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  • Michael Okun: Your brain controls everything.

  • Kelly Foote: And we can control your brain.

  • (Laughter)

  • MO: Now, you might be wondering why a neurologist and a neurosurgeon

  • are talking together.

  • Most people that know the traditional roles

  • of neurologists and neurosurgeons, they know that

  • there's not much chance we're gonna talk at all.

  • But it turns out, what we're gonna tell you about today,

  • it takes a "we", it takes a team.

  • And in fact, there is a whole bunch of people

  • that have to stand behind us

  • to do what makes this happen.

  • KF: So, we are going to start a little bit by talking about the brain.

  • Your brain is a living super computer.

  • As we learnt earlier, there are a hundred billion neurons in the brain.

  • And each one of those neurons has the capacity to fire.

  • That is to say, to send an on signal

  • -- we call it an action potential -- to other neurons that it's connected to.

  • Neurons have two states, on or off.

  • Your brain speaks a binary language just like your computer.

  • These neurons are interconnected

  • with living wires called axones and dendrites,

  • and at those connections, which are called synapses,

  • it's estimated that there are 100 trillon synapses in the human brain.

  • So, we're up to speed.

  • The neurons in the brain tend to be clustered in functional units called nuclei,

  • and then those nuclei wire together

  • in functional circuits, and those functional circuits

  • control everything you do and everything you are.

  • MO: Now, when those circuits, become disfunctional, what happens?

  • Bad things happen.

  • That's when patients come to see us,

  • Parkinson's disease, Tourette syndrome, tremor...

  • and there's a lot of really smart people out there

  • who've tried to figure out what happens to cause these diseases.

  • Maybe there's a piece of the DNA that gets left out,

  • maybe there's a chemical that's out of wack,

  • maybe there's a protein that is accumulating in the brain.

  • Whatever the reason, we actually can't see the dysfunction in this set of diseases.

  • We can point to an MRI scan but we can't see a problem

  • because it's not structural.

  • So, what we need to do is we need to find that circuit that's misfiring

  • and we need to apply electricity

  • in something that's called Deep Brain Stimulation (DBS).

  • KF: So, why on earth would we put an electrode in someone's brain

  • and try to control it?

  • Are we mad scientists?

  • Maybe, but we'll come back to that question.

  • First, let me show you what we are talking about.

  • This is a gentleman in our operating room,

  • who has essential tremor.

  • There are a group of neurons in his brain

  • that control the movement of his hand and that are firing in synchrony

  • in a pathologic way; and, this is what it produces.

  • When we can identify those neurons in his brain,

  • deliver electrical stimulation to that place

  • and interrupt that malfunctioning circuit...

  • this is what happens.

  • MO: Let me show you another example.

  • The next woman that we're gonna show you, she has multiple sclerosis.

  • She is trying to hold that arm still.

  • She says that it's useless to her.

  • This is quite embarrassing, and in fact

  • the neurons in the brain that are causing this,

  • there's so much dysfunction

  • that we'll actually have to put two of these DBS leads into the brain.

  • We'll insert two wires into the brain to get this.

  • How cool is that!

  • (Applause)

  • KF: So, how fun is our job!

  • (Laughter)

  • If you think that's fun,

  • let me tell you the story of another one of our patients

  • that will blow your mind.

  • This young woman from Devenport, Iowa,

  • who has the same disease as Howard Huges died of,

  • called Obsessive Compulsive Disorder or OCD.

  • She is obsessed with fears of being contaminated,

  • everything out there is dirty to her

  • and she is paralyzed by these fears.

  • She won't touch anything. In fact,

  • when she came to see us the first time,

  • she refused to sit down in our psychriatrist's office for her first interview.

  • Let me tell you about her life.

  • She's had Obsessive Compulsive Disorder for a long time.

  • But when she got pregnant, her symptoms got a lot worse.

  • And of course everybody said, you know,

  • "it's the hormones, I'm sure when you deliver the baby everything will be OK."

  • Well, it wasn't. It got a lot worse.

  • And then, two years later, Child Protective Services

  • is threatening to take her 2-year-old daughter away

  • because she can't stop washing her.

  • Her baby is red and scaly and tender.

  • Now, here is the cruel thing about Obsessive Compulsive Disorder:

  • these patients have insight.

  • She knows that she is hurting her baby,

  • she knows that her obsessions are irrational,

  • she knows she is driving away the people that love her...

  • and she has no power to stop these behaviours.

  • If you can imagine, her husband is pretty tired of it.

  • Let me tell you about his experience.

  • He goes to work, he comes home from work, he pulls his car into the garage,

  • closes the door behind him so that he can strip naked

  • and launder his "contaminated clothes"

  • in a special laundry facility that she's set up outside the house.

  • And then, he walks into the house and takes a "decontamination shower"

  • with a special soap that she has deemed acceptable,

  • so that he would be allowed to walk into his home naked and clean.

  • She can't leave the house,

  • so he does all the shopping.

  • He comes home from the grocery store,

  • and, of course, all the packages at the grocery store are "contaminated".

  • So there's the ritual of opening every can of soup and every box of cereal and

  • transferring the content of those packages

  • into some clean container that she says is OK to bring into the house.

  • So, as you might imagine, this is a marriage that is strained.

  • So... she is desperate and she's tried everything.

  • She's a smart lady.

  • She's taken all the medication, she's been through in-patient behavioural therapy programs,

  • nothing's working.

  • She heard about our research and she contacted us.

  • And we implanted two deep brain stimulators in her brain

  • in the area of the brain that we thought

  • would be likely to help quiet these obsessive thoughts that are plaguing her.

  • And, to make a long story short,

  • this is her today.

  • It worked and it was pretty damned exciting to us.

  • (Applause)

  • Now, I have to say that at one point she did call me in a panic.

  • She said, "Dr. Foote, something is terribly wrong, my DBS have stopped working because

  • I was at the movie theater last night and I was walking across the floor

  • and it was really sticky and I was completely grossed out."

  • (Laughter)

  • And I calmed her down and I said, "Woh, wait a minute.

  • Number one, you were at the movie theater last night,

  • and number two, that really grosses me out too!

  • (Laughs)

  • I think you are gonna be OK."

  • So, to me, the most intriguing thing about this case

  • is that we are moving beyond using deep brain stimulation

  • to treat movement disorders like Parkinson's disease and tremor,

  • which now we know we can do,

  • and it looks like we are gonna be able to address malfunctioning

  • other circuits in the brain like limbic circuitry that cause problems

  • like depression and OCD.

  • MO: You know, Kelly, let me take that idea

  • just maybe one step further.

  • I'm gonna tell you something that's gonna blow your mind.

  • There is a place in the brain called the nucleus accumbens,

  • and a lot of scientists believe this is the final common pathway

  • for where pleasure lives.

  • It's the reward center, it's the motivation center.

  • If you take a heroine addict

  • and you put him in a functional MRI scanner, a fancy MRI scanner,

  • you give him his drug of choice,

  • this area lights up, the nucleus accumbens.

  • If you take a graduate student and you put her in the scanner,

  • and you give her chocolate or you tell her,

  • "Why don't you pretend like you're having a sexual fantasy?"

  • This area lights up, the nucleus accumbens.

  • So, it turns out in these patients that had OCD,

  • we're stimulating very close to that area.

  • And what I'm gonna show you next is a patient with OCD,

  • where we're gonna tickle that area inside the operating room and see what happens.

  • (Video) Man: [unclear] next condition is now...

  • (Girl laughing)

  • Oh, man!

  • Man: Describe what you're feeling right now.

  • Girl: I feel happy.

  • (Laughter)

  • MO: I - feel - happy.

  • Now we've done it.

  • Now we've crossed into that territory

  • where some of you are beginning to feel uncomfortable in your seats.

  • Is this something -- is this a technology where we can actually disrupt your thoughts?

  • Your emotions? We can control them?

  • KF: Should we control the way you feel?

  • (Laughter)

  • Maybe we are mad scientists.

  • (Laughter)

  • Well,obviously, this is powerful stuff

  • and we're excited about it.

  • But hopefully just as obviously,

  • we need some ethical guiding principle

  • to guide us on this journey into the electric brain.

  • And we're gonna propose one in a minute

  • but first Mike has one more patient story.

  • MO: Let me introduce you to Chris.

  • Chris is a young man who was normal

  • two years before this video was shot.

  • And now, his muscles have turned against him.

  • He has a disease called Distonia, where the muscles fight against each other,

  • and often leave him to suffer in these abnormal and uncomfortable postures.

  • Now, if we take Chris

  • and we try to find the region in the brain, that circuit we talked about

  • that's causing the disruption in his motor loop,

  • in the motor area that's causing his muscles to do this;

  • if we take Chris and we put DBS electrodes into him,

  • and we turn them on...

  • nothing happens.

  • But, if we wait, if we wait,

  • and we let the electrical stimulation set in,

  • what we're gonna see is that very slowly, over time,

  • over days, weeks, months... KF: Long, long time. MO: Long time (Laughter).

  • KF: We may have to wait a long time. MO: Centuries!

  • What we're gonna see is, slowly, that electrical stimulation

  • is gonna begin to work on that circuit.

  • His hands are gonna become loose,

  • he's gonna be able to tap his fingers.

  • Suddenly he can move his arms with fluidity.

  • His neck is starting to loosen up,

  • his back is starting to loosen up, he is even looking at his hand saying,

  • I'm not sure how my hand can do this.

  • Very slowly the brain is reprogramming,

  • it's reorganizing this circuit in response to the electricity

  • that's coming out of that implantable electrode; it's remodeling Chris's brain.

  • Now, one day Chris is gonna wake up.

  • He's gonna tell his mum, "Mum, I think I can walk again."

  • And he will...

  • KF: And he did! (Applause)

  • MO: So, what've we learnt?

  • KF: Well, we've learnt that the brain is a super computer,

  • and that we can tweak it with Deep Brain Stimulation.

  • MO: You know, I think we can summarize this in three points:

  • identify, intervene and personalize.

  • Identify the abnormal circuit in the brain,

  • intervene with Deep Brain Stimulation,

  • and personalize the approach,

  • tailor the approach to the symptoms of the sufferer.

  • KF: And we should point out also that

  • I believe we're just scratching the surface here.

  • This is powerful technology and if you think about it,

  • any malfunctioning circuit in the brain

  • that's causing a problem for a human being,

  • if we can figure out where that mulfunction is,

  • there's the potential for us to modulate that mulfunctioning circuit to help that person.

  • So, let's come back to that question that we posed earlier --

  • not the mad scientist question,

  • the question about an ethical principle,

  • and the question about why on earth

  • would we implant an electrode in someone's brain to try to control it?

  • And the answer is, and should always be,

  • to alleviate human suffering.

  • Your brain contols everything.

  • MO: And we can control your brain.

  • (Laughter) (Applause)

Michael Okun: Your brain controls everything.

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