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  • >>male presenter: First off, I'd like to thank everybody for coming. I think it's a cool

  • topic that will be of interest to a lot of us. My name is Mark Rivera. I'm with the People

  • and Innovation Lab at Google. We spend a lot of time thinking about what makes people at

  • Google--all of us--happy and productive.

  • And so, we are very pleased to have Dr. Sheena Iyengar here, who is one of the foremost experts

  • on a really broad topic. That is, choice--how people make choices and what happens to us

  • when we're faced with an overload of choices, which, I think, it's safe to say all of us

  • usually are. To demonstrate this, we just took her to lunch at Charlie's.

  • [laughter]

  • One of the difficult choices we face on a day-to-day basis. Sheena wrote a book called

  • "The Art of Choosing," which has been an extraordinary hit. Amazon, in 2010, it was one of the best

  • books of Amazon.

  • It was the finalist for the Financial Times Book of the Year. Her work has been covered

  • in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, books like Malcolm Gladwell's "Blink." She's

  • been a guest on CNN, CNBC, CBS, and now at Tech Talk at Google. So, please join me in

  • welcoming Sheena.

  • [applause and cheer]

  • [pause]

  • >>Sheena Iyengar: Well, thank you for having me here today. This is my first time ever

  • coming to Google. And the place really is quite cool, particularly when you see those,

  • the volleyball pit. It was really quite cool. And when I went to Charlie's, I actually commented

  • to my assistant that there really are some benefits to being blind given that I couldn't

  • see all the choices. So, I didn't actually--.

  • [laughter]

  • So, as you know, I have been studying choice now for about 20 years. And I essentially

  • look at three big questions--and those are all covered in the book--which is why do we

  • want choice? What are some of the things that affect how and what we choose?

  • And what are some things that we can do to improve our choosing experiences and choice

  • outcomes? Now today, I'm going to talk about a particular modern day dilemma that has to

  • do with choice. And this dilemma is, perhaps, the biggest dilemma that we all face today.

  • And it relates to all three of these questions.

  • Now, as I talk about this modern day dilemma, I'm going to need your help. So, there's going

  • to be times when I'm gonna have some questions for you and I'm gonna wanna know your answers.

  • So, since I'm blind, when I ask you a quick question, only raise your hands if you wanna

  • burn off some calories.

  • [laughter]

  • Otherwise, when I ask you a question, I'd appreciate it if you'd, if your answer is

  • "yes" just clap your hands. So, are you ready to hear about the modern day dilemma of choice?

  • [clapping]

  • Thank you. So, this dilemma that I'm referring to has been referred to by many, many different

  • names now over the years. It's been studied now for over ten years. The first time I got

  • wind of the fact that it was actually being referred to by many different names was when

  • I met the head of Fidelity Research.

  • And he described to me this problem. In fact, he was describing to me my own study--not

  • that he knew that--and then he even gave me some slides that described this problem very

  • well. They were actually better than my slides, so I just took them.

  • [chuckles]

  • And he called it the "narrow it down" problem. Then there was the time when I met with senior

  • management in McKinsey and they described the same problem, the same study, the same

  • results. And they had an internal memo, which they titled, "The Three by Three Rule."

  • Now, my favorite description of this particular problem was the one offered by Rush Limbaugh.

  • He said it was the stuff of pointy headed intellectuals that didn't know the first thing

  • about the marketplace. Now, I figured I was in good company if I was being skewered by

  • Rush Limbaugh. You have probably heard about this problem.

  • It's most often referred to in the media as the "jam" problem. It was first identified

  • and discovered right here in the Bay Area, in the South Bay. So, I wanna now tell you

  • the real story behind the jam problem. When I was a PhD student at Stanford University,

  • I used to go to this upscale grocery store. And it was called Draeger's.

  • In those days, it was a rather unusual store. I mean, nowadays, you have stores like it

  • all over the country. In those days, it was truly unique. You went there. There were 250

  • different kinds of mustards and vinegars and mayonnaise. Over 500 different kinds of fruits

  • and vegetables. They even had 12 different kinds of bottled water.

  • Of course, I noticed you guys had three different kinds here at Charlie's cafe. I mean, who

  • even thought of--. I mean, distinguishing between water. Here is their olive oil aisle.

  • They had 75 different kinds of extra virgin olive oil, including those that were in a

  • locked case that came from a thousand year old olive trees.

  • [laughter]

  • Now, I used to go to this store. I liked going to this store. And one day, I asked myself

  • a rather strange question. How come you never buy anything? Now, true. I was a poor graduate

  • student, but I could afford some things in that store. So, I decided to pay a visit to

  • the manager. And I asked him whether this model of offering people all these choices

  • was really working.

  • And he pointed at the bus-loads of tourists, usually with cameras in hand, and said, "Yeah.

  • It's working." We decided to do a little experiment. We chose Wilken and Sons, it’s a jam. Oh.

  • Here's the jam aisle. And they had 348 different kinds of jam. We chose Wilken and Sons, the

  • Queen of England's brand, to do our little experiment with.

  • So, we set up a tasting booth right near the entrance of the store. We either put out six

  • different flavors jam, or 24 different flavors of jam. And now we measured two things. First,

  • in which case were people, entering in the store passing by, more likely to stop and

  • sample some jam? Second, in which case were people more likely to take the opportunity

  • and use the coupon that we just gave them for free--giving them one dollar off of a

  • bottle of jam--in which case are they more likely to buy a jar of jam?

  • Now, more people stopped when there were 24--60 percent--as compared to when there were six--40

  • percent. Well, when it came down to buying behavior, we saw the opposite effect. Of the

  • people who stopped when there were 24, only three percent of them actually bought a jar

  • of jam. Now, by contrast, of the people who stopped when there were six, 30 percent of

  • them actually bought a jar of jam.

  • Now, if you do the math, people were at least six times more likely to buy a jar of jam

  • if they encountered six than if they encountered 24. So, although people were more attracted

  • to the larger display, when it came down to actually making a choice, they were more likely

  • to choose when they saw fewer than when they saw more.

  • Now, that study was published in 2000. And since then, there's been over a decade of

  • research that has looked at this jam problem, which I'm gonna call the "choice overload"

  • problem, across many, many domains. Jams to chocolates to speed dating to any kind of

  • dating type choices, political choices, investment choices, health care choices, job search choices,

  • in lots of different domains of choice, ranging from the trivial to the consequential.

  • And essentially, we observed three negative consequences of offering people too much choice.

  • I'm gonna summarize these results. And keep in mind that while I'm biased towards describing

  • you results from my studies, many of my colleagues in the field have also looked at this phenomenon.

  • First, consequence.

  • The more choices people have the more likely they are to delay or procrastinate. Now, this

  • is a good thing when the choice is whether or not to buy jam. That's probably really

  • good for my waistline. The problem is that we delay and procrastinate even when it goes

  • against our best self-interest. So, I'm gonna give you one case of a situation where clearly,

  • we should not be delaying or procrastinating.

  • At least most of us would agree with that. Let's take the specific case of retirement

  • savings decisions. I had an opportunity to do a project with Vanguard. We looked at 800

  • thousand Americans from 657 institutions, drawn from 64 different industries. And we

  • looked at whether the number of funds offered in a retirement savings program--the 401K

  • plan--was correlated with participation rates.

  • And we found that it was. So, here's a snapshot of the graph. So, for plans that offered you

  • about a handful of choices, participation rates, some were in the 70th percentile. Still

  • not great. But by the time you got to plans that offered you 60 options, participation

  • rates had dropped to about 60 percent. Notice how the big trend in retirement savings industry

  • now is to reduce, reduce, reduce.

  • Bring it down to about three options. So, first consequence. The more choices people

  • have, more likely they are to delay and procrastinate even when it goes against their best self-interest.

  • Second consequence. The more choices people have, the more likely they are to make inferior

  • choices, worse choices.

  • So, let's just stick to the 401K decision. The more choices people have, even when you

  • look at the people that actually chose to participate, the more choices they had, the

  • more likely they were to put all their money in money market accounts. We all know that's

  • a dumb decision. That doesn't even grow at the rate of inflation.

  • The more choices they had, the more likely they were to entirely avoid equities. We all

  • know that when you're talking about long-term financial growth, that doesn't make sense.

  • Sure, in a one-off bad year, but not from a long-term future financial perspective.

  • We also know that the more choices people have, the more likely they are to exhibit

  • inconsistent preferences.

  • And that happens even on important domains like romantic choices, job search choices.

  • Third consequence. The more choices people have, the more likely they are to be less

  • satisfied with that which they have chosen. Why? Because you're constantly saying, "What

  • if?"

  • [laughter]

  • So, here's one of my favorite examples--just because food's on the mind right now. So,

  • imagine either being shown six different kinds of Godiva chocolate or 30 different kinds

  • of Godiva chocolate. And the only thing you have to do is pick a chocolate, eat it, tell

  • me how delicious it is. Turns out, the same chocolate selected from six is regarded as

  • less, as more delicious than when it was chosen from 30. Now, how anybody could consider any

  • chocolate less delicious is beyond me, but--.

  • [laughter]

  • As they're walking out the door, now here they had this wonderful experience. They got

  • to eat a free chocolate. As they're walking out the door, they now have a choice. They

  • can either get paid for this highly entertaining activity or they could get a free box of chocolate.

  • The people who saw six were four times more likely to go for a free box of chocolate,

  • more satisfied with the choice.

  • So, why do we experience choice overload? Right? After all, the more choices we have,

  • the more opportunities we have to find the best choice, the perfect match. Well, let's

  • now think about the causes of choice overload. We've always known that our eyes are too big

  • for our stomachs, but it turns out that our eyes are too big for our minds as well.

  • We have cognitive limitations. In 1956, the famous psychologist George Miller, came out

  • with a very simple idea. And that idea still holds true today. He came out with this paper

  • called "The Magical Number Seven, Plus or Minus Two." Very simple idea. We keep wanting

  • to attack this idea and say, "No, it's too simplistic."

  • But it keeps coming up. And here's how the idea goes: We have some basic limitations

  • of our brains. If I ask you to rank order from best to worst for a whole bunch of things--taste,

  • smells, looks of things--no matter what it is, beyond about seven, I just get confused.

  • Things I thought I liked better, I like less well and vice versa.

  • If I ask you to keep track of some things in your minds--words, numbers, pictures--and

  • I don't give you the opportunity to rehearse or memorize that information, beyond about

  • seven, the information just starts to crumble away. Now, if you think about it, what is

  • a choice? It's a bundle of information. What are you doing when you make a choice?

  • You're comparing bundles upon bundles upon bundles upon bundles of information. This

  • can be quite taxing on the mind. Now, I know what you're thinking. "OK. OK. Yeah. I've

  • seen some context in which I get pretty overwhelmed with a lot of choice, but you know what? I

  • really like having a lot of choice.

  • What about that time when I loved that rare song on that rare CD?" So, when do we benefit

  • from having more choices? And the answer to that lies in our level of expertise. So, let's

  • take a cognitively challenging activity, like playing chess. Right? So, let's look at the

  • youngest chess master in the world, Judit Polgar.

  • Now, can you imagine Judit Polgar when she's deciding that next move? She's not looking

  • at just the next move, of course. She's gotta look at least eight moves ahead of where she

  • is right now. If she were to contemplate every single move and every single combination of

  • moves that she has available to her at that moment, it's more than the number of stars

  • in the galaxy.

  • And yet, she makes that decision, in the words of Malcolm Gladwell, "in a blink of an eye."

  • And how does she do that? Does she have this supercomputer in her brain that just deals

  • with all these choices? No. She sees that chess board, not as made up of individual

  • pieces, but made up of lines of attack as patterns.

  • Her expertise allows her to organize, prioritize the pieces on that board such that she can

  • quickly dump out the irrelevant options and zero in on that handful of most relevant options.

  • It's not that she has a better memory bank. If I were to take that chess board and rearrange

  • it in a way that doesn't make sense, it wouldn't naturally occur in an ordinarily occurring

  • chess game, she won't do any better than any of us at rearranging and re-memorize and re-putting

  • together that chess board.

  • [pause]

  • So, if we have expertise in the domain, which means that we've learned about our options,

  • we've learned all the patterns that are available to us, we do better. We can handle more choices.

  • [pause]

  • So, if you think about the modern day choosing environment, who is it best suited for? Well,

  • it's ideally suited for the quote experts on the choice domain. So, let's say you wanna

  • buy a car. If you know that you wanna buy a car that's 30 thousand dollars, or under

  • 30 thousand dollars, it has a sun roof, has some extra cargo room space in the back, even

  • though you don't know exactly what car you want, simply having that information about

  • what your preferences are will make it a lot easier for you to dump out all the, a whole

  • bunch of irrelevant options and figure out what's your smaller choice set.

  • So, for those kinds of things, it's great to have a lot of choice. The problem is that

  • expertise is not that scalable. Just because you're an expert in classical music, doesn't

  • mean that you become an expert in rock music. And so therefore, it takes time to develop

  • expertise. And we're limited in our capacity to develop expertise on domain after domain

  • after domain.

  • But as customers, we constantly ask of our choice providers for more and more and more

  • choice, regardless of whether it's a domain in which we have expertise or not. Now, this

  • problem can become quite acute for businesses on whom the pressure to provide a lot of choice

  • is acute. I wanna share with you a rather mundane example, which I think is pretty powerful,

  • precisely because it's so mundane.

  • So, as a girl, I sometimes like to go to a manicure salon and get my nails done. As you

  • can imagine, as a blind person, getting your nails done, picking out a color is kind of

  • an interesting dilemma.

  • [laughter]

  • Right? I can't see the colors. I can't see what other people are choosing. So, I gotta

  • figure out what color I'm gonna pick. And so, I rely on other people's opinions. Now,

  • one time, I was in the beauty salon and I was choosing between two very light shades

  • of pink. Of course, everybody here knows you would never walk into a manicure salon that

  • offers you anything less than a hundred different bottles of nail polish color, right?

  • That's just not enough. That's just not a worthy beauty salon to get your nails done

  • in. All right. So, here I am choosing between very light shades of pink. One is called "Ballet

  • Slippers" and the other one is called "Adore-A-Ball."

  • [laughter]

  • Now, how many of you here would say that I should definitely go for Ballet Slippers?

  • [clapping]

  • OK. How many of you here would say I should go for Adore-A-Ball?

  • [clapping]

  • That's pretty much even. Maybe a little less on the second round. I don't know, but about

  • even. Anyway, I don't think that would help me make the choice any easier. So, here I

  • am trying to decide between these two. So, I ask these two ladies. The one lady says,

  • "Oh, you definitely have to go for Ballet Slippers."

  • "All right. Well, tell me about this color. Why should I choose it?" "Well, it's a sheer

  • pink. It'll look really elegant on you." Hey, that sounded nice to me. Sure. Elegant sounds

  • good. And the other lady chimes in and says, "No, no, no. You really need to choose Adore-A-Ball."

  • "Why? What does it look like? How is it different?" "Hmm. It's a light shade of pink. It'll look

  • really glamorous on you."

  • [laughter]

  • OK. They both sounded pretty light to me. I don't know the difference between sheer

  • and light. And then there's glamorous and elegant. So, I tried to get these two ladies

  • to explain to me the difference between elegant and glamorous. And about the only thing I

  • could get them to agree on was that if I could see them, I would know the difference.

  • [laughter]

  • So, I wondered about that. I decided to bring these two bottles into the laboratory. I took

  • the labels off and I invited a whole bunch of undergraduate women. And I asked them to

  • tell me which one they would pick. Fifty percent of the women that came in accused me of playing

  • a trick on them--

  • [laughter]

  • that it was the same color in these two bottles. We do have suspicious undergrads, but please.

  • Of the other 50 percent, more of them chose Adore-A-Ball. Now, when I put the labels back

  • on and invited a whole bunch of other women and asked them which one would they pick.

  • Now, more of them chose Ballet Slippers.

  • Who says that a rose by any other name would have actually not smell differently? So, why

  • is this happening? Well, this brings me to the second cause of choice overload, which

  • is that so often, the differences between the choices are so small. And yet, we feel

  • compelled to deliberate on those differences and figure out which one is the one I should

  • choose?

  • And that we are reluctant to simply roll the die and say, "Eenie, meenie, miney, moe."

  • We wouldn't want to be caught alive doing something like that. That is because when

  • we're making a choice today, whatever it is, what we're eating, what we're wearing, what

  • car we drive, what music we listen to, whatever it is, it's no longer just about function

  • and value.

  • What we buy says something about who we are. So, when we make a choice, we're not just

  • asking ourselves, "What do I want?" What I'm asking myself are some questions that are

  • much more complex than that. What I'm really asking myself is, "Who am I? And given who

  • I am, what do I want? And given what I want, well, what should I choose?"

  • Expressing yourself in this way allows you to assert your individuality, to distinguish

  • yourself from other people. It even allows you to custom make yourself, at least your

  • physical self these days. And yet, this kind of expression can become rather overwhelming

  • and frustrating as the number of options are proliferating beyond our capacity.

  • You see, though we think of choice as an active individuation, we rarely choose alone. By

  • this, what I mean is that every act of choice is an act of communication. Like body language,

  • it's generated by you--sometimes consciously, sometimes subconsciously. And each time I

  • make a choice, I'm sending a message to you.

  • Most often, the message that I want to send to you is that, "Oh, look. I'm unique. But

  • you can still relate to me. I'm an individual, not an outcast." Well, how unique are we really?

  • My colleague and I started to find out. We asked people to tell us how much they liked

  • a whole range of things, like what names would you like to call your child to sunglasses

  • to ties, shoes, etc.

  • We asked them how unique are these things, how much do you like these things, how much

  • do you think other people would like these things. To give you a sense of what the choices

  • were, names ranged from Mike to Addison to Nehemiah. Ties went from the standard black

  • or red to stripes and paisleys, all the way on up to neon orange leopard prints.

  • [pause]

  • Well, everyone believed that they were more unique than everybody else. Everyone believed

  • they liked more unique things than everybody else. Fact. Everybody liked the same things.

  • Nothing too bland. Nothing too bizarre. Just right was slightly unique. One participant

  • really put it well.

  • When you're wearing a suit, the tie is the one thing you have to show off your taste

  • and personality. Some of these ties have way too much personality and not enough taste.

  • It's just not right to wear an avant garde tie. So, although we aspire to be unique,

  • we still wanna be understood. Yes, we want to stand out from the majority, but usually

  • not in a way that makes us a member of a glaring and lonely minority.

  • Which brings me to the third cause of choice overload, which is that today, choosing has

  • become a high-stakes exercise. We have so much pressure put upon us to know what we

  • want, to express what we want, and to make choices that are in line with what we say

  • we want.

  • As Nicholas Rose wrote in his book, "The Powers of Freedom," "Modern individuals are not merely

  • free to choose, but obliged to be free, to understand and enact their lives in terms

  • of choice. They must interpret their past and dream their futures as outcomes of choices

  • made and choices still to be made. Their choices are in their turn, realizations of the attributes

  • of the choosing person, expressions of personality that reflect back on those who have made them."

  • So, when we're making a choice, it's actually even more complicated than I described a few

  • minutes ago. It's not just that you're asking yourself, "Who am I, and given who I am, what

  • do I want? And given what I want, what should I choose?" In addition to all of that, I'm

  • also asking myself, "If I pick that, what does that say about who I am and what I want?

  • And is that sending the right message about who I am and what I stand for?"

  • That's a huge burden. Now, think about it from the perspective of you, the choice provider.

  • You've got quite the dilemma here, right? You've gotta give people lots of choices because

  • people need to feel that they found the exact fit for their unique selves, even though they're

  • really not that unique. And yet at the same time, if you give them too many choices, then

  • they might procrastinate or get less satisfied or make bad choices for themselves.

  • So, how do help them out? What I wanna do now is show you just a few techniques drawn

  • from my research groups. We actually test out quite a few techniques. I wanna share

  • with you three techniques today--three low-cost techniques that seemed adaptable to the Google

  • environment and give you some examples of how to think about these.

  • Now, I should preface all of these techniques by saying the following. I don't think people

  • want a lot of choice. People will say they want a lot of choice, but I don't think that's

  • what they really want. What they really want is a better choosing experience. They want

  • to feel competent during the choosing process.

  • And they want to feel confident that what they have chosen is a quote "good choice."

  • That's what they want. And once you frame it that way, it gives us a little more flexibility.

  • So, the first technique. Cut. I know, I know. This doesn't seem to be very popular around

  • here. We don't like to hear the word cut, but you know what?

  • Less really is more. When Proctor and Gamble went from 26 varieties of Head and Shoulder

  • down to 15, they actually saw a rise in sales of ten percent. When the Golden Cat Corporation

  • got rid of their ten worst selling cat litter products, they actually saw an increase of

  • revenues of 87 percent that came from a drop in costs and an increase in sales.

  • Think about grocery store shopping. I told you about Draeder's, right? Well, do you know

  • the eighth largest retailer today is ALDI. It's a grocery store. Last year, it grew by

  • five times the rate of all the other grocery store chains. Now, the average grocery store

  • today offers you 45 thousand products. The average Walmart today offers you a hundred

  • thousand products. ALDI?

  • Fourteen hundred. Only one kind of canned tomato sauce. But people trust that it's a

  • good value tomato sauce. And I know you guys are on the online world, so here's an online

  • study. This is an online grocer, doesn't wish to be named, done by my fellow colleague at

  • Harvard. Now, what they did, this online grocer decided to reduce the number of choices that

  • they offered.

  • Fifty-four percent of the choices were removed. Seventy-five percent of the households ended

  • up buying more. And these were of households that were buying before as well. They saw

  • an overall sales increase of 11 percent. Now, let me give you some specifics. If they cut

  • brands, there was a modest positive increase in sales.

  • If they cut flavors per brand, that's when it actually hurt sales. Now, look at brand

  • times size. Brand times size. What I mean by that, that's like a six-pack of Coke, two-Liter

  • bottle. I add 12-pack. Removing the 12-pack dramatically increases sales. That size times

  • brand choice additions just don't help us.

  • We just get confused. We stop buying. That's what's going on here with these kinds of choices.

  • Now, a lot of times we also believe that, you know luck, choices are really useful because

  • it also, it doesn't just help you in terms of sales, but it also helps you become more

  • creative, particularly in the performance arena.

  • Now, let's test that. I wanna show you one of my favorite studies. It wasn't done by

  • me, but I love the picture so I use it. So, imagine a bunch of expert knitters. They've

  • been asked to make a scarf, to knit a scarf. This is what they do for their profession.

  • They're either given twelve pieces of yarn or six pieces of yarn, and given one week

  • to make a scarf.

  • They know they're gonna be judged by other knitters on how creative these are. And they

  • know they're gonna be judged by potential buyers on how creative they are. Here's what

  • the scarves look like when they have 12 pieces of yarn. Here's what the scarves look like

  • when they had six pieces of yarn. Hey, what do you guys think? You like twelve better?

  • Is twelve more creative? What about six?

  • [clapping]

  • I'm hearing more enthusiasm for the six. And we see this across many different domains

  • now that if you give people a lot of choices, even when they're experts in the domain of

  • creativity, it doesn't seem to be helping.

  • Now, you guys, though, also give people choice. You give people choice in a rather interesting

  • way, which is that you allow your employees to take 20 percent of their time to do something

  • creative. And you might say, "Well, is it that bad?" Well, it's not bad. Because we've

  • put a bandwidth around it.

  • Notice how 50 percent--actually you guys can give me the real numbers on this--but notice

  • how a lot of different ideas that come out of new product inventions that come out of

  • Google came out of that 20 percent time. Things like Gmail that we can't actually imagine

  • a world without at this point. Why does that work and why does the 12 pieces of yarn not

  • work?

  • The great French polymath, Henri Poincare, once said, "Invention consists of avoiding

  • the constructing of useless combinations and consists of the constructing of useful combinations,

  • which are an infinite minority. To invent is to discern is to choose." Now, let me propose

  • the corollary, which is that to choose is to invent, so that as we learn about, as we

  • develop expertise in a given area, we are able to be in a better position to best construct

  • those most useful combinations, rather than being distracted by these external stimuli.

  • We can construct what's most useful. So those are some thoughts on "cut."

  • Now, there are times when you're gonna say to me, "Look. I've cut as much as I can. I

  • just can't cut anymore. I need to offer people all these choices because they really are

  • different." So, my first rule of thumb, by the way, get rid of all redundant, irrelevant

  • options. So now, these choices really are different.

  • What do you do? Brings you to the second technique: categorization. Now, categorization works

  • in some pretty interesting ways. Take a magazine aisle. I picked this just because it's a cognitively

  • fairly intensive task. You have magazine aisles up and down the Wegman's grocery stores. They

  • offer anywhere from 331 to 664 magazines in their aisle.

  • Their aisle is identical. So, all they're doing is double, triple, quadruple slotting

  • the same magazine when they have less. And what we were interested in was in looking

  • at to what extent does the number of magazines affect people's perceptions, their satisfaction,

  • in sales. And what we found was quite interesting.

  • If I ask you how many choices you have in front of you, you don't know the right answer

  • to that. The correlation between people's estimates of how many choices they thought

  • they had in front of them and how many actual choices there were, was less than 0.05. It

  • was actually really low. That's because we don't actually sit around, like stand around

  • there, and count, like oh, one, two, three.

  • We just don't do that when you're talking about that many choices. What drove people's

  • perception of how many choices they had, whether they were satisfied with the choices present,

  • whether they were likely to buy, was not number, but how it was arranged. So, if you take 400

  • magazines and you divide it up into 25 categories, and you take 600 magazines and you divide

  • it up into 10 categories, people see the 400 as offering them more than the 600.

  • Why? Because categories become the cue for variety. And we can handle more categories

  • than we can handle choices. I can handle up to 20, 25 categories because categories are

  • cues. Like, not like. Like, not like. Dump out categories fast. I'm not so quick to dump

  • out choices, but I'll dump out categories.

  • And I'll say, "Yeah, OK. That category is relevant to me." Now, per category, you wanna

  • make the number of choices small. And I can't give you a scientific number on that. But

  • what we're seeing is that depending on how complex the choice is, somewhere between about

  • three to about ten seems to be a good range per category.

  • Now, I want you to look at this picture of jewelry displays. One is called "Jazz." The

  • other one is called "Swing." If you think the collection on the left should be called

  • Jazz and the collection on the right should be called Swing, clap your hands.

  • [clapping]

  • OK. Some people. Collection on the left, Swing. Collection on the right, Jazz.

  • [clapping]

  • Well, more people said that. And by the way, you guys are right. That's how they call it.

  • That's how Tiffany labels them. But you know what? This is a horrible way to categorize.

  • I mean, gimme a break. Does it really look like this is Jazz versus Swing? Does that

  • really tell you anything about what you wanna buy and put on your ears or body? The category

  • names should not be informative to the choice-makers. They should be informative to the choosers.

  • [pause]

  • So, one of my favorite examples of really good categorization is this store called Best

  • Sellers. Maybe some of you went to this store before it got bought out by A and P. It was

  • rated as the number one wine shop by the Wine Enthusiast magazine in '09. It only offers

  • you a hundred different bottles of wine, divided up into eight categories.

  • The category names really make sense to me. They're like, fizzy, juicy. OK. I get that.

  • Per category, they only give me about ten options, a little over ten options. And now

  • look. If I can zero in on one category, well, now I'm willing to engage. I'm gonna engage

  • and maybe learn about the various wines.

  • Maybe even read all the information that the sommeliers want me to read so I can look smart

  • and feel smart when I pick up that bottle of wine and I'll take it to my boss' place.

  • Because when we make a choice, it's not just an expression of our preferences. It's not

  • like we know our preferences and then we go in and make a choice in line with that.

  • So often, the choosing process itself teaches us what our preferences really are. So now,

  • let's look at a third technique. It's what I call "conditioned for complexity." So, this

  • is a technique that, I think, works well for really complicated choices, like the customization

  • problem. And I wanna show you a really complicated study that was done with a bunch of colleagues

  • of mine.

  • One of them will be actually here tomorrow, Jonathan Levav. And here's what we did. This

  • was done with a German car manufacturer. And this German car manufacturer wishes to be

  • unknown. So, this particular car company allows people, residing in Europe, when they buy

  • this car, to completely custom-make their car. So, they make an average of about 60

  • different decisions.

  • So, they're gonna decide. So, once you decide on a particular model of car, now you have

  • to make a whole bunch of decisions about this car. So, you onto the computer and you even

  • have to click on different decisions. And these decisions vary in the number of options

  • that they offer you, like gear shift, you've got four options.

  • Interior decor, 13 options. Exterior car color, 56 car colors. So, here's what they agreed

  • to do. They varied the order in which the decisions were presented. So, half the customers

  • went from high choice decisions--56 car colors--to low choice decisions--four gear shifts. The

  • other half went from low choice decisions--four gear shifts--to high choice decisions--56

  • car colors.

  • [pause]

  • Notice that they're all seeing the same amount of choice. The experience ought to be identical.

  • The amount of information that I'm asking them to shove into their brains is ultimately

  • the same, but it will not be experienced in the same way. Now, how are we gonna test that?

  • Well, per decision, you can hit the default key, which means you'll automatically get

  • whatever happens to be the default.

  • So, we reasoned, "If I see you hitting that default key a lot, that means you're getting

  • disengaged. You're getting tired." You know, look. If you're talking about spending over

  • 30 thousand Euros of your hard-earned money and now you're just gonna hit the default

  • key?

  • [laughter]

  • So, here's what you get. High to low. They start off engaged. Then they start hitting

  • the default. Low to high. There's hanging in there.

  • [pause]

  • Now, we also asked them after they paid down over 30 thousand in Euros, how satisfied were

  • they with their car that they just purchased? And from the perspective of the vendor, they

  • want you to be happy and contemplating your next car. High to low. Not so happy. Low to

  • high. Much happier.

  • Now, I've shown you this one. We actually did this with quite a number of other different

  • decisions, but I picked this one 'cause it's probably the most complicated of the decisions

  • that we've looked at. So, what's happening here, like, why should it make a difference?

  • Well, think about it this way. You start off with a simple decision because it only has

  • a few choices.

  • You're learning how to choose. You're learning how to form preferences. Even though the decision

  • of which gear shift doesn't actually teach you anything about your preferences of interior

  • decor, by the time you get to 13 choices, you're getting better at ruling out alternatives

  • and figuring out how to choose and how to form preferences.

  • By the time you get to 56 car colors, you're excited. You wanna see what this end product

  • looks like. You are engaged. You are willing to invest. So, starting off in the shallows

  • helps prepare you for the complexity. Teaches you how to choose. Teaches you how to deal

  • with complexity. Teaches you how to form preferences.

  • And it keeps you motivated. Remember I referred to the three-by-three rule earlier on that

  • McKinsey has. It's another form of this. They are dealing with complicated products, with

  • high-end clients. They understand that they're clients don't know their preferences. So,

  • what do they do? They structured the choice in three tiers of three choices.

  • That's how they--. That way, people understand how they made their choices and how they went

  • from one set of choices to the next set of choices to the next set of choices. When you

  • look at investment brokers and you look at what are the, what is the commonly reported

  • technique of the top ten percent of investment brokers as to what do they do?

  • They will also tell you a version of the three-by-three rule. Right? How do you get people to understand

  • what their risk preferences really are and what their investment style is going to be,

  • is using some version of three-by-three because some people don't actually know upfront who

  • they really are and what kind of an investor they wanna be.

  • Back to the Bay Area. Let's compare Apple versus the Dell choosing experience. Notice

  • how Apple has very much this flavor of being a kind of company that offers products that's

  • about you, that's supposed to speak to you, that's about your identity. Well, guess what.

  • Look at how many choices they offer. Two laptops, two desktops, and then within those, a series

  • of two choices that are in two buckets.

  • Look at Dell. Nine versus eleven. So, choice can be linked. Giving people less choice can

  • be linked still to a sense of identity, a sense of uniqueness. So, let me wrap up here.

  • I have talked about this phenomenon known as choice overload. I've described three consequences

  • of that. Three consequences being more likely to disengage, lower quality, less satisfied.

  • Three causes of choice overload. And then, I finally described you three techniques for

  • trying to mitigate the problem of choice overload--cut, get rid of the irrelevant, redundant, extraneous

  • alternatives. Second, categorize. Categorize it in a way that makes the differences between

  • the choices meaningful.

  • Third, condition for complexity. Start people off easy. Think of that choosing exercise

  • as one in which people need to learn what their preferences are and how to choose. Now,

  • I know I've focused so far on the domain of how do you deal with, how do you offer choosers,

  • from the perspective of choice providers, choices?

  • I mean, present that. But look. Choice and the management of choice affects all of us

  • no matter what we do, whether we're a choice provider or whether we're something else,

  • we're all constantly trying to manage choices. So, what I wanna now do is have you contemplate,

  • or have you actually do an exercise that helps you think about how to better manage your

  • choices in your everyday work lives.

  • We make a lot of choices in our every day work lives. People report making hundreds

  • upon hundreds of choices per week in their life. When CEO's were recently followed, they

  • found that CEO's in an average week engaged in about 139 tasks that were made up of many,

  • many, many sub-choices--an average of about five times as many choices as there were tasks

  • that they engaged in.

  • That's not what's so surprising. Fifty percent of their decisions were made in nine minutes

  • or less. Only about ten percent of the decisions that CEO's made did they give an hour or more

  • of their time. Now, think about your time. Do you know what makes it into the nine minute

  • category versus the one hour category?

  • Are they the right choices? So, what I'd like you to do now is do a little exercise with

  • me. It's on your chairs. This is an exercise that I do with a lot of executive programs.

  • If you remember nothing else today, I just want you to take this exercise with you and

  • do it twice a year. People say it's the best thing they've done for themselves.

  • And in a matter of weeks, I'm gonna have an app posted 'cause I know you guys like apps,

  • right? There's going to be an app posted on my website and I will send you guys the link

  • to it so you can do it next time as an app. Now, in reality, you should take about 45

  • minutes to do this task. I only have what, ten minutes? How many minutes are you gonna

  • give me?

  • >>Male presenter: Ten minutes.

  • >>Sheena Iyengar: OK. I got ten minutes to do this task. What I'm going to do is really

  • just walk you through it just to make sure you've got the understanding of how to do

  • it, give you a flavor of it. And then I want you to later do this right. All right. So,

  • first, jot down tasks that you do in a given week at work.

  • [long pause]

  • [bell dings]

  • All right. Now, look at that list. Think about what you can cut. You should delegate it out.

  • It's extraneous. It's a waste of time. It's irrelevant. You shouldn't be doing it. Try

  • to cut at least 50 percent.

  • [long pause]

  • You know, when I noticed that cafe that only offers you one choice with what to eat for

  • lunch, I knew instantly that that would absolutely be one of the choices I would cut from my

  • life working here. Not gonna go to the cafe that offers me choices. Just gonna go to that

  • cafe that gives me no choice.

  • [laughter]

  • [long pause]

  • [bell dings]

  • Now, take the choices that you have remaining. People are always giving me sass about not

  • wanting to cut. They're convinced they can't cut. OK? You'll see what I mean as we go further

  • down and you'll go back up and wanna cut. OK? So now, take what you've got and ask yourself,

  • "On which of these tasks is the frustration after completing it higher than the reward?

  • Which of these tasks is the reward higher than the frustration?"

  • Frustration is higher than reward? Nine minute category. Your goal there is "I just wanna

  • prevent disaster." Let's find some quick formulas, simple solutions to prevent a disaster. Reward

  • higher than frustration? One hour category possibility.

  • [long pause]

  • [slam]

  • [bell dings]

  • Now what you do, is you take all the ones that are in your one hour category potential

  • and now you categorize them. Try and make it not more than five categories. But see

  • how many you've got.

  • [long pause]

  • [audience member coughs]

  • [bell dings]

  • How many categories are we seeing here? Just call them out.

  • >>male #1: Five.

  • >>Sheena Iyengar: Five. Two. Any others? Three. Anything higher than five? OK. So, I guess

  • I'm hearing somewhere from two to five. Now you wanna ask yourself is where is your value

  • added to yourself and to the organization highest? On which category is your value added

  • the highest? That goes to the top and you rank order it from highest to lowest in terms

  • of value added.

  • And that's how you know where to spend more of your time.

  • [pause]

  • OK? So, I would encourage you to really do this, take some more time doing this so that

  • you can really do it seriously. The two main observations that people have when they do

  • this is first, they realize some things that they really should be cutting. And it's helpful

  • to do it every few months because it just becomes a good reality check.

  • The second observation that people have is they'll realize that, "You know what? I'm

  • just not spending the time on the stuff that matters more, that's more valuable. I'm spending

  • way too much time on the crap." So it helps them re-balance their time and re-balance

  • their time more in favor of the priorities.

  • Now we all know the Pareto rule, right? The idea that look, 80 percent of the rewards

  • I'm gonna get in life--. I'm sorry. Twenty percent--. No, sorry. Eighty percent of the

  • rewards I'm gonna get in life come from 20 percent of my efforts. Which means, by the

  • way, that 80 percent of the time you spend doing your stuff is wasted.

  • But of that 20 percent that's gonna lead to your 80 percent reward, you wanna make that

  • really, really, really powerful, really, really meaningful. It's gotta be the stuff that really

  • matters, where your value added is the greatest. Remember the Pareto rule when you are trying

  • to allocate your time and your energies, where your thought processes should be, where all

  • your efforts should be going.

  • So, I want you to do this exercise. By the way, can I get a commitment from you guys

  • that you'll do it in the next 48 hours? Is that possible? How many people are willing?

  • [clapping]

  • All right. That's pretty good. All right. I'm gonna hold you to it, by the way.

  • [laughter]

  • As I said, there's gonna be an app posted and I'll send you the link so that next time

  • around, you don't have to do it by hand 'cause I'm sure you guys don't do anything by hand.

  • [laughter]

  • Now, if there's one message that I wanna leave you with today--. There's two things that

  • I don't want you to forget. I don't want you to forget this exercise. And I don't want

  • you to forget the one message of today.

  • And that is that if we are to get the most from choice in our lives, I think it is necessary

  • that we should be choosy about choosing. And that is one of the essential keys to the art

  • of choosing. Thank you very much.

  • [applause]

  • Do I have time to take questions?

  • >>Male presenter: Yes. Does anyone have any questions?

  • >>female #1: So, I had a question, if, when you, the list, is it work related tasks or

  • life tasks?

  • >>Sheena Iyengar: I would do them separately. I told you to do it work-related. But I would

  • do work and life separately. If you try to do both at the same time, you'll be overwhelmed.

  • [laughs]

  • >>female #2: Do you have any techniques for like, breaking addiction to choice? Like,

  • if you're just like, "I must pick the absolute best restaurant to get into tonight" or like

  • you're really, you just can't stop trying to backslide? Any tips on that?

  • >>Sheena Iyengar: I'll tell you what I do. I ask myself, "Is this choice worth making?"

  • I always ask myself that. If it's not, I'm not dedicating any energy. So, look. I love

  • wine. I really love to have a glass of wine with dinner. But do you know that I never

  • choose my wine? I joined the New York Times Wine Club. And every month, eight bottles

  • are sent to my house and I have no idea what's coming.

  • [laughter]

  • And it's on average great.

  • >>female #3: [inaudible].

  • >>Sheena Iyengar: Oh, by the way. I never choose my restaurant.

  • [laughter]

  • >>female #3: You mentioned that when you [inaudible].

  • >>Sheena Iyengar: Yeah. Yeah.

  • >>female #3: [inaudible].

  • >>Sheena Iyengar: Usually, you are better off not giving people--. So, people do perform

  • better in a decision-making task, if they're not choosing whether or not, but they're choosing

  • between A or B. And A and B is fine and A, B, C is fine. Those are your two ways in which

  • we can really do a pretty good job. But whether or not to do something? We have a much harder

  • time doing the trade-offs on that.

  • >>female #4: Are there differences as far as personality types and things like that?

  • [inaudible]

  • >>Sheena Iyengar: I don't know of anything that relates choice to Myers-Briggs. I mean,

  • there is this--. I mean, Barry Schwartz is gonna be here tomorrow and he talks about

  • maximizers. And I've done some studies with Barry on the maximizers versus satisfiers.

  • And maximizers do, other people that say they want lots and lots and lots of choice and

  • shoot themselves in the foot that way. But I always feel--.

  • So, OK. Barry Schwartz and I often have this debate. He always says satisfies on everything,

  • even the choices that are most important to you on life. And I always say, on the decisions

  • that are really important to you, maximize. Everything else, find a simple heuristic.

  • Just make it really easy. And a lot of times, easy means don't choose.

  • [pause]

  • >>male #2: Is there a residual effect to being exposed to lots of choice? So when someone

  • goes into a store that's curated a set of choices for them, they forget that the rest

  • of the world exists and that choices outside of that store are possible?

  • >>Sheena Iyengar: Huh. That's an interesting question. I don't know. It seems plausible.

  • I mean, it certainly is the case that--. What was I reading recently? Fifty percent of ice

  • cream sales in the United States are accounted for by vanilla, chocolate, and strawberry.

  • Right?

  • But I can't imagine any of us would go into an ice cream parlor that only offered you

  • those three flavors. We would have to have at least 31 flavors these days, right? So,

  • yeah. I don't know. That's a good question.

  • [pause]

  • >>male presenter: All right. Thank you very much for your time.

  • >>Sheena Iyengar: Thank you.

  • [applause]

  • >>Male presenter: Thank you all for attending.

  • >>Sheena Iyengar: You guys can follow me on Twitter, by the way. I also have a Twitter

  • site.

  • [laughter]

  • Thank you.

>>male presenter: First off, I'd like to thank everybody for coming. I think it's a cool

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