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  • Hello world, I'm still terrible at Japanese even though I've lived in Japan for five years

  • So if you're looking for advice on how to succeed at learning, don't look at me.

  • At five years old, my niece had me beat when it came to speaking Japanese, even though I had been in the country for that number of years

  • Although not to brag or anything, but I can totally blow her out of the water when it comes to reading. Kanji. Yep

  • I'm like a third or fourth grader in that department. Just don't ask me to write it

  • what I have learned to master is failing so I can provide some good help on what not to do and

  • Despite all my ineptitude,

  • I have found a couple things that have worked for me, which I'll share at the end

  • but for now

  • Let's talk about why I still suck at Japanese after five years of living in Japan

  • As an English speaker, Japanese is hard

  • Let's travel back to a couple years ago sucking at Japanese sucked

  • It was such a downer. Can't read the newspaper to find out that it's hot in the summer

  • Can't read the ingredients to find out what's in my Onigiri

  • Can't read these magazines. Everything's so blurry. I'd try to study an hour a day, but I still sucked

  • But it stopped sucking so much once I did a little internet research

  • And discovered that the British had found out the reason for my woes

  • The estimated kept for a foreigner to learn basic English that would take them 360 hours

  • I had studied Japanese hours that much, but for Japanese it was

  • 1,000

  • Oh, I hadn't studied that much. So that was a kick in the butt the brain I felt winded for a moment

  • But once I recovered I realized I wasn't running a 10k but instead a marathon and you know

  • I only made the running analogy so that I could reuse this running footage. I labored so hard to capture

  • I mean just listen to the panting

  • So I was sitting here at my computer trying to find this 1000 hours study to provide evidence for all of you

  • But I couldn't find it instead what I found is that you need

  • 2200 hours of study to become proficient

  • Yeah

  • there are 4 categories of difficulty: Category 1 languages that are more similar to English and it's 600 to

  • 750 class hours to gain professional working proficiency, then there's Category 2, Category 3 and then Category 4

  • 2200 class hours, which they label super hard languages

  • Languages which are exceptionally difficult for native English speakers. On the one hand, this is great for my ego

  • I mean, it's not my fault. I suck. It takes 2200 hours. Ain't nobody got time for that.

  • Yet, that doesn't change the fact that my Japanese language

  • Marathon just got upgraded to ultra and yes ultra marathons do exist

  • They're 100 kilometer affair that appealed to the running masochists at heart now now I know what you're saying.

  • Hey Mr. White sounding Mexican guy. You have to read the fine print. Okay, that's true. De acuerdo, eso es verdad.

  • The 1000 hours was to be basic. The 2200 hours was to reach a professional working proficiency.

  • It is assumed that the student has above-average aptitude for classroom learning of foreign languages

  • Lower aptitude language learners who will typically take longer.

  • Oh, but come on what sham sources is

  • 2200 hours of study coming from? It turns out it's from the US Department of State's foreign service institute school of language studies

  • Which I like to call the USDSFSISLS.

  • The instructional program reflects 70 years of experience in teaching language to US diplomats

  • I know there's a lot of fake news in the US. As your president so kind of reminds me

  • And fortunately we tend to record stories now so we have it for your enjoyment if you'd like it, but we record when we deal with reporters

  • It's called fake news Thank You. Mr. President. So knowing this I searched harder on the Internet

  • And found this guy and he says I could have been fluent in three months

  • So I must be doing something wrong because I could have been speaking just like this

  • Nihon no Shuumatsu e Youkoso (Welcome to the weekend in Japan)

  • Nikka ketsu kan (In the past two months)

  • Skaippu de (using Skype),

  • Hanasedeshita Ga, Kyou wa Hajimete (to practice speaking Japanese. Today for the first time)

  • Hajimete, nihongo (.. first time, I..)

  • Chakkusetsu desu ( ???? Japanese)

  • Now to be fair

  • He said he didn't get to study the entire three months because he got real sick and then he was busy on his book deal

  • On learning languages in three months. So this is only his two months progress

  • He was initially aiming for N2+ on the Japanese language proficiency test

  • But then he found out it had no spoken component and reasoned

  • It doesn't measure language scales to a good enough level to work for him

  • But he was still aiming for a B2+ on the CEFRL scale

  • This would mean that he would have been able to

  • Interact with a degree of fluency and spontaneity that makes regular interaction with native speakers quite possible. I think he got pretty close. So

  • Sumimasen me nihongo (Sorry is there anyone..)

  • Hanase Hito ga Imasuka (who can speak Japanese here?)

  • Okay, so I got a little sidetracked, where were we. Oh yes, why is Japanese hard?

  • Let's start with the Japanese writing systems. There are three writing systems: Hiragana, Katakana, and Kanji

  • Hiragana is not so bad. It has 46 base characters and the same can be said for Katakana

  • So that's 92 characters to learn versus the 26 in English. So it's only like three times as much. No biggie

  • And then there's Kanji. It's from China and they've gotten many thousands of these characters which are a bit more complicated

  • But you know what despite there being over 50,000 of them. There's a set called Jouyou Kanji, or regular Chinese characters

  • There are only number of 2136. It only takes the Japanese child until graduating high school to learn them all

  • But of course there's a hack for it. It only takes a smart person 97 days

  • Okay, so it's gotten a little bit shady here. So let me try being straight up for a bit

  • Japanese grammar is both difficult and not I'm told it makes much more sense than English grammar

  • But if you're already a fluent English speaker, Japanese grammar is all backwards

  • So if in English I wanted to say would you like to eat pizza in Japanese?

  • I would say "Anata wa Piza wo Tabetai Desuka"

  • Which is like "You Pizza eat". Except Japanese people wouldn't say that. My family would be more like "Piza Taberu?"

  • Which is "Pizza eat?" I admire the simplicity

  • But if it was a waiter asking me they would say

  • "Piza wa Ikaga Desuka?", which translates to "Pizza like to have?"

  • There's no "you" in the sentence because both you and the waiter know who he's talking to

  • So why say it but the "desuka" is that it

  • Because that's the polite way to do it and the waiter is below you. You see Japanese is very contextual

  • Meaning there's a lot of things you should just know and be aware of and you need to know how to say things

  • Honorific speech (Keigo) falls under three main categories: Sonkeigo (Respectful Language),

  • Kenjougo (Humble Language) and Teineigo (Polite Language). I know what you're thinking

  • What's the difference between respectful humble and polite language?

  • You got me, but if you want a crash course and feeling like you're set up to fail the subtleties of the Japanese language

  • Scroll through the Wikipedia page. Be my guest... be my guest... because you also learn about Teichougo (Courteous Language)

  • and Bikago (Word Beautification) and that's not to mention Tamego, which means same age language

  • Which is how kids would speak and how you talk to those close to you in life like friends and family

  • This is the type of language. I generally pick up because that's who I talk to most.

  • Shouko, Keiki wa Doudesuka? (How's the cake, Shouko?)

  • Oishii. (Delicious). Oishii honto? (oh really?)

  • So when talking with people outside the group I sound like an impolite

  • Disrespectful and egotistical child. Speaking of children by the time a kid is in elementary school

  • They know about 5000 words. No wonder why at 5, my niece trounced me at speaking Japanese

  • I probably knew half the word she did. Learning Japanese is two steps forward one step back

  • There are things in life where progress doesn't regress like running a marathon

  • When you're running even if you get tired and stopped to have a drink of water

  • You don't end up further from the finish line. You're merely standing still

  • in fact

  • once you're refreshed you'll have more ability to get to that finish line and

  • There are some skills that don't tend to go away

  • Even if you've learned it a long time ago

  • Like bike riding. You cannot ride a bike for a decade and be back in the saddle again in a matter of minutes

  • There are even some languages that you can get basic competency in within a matter of days like HTML which stands for hypertext markup language

  • Which you can use to display a basic website

  • But with the Japanese language if I stop studying for a month

  • I have to review a few previous chapters before I could start off where I left off. Bro, you're doing Japanese wrong

  • Despite all my talk about how hard it is to learn Japanese

  • The big elephant in the room is that I suck because I'm doing it wrong

  • Sure, you can wash greasy dishes with cold water and eventually get the job kind of done

  • But if I had used a drop of dawn, maybe my language problems would have been gone

  • I've made so many mistakes, but let me share a few with you today

  • I didn't properly learn Katakana and Hiragana right away. Those are the two basic Japanese writing systems. Remember?

  • It's like trying to read English without knowing what some of the letters in the alphabet are

  • Even though the Hiragana syllabary contains 46 monographs and pronunciation is straightforward as it's a phonetic lettering system

  • Unlike English: Ka-nite

  • Nigit. Nite.

  • There are also 21 digraphs 25 diacritics and 15 digraphs with diacritics

  • Now the thing is you can't get very far with only Hiragana and Katakana. You also need Kanji

  • Before I used to think why not get rid of the complicated Kanji and stick to a single writing system like Hiragana

  • The problem is that Japanese writing doesn't use spaces. So it's kind of like trying to read this sentence right now

  • It can be done, but it's kind of hard to read, isn't it?

  • This is what reading Hiragana and Katakana is like when you're not using Kanji. Very hard to read especially when your lack of vocabulary

  • Means you don't know where one word ends and the other starts

  • So yeah learning Kanji is necessary because it makes reading sentences without wanting to tear your eyes out possible

  • And of course, it's something I've avoided doing for way too long, unfortunately

  • Like English words Kanji can be read in multiple ways

  • Making Japanese super super hard Japanese is super hard. But like I like extreme sports

  • So I thought like let's make it super super hard

  • The best way I found was to avoid making mistakes

  • Especially when speaking and the best way to do that is to not speak at all

  • think about it: if you're gonna kick it up a notch on a difficulty scale not speaking a language is

  • Lit pro tip - another

  • Hundo P way to make language learning super super hard is to have a brain that's not wired to do so

  • French and English were my worst subjects in school. In fact, the only course I've ever failed in my entire life

  • Who is Japanese 102.

  • Whether what that study suggests will be scientifically proven

  • The fact is I don't generally enjoy studying languages whether it's English, French or Japanese

  • And anyone will tell you it's much harder learning something new when you'd rather be doing something else. Let me give you the down-low

  • despite everything I've said before my honest answer for why I still suck at Japanese is

  • Because I don't need to be good at it

  • It's not something I'm proud of. It's just more a matter of what my current reality is

  • I work from home and it's almost all in English

  • the most difficult thing I have to deal with in life in

  • Japanese is probably the government or the doctor and my wife can and does step in to help when needed

  • Raising bilingual kids is also non-intuitively a detriment to my learning (of) Japanese

  • I speak to them in English so that they could continue to learn the language

  • (Shin) I don't know to say it, but it's like if you want it to put on something on it.

  • That takes to potential language learning partners out of the equation for me

  • And then there's my wife you'd think she'd make a great Japanese language learning partner being a native

  • Japanese speaking person and all

  • But consider this I'm stuck at home all day all by my lonesome

  • I don't talk to anybody else and so my wife comes home and

  • I just want to connect really that's that's what I want to do

  • I want to connect and the easiest way for me to do that is in English and

  • That's what we default to. While pondering in my terrible Japanese given the number of years I've lived in Japan

  • I came up with a list of priorities and it was easy to find out why

  • Mine were,

  • Family, work, health, household duties, gotta cut that grease, kids English education, Japanese

  • but I still want to learn Japanese. I want to understand the country I call home better

  • I've tried many tools a lot of them. I'd recommend like japanesepod101.com

  • Genki books, Thai Kim's grammar guide, Onki SRS, NHK easy news and Rekaikun

  • I think they all work when used consistently

  • But my biggest problem has always been keeping track of my progress and knowing where to start when I fall in behind.

  • That and fear of failure. Out of all those things I've managed to stick to two. The first is Wanikani

  • It helps me recognize and pronounce Kanji. I use it because it keeps track of my progress

  • Teaches me in a structured way and I can do it anywhere at anytime as long as I have an internet connection

  • It doesn't teach you how to write Kanji, nor does it teach you how to spontaneously use the words in a conversation?

  • It's not some silver bullet

  • However, I can now read Kanji at the fourth grade level if I'm being generous with myself. - "Senior?"

  • Now, the second is Pimsleur Japanese

  • The main part of Pimsleur is the graduated interval recall of speaking Japanese or in other words

  • The program gets you to think and speak in Japanese in a matter that lets you remember stuff

  • (Machine and Greg) Kikoemasen deshita (I did not catch that)

  • (Machine) Your neighbor says, he said he'll be arriving at 330

  • (Greg and Machine) Sanji-han ni Tsuku to Iimashita (He says he'll arrive at 330)

  • What it's helping me with the most it's getting over my fear of speaking as it makes me do it over and over and over

  • (Machine) You say that the daughter lives in Kyoto?

  • (Greg and Machine) Musume wa Kyouto ni Sundeimasu (My daughter currently lives in Kyoto)

  • Even if I get it wrong half the time.

  • Sanjikan (no? / ni?) Tsuku to Iimashita

  • A tip I learned about Pimsleur is that they have their lessons on Audible because audible has the largest selection of audiobooks on the Planet

  • This let me fill my summer with learning Japanese like how I sled writing to mentioning audible

  • Which is the sponsor of this video.

  • Yeah, you can go to audible.com slash life form from our text live where I'm from to five hundred five hundred to get started

  • I've actually had an audible subscription for many years now and was quite excited that they would be my first video sponsor

  • Audible wants you to know that you can listen to them while doing summary things like running or enjoying a sunset by the beach.

  • I prefer listening to audible while doing dishes

  • But whatever floats your boat

  • Amazon Prime members can get audible for four ninety-five a month for the first three months

  • That's like getting three months for the price of one after that

  • It's only fourteen ninety-five a month this offer ends, July 31st, 2018

  • And so the interesting thing about the audible price is that with the Pimsleur Japanese audiobooks

  • It actually turns out to be cheaper to go through audible than directly through penslar

  • That's because the audible subscription lets you get any book for your monthly credit regardless of length or price

  • So go to audible.com slash life where I'm from or text life where I'm from - 500 500 - get started

  • Thanks for watching. See you next time. Bye. How's your language learning quest going?

Hello world, I'm still terrible at Japanese even though I've lived in Japan for five years

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日本に5年住んでも日本語が苦手な理由 (Why I Still Suck at Japanese After Living in Japan for 5 Years)

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    林宜悉 に公開 2021 年 01 月 14 日
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