Name: 彼はどのようにして$240Kのソフトウェア技術者の仕事を得て、うつ病を介して得た、そしてもっと（FT. (How He Got a $240K Software Eng Job, Got Through Depression, and More (ft. Joma Tech))
Uploaded: 2021-01-14T10:22:52.000Z
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Who's a tech youtuber slash a former that a scientist who worked at Facebook on Buzzfeed.

In this part of the interview, we talked about his transition from little science to software engineering as well as his life on a career in general.

So my first question is, I understand that you decided to switch from data science to Selfridges.

Could you tell us why you decided to make a switch?

Yeah, So I think, um, I think I reached the point where?

Well, I guess it gets a little bit personal.

Like when when I was working at Facebook, there was a time where I kind of just like, burnt out because of, like, videos and work.

And the reason was, there's like, two reasons I did the work first for the work.

It was because, like it was getting like, a little bit harder.

We did a project that was a bit more, a bit more stressful because, like there's huge implications for what we did and like, like monetary implications, so and then I also like switch teams like switch sub teams, and there were a lot of reorders on on my team, so that kind of made like things not super stable and then for videos.

I think I was at a point where I felt like I was too pressured to do.

Like I added too much artificial pressure to myself saying like, Oh, I should make this video at this time every week, for example, at, like Thursdays.

But But the issue of that is, especially when you're working of sponsors or you have friends or you have a life.

It's kind of hard to meet the deadline exactly at that time because there's a lot of factors.

So then I think at one point I just got, like, burnt out a little bit, and then and then I kind of took a break.

But that break allowed me Thio think about my life in a more holistic way, and then because I had more time to think about it, I was like huh?

Like, maybe data science is not right for me.

You know, I started asking a lot of questions, and then at that point I thought OK, in five years or imagine if I wantto work on something for five years, so I want to be a really good day to scientists like analytics.

Or did I want to be really good as a song for Engineer House?

Sounds cooler because you can actually build stuff.

And I thought to myself like Imagine in the in a situation where I had to work for a start up or I want to do my own startup What would be more useful?

Me being able to build the product myself or me being able to analyze the data myself?

But the thing is for me, I think like when you're doing a startup, it's It's very easy to get insights from the data in the beginning, because all you want or care about is like, What's the retention of the users?

How many new users are getting already using this feature?

So getting more skills for data science doesn't translate well to being a very effective worker and at a start up.

So I thought being a softer engineering like being a suffragette here, might be Maur like, maybe more fitting to me and then the other reasons.

Just like I feel like I want to build things because I've always been like that.

And I also had a C s degree, so I might as well, you know, use it.

So it sounds like your like, ultimate goal long term goal is to do it started for work back then.

Now, like, I'm not that sure anymore because, like, because I like, you know, I've grown have changed and then yes, like, if I can do a startup, Yes.

But it's not my ultimate goal, but I do think about it sometimes.

Like it's just in case, in case I want to do it right?

Uh, I think another thing you mission is that you like building things.

Could you maybe tell us a little bit more?

So, um, like, not in the software related realm.

When I used to be when I was a kid, I used to play these games, and sometimes they're like these mini games with any games where you could, like, build things, and it's pretty useless, like it's I'm in part the the normal story.

Like, for example, kingdom parts you could build like your spaceship and stuff like, uh, and I just really like building that spaceship and then just see it, Just like yeah, like playing like Legos.

I used to like I used to like tinkering with things.

There was something called the rain meter.

Windows is where you could, like, make your own widgets on your desktop.

And I just like to make things nice, you know, or, like, useful.

And yes, So I think in my mind also videos, right?

Like, videos is also something that you kind of build and create because yeah.

So and I also like Photoshopped I still like, you know, like making new images out of, like, multiple images and stuff like that.

So I thought to myself, like, you know, I was always, like a builder.

So you felt like in Dennis eyes you weren't You weren't doing enough building.

You don't build anything at all because I especially what I was doing.

Usually just do something doing analysis or basically do something such that you could convince other people to build stuff.

But you never actually build your own thing.

Especially at a big company where Dana Engineering is already done.

All you have to do is just get some data, like, spit out in sites like you don't you don't build anything.

Um, it depends because, like, some part of me do like doing analysis and like understanding to product inside out because I really like to spend time and understand users.

And but, yes, it sucks that there's nothing that I can show for, right?

So it sounds like, um, you liked some of the things that you were doing as a neuroscientist.

But they were like these other things that you missed.

I think I took two weeks off like of work.

And then I also I I still kept I kept making videos also, but then at one point, I stopped making videos for, like, like, months.

But then I also like, took a lot of vacation during work, so I was literally doing nothing, all right?

All right, See, you know, and then eventually you decided to take the leave or take the leap on, uh, leave your job pretty much, Yeah.

What was that process was just like so, Yes.

So at first, like, I didn't think about leaving my job directly.

I was thinking about like, Oh, maybe I could switch teams, you know, because because maybe the problem isn't the job.

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