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  • - Like, I'll be honest with you, my gran,

  • I mean my whole family's like,

  • they're not TV or entertainment people.

  • So even hanging out with my grandmother

  • on The Daily Show was just like a freak thing that happened

  • because my Gran on the day was just like,

  • she didn't even think of it as TV.

  • She was just like, I was in Soweto

  • for the Global Citizens Festival

  • and then I was like,

  • "Maybe we should go to my grandmother's house."

  • And the TV crew as like, "Can we come with you?"

  • I was like, "I'll ask."

  • (crowd laughs)

  • And I asked my gran, and I was like,

  • "Hey, there's a TV crew with me, they wanna come in."

  • And then she was like, "Well, what is that for?"

  • (crowd laughs)

  • And she's like, "Are these your friends?"

  • (crowd laughs)

  • And I was like, "Yeah."

  • She's like, "Oh yeah, your friends can come in."

  • (crowd laughs)

  • And then like they walked in and my Gran was like,

  • "Oh, your friends are white!"

  • (crowd laughs)

  • First thing's first.

  • Whenever you come into an African person's house,

  • you greet.

  • So the first thing I'm gonna do is greet.

  • Koko?

  • Koko?

  • (Gran speaks in a foreign language)

  • Hello Koko.

  • (Gran speaks in a foreign language)

  • (laughs)

  • (Trevor speaks in a foreign language)

  • How are you Koko?

  • Can we come in?

  • I've got, I've got some camera people Koko,

  • are we fine to come in?

  • If you say no, it's fine, I don't mind.

  • - No they can come in.

  • - Okay, okay.

  • Koko, I want you,

  • I want to welcome you to my show,

  • and I want to introduce you

  • to some of my friends and my viewers.

  • I brought them to South Africa to show them what it's like.

  • So they said because I'm coming, they want to meet you,

  • and they want me to ask you questions about my life.

  • - You were one of my grandchildren.

  • I always look at that photograph, you see the one?

  • - [Trevor] I remember.

  • - In there.

  • And I ask God, every morning when I look at it,

  • "Morning, Trevor." (Trevor laughs)

  • And he never answers.

  • - How old are you now, 91?

  • - Yeah, 91 and nine months

  • - When you get to 91, now you count months.

  • - Yeah, 91 years, nine months.

  • - We're here because the concert

  • at FNB stadium is celebrating 100 years of Nelson Mandela.

  • - Ehh, Madiba! - Madiba

  • - What was the first thing you remember

  • about Nelson Mandela?

  • - He was just like our God - Wow.

  • on earth, really.

  • - Because people have not seen a black man

  • who was an attorney.

  • - We were not allowed!

  • - Wow. - Nursing, teaching, policeman

  • for a black man, that's all.

  • So it was a wonder, even for Madiba.

  • - For young people, it's very hard for them

  • to understand how scary it was

  • to be a black person living

  • in South Africa during that time,

  • but everybody was scared of the police.

  • - Flying squads,

  • Each and every street there's a Flying Squad (hums),

  • a knock at 3:00 a.m.

  • The police, we used to call them black jacks

  • (yells in foreign language) just like that.

  • - Dress up. let's go.

  • - Yeah, and they were so tall, all of them.

  • - When you see white guys like this,

  • do they remind you of those police?

  • - Yeah!

  • - That's what you remind my grandmother of,

  • I hope you're happy bringing memories

  • of Flying Squad into my house.

  • There are some people who say now

  • because some people don't have jobs,

  • and because it's tough in South Africa.

  • It would be better to go back

  • to apartheid. - No, No thank you.

  • It wouldn't be better.

  • - Why not?

  • - Oh no, Trevor.

  • The laws of apartheid (whistles)

  • (speaks in foreign language)

  • - Do you what it's like to dig for potatoes with your hands?

  • - In the farms, no pay.

  • And then if one of these people working here dies

  • (speaks foreign language)

  • and you will still plant potatoes

  • on top of that someone. - Wow.

  • You're digging potatoes with your hands,

  • and if somebody dies from exhaustion next to you,

  • you dig a hole, you put them in that hole,

  • and then you carry on digging those potatoes.

  • (Gran whistles)

  • What was my contribution, how was, was I fighting apartheid?

  • - Not knowing.

  • - Not knowing?

  • - You were a kid, you were born a crime.

  • How could you fight apartheid?

  • - But I told them that I was an apartheid hero, Koko.

  • I wasn't?

  • - (laughs) When you were with me here,

  • oh Trevor, you gave me tough time.

  • - Why did I give you a tough time Koko?

  • - Because you wanted to play in the street

  • and I knew the Flying Squad was going to take you.

  • - So if I was playing in the street

  • the police would have arrested me.

  • - Yeah.

  • You know there were kids

  • who never knew what a white men was.

  • - So they thought I was white?

  • - They knew you were white, and they ran away.

  • (speaks foreign language)

  • - The kids ran away from me. - You.

  • - But why did they run away? - It was first time

  • they see a white man in their location

  • unannounced. - So for them, this was white?

  • - Yeah. - Wow.

  • I feel so special now Koko

  • to know that there was a time I was white.

  • (laughs loudly)

  • How old was I when this was happening, Koko?

  • - Three years

  • - Three years old? - Mm-hmm

  • - I was a very good looking baby, I'm sure.

  • - (whistles) Energetic and really naughty.

  • - But mostly good looking.

  • - Like hell.

  • - Yeah I'm sure Koko.

  • When I was here with you,

  • what did you do when I was naughty?

  • - Those big bumps (laughs) they know my slippers.

  • (laughs loudly)

  • (claps)

  • - Who was naughtier here, Koko, me or my mom?

  • - You were both, you would never tell Patricia what to do.

  • No, she did what she wanted to do,

  • and she was good at her work.

  • - You know how mom is.

  • - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

  • - Must always go up.

  • - Yeah, she takes no defeat.

  • Instead of defeat, you are challenging the wrong person

  • - So she was not only a black person

  • in job black people weren't supposed to be in,

  • but she was a manager of white people.

  • - What?

  • - But how did they allow that?

  • - How do I know, Trevor?

  • - And now I'm also a manager

  • of white people, Koko, unbelievable.

  • - It comes from your mother, dear

  • - It comes from my mother Koko.

  • Do you know I'm a manager of white people, Koko?

  • - You don't say.

  • - I'm telling you Koko,

  • there are white people who work for me.

  • - It's a pity because I don't even wish

  • to see where you stay.

  • (laughs loudly)

  • Fly over the sea like this?

  • No, not for me.

  • - Koko, have you ever watched The Daily Show?

  • - No, Trevor.

  • (speaks in foreign language) (Trevor laughs)

  • So I can not, and when I want DStv

  • that dish outside there, it's just there for fun.

  • - My Gran said she doesn't watch my show

  • because sometimes the electricity cuts out,

  • which is a very plausible excuse

  • and a nice way to let your grandson down.

  • - No, its not letting my grandson down.

  • (laughs loudly)

  • Even yesterday we had no electricity.

  • - No I hear you, Koko.

  • I didn't expect that answer, it's a good answer Koko.

  • So I must make sure that you have a generator,

  • so you can watch my show.

  • - Wonderful.

  • And then who fits my new generator?

  • - Who fits the generator?

  • - Uh-huh.

  • - Okay, so I must get someone to fit the generator also.

  • - I think so. - [Trevor] Okay.

  • (Gran speaks foreign language)

  • - Oh, and then I must also fix the cable, okay.

  • I feel like I've been tricked into doing a lot of things

  • for you to watch my TV show Koko.

  • (laughs loudly)

  • - At bogus price (speaks in foreign language)

  • - Thank you for having us Koko,

  • and thank you for letting me bring these cameras,

  • and thank you for sharing these stories with my friends,

  • and thank you being amazing.

  • - You've brought so many friends.

  • - I've brought too many friends Koko.

  • You guys must live now.

  • How's my grandmother doing?

  • Oh, she's fantastic man.

  • 91 years old and 10 months.

  • Yeah, she makes me count the years and months as well now,

  • its a new thing.

  • - [Woman In Audience] Did she cook for you?

  • - Did she cook for me?

  • No she is too old.

  • Oh, no, no, she even says to me.

  • I was like, "what do you do Koko?"

  • She's like, "Oh me?"

  • She's like, "I just enjoy being alive."

  • (audience claps)

  • And the all she does is she,

  • We're ready?

  • - [Director] We are, yeah.

  • - Yeah, all she does is she chills at home.

  • She's got her squad of grannies,

  • and they all just come and hangout, and she,

  • it's like a weird team of superheroes,

  • where they've all got their specialties,

  • and then hers is that her memory is bullet-proof.

  • So all her friends ask her

  • about the things they've forgotten about in life,

  • (crowd laughs)

  • But I'm like, she's got a better memory

  • than me, my mom, everybody.

  • She can tell you what year a thing happened,

  • what month everything.

  • And so, here friends come over

  • and they'll ask random questions.

  • They be like, "Nomalizo,"

  • be like, "Where did I meet my husband?"

  • (crowd laughs)

  • And then she'd be like, "Oh, you met in,"

  • and then she'll like tell stories.

  • It's amazing to watch, yeah.

  • And so all she does all day.

  • She just, she loves writing, that's what she does,

  • and I asked her why?

  • And she said, "To be 91

  • and know how to still read and write.

  • Oh, I'm so blessed."

  • (crowd laughs)

  • So that's all she does, yeah.

  • (Daily Show theme music)

- Like, I'll be honest with you, my gran,

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