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  • - Hi, I'm Saoirse Ronan, and I play Jo March.

  • - Hi, I'm Timothee, and I play Laurie.

  • - Hey, I'm Laura, and I play Marmee.

  • - And I'm Greta, and I wrote the screenplay,

  • and I directed this movie.

  • And this is "Notes on a Scene."

  • - [John] Sit down, Laurie.

  • Latin is a privilege.

  • Please, you have to learn this,

  • I can't afford to lose this position.

  • Just return to the Cicero--

  • - [Laurie] There's a girl out there.

  • - No, there is not.

  • - Yes, Mr. Brooke, there is a girl.

  • - [John] No, there is not.

  • [indistinct talking]

  • Oh, there is a girl.

  • - That's a girl.

  • - So, this is in Theodore Laurence,

  • Laurie Laurence's house with his tutor John Brooke,

  • and Timothee came up with this idea

  • that he would be standing on a chair,

  • and it was a good idea, it was funny.

  • We wanted the Laurence house to be very grand

  • and masculine and not cozy,

  • but it was actually an interesting thing

  • because the way that we structured the movie,

  • we start in adulthood, and that's one timeline,

  • and childhood is another timeline.

  • I wanted childhood to have this golden glow,

  • so we shot with a very specific filter.

  • And it kind of worked against

  • the coldness of the Laurence house,

  • because it still had the golden glow of childhood.

  • But, so what we wanted to do was give it scale and density

  • that would kind of impart that same coldness

  • without actually having cold color,

  • because we wanted to save that for the adult section.

  • [window scraping]

  • - Hello there, are you hurt?

  • - I'm Amy.

  • - Hello Amy, I'm Laurie.

  • - I know, you brought my sister back after the dance.

  • I would've never have sprained my ankle.

  • I have lovely small feet, the best in the family,

  • but I can never go home again 'cause I'm in such trouble.

  • [sobbing] Look!

  • Mr. Davis hit me.

  • - Amy is fleeing because she's been hit by her teacher

  • and she knows she's gonna be in trouble.

  • So she's running over to this house

  • because she doesn't wanna go home.

  • And she's very sad.

  • - I was there when you shot that scene.

  • - Oh yeah.

  • - And she did it 20 times, like one after the other,

  • it was amazing, and every single time, it was hilarious.

  • And she just made it bigger and bigger every single time.

  • - Yeah, I like in actors in general,

  • and Florence in particular, I like actors who can go

  • almost too big. - Yeah.

  • - I find it really fun, because I find then,

  • I always, I want the thing either right before

  • or right after the one that's pushed too far.

  • But you kind of have to fling that way

  • to get the thing that's interesting.

  • [gasping]

  • - Tell the servants I want this painting

  • purchased for me immediately.

  • - [Jo] Amy? - [Meg] Amy, you in here?

  • - Meg! My hand, look.

  • - Jo. - What richness!

  • - It hurts so much.

  • - Oh, Theodore Laurence,

  • you ought to be the happiest boy in the world.

  • - Oh, a fellow can't live on books alone.

  • - I could. What did you do?

  • - Nothing, I did nothing.

  • I did a drawing, and then Mr. Davis hit me.

  • - This is one of those scenes where I have

  • almost everyone in the room at once,

  • and here they all start to enter.

  • And this just sounds really boring to say because obviously,

  • I'm very proud of how this scene was blocked.

  • It's actually really hard - Should be.

  • - to block scenes with this many people,

  • and figure out all of the ways that they're moving.

  • And I could only do it because they memorized their lines

  • so precisely that it was like a,

  • it was one of those scenes that was

  • like a hot potato hand-off.

  • - We rehearsed all of these

  • overlapping sayings a lot in rehearsals,

  • but then also with this one in particular, I remember,

  • it was a new location for all of us.

  • We were used to being in the March house, which was smaller.

  • We kinda knew our way around it.

  • So this was our first time shooting

  • on this location, all of us together.

  • - And I think that familiarity with the setting,

  • or unfamiliarity with the setting,

  • is important 'cause we knew that March house so well

  • by the second week of shooting or before.

  • And that one, it felt as austere,

  • maybe that's not the right word,

  • but as, you know, everything Greta was communicating before.

  • It felt properly anonymous.

  • - Christopher Columbus, look at that.

  • - That's my grandfather.

  • Are you scared of him?

  • - No, I'm not scared of anyone.

  • He looks stern, but my grandfather was much more handsome.

  • - Jo, we do not compare grandfathers.

  • - Laura enters just there and has her line just there,

  • and it was this timing of getting everyone

  • to kind of be exactly where we needed them to be.

  • And I remember [laughs] this was, my partner Noah,

  • Noah Baumbach always said this was his favorite line.

  • - [Greta and Laura] Jo, we do not compare grandfathers.

  • - It was, for him, it killed him.

  • He saw that in the cut and he was like, "It's hilarious."

  • - You think he's more handsome, eh?

  • - Oh, no, actually you are very handsome.

  • I didn't mean-- - I knew your mother's father.

  • You've got his spirit.

  • - Oh, well, thank you, sir. [chuckles]

  • - I'm saying this as an outsider

  • who was not part of "Lady Bird," how,

  • no wonder she brought these two actors together,

  • because watching the two of you on screen together,

  • or watching you both act, it's like you're,

  • you just hurl every cell out.

  • I mean it's just so beautiful. - So do you!

  • - I know. - So do you.

  • - It's so gorgeous to watch. - Look!

  • - I like people who leave it all on the floor.

  • - Yeah, so beautiful.

  • - You are not to attend that school anymore.

  • - Good, that man has always been an idiot.

  • - [Marmee] Jo will teach you.

  • - Me? I already teach Beth.

  • - You're a good teacher.

  • - Yes, women being taught at home is

  • much more proper, I believe.

  • - Only because the schools for women are so poor.

  • - Indeed, quite right.

  • - I wish all the girls would leave

  • his horrible school and that he would die.

  • - [Marmee] Amy, you did wrong,

  • and there will be consequences.

  • - I didn't, I didn't even do anything, I just did a drawing.

  • - Thank you so much for taking care of

  • our Amy. - Yes, of course.

  • - [Meg] Amy, don't wish death on anybody.

  • - My girls have a way of getting into mischief.

  • - Mm-hmm, so do I.

  • - Well, then you'll run over, and we'll take care of you.

  • - Please, and come over whenever you'd like.

  • Invite your sister Beth as well.

  • - We blocked it and rehearsed it sort of like a dance

  • for, I would say, an hour on and off.

  • And then we went away, they set up the whole thing,

  • and then we came in and shot for the whole day.

  • - Well, what's particularly amazing,

  • as we're watching here, is as she's defining the movement,

  • this dance for this part of the film, every single moment,

  • every move comes with a new dynamic of

  • a different relationship. - Yeah, yeah, that's right,

  • that's right. - Yes, yeah.

  • - So, for example, here Timmy and I are establishing

  • this maternal nature that's being presented to him

  • that he doesn't have in his life.

  • You have John Brooke and Meg's sort of first flirtations,

  • you and the girls are dealing with Amy's

  • sort of petuousness and her stuff, their dynamic.

  • Chris, who's sort of a lovely sort of paternal figure

  • in a way to all of us, and even me,

  • as someone who has, - Yes, yes.

  • - the man who has left the home,

  • but he is this neighbor overseeing us all,

  • so that was an amazing thing.

  • We were having to pay service to

  • about 20 different dynamics.

  • - That's true, and it was this kind of like

  • everyone's noticing a different thing,

  • so Laurie's in love with Jo, Jo's in love with books,

  • she's mad and annoyed at Amy.

  • Meg is sympathizing with Amy, but Meg's also noticing John.

  • John is really noticing Meg, it like,

  • all of these dynamics that keep shifting and kind of

  • being inside of the emotionality of each character

  • as they're moving around each other,

  • it's a trick of not just where are you putting the camera,

  • it's where are you putting your emotion with everyone,

  • because what you want to feel at the end of it is

  • that you were in the room and you felt

  • everything that everyone was feeling.

  • - And I love your filmmaking in this scene,

  • because it's like you never let the camera

  • totally be at rest with it.

  • Life is messy, you feel all these things,

  • but it's not suddenly the director's choice to go,

  • "Hey guys, notice this moment;

  • "it will be important later!"

  • It's just so fluid which is gorgeous.

  • - I like things that kind of

  • pass you by. - It's very quick.

  • Yes, Beth would adore the piano.

  • - Is she the quiet one?

  • - Yes. - Yes, that's our Beth.

  • - Well tell the little girl to use our piano.

  • - And you'll borrow whatever book you'd like.

  • - Can I come look at the paintings?

  • - Yes. - There's also

  • a lovely greenhouse.

  • - We must go, girls.

  • [girls chattering] - I'm going to take this.

  • I'm gonna take this one if that's okay.

  • [girls talking over each other]

  • - Thank you! - Bye!

  • [chattering dies out]

  • - Oh, Miss Meg, you forgot your glove.

  • - Well, back to work.

  • - So this dynamic of this whirlwind of people

  • coming into the house and this excitement,

  • and then they're leaving and they're talking

  • the entire way out, what's happening in the end is

  • just these men standing around.

  • That's like my experience of my father and brother.

  • It's just my mom and my sister and I leave,

  • and they're like [makes funny noise].

  • [laughing]

  • And I love that about them.

  • And right after that, Timothee,

  • you do something that I couldn't put on screen.

  • - Really, really? - Yeah,

  • the minute I cut off, like literally to the frame,

  • right after that, you go [makes funny noise].

  • [laughing]

  • - It was a choice! No, I'm kidding.

  • - So I was like, Nick, do we have one more frame?

  • And he was like, "Nope."

  • - Wait, you said "one more frame" to the editor?

  • - Yeah, and it was like, is there

  • one more frame? - Oh god, sorry.

  • - No, no, it's great, - You could've froze me?

  • - it's great, I could've froze you [laughs].

  • - Correct me if I'm mistaken, this is the vest that's,

  • that's like the one I wear the most.

  • - This is the one you wear the most.

  • We have a bunch of vests that, actually,

  • Saoirse ends up wearing at different point--

  • They end up switching vests the whole movie,

  • because they were, you know,

  • their androgynous other half, which is something that

  • Jacqueline invented with the two of them.

  • And then you would always take your jackets off

  • because you liked your billowy sleeves.

  • - Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure why.

  • - You didn't wanna be encumbered by a jacket.

  • - The costumes are Jacqueline Durran,

  • she's an incredible costume designer, and

  • I don't know, I find that you work with

  • someone who's an excellent head of a department

  • in movies, or I guess just in life,

  • and then you realize like how good people can be

  • at that job, kind of thing, and ego-less.

  • - She's a very emotional costume designer.

  • She always comes at it from an emotional angle,

  • and I've been working with her since I was like 12.

  • - That's right [whispers].

  • - Oh really? - That's true.

  • - Yeah, on "Atonement" - She did "Atonement".

  • - and "Hanna", I knew this.

  • And for me, it was very helpful to know that

  • the other girls had to wear a corset and I didn't,

  • and I, and Jo chooses not to wear a hoop

  • or sometimes even an underskirt.

  • And so with the result, she just had this

  • freedom of movement and fluidity,

  • and I could, you know, walk like a boy

  • and I could slouch and I could, you know,

  • do the Laura Dern [laughs] hand move.

  • So yeah, that all helped.

  • Color is always something that's very important,

  • like everybody has their color.

  • - Amy has her blue skirt, which is her color.

  • Saoirse, as Jo, has this red cape,

  • and Emma, as Meg, always has green,

  • and they have these specific colors.

  • And this is, I mean this is hyper nerdy, but

  • this green scarf that Emma's wearing,

  • I remember the first time Jacqueline showed it to me

  • and I thought, "That is too bright,

  • "that feels like chartreuse,"

  • and she said, "No, no, no.

  • "In the 1850s, they had just figured out

  • "how to dye fabrics really outrageous colors."

  • And we think of the past as being monochromatic

  • because all of the photographs are sepia,

  • but actually they were dying their ballgowns

  • bright orange or bright yellow and bright, you know,

  • these really bright, electric colors.

  • And so this woven scarf which she had made

  • is actually with the dye that they would've had at the time.

  • And then the other beautiful thing that I'm gonna point out

  • is Laura's colors, which is a little dimmer here,

  • but all of Laura's costumes weave the colors

  • of the four girls in her costumes,

  • because she is all of them in one.

  • And different parts of her spirit went into each girl,

  • and the same was true of her hair,

  • that she had little pieces of each of them in her hair.

  • And it was just those kinds of details of character

  • that to me, it's like what helps me

  • believe in this world that we're making.

  • And also, I make movies that I want,

  • I hope some nerdy lady will watch it 20 times

  • and pick up on all this stuff,

  • and I want them to have lots of goodies, anyway.

  • I tried to keep things together as much as possible,

  • but there was no way, with the schedule, with the--

  • We were doing four seasons, 10 years, eight plot lines.

  • And there was no way to keep all of those in order.

  • We did shoot the end at the end.

  • - On schedule. - On schedule, mm-hmm.

  • - No re-shoots. - No re-shoots.

  • But it was, they had to keep

  • all of these things in their mind,

  • so they always had to know where they were,

  • because we were flipping back and forth much more.

  • I wish it was the 70s when we could just be like,

  • "See you in springtime."

  • [laughing] - Yeah.

  • - I'm just gonna go to Big Sur and work on my pottery.

  • [laughing]

  • - Wait, who inspired that?

  • - It's Richard Burton. - Okay.

  • - There's like a weird-- - Really?

  • - Yeah, there's like a weird-- - He did pottery?

  • - There's a Richard Burton, Elizabeth Taylor documentary

  • about that movie they did in Big Sur,

  • and he's like, "Just drink a jug of wine

  • "and work on your pottery."

  • - Anyway. - That is you!

  • [talking over each other]

  • - I just pictured like "Ghost",

  • like the scene from "Ghost" and Richard Burton's just...

  • - And you could just see Elizabeth Tyler like,

  • "Richard? Richard!" - That's where I painted.

  • - Could we do the scene

  • from "Ghost"? - "Richard, you bastard!"

  • [laughing]

  • - Well, back to work.

- Hi, I'm Saoirse Ronan, and I play Jo March.

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