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  • the show.

  • It's about like representing agent identities and all that.

  • I'm like dope, and that's I get there like 7 30 and I walk in and I'm like, Okay, I know all these kids.

  • I mean, they're, like, 20 or something, but like I know them, I grew up with these kids, you know, like Abigail's and critique.

  • So what if I don't know these guys and immediately my comic hat Turns out I'm like, Okay, the show itself, the energies dope.

  • But the show, like, acoustically I'm looking OK.

  • Is the high ceiling, the lighting shit.

  • It's not set up for, like, a comedy event, but I still think Okay, this is gonna go well.

  • 8 38 45 Get on stage.

  • Um, and I'm like I do some Columbia stuff because I went to Colombia for, like, a summer program.

  • I start making fun of the kids a bit, and I say, Do I have to give, like, a trigger warning?

  • Almost like joking.

  • Like to have to give a trigger warning, cause I know, you know, that's a thing.

  • And I say, like, be careful.

  • Some of this might be sexist.

  • Some of this might be racist, you know, just buckle up.

  • And one girl booze and like, you're booing already.

  • It's, like two minutes in, and I'm like, Well, look, this is my lyrics.

  • I just listened to the set on the way here, and I said, Ah, well, buckle up, you know, because this is the real world or whatever.

  • And then I go into material and about, and it's going well, this is one story I want to dispel.

  • Like it.

  • I will fully own a bomb.

  • If I'm bombing.

  • I know embalming.

  • I will tell you have bombed before a 1,000,000,000 times.

  • I'm doing fine.

  • 60 70% of the set.

  • 17 minutes in.

  • I tell the joke where I say effectively, you know, I don't think being gay is a choice, which is I don't think it is at all.

  • But this is how you know, because there's gay black people and no one's gonna choose to be gay if they're already black, right?

  • No one's doubling down on hardship for Joe.

  • Thank you.

  • Know no one's a funny joke.

  • Thank you.

  • No one like no black dude ever wakes up and thinks you know what?

  • This black shit too easy.

  • I'm a put on the Madonna halter top and some Jordan's and tell the Indian do how to live his life.

  • That's not a choice that's you born that way and that it bombs like this silence really complete silence.

  • And then I say, uh, you're exactly who I expected to be as a crowd.

  • And then I say, Uh um, the only person that chooses this is also what wasn't print.

  • Is that the offensive part to me?

  • What I think is offensive is the next part where I say the only person that chooses whether or not to be gay in a daily basis is Mike Pence, right?

  • We can all agree that I don't know if he's getting up, but no man hates homosexuals that much.

  • If he himself is not a homosexual, he chooses not to be gay every day.

  • And that gets some laughs and applause.

  • And I'm like, Okay, cool.

  • And then, ah, get back into it.

  • I'm rolling for another two or three minutes.

  • Um, I start talkinto.

  • Some do a joke about how my dad landed in Newark when he immigrate to America.

  • Some girls from Newark, she interrupts, has stopped talking for, like, two minutes, and that goes terribly.

  • It's just like I'm tryingto going fishing with her, just trying to see if I can get back into it.

  • Is she interrupting?

  • I say Hack ling, or is she?

  • I say, I say a joke.

  • My dad landed in Newark back when he landed.

  • It was called Brick City because of you hits.

  • If you looked at someone wrong, did hit you with a brick, right?

  • Fine, kind of throw away line.

  • This goes.

  • That's not true.

  • Well, yeah, like obviously I'm just I'm just kidding.

  • But like, I know where she is, what she's trying to do.

  • I'm just trying to talk to her and I'm going trying to talk about, like, trying to get back into material.

  • Um, and that's, like probably minute 20 or something.

  • And then out of my corner, my left eye.

  • I see the three girls that invited me to do the show initially in May or June, like gather on like that's kind of strange.

  • I still talk to this girl for, like, another 30 seconds, and then as I'm concluding my talking to her because I realized that's not gonna go anywhere they come on stage with microphones in, like, one trench coat, and they're just like like like, it's time for the literally to say, there's been a change.

  • Thank you to match has been a change in program.

  • Um, you know, we've received from comments from members.

  • You know, we think that's enough.

  • How did you balance stage for 20 something minutes at this point?

  • And it was one joke that did it.

  • So that s so I go, I'm like, I'm first.

  • I'm like, I'm not even mad at this point.

  • I'm just, like, in shock.

  • I'm like, this is like an episode of impractical jokers isn't like, What are you talking about?

  • I have 45 minutes left, um, gob slated to do an hour and like, really witty and they say, Yeah, there's been comments like people are upset or were offended, and I'm like, I feel like we're having a good time and had some of the crowd cheers.

  • And then I'm like, Why do I got to go?

  • And when the girls goes, the tech has to leave.

  • I look at the tag, Has this all on YouTube, like someone put the view to video of this particular part, and I go, they better be leaving because I could see I could see the tech people look at him like you got a bastard and attack people.

  • Meaning the people that are coordinating the electronica.

  • Yeah, the type cast the show.

  • Exactly.

  • Whoever's running out of time, I don't need tech.

  • I'm not fucking pyro.

  • Tech has to go.

  • Tech people have been coming up with lies.

  • I understand why she lied because she's trying to save face and not like, try not to embarrass me or whatever, but I'm like, I'm not gonna believe that shit.

  • That offer you came out to be like the tech.

  • And then I go, um is it because the tech has to leave or because I'm saying some things that made people uncomfortable and one of the other girls goes, Does it?

  • We think there's a distinction between being uncomfortable on being disrespectful, and I'm like, don't use your big words, Okay?

  • But But in my brain, I'm like, Why?

  • What are you talking about?

  • Like I don't think I've been disrespectful at all.

  • And there are some people who are like, What the fuck is going on majority of people like what the fuck is going on?

  • And but, like, there's a pocket of the crowd where the three ah Asian American alliance leaders and like the rest of the sort of crew, was like waiting.

  • And I think some of them cheer when there's a distinction between disrespect from being uncomfortable in, like what he taught hadn't been disrespectful and the slightest What are you talking about?

  • And then one girl goes, we think you're not entitled to be making some of the jokes are making Oh, my, my, my trigger words entitled, You know, like I'm thinking.

  • And at this point, I'm like I'm too almost in shock deer in headlights, kind of like even processed anger.

  • I'm just like now I'm just aren't assessed what they're specifically saying, Like which joke specifically.

  • And they're like we think that gay in black joke, um, is particularly offensive.

  • Whatever and I'm like.

  • And then at this point, I'm like, instead of explaining that the joke is quite progressive, I'm like I literally got that joke from an audience member at Stand Up New York in like 2011.

  • Like I remember the conversation distinctly because It was such like one of these sort of oh shit, that's a good bit moment.

  • And I tell them that.

  • And they were like, You got it talking to a guy in the crowd.

  • So I was on stage and I used to live in Hell's Kitchen in New York, and I'm like that there's like a gay black constituency that would always like, make fun of me when I was leaving my apartment.

  • But like like ribbing, you know what I mean?

  • And so, like, I'm time trying to talk about that on stage a stand of New York doing like a cheque spot or whatever, and I'm talking to the crowd.

  • And then there's a gay black guy that, like, heckled me and I start talking to him.

  • And then at some point, I'm like, This is how you know being gay can't be a choice, right?

  • And he's he starts dying, and we have, like, a good report.

  • I'm like, Oh, perfect, This is a great bit.

  • I just got it right.

  • And so I tell them that, and they're like, No, you know, it's been changed.

  • You like you have to go and I'm like effectively.

  • I'm like like you're wrong.

  • For what?

  • Doing what you're doing right now.

  • I'm I'm I'm a generational than you guys.

  • Ah, I know comedy better than anybody in this room.

  • That's for goddamn sure.

  • And I no disrespect.

  • And I've been through a lot of shit, like, I know that what I'm saying right now hasn't been offensive in the slightest.

  • And I said, you can't isolate yourself from the real world like this.

  • What you gonna do when?

  • When some real bad shit happens in the world.

  • Like if someone actually does something that's offensive.

  • But you can't handle things this way.

  • If you silence someone, that's not that's not progress or whatever and then asked me if I have closing remarks.

  • Well, have closing them are closing remarks and underprepared.

  • So that was just hard to come about closing on March.

  • I don't know.

  • On the spot, I tried to save it.

  • I tried to save it with a bit, you know, And if I can bond, uh, I'm like, all right.

  • And I just I'm like and still talking.

  • And then they cut my mike, and I'm really I'm like, really, really you come out and then I'm like, All right, Thank you.

  • But the mike down and I bounce.

  • And then they tried it.

  • Then they won't even let me talk to them backstage, like 11 Members like, we gotta escort you out.

  • Like escort me.

  • I'm six foot one Indian, dude, like, I don't need escort from you tiny person like I'll be fine.

  • I'm not here to fight anybody.

  • Even I was This is this is not the movies.

  • So are they escorting you out because they want to kick you out?

  • Are they worried about your safety?

  • No.

  • They want to escort me out because they want to take me out.

  • Right?

  • Right, right.

  • And so I go to, um I have a camera crew there because I'm trying to film every hour that I do, and I go to them and I'm like, What?

  • What if you watch a YouTube clip, I'm like, on stage like look at them and I go to them.

  • I'm like, and then some of the members from the alliance tryto talk to me, like, ever so sorry that that happened, like, you know, that's not all of us that we don't know what just happened and I'm in my head.

  • I'm like thinking so much for the alliance, part of this whole thing, right?

  • Like I thought were same people in flesh if we come from the same place, so there's no other jokes they found offensive, that was the only one.

  • That's what they said.

  • There's there's there's, like, two or three things that said like articles which I made the mistake of just reading everything like, Don't ever do that fucking justify read everything like this two or three articles that say that I was badgering Ah, two people in the crowd And there's like one girl who, like maybe two or three minutes in, like I talked to her for crowd work like I asked where she from what you're doing, Whatever.

  • And that she she gets up like she stands like shells herself off to the crowd.

  • I make fun of her for a little bit, and then this other girl, the one the Newark chick that is like we get personal because she reveals that you know your father is not in her life with the conversation.

  • Just gets awkward.

  • It's not.

  • She revealed that her father is not in her.

  • She was I'm talking about.

  • I'm talking to her.

  • Like, um, what do your parents do or whatever I should also like, I don't know what my dad doesn't make What you mean he's like, Oh, I don't know him like, Oh, you, But you don't know he's not in your life or whatever.

  • He doesn't she like, Yeah, I was like, Okay, I can sense that.

  • She's uncomfortable now to the point where I asked her I was like, Are you uncomfortable?

  • And she said, No, I'm like, Okay, cool.

  • I could, like, make this worse and And I'm like, but I won't.

  • You seem like a nice person.

  • That's when they came out.

  • But the people are apologizing to me, and I'm like, I'm now on mad now.

  • I'm like, once I leave the stage, I'm now I'm livid, but I'm I know myself well enough to be like, I'm not gonna talk to anybody if I'm angry, because I'll just say some wild shit like I don't I could've Bill Bird, Philadelphia, the whole thing, you know?

  • I mean, just just went off on all these people for 10 minutes, but what the fuck is wrong with you.

  • But I just went.

  • I was like, I gotta go.

  • Like, I'm out, took my crew, and we just We just walked straight out of this fucking giant hall and and then, like I'm waiting for my car and people from the show.

  • Or like like apologizing.

  • Not like just audience members.

  • Yeah, we're so sorry.

  • We know that was fucked out.

  • That should have happened.

  • You were doing great.

  • Whatever.

  • And then, like, ah ah, getting my uber to my next at much after this, I have to do another hour.

  • Another show?

  • Where?

  • Where you going next?

  • UCB east and lower East Side from from Colombia to lower sites like authority.

  • 40 minute, right.

  • And what happened?

  • A car.

  • And, like, I'm like, first my text.

  • My agent, like this just happened.

  • And he's like, do not say shit until you get paid.

  • I'm like, that's probably the right move.

  • Uh, because I'm about to just fucking instagram some.

  • Like that's a real agent.

  • The's a man attacked the shekel.

  • Yeah.

  • Do not say shit until you get paid.

  • I'm like, you're right, man, and I'm just like, in my head, like mad listeningto like Drake just like I got a lead Enemies that I'm just, like, fucking everything that I think is wrong that we here as like a narrative of, like, kids have solved all this kind of shit is playing.

  • Yes, that's what it is like.

  • And I'm thankful that my crew was there because I'm toe inventing to them because if they weren't that, I'll be on some other shit.

  • But as I'm checking my instagram because I'm like, this is definitely gonna be a fucking story on Instagram.

  • At the very least, I'm like people a d m ing me from the show again.

  • We're so sorry that that happened.

  • That's so fucked up.

  • People e mailing me the same shit I'm like, Does anybody saying fuck You shouldn't have been there in the first place?

  • No.

  • No one said that to me at one girl who was the sweet mate of ah, one of the organizers D m.

  • And just, like, yelled at me.

  • Basically, I just ever I wrote to her Thank you for your support, like, you know, just like that she say.

  • She said on the final doom I d.

  • M's just blew up.

  • Uh, This is Twitter, Instagram instagram And she I have my instagrams out up like, deleted from my phone, but she was affected.

  • Needed it from your phone.

  • I don't check in the morning and I deleted on that.

  • Check it at night, and I deleted again.

  • Really?

  • I just fucking hate.

  • So what now is that SNL worked on update?

  • Um And so, like, I was constantly on my phone or on Twitter on his head, just like checking news reading shit and like it it annoy the shit out of me.

  • I hate the news.

  • Lo and behold, I am the news now for a bit, but I got fucking I ate the news.

  • It's all bullshit.

  • And like being in this cycle, right has confirmed my belief that it's all fucking nonsense.

  • But she effectively says, um, uh, I hope you learned your lesson of respecting what you were hired to do and respecting strong young women.

  • Check your fucking ego.

  • And I was just I was I was like, I took all of me not like, just eviscerated because I'm like, I'm good with that.

  • I'm not good.

  • A lot of things, but Aiken Aiken eviscerates somebody in an instagram gm.

  • Um, and so I didn't say shit to her.

  • Besides, thank you for support, but all these people are messaging me, like, you know, we're so sorry that fucking happened.

  • And like, I'm like, all right, I'm not totally fucked with all these kids.

  • And I go to this show used to be east.

  • And, like, I'm taping the out an hour so I can't even process what just happened, cause my instinct is just talk about this immediately.

  • But I can't because I have to tape this hour, and so I get off stage.

  • I mean, the other goes well.

  • And as I'm leaving, you see, be east.

  • Three kids that were at the show at Columbia had come down from Colombia and followed me to use the beast, and they came up to me apologize in person.

  • We're so sorry that happened.

  • Like we love your set like we don't know what the fuck is going on.

  • And that took me that gave me, like, a beat, Toby, like all right, you know, like maybe maybe everyone isn't this way.

  • Make it says the people that have the fucking bullhorn that get to just say whatever the fuck they want and silence people that are like the minority.

  • But they're like the the vocal minority.

  • Where is, like all these people that are, like, actually on my squad are not as vocals they can be.

  • They're more like, quiet and apologize in person.

  • And so the next day, um, I don't think anything about it, but like the Columbia newspaper hits me up like I get off Leave Colombia at 9 30 The Columbia newspaper his me up at 10:05 p.m. like how did you have any comment?

  • Like comment?

  • I'm hungry.

  • You?

  • How's that for a comment like, I don't know What I'm not gonna talk to you right now.

  • Let me fucking process what's going on the next day.

  • I'm still thinking about it, but I'm going down to open for Aziz in Atlantic City and, uh, open for him, and I'm telling this story and he he immediately hits on the fact that it's crazy that these kids came up to you and apologize.

  • And I'm like, I don't even think about how insane that is because I'm still mad.

  • But I'm thinking I'm talking these kids like I'm talking disease and just like that is kind of crazy because it's so easy to buy into this shit that everyone is a fucking soft motherfucker.

  • And then I think about it some more and that I think about, like all the gigs I've done college wise before.

  • Like in the past year, I've been lucky to know I did like Texas of their school in Alaska, their school in Ohio to school in Maryland.

  • And I said much Maur offensive shit like anti Trump shit in the fucking readiness of states.

  • And it's all been fine, you know, like I've never been kicked off stage before.

  • And so to me, like this Columbia incident, even the students there seemed like the exception rather than the rule of like, everyone's a soft person, you know?

  • I mean, does that make sense?

  • It doesn't make sense.

  • But what I think is is young kids in particular that are in a position of power, right there, running something.

  • They have this idea of how people should behave that they want in their head.

  • And when you don't fit that that mold, then they just decide to be outraged.

  • Yeah, that's what happened here.

  • You don't get the context of what he said.

  • First of all, you're a comedian, right?

  • You're obviously a guy with jokes about shit, right?

  • So that's not a you're not saying anything negative about black people have about gay people.

  • You're essentially admitting that it's a hardship.

  • I mean, we all agree that black people experience racism and gay people experience homophobia.

  • Everybody agrees that so that makes perfect sense.

  • And it's funny.

  • Thank you mean it's It's It's stupid.

  • What they're doing is stupid, but that's normal, man.

  • Dude, that's been going on forever.

  • I stopped doing college is a long time ago, like the early two thousands.

  • I did a college in Florida, and I remember thinking that they don't know enough like this is not fun.

  • But the only reason why I would do this is for money, because colleges pay a lot of money.

  • Yeah, but they don't know enough there.

  • I mean, they should if they very 18 year old kids and get to a club that has an 18 year old limit.

  • We couldn't get in at 18 they should do that, and then they'll be with other 30 year olds and people with life I don't want.

  • I don't wantto perform at the whim of Children, and that's what these are.

  • These are Children who are engaging in recreational outrage.

  • They're deciding to be outraged.

  • Yet that's what it felt like with with them.

  • Particularly, it felt like like I grew up fine.

  • I grew up.

  • I grew up rich, but my parents had some money for a bit before things went nor like your average middle class people.

  • But like, to me, it's like I've been through some life.

  • And so I know when people who haven't been through life get upset about you.

  • It's always like the thing with Texas and Ohio in Alaska is like He's like the kids of blue collar people, people who have been through some shit and maybe not even just blue collar.

  • But people have been through some kind of life for a life experience where they know that things aren't just like words can hurt.

  • But for the most part they're fine.

  • It's like when, like your fucking dad loses his job well, it's also is the intent of what you're trying to dio.

  • Yeah, what are you trying to do?

  • you try to get laughs.

  • You two, you're telling jokes and try to get laughs.

  • That's what you're fucking hired.

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