Who's calling today from five oh six.

Hello? Uh, I'm Thomas from Canada.

Hey Thomas.

What's going on?

Um, I'm a little concerned and I guess there's an open ended question, but I'm a little concerned

with, uh, the stuff I've been reading about Yang sort of take on climate and the climate

crisis.

So there's been like a number of articles that say Andrew Yang is not your climate friend.

Uh, Andrew Yag report on climate in the debate wasn't like super, well Wa wasn't super well

versed or whatever.

Okay.

Um, and I was just wondering like sort of your take on that.

Um, he seemed a little, uh, pessimistic about the issue and not, um, saying things like

we're 10 years too late, et cetera.

And generally the, the issue I think previously has been like, we can't get politicians on

board with climate change and then Yang, the sort of issue that people are thinking with

Yang and he's on board but he's a little too pessimistic about it or that is his,

well, we'll talk about it

super dystopian.

I, uh, I actually appreciate, I mean, okay, listen, there are candidates who just deny

the science and are completely disconnected from reality and say everything's fine.

That's not good.

There are candidates who understand the crisis but seem to think that we're like five years

away from solving everything if you only elect them, which is not realistic to me.

So in a sense I find refreshing his sort of dystopian pessimistic look, uh, assuming that

he doesn't get over to, there's just not even a point in dealing with this because there's

no fixing it.

That would be a problem.

Right.

But I actually appreciate that he's being a little more frank.

I mean the imagery he used during the second debate on CNN where he said, we've got to

start talking to people about getting to higher ground because there are coastal areas that

are going to be implying literally underwater pretty soon.

I thought that that was actually really great that he was using language that communicated

the urgency and and sort of crisis that we're in.

I think the, the criticisms might be does he have the right plan to deal with it and

if maybe your argument is like you feel he's so pessimistic that he's not even focusing

enough on climate.

Is that what I'm hearing?

Well that's, that's the narrative that I sort of saw in the media.

Yeah.

But as far as my personal take on what he said, like had I not seen any other opinions

on it, if I just watched like his debate, I was like, I was completely on board with

you and him sort of being like, yeah, there's an extent of us that's just sort of screwed,

but let's take the action that we can do and like higher ground, etc.

Yeah.

I mean, listen, I haven't read the piece you're talking about, I should look at the piece

you're talking about and see what it argues.

But in my, in my study of Andrew Yang and in my conversations that I've had with them,

I think I've had him on three or four times.

I've not been alarmed by his, his view on climate.

I think, you know, the biggest criticism of Andrew Yang's view on climate and other issues

would be he may see it too much like a consulting project, right?

The sort of consulting ization of politics is something that may be Andrew Yang as someone

whose background is entrepreneurship online tech startups and whatnot.

Maybe that would be a fair critique.

Like the, the climate issue is, is a cultural issue.

It's a scientific issue.

It's many more things than just like, let's get the right consultants to solve the problem.

Um, that, but, but even that, I'm sort of like steel manning the strongest argument

against him.

Yeah, no, like I'm a, I'm a huge fan of him.

And I was just wondering, sort of like how, uh, if you had any criticism to the criticism

that he sort of took for that climate thing and, um, we're all on the same page.

Yeah.

I mean, my reaction to what he said was the same as what you said.

Uh, but I should read the critique you're talking about and maybe it does have some

merit.

Yes, sure.

Yeah.

Alright.

Uh, Thomas from Canada.

Thank you.

Where in Canada are you calling from?

A Nova Scotia.

Oh, I've never been there, but I've got some friends.

Uh, I've got some friends going up there in a this weekend actually.

Oh, nice.

Cool.

Yeah.

Okay, great.

Great to hear from you, Thomas.

Hope to hear from you again.