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  • Moral psychology isn't always an easy thing to study.

  • First of all, just using a survey

  • to ask people what they think is moral

  • doesn't always reveal what they would do in real life.

  • An experiment that actually puts people

  • in what feels like a real scenario

  • may get more realistic results,

  • but researchers must always balance the benefits

  • of what we could learn

  • with the safety and well-being of the people they study.

  • Secondly, what we learn from moral psychology experiments

  • doesn't always make humans look good.

  • For example, today we're going to look at moral licensing:

  • the theory that when you do something good...

  • you subconsciously feel you've earned a license

  • to then do something bad.

  • I've been working with Dr. Kyle Stanford,

  • from the Department of Logic and Philosophy of Science

  • at the University of California, Irvine,

  • on a way to observe moral licensing in the wild.

  • So I want to see moral licensing in effect.

  • I want to see people who have been led to believe,

  • through their own actions, that they're good.

  • Use that feeling

  • to do bad.

  • The thing to keep in mind,

  • it's like people are keeping tabs,

  • and they give themselves credit for the moral...

  • the good thing they did.

  • But none of that is happening consciously, right?

  • So we shouldn't imagine that a person who's engaged

  • in moral licensing is asking themselves in their head...

  • Right, pulling out their scorecard.

  • ...what should I be? Does it make me a good person?

  • But it is going on, and they don't experience it.

  • -They don't know that it's happening. -Right.

  • I think we're going to learn a lot today.

  • -I say we go get started. -Let's do it.

  • Let's do it.

  • [Michael] So here's how the moral licensing test

  • we designed is going to work.

  • First, we're going to take this beautiful park

  • and, for the purposes of science,

  • throw trash everywhere.

  • Next, we've hired some unsuspecting actors

  • who think they're going to film a public service announcement

  • about the park.

  • -Hey, Jake. Hey, man. -Hi.

  • -Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you.

  • Once they've arrived,

  • it will be obvious that the trash is a problem.

  • We just need to clean up this little alleyway right here.

  • Will they do a good deed and earn some moral credit

  • by volunteering to help pick up the trash, or not?

  • And to make everything feel more real,

  • we did have them film our fake PSA.

  • Forget the concrete and the heat.

  • Relax in over 16,000 square feet.

  • Of outdoor space that can't be beat.

  • Right outside your door.

  • Right outside your door.

  • Right outside your door.

  • After shooting the PSA,

  • each participant will be asked to wait in a separate area

  • for some final paperwork.

  • There, our confederate Cameron, who appears to be homeless,

  • will ask them for money.

  • Meanwhile, Dr. Stanford and I will be watching

  • behind the scenes to observe how our subjects react.

  • So, will our participants

  • keep their subconscious moral scorecards balanced

  • by giving money when they didn't clean,

  • or feeling like they don't need to give money if they did?

  • -Hey! -Makaylo.

  • Makaylo, nice to meet you.

  • First up in our demo was Makaylo.

  • We used our actual Mind Field crew

  • as the crew of the fake PSA

  • who are overwhelmed with the task

  • of cleaning up all the trash.

  • We normally sort of never ask this, but...

  • we've got, like, all this stuff that we're trying to clean up.

  • I'm going to grab some gloves. I was wondering,

  • would you help me?

  • -I'm sorry... -Let's do it. Let's do it.

  • All three of us can triple-team it.

  • -and we can get this thing going. -Let's do it. Let's do it.

  • Yeah, this is just what we wanted to do today.

  • It looks like someone had a good time, though.

  • [Michael] All right, so picking up the trash.

  • How do you think that's currently sitting

  • with our actor?

  • He's thinking of himself as having done a good deed

  • that he didn't need to do, that he didn't have to do.

  • Right? And so the moral credit is high.

  • [Michael] Then it was time to shoot our PSA.

  • [man] Take it away.

  • Forget the concrete and the heat.

  • Relax in 16,000 square feet.

  • [man] That was great! All right, man.

  • -Hey, thanks so much. -Cool. No problem, man.

  • We compensated our participants for the PSA in small bills

  • so they would have plenty to give the homeless man,

  • should they choose to do so.

  • -Here's $50. -Thank you, thank you.

  • Then we asked them to wait in a nearby tent

  • for their final paperwork.

  • Will Makaylo's good deed be enough moral credit

  • for him to pass on helping the homeless guy?

  • All right, Cameron, this is Michael.

  • You can go ahead.

  • What's up?

  • -What's up? -Hi.

  • Are you with this?

  • Yeah, I'm just waiting for someone to help me out here.

  • Could you help me out with like a dollar or two?

  • Just, I can go to the vending machine?

  • Sorry, my man, I ain't got nothing but $20 bills on me right now.

  • Oh, I got nothing but $20 bills.

  • [laughs]

  • -You sure? -Yeah, man.

  • All right, well...

  • [Michael] We're going to go talk to him.

  • Hey, Makaylo.

  • -Hey. -Thanks for waiting.

  • -I'm Michael. Nice to meet you. -No problem. Makaylo.

  • -This is Kyle. -Nice to meet you.

  • Nice to meet you, Makaylo.

  • We really appreciate your help today.

  • -I just saw-- Did a guy come by? -Yes.

  • What did he ask?

  • -For a dollar bill. -[Michael] Oh, for a dollar bill?

  • Yeah.

  • Did you give him money?

  • -No. -What'd you tell him?

  • I just told him I didn't have anything.

  • So I'm going to debrief you on what we're doing here today.

  • We're doing a psychological exploratory experiment

  • on what's called moral licensing.

  • We're looking at the correlation between people

  • who do volunteer to help pick up the trash,

  • and how generous you are later

  • to a homeless person who walks by.

  • Interesting.

  • Now, you just exhibited the exact pattern

  • of moral licensing, right?

  • In that you had already done a good deed--

  • So I was good for the day. Right.

  • [Michael] Did we just see

  • moral licensing in effect?

  • Perhaps.

  • Let's see what our other subjects do.

  • Here, let me just have you hang out here.

  • Is there anybody that can help us clean up this?

  • -I'm going to go look around. -All right.

  • Okay, so this is Alex.

  • And Alex is just messing with his stuff.

  • [Kyle] He's either not really noticing,

  • or pretending not to notice.

  • But all of that is just fine.

  • The question is what he then goes on to do.

  • [Michael] So Alex didn't help pick up trash.

  • Will his guilt put him at a moral deficit,

  • and therefore motivate him to give money to the homeless man?

  • Hey.

  • Can you spare some money? Maybe help me out?

  • -You want a buck? -A buck? Yeah.

  • Can I give you a buck? Is that cool?

  • [Cameron] That's more than cool, man.

  • I just got paid to be here.

  • -Really? -Yeah.

  • Helping to shoot a PSA, yeah.

  • Where do I sign up?

  • -Thank you. -All right, take care.

  • All right. Very interesting.

  • I do wonder if he felt a little bit of guilt.

  • We got it in the opposite direction,

  • -which was going to be the hard thing to do. -Yeah.

  • I'm very happy about this.

  • [Michael] Next, we have Jake.

  • So I'm on set doing a PSA shoot.

  • [Michael] Hey, he's doing a vlog.

  • And I get here, and it appears

  • that someone had a... what could only be described

  • as a trash party.

  • I mean, they just threw trash literally everywhere,

  • all over where they want to shoot.

  • So I'm going to go help them pick up some of the trash.

  • First, I'm going to make sure that I document

  • that I'm a helper.

  • I would also like to point out, though, that he has not helped.

  • -[Kyle] Right. -He's gone back into the tent.

  • And I wonder, when it comes to moral licensing,

  • does this play an effect?

  • I can check the box. Not only am I good,

  • but the world knows I'm good.

  • Now, this is something we haven't seen before.

  • [Michael] I love this.

  • I love that he got credit for helping,

  • -but didn't. -Right.

  • What's interesting but hard to know

  • is how that'll look to him,

  • whether he'll see himself as having done a good deed,

  • or seeing himself as kind of skated on the obligation,

  • because he didn't really help.

  • Hey, do you think you could spare some money,

  • maybe help me out?

  • Here, man. Here's a dollar.

  • -Really? -Yeah.

  • Go for it.

  • All right, you're a good man. Thank you.

  • We were really curious as we were watching this all unfold,

  • because you agreed to help, and then you recorded a video

  • about how you were going to help,

  • but by the time all that was over,

  • you didn't need to help.

  • It was all cleaned up.

  • -Right. -So we were wondering,

  • did you feel like you had helped, or not?

  • No. I didn't have time to.

  • And you didn't feel guilty.

  • Like, ooh, I kind of like got out of helping.

  • No, I didn't feel bad about that.

  • I would have definitely picked up trash.

  • Erin's likely to be thinking that she's doing a good deed.

  • Yeah.

  • Could you maybe help me out, give me some money?

  • I'm sorry, I don't have anything on me here.

  • -No? -They won't let me.

  • -Oh. -Yeah.

  • -That was great. -Yes, we have a couple

  • good illustrations in both directions.

  • [Michael] We seemed to have witnessed moral licensing

  • at play in several cases.

  • But, of course, as with any demonstration like this,

  • our results weren't always cut-and-dry.

  • I'm going to go try to clean this up myself,

  • and then...

  • Gotcha. Yeah, yeah.

  • Some of the participants both didn't help clean

  • and declined to give our homeless man money.

  • Could you maybe spare some change?

  • I just want to go to the vending machine?

  • Uh...

  • However, they did find other ways to help hiim

  • that could qualify as a good deed.

  • They have snacks, maybe.

  • I'm going to take a pop.

  • [laughs] Okay.

  • Do you want a soda or something?

  • Yeah, that'd be...

  • Do you maybe have a little money as well?

  • -I don't, sorry. But... -Okay.

  • ...which one do you want?

  • So what was going through your mind

  • when you made the decision not to give

  • some of the cash that we know you had

  • to the man who was asking?

  • You know, there's just like a whole bunch of stereotypes

  • about homeless people.

  • And you don't know what you're getting into.

  • [Michael] And we had a couple subjects

  • who both volunteered to clean and gave money.

  • Do you need any assistance?

  • If you wouldn't mind, that'd be really helpful.

  • [Michael] Oh, he's offering to help. Oh!

  • -Do you need any help? -Oh, would you mind?

  • -[Kyle] Oh, she just offered. She offered. -[Michael] She's volunteered.

  • These were the only two participants

  • who did good deeds at both opportunities.

  • -[man] Thank you so much for the help. -[Diana] Of course.

  • -Do you maybe have some spare change? -Here you go.

  • -Thanks a lot. -Best of luck.

  • -Here you go. Hope it helps. -Thank you so much.

  • You're welcome.

  • [Michael] All right, let's go talk to her.

  • Another good, good person.

  • What motivated you to give the man money?

  • I actually tend to give people money often.

  • I don't know if that's the best thing.

  • Interesting.

  • So two people both cleaned and donated money.

  • But everyone else either cleaned and didn't give,

  • or didn't clean, but gave in some form.

  • What do you think about how everything went?

  • Well, it was really interesting. I would like to do it with many more people.

  • But I think we saw the phenomenon, right?

  • We saw the thing happen.

  • Something we weren't expecting, actually,

  • is sort of the gap between what people did

  • and what they said about why they did it.

  • -Yeah. -Right? And that's something--

  • I mean, social psychology generally has learned

  • to be very suspicious of people's rationales

  • or justifications for their own behavior.

  • But these actually fit kind of nicely.

  • You could see people straining to defend themselves

  • if they didn't do a good deed that was open to them.

  • Right? And then a lot of people who did good deeds had the,

  • "Well, of course, that's what anyone would do" attitude.

  • -Right? -[Michael] Yeah.

  • I believe our study

  • successfully created the conditions

  • for moral licensing to emerge.

  • It was a great first step

  • towards taking this kind of study

  • out of the lab and into the real world.

  • But, of course, many people already have a philosophy

  • about giving to the homeless that might be stronger

  • than the impact of a good deed they do.

  • So we're not done yet.

  • Now, here's what I want to do next, okay?

  • We learned a lot of lessons today,

  • and I think one of them is that when the scenarios

  • you put people in

  • are scenarios they may have experienced before,

  • that can affect the results.

  • If someone did or did not give money to a homeless person,

  • they can easily explain it away as,

  • "Well, I never do," or "I always do."

  • I want to find a scenario

  • that we don't find ourselves in very often,

  • that we haven't created a philosophy

  • or identity about ourselves around.

  • For instance,

  • allowing someone else to take the blame

  • for something that you did.

  • Because that seems like a scenario

  • where all of us would say we would never let that happen.

  • But if we build up significant moral license in that person,

  • will they actually do something

  • that none of us would ever want to admit that we would do?

  • Are you down to plan something else?

  • I am down indeed.

  • All right, let's do it.

  • [Michael] Kyle and I developed a different sort of test

  • to really try and pinpoint moral licensing

  • by putting our participants in a situation

  • they'd likely never been in before,

  • and thus had no preconceived assumptions about.

  • A test that might make people behave in a way

  • that could surprise even themselves.

  • Welcome, everybody. Thank you for coming today.

  • In a nutshell, what we're doing

  • is we're going to see if we can get people to do something

  • that almost all of us would never admit

  • we're capable of doing:

  • to allow a child to take the blame

  • for a crime they committed.

  • And we're going to do that by using moral licensing.

  • Early on in the demonstration or experiment,

  • they're going to have an opportunity to donate money.

  • To really up the value of their moral action,

  • we will tell the participants that for every dollar they give

  • of the money they've made today,

  • 100 times that amount will be given to children's hospitals.

  • So if they donate just a dollar today,

  • they'll feel like they gave $100.

  • We're giving them a chance there to do something morally good

  • that will hopefully make them feel

  • like they don't have to step up

  • and keep this innocent child from taking the fall

  • for their crimes later on.

  • They just think they're coming to test out

  • really cool VR equipment

  • at the YouTube Space in Los Angeles.

  • Our participants will think that they're here to focus-test

  • a new kind of VR technology.

  • But what they don't know

  • is that everyone else is a hired actor,

  • including the child, Noah.

  • [laughs]

  • Participants will be told that security

  • is of the utmost concern,

  • and not to let anyone into the room.

  • Just be sure not to let anybody in,

  • because the doors... you need a key card.

  • But while waiting,

  • someone will knock on the door.

  • [knock]

  • If they break protocol and open the door,

  • the man they let in will steal some of the VR equipment.

  • [man] You guys have a good day.

  • Even though the participant let the thief in,

  • Noah will volunteer that he did,

  • and be blamed for what the participant knows

  • they were responsible for.

  • -And, Noah, you let him in? -Yeah.

  • Yeah, I let someone in.

  • [Michael] Putting participants into difficult moral scenarios

  • needs to be done carefully,

  • so we have a psychiatrist on call.

  • Now with all the details in place, it's time to begin.

  • All right, Noah, we are starting...

  • now.

  • [woman] All right.

  • Head on in. Go ahead and grab a seat.

  • Our first participant is Kimberly.

  • Kimberly gave $1 of her earnings from the study,

  • which means she thinks that she's donated $100.

  • [woman] Just be sure that if you guys

  • need to go to the bathroom or anything like that,

  • be sure to let someone know.

  • Because no one without a key card

  • -should be coming back in. -Okay. Gotcha.

  • All right, Noah, you can cue your mom to leave.

  • -[mother] Just stay there. -[Noah] Okay.

  • [Michael] To get rid of any eyewitnesses,

  • Noah's mom left the room to go get a coffee.

  • -[door closes] -Have you done this?

  • -No. I'm excited. -No?

  • -Oh, nice. -Have you?

  • -No. -Oh.

  • I'm excited. [both chuckle]

  • [knock on door]

  • [Michael] Oh, there's the knocking.

  • So our thief is trying to get in.

  • The question is, will Kimberly let him in?

  • [knocking persists]

  • Is somebody knocking?

  • I love those suspicious eyes.

  • -[man] Thank you so much. -Oh, yeah, you're welcome.

  • -Oh, "thank you," "you're welcome." -Awesome.

  • You guys having a good day?

  • Yeah.

  • You guys have a good day.

  • Thank you.

  • All right, I think we are finally ready for you.

  • Okay, I'll have you...

  • do you guys know if there was anybody

  • who wasn't supposed to be in here?

  • Yeah, I let someone in.

  • Okay.

  • Um...

  • stay right here.

  • I'll be right back.

  • Okey-dokey.

  • [door closes]

  • What happened?

  • I don't know.

  • Kimberly didn't speak up.

  • We'll get to see the full escalation.

  • [woman] Yeah, I was gone for maybe, like, three minutes,

  • and...

  • one of the sets is gone.

  • I mean...

  • [sighs]

  • ...the amount of technology.

  • The protocols that are kept in there.

  • You just opened the door and let someone in?

  • Yeah.

  • Mm-mm.

  • Oh, my gosh.

  • My heart rate's going.

  • I mean, I didn't know, so...

  • I think Kimberly's really nervous to say anything.

  • [Kyle] She hasn't decided at this point

  • that she's going to let him take the blame.

  • But she's seeing how it plays out.

  • [Michael] To further heighten the situation,

  • and to prolong the opportunity

  • for Kimberly to come clean,

  • we sent in security.

  • -How old are you, son? -Twelve.

  • You're 12? All right, just have the rest of the employees

  • stay out of the hallway, give the officers room to come in.

  • Okay, we have to keep things safe,

  • because just in case there's something else going on here.

  • Can you tell me what you saw?

  • Is there something that you saw,

  • or that you noticed that was...?

  • I literally just came in, like, five minutes ago,

  • and there was just dudes coming in and out.

  • -So... -Okay.

  • The guy that he's describing, he was coming in and out?

  • There was like a couple guys coming in and out, so...

  • -[Noah] But there were tons of guys coming in and out. -Yeah.

  • All right, I'm going to have Calvin take the kid away.

  • Okay, sorry, but...

  • Mom, you and the son are going to need to come with me, okay?

  • Yeah, still have them come in.

  • [Michael] Kimberly was given many chances to tell the truth,

  • but she said nothing,

  • letting poor Noah take the blame.

  • [mother] Why?

  • One little thing to follow.

  • [Noah] Sorry.

  • Can I go?

  • Like, everybody left.

  • I'm not going to be here by myself.

  • We got to get in there.

  • Okay, let's go, Kyle.

  • -Are you Kimberly? -I am. Yeah.

  • I'm gonna debrief you on what's been happening here today.

  • Okay?

  • There is no VR experience.

  • I'm Michael Stevens, I'm the host of a psychology program.

  • And this is Kyle Stanford. He works at UC, Irvine,

  • -in Philosophy and Logic. -Yes. Of course.

  • Now, you gave a donation today.

  • Yeah.

  • How'd you feel about that?

  • I was, like, let me help out.

  • When the child actor took responsibility

  • for letting a person in,

  • were you at all conflicted

  • about the fact that he was taking

  • full responsibility for everything?

  • I was literally, like, just frozen.

  • I was just frozen.

  • And then I was kind of like,

  • I feel so uncomfortable right now.

  • I, like, just kind of let him say whatever he wanted.

  • And I assume, like, if somebody actually took anything,

  • they'd be like, hey, you're the one that let the guy in.

  • In Kimberly's case,

  • she may have been displaying moral licensing.

  • Kimberly donated,

  • and that might have given her the moral credit

  • to then not accept blame.

  • [Kyle] If she's not being insincere,

  • she's not lying...

  • -She's asking herself, like-- -...and convincing herself,

  • she's utterly typical, we all do that.

  • What subjects are most likely doing is confabulating

  • in a way to defend whatever behavior they engage in,

  • especially if they decided to let Noah take the fall.

  • What I love is that confabulation.

  • Some participants gave no donation...

  • [knock on door]

  • ...and subsequently followed the order not to open the door.

  • [man] Guys, please.

  • My hands are full. I got to get this in there.

  • My boss told me to.

  • [knocking persists]

  • Please, guys.

  • This is Zeus.

  • He chose to donate $5,

  • which means he feels like he's responsible

  • for a $500 donation.

  • Hey, guys.

  • Did you...

  • was there anyone in here

  • who didn't have one of these key cards?

  • Yes. Sorry, I let someone in.

  • Okay, I...

  • -Wait, wait, wait. -...I will be right back.

  • Miss, that was me.

  • Don't take the blame for me. It was me.

  • I thought he worked here.

  • Okay, um...

  • just stay right here, guys.

  • I will be right back.

  • [Michael] Even though Zeus donated money,

  • he still did what many of us would consider the right thing:

  • he confessed.

  • Situations like this can be difficult.

  • We don't always like what we learn about ourselves.

  • In fact, one of the participants

  • who donated the largest amount

  • allowed Noah to be removed by security

  • and asked to not be included in this episode.

  • Our last participant was Michael,

  • who did not donate.

  • [man] Hey. Hello.

  • I got a box out here, man. I can't...

  • hello?

  • Thank you, man.

  • I'm amazed that no one has asked the guy for a badge.

  • Right.

  • Was there someone in here?

  • This guy just came in.

  • -He was banging on the door. -Uh-huh.

  • Came in, picked something up, and then he walked out.

  • Okay.

  • -Um... -I was drawing.

  • ...did he have a badge?

  • -I don't know. -I let him in, so...

  • I let him in. I don't know what happened.

  • He was banging on the door...

  • Michael initially confessed,

  • his behavior in line with moral licensing.

  • But Noah spoke up, giving Michael an out.

  • Will Michael stick to the truth?

  • -Oh, here we go. -Oh, okay.

  • He let the guy in.

  • Son, can you tell me what happened?

  • Yeah, a guy was knocking on the door and he said,

  • "Can I please come in?" Something about his boss.

  • And then...

  • [security guard] You said...

  • Guy was banging on the door, said "his boss..."

  • Opened the door for him. He comes in here...

  • he takes something, and then he walks out.

  • [security guard] And, Noah, you let him in?

  • [Noah] Yeah.

  • [security guard] Okay, you opened the door and let him in. Okay.

  • What must be racing through Michael's head right now?

  • -Why is this kid... -It's very hard to imagine.

  • This is a very strange situation...

  • -[Michael] Obviously. -...a regular person to be in.

  • I think you're just thinking,

  • "Why is this kid saying he did it?"

  • [Kyle] Trying to figure it out. Yeah.

  • I think, at this point,

  • you and your mom are going to need to come with me,

  • because we're going to need to talk to the police,

  • because he opened the door,

  • and he was not supposed to open the door,

  • -and he opened up the door. -If you'd just listen.

  • I tell you, just listen.

  • -I promise we're right-- -Mom, come with me.

  • Promise.

  • Just keep your hands to yourself and do what I ask you to do.

  • God!

  • [Michael] We should go in.

  • Right.

  • What made it difficult to come forward

  • and admit that you were the one who opened the door?

  • I felt uncomfortable that something was stolen, one.

  • Two, that this kid was going to take the blame.

  • I mean, I needed to step up and be accountable

  • if I opened the door.

  • But it was just... didn't quite know what was going on

  • in that scenario there.

  • [Michael] Michael's behavior shows us

  • just how complicated moral reasoning is.

  • That even when we want to do the right thing,

  • it doesn't take much for us to step back

  • and abandon that sense of morality if, and when,

  • we are given an out.

  • So, Kyle.

  • I was pretty surprised by how far

  • so many people were willing to let the wrong blame game go.

  • Viewers may well be sitting there

  • judging the people who didn't jump up to take responsibility.

  • But I think the kind of evidence we're gathering

  • shows that it's much more possible than you think

  • to get regular people to do things

  • that they immediately feel regretful about.

  • Another kind of lesson I think we get here

  • is to remind ourselves how sensitive all of us are

  • to features of the situation,

  • even if we feel in our heart of hearts

  • -like there's no way we could ever have wound up doing it. -Yeah.

  • That is probably the number-one lesson,

  • and I'm so grateful to the participants we had here today

  • who helped us illustrate that, because without the illustrations,

  • it's just a word in a textbook.

  • Right.

  • We are all capable of doing things

  • we'd never expect ourselves to do.

  • And the choices that you make

  • can have less to do with how good or bad

  • you are as a person,

  • and more to do with how you've acted recently.

  • Now, that might sound unfortunate,

  • but we are imperfect creatures.

  • And that's nothing to be ashamed of,

  • because we are also curious.

  • And the more we learn about why and how

  • we make the moral choices that we do,

  • the better we'll be able to tackle

  • difficult questions in the future.

  • And, as always,

  • thanks for watching.

Moral psychology isn't always an easy thing to study.

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モラルライセンス (Moral Licensing)

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    林宜悉 に公開 2021 年 01 月 14 日
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