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  • -Did you have a good Mother's Day?

  • -Yeah, it was great.

  • Yeah, I had a family brunch yesterday.

  • Mom's actually right here.

  • -She's at the show today? -Where is she? Yeah.

  • -Is that right? -There she is.

  • -Hey, there's your mom. Hi, mom!

  • Hi, mom. Aww. She's beautiful. Oh, great.

  • Is mom from -- Where's mom from?

  • -She grew up in Southern Indiana and then all around the country.

  • Her dad was in the Army, so she's from

  • a little bit of everywhere, but settled in South Bend

  • about 40 years ago with my dad,

  • and I came on the scene pretty soon after that.

  • -Yeah, exactly.

  • You've been busy this past week.

  • You got insulted by the President of the United States.

  • -Yeah. That's how you know you've made it.

  • -Yeah. Absolutely.

  • He compared you -- He called you Alfred E. Neuman.

  • -Yeah. What do you think?

  • -The President of the United States called you that.

  • Wow. What goes through your mind when that happens.

  • -You know, we talk a lot about elevating the dialogue,

  • so I guess the fact that I inspired him

  • to make a literary reference possibly for the first time...

  • [ Cheers and applause ] ♪♪

  • -Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Not bad.

  • Everyone is talking about your age and how young you are.

  • You're 37 years old. -Yeah.

  • -But you were mayor at when? 29?

  • -Yeah, I was 29 when I got elected,

  • so it's my eighth year now.

  • -Wow! And when you -- This is a dumb question,

  • but when you're the mayor, do you give out

  • keys to the city and stuff still?

  • -Oh, yeah. Yeah.

  • It's one of your most important ceremonial duties.

  • -They still do that?

  • -Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah, it's nice.

  • It's kind of gold plated or at least it looks like it.

  • -Is there anyone famous you've ever given the key to?

  • -Yeah. Well, one of the first ones I did

  • was for Jerry Seinfeld, but I had to trick him

  • into accepting it.

  • -He didn't want it? -Yeah, yeah.

  • So, I found out he was coming to South Bend.

  • He was performing at our Morris Civic Auditorium.

  • It's this beautiful theater we have in South Bend.

  • And I thought, "This is a major American cultural figure.

  • I'm a new mayor."

  • I'm like, "I'd better give him a key to the city."

  • So we had it made up.

  • I had a little plaque.

  • It said, "Thanks for all the laughs, Jerry," you know.

  • And we said to his team, "You know, it's cool if he

  • wants to do a low-key backstage thing.

  • That's fine. However Jerry wants to do it."

  • For me to give him the key.

  • And then the day the event rolls around,

  • and we haven't heard back.

  • And, finally, they say, "Oh, no. He doesn't want to do it.

  • You know, it's an election year.

  • He doesn't do anything political."

  • -Jerry Seinfeld said no to the key to the city?

  • -Yeah. So, then I went back to the office

  • and I checked with our secretary,

  • who had been there for like 15 years.

  • I was like, "Is there any record of someone

  • ever refusing a key to the city?"

  • -This is such an episode of "Seinfeld."

  • [ As Seinfeld ] He's like,

  • "I don't want the key to the city.

  • I don't want to able to get in. I want to be locked out.

  • I want to be locked out of the city.

  • I don't want to be in. You keep the key."

  • -Yeah, but now it's like a crisis of civic prestige, right?

  • Because I don't want to be the first mayor ever

  • to have the key to the city refused.

  • And I'll be dammed if Jerry Seinfeld

  • is going to do that to me, right?

  • So I'm thinking, "All right, what do we do?

  • What do we do?"

  • And I got a ticket to the show. I had the key with me.

  • Got there, got a nice seat close to the front.

  • He gave this great stand-up. His stand-up is fantastic.

  • -Oh, he's one of the best.

  • -And at the end, there's a -- You know, people loved it,

  • so he comes back out, but there's no encore.

  • He just started taking questions.

  • The first question is like -- I don't know --

  • You know, "What was Kramer like off the set?" or whatever.

  • And then I thought, "Now is my chance."

  • So I wave my hand real high, and he calls on me.

  • And my question, of course, was,

  • "Will you accept the key to the city?"

  • [ Cheers and applause ] -Yes!

  • This guy gets it done. He can't say no, right?

  • -No. He's like, "What's that? The key to the city?"

  • And then, I think by the time he said that, I was up there.

  • They couldn't stop me, 'cause it was a city facility.

  • Gave him the key, gave a wave, got out of there.

  • Nobody refuses a key to the city.

  • -No, exactly right. Don't mess with this guy.

  • -You're very proud about your time in the military.

  • You spent some time in Afghanistan.

  • Is this -- What's -- -Oh, yeah.

  • -This is -- What year is this? -That was 2014.

  • -And do you remember this scene?

  • -Yeah, that was probably the best day of my deployment.

  • So, one of the side projects we did --

  • I was stationed in Kabul,

  • but I worked with the chaplain's office.

  • People kept sending humanitarian goods,

  • and so they needed people who were qualified on a rifle,

  • 'cause you had to have that qualification

  • for some of us to take a vehicle outside the wire

  • in order to get these goods to this orphanage.

  • We had -- I can't remember how much.

  • It was like 600 or 800 pounds of stuff people sent --

  • you know, school supplies and clothes.

  • And, so, we went into the city

  • and we wound up meeting all these kids.

  • There was a Boy Scout program going on at this orphanage.

  • It was just a reminder that, you know,

  • even in the middle of a war, you know, most people's

  • full-time job during a war is not to be in a war.

  • They're going about their lives.

  • And it was a reminder of just kind of the humanity

  • that is there in this hauntingly beautiful city

  • even as this awful situation was going on around it.

  • -Yeah. I mean, what do you do as a kid?

  • -You know, the thing is -- they're just kids, right?

  • They behave like kids anywhere.

  • They're running around. You know, they've got candy.

  • They're joking.

  • And you just think about,

  • "What's the future for a child in a country like this?"

  • But there was a lot of really good work going on

  • with some of the organizations, like the group called PARSA

  • that ran this orphanage.

  • And I wonder what happened to some of those kids

  • that are in those pictures.

  • -Oh, that's nice that you did that and gave us your time.

  • Now that you're on the road and you're talking to everybody

  • and you're campaigning, what is the big issue

  • that is being brought up?

  • -Yeah. Well, we're talking a lot about democratic reform,

  • just because I think all the issues we care about,

  • of which I think climate is probably the most pressing --

  • But it's gonna be hard to deal with any issue

  • as long as Congress is set up with districts where, you know,

  • politicians are choosing their voters,

  • instead of the other way around.

  • For my dime, we ought to elect our president

  • just by a national popular vote and just count up the votes

  • and give it to the person who gets the most votes.

  • So... [ Cheers and applause ]

  • So, there's a lot of structural reform we got to go,

  • but also climate.

  • Climate's a life-and-death issue,

  • you know, especially for my generation

  • and those coming after.

  • For the rest of our lives, you know, our chances in life

  • will be partly decided by whether or not our economy

  • can survive all the climate disruption going on.

  • As a mayor, we've already had to deal with historic flooding.

  • You know, we had a once-in-a-1,000-year flood,

  • followed by a once-in-a-500-year flood, they told us,

  • two years apart, so it's a huge issue.

  • -What can we do?

  • -Well, there's a lot of things we could do right away.

  • Major federal investment in renewables,

  • carbon storage, energy storage.

  • There's also a plan called a carbon tax and dividend.

  • Basically, you set a price on things that put carbon

  • into the atmosphere, but then you can rebate that

  • back out to the American people, so most of us

  • would actually be economically better off if we did it.

  • Meanwhile, it would help change the economic incentives

  • so that you'd see less activity that hurts the environment,

  • because the true cost is not reflected in the price of,

  • for example, energy that comes from coal.

  • If you're facing the true price of it,

  • you'd have to set that price a lot higher.

  • -Is there it money?

  • Is that what you're really fighting --

  • -That's part of it.

  • You know, there's, obviously, a fossil-fuel industry,

  • that is really committed to keeping things the way they are,

  • which is why our campaign signed a pledge that we're not going to

  • accept any funding from the fossil-fuel industry.

  • -Really? [ Cheers and applause ]

  • -Final question. Very important.

  • Who do you think will be on the throne

  • at the end of "Game of Thrones."

  • -All right, so, we've been campaigning pretty hard,

  • so no spoilers.

  • I'm an episode behind. -Me too. Oh, good.

  • -Okay. All right. Good. We're in the same boat.

  • -This is fantastic. We could talk all night.

  • -Up until this year, this season,

  • I was pretty much on Team Daenerys.

  • I felt like she was really growing in her leadership style.

  • -Of course.

  • -I'm a little concerned now, based on what I've seen

  • in the last few episodes,

  • that her kind of management approach

  • has kind of got some issues.

  • -Her management approach. -I'm kind of back to square one.

  • I don't know.

  • I'm rooting for Jon Snow -- maybe not the brightest,

  • but definitely, you know, got a good heart.

  • -Wow. -Tough to say.

  • -What a great answer to a "Game of Thrones" question.

  • You put a lot of thought into it.

  • I appreciate that. Thank you. Mayor Pete Buttigieg, everybody.

-Did you have a good Mother's Day?

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