather cynical and I thought well 'How does it work?'

  • Because what happens here is that we stick needles in people's bodies at different acupuncture points

  • and suddenly they get better.

  • And there is no scientific explanation for how this system of medicine actually works.

  • So I thought 'It's time to go to China'.

  • So in 1991 I went to China to Nanjing and I lived and worked in a busy hospital of traditional medicine

  • and this really did changed my life.

  • Hardly because - you know there was no private little room there was no sort of -

  • you know, cozy intimate conversation about what happened when we were five or six years old

  • that actually has made us ill maybe today you know

  • this was a system were you know - hundreds and hundreds of people were coming into this busy hospital

  • and they were getting better.

  • What I saw was very much like shingles,

  • you know - very painful eruptions from the body, that were surrounded by acupuncture needles,

  • went away within two or three days.

  • Things like facial paralysis, you know - very physical symptom when one half of the face is frozen

  • and people got better.

  • So I have no doubt in my mind that Chinese medicine has something.

  • I came back to the UK and went into practice set up my own clinic with colleagues

  • and really to some extent it was a big experiment in Britain

  • we didn't really know what we could treat but people kept coming to us and people got better.

  • And then, very hard to believe when I started all of this, acupuncture education moved into universities.

  • And to cut a long story short I find myself at the University of East London and I am the head of Chinese medicine there.

  • And I am very pleased to tell you I have one student from Bratislava who I hope will pass her exams this year

  • so she is going to be bringing Chinese medicine back here.

  • So, you know, here we are for me twenty years doing this, yet no scientific explanation for

  • how this medicine could possibly work.

  • And I want to tell you a short story about a patient to give you some idea of what's involved with acupuncture.

  • Let's call her Nadine.

  • She is thirty years old and she and her husband for two years have been trying to have a baby,

  • but she can't get pregnant. She goes for tests to her doctor and the tests reveal there is no problem,

  • you should be able to get pregnant.

  • So they continue to despair and she has two cycles of what's called AVF assisted conception and they don't work.

  • So as a last resort she comes to me for acupuncture.

  • And to be honest - you know this is quite a big job - you know to give this woman a baby with needles. (Laughter)

  • No pun here.

  • So... so anyway,

  • ...we make a diagnosis, we listen to her pulse, I do all the things that Chinese doctors do.

  • And we work together for about five months and nothing happens, she does not get pregnant.

  • And you know, I am beginning to get uncomfortable because she is paying money for this treatment.

  • And one day I say to her: "Look, I am not so sure that acupuncture is for you."

  • And she looks at me and she said: "You are like my mother! You think I am useless, you think I can't do this."

  • And you know, she welled up with anger.

  • And I said "You mean, your mother doesn't think you can you can get pregnant?

  • And she said "No" she said "I am so angry."

  • Now in Chinese medicine the Chinese long recognize there is a connection between the mind and physical function.

  • So on this particular occasion I changed the acupuncture treatment.

  • And when I put the needles in there were little electric shocks it seemed to be different.

  • And this is bearing in mind we've been working together for five months.

  • And guess what? She got pregnant.

  • And you know, there are many stories like this.

  • This is why the Chinese have kept Chinese medicine going.

  • And just - because I don't know how many people here know what...

  • what really Chinese traditional medicine is.

  • But acupuncture is one treatment, herbal medicine and massage, and also movement.

  • For example in China I visited a council hospital and they don't lay their people down when they have cancer

  • they keep them moving with things like Chi Gong and Tai Chi.

  • It's different philosophy, different way of thinking.

  • And you know, in China this medicine has been running for 3000 years.

  • And the idea is that the body is a network of meridians or channels.

  • And these channels carry something apparently called Chi.

  • Now there is no definition for Chi.

  • There is no explanation, you can't measure it.

  • There is no science that explains what Chi is.

  • And of course this makes people in the scientific establishment very very skeptical about what we do.

  • In China Chi isn't energy, it isn't some primordial life force, it actually gives meaning to things.

  • This conference today has good Chi, you know, it has huge energy behind it.

  • It really gives purpose and meaning, it creates life, that's the idea of Chi.

  • And Chinese medicine is really a system of clinical evidence based on a very different way of thinking about body.

  • So that for example emotions in Chinese medicine can cause illness.

  • So that, as with the patient I told you about, the idea that all this suppressed anger actually in Chinese medicine...

  • ...would have some relevance.

  • So Chinese medicine is a huge success story.

  • And I visited Cuba in my work because I heard that in Cuba Chinese medicine was a part of their integrated healthcare system.

  • And you know, when Cuba was isolated from the rest of the world and they had no essential medicines, they had to try acupuncture.

  • And they found it successful for things like strokes and heart attacks.

  • And so now in Cuba today you'll find two systems of medicine.

  • You will find traditional medicine as well as Western contemporary medicine.

  • And I said in Cuba to the head of the Cuban acupuncture society: "Why, why acupuncture here?"

  • And he said because Chinese medicine is one of the best systems in the world,

  • one of the best medical systems and we want one of the best medical systems for Cuban people.

  • So back in Britain - you know acupuncture very popular, Chinese medicine is a huge success story.

  • But we in the last couple of years have fetched huge hostility from the scientific establishment.

  • "Where is your evidence?" they say. "It must just be placebo."

  • You know, the idea of suggestion.

  • Well maybe because placebo runs in many medical systems but I think it's more than that.

  • I'm quite convinced that one those needles go in something happens.

  • And we do know certain things now, we do know that acupuncture effects certain the limbic part of the brain.

  • We also know in the treatment of infertility that in the middle of the month if you do acupuncture...

  • ...it increases the blood flow to the uterus.

  • So we're beginning to understand.

  • But in the meantime with all the hostility in it it's quite serious in Britain.

  • I mean for example there are people within the scientific establishment

  • who would like to close down university courses like mine.

  • There've been many books published saying 'What's happening in Britain?

  • People are suddenly beginning to believe in things that are irrational!'

  • So you know, these people ask good questions because I particularly as an educator have to ask myself,

  • is something happening here?

  • Or is this system of medicine which is 3000 years old, is it just a good idea

  • or something that's based on on you know, on magic almost?

  • But I think Chinese medicine has two things the Western medicine doesn't have.

  • The first is that Chinese medicine is a real art.

  • Any practitioner needs to listen and look.

  • They listen to the pulse, they listen to a patient's life.

  • But illness isn't just a collection of isolated symptoms.

  • It's the way our lives and our histories and what we want to do impact and can actually cause ill health.

  • It's a really, really creative process almost an art form and we know from art, just with the music we had before,

  • how this can actually create change.

  • It makes us think differently.

  • The second thing for me about Chinese medicine, something that... that really came across in China and...

  • ...what we've done in the West is we've made a very hierarchical all important system of medicine...

  • ...with a language patients often don't understand.

  • It's often frightening for patients, it's often invasive.

  • But you know in China one doctor said to me:

  • "You know, Charmian, here it's actually the patient that's the God not the doctor".

  • And I found this over and over.

  • The Chinese medicine tends to empower people and enables them to take much more responsibility for their health.

  • And I think this is what it has to offer.

  • So I'd like, just to finish, I'd like to show you a clip.

  • I revisited China in... just before Christmas this year.

  • And I was taken to a hospital in Shenyang which is in North of China and there is a doctor there...

  • ...who has developed a technique for treating low back pain.

  • And I'd like to show you, I'd like to leave you with a clip, a quick clip.

  • It looks very dramatic, it's very traditional treatment.

  • It's for low back pain and sciatica.

  • Have a look and if you are in trouble I hope in Bratislava you'll have a choice of having acupuncture.

  • Thank you.

  • Now, it's some medicine. ...originated from North-East part of China.

  • This medicine originates from North-East of China.

  • So what kind of condition is just just pain, generally back pain?

  • Yeah, yeah, yeah. (Chinese) ...wrinkled or traumatized.

  • Excellent! ...you can see the fire... Yeah, I can see it, it's fantastic.

  • It's hot, just feel it.

  • You can repeat, repeat the fire... ...and the medicine can be also very good.

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