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  • The cloud data centers are very important to us

  • and when we look at it, you know, we had good adoption in the first generation of

  • of epic with Naples, you know including

  • Microsoft Azure and Amazon and

  • You know Baidu and $0.10

  • I think what we see in the second generation of epic as it relates to both cloud and om is

  • For those customers who were originally involved in the first generation of Naples

  • They're actually doubling down and they're increasing the number of instances

  • You know you heard from HP Enterprise yesterday that they're tripling

  • you know their portfolio and then for some of the the newer names like for example, we're very proud of Google and

  • Their announcement. I think you know Google is, you know, just a marquee

  • Environment for you know, let's call it tough tough data center problems

  • and so to be able to be a part of that is a real honor for us and

  • What you heard from Google is you know

  • They have us in their production environments for internal workloads as well as plans for

  • For Google, you know cloud platform later on in the year

  • You know, we're also very excited about the announcement with Twitter

  • You know again that's a you know, that's called an internal platform as it relates to you know

  • Cloud environments and I think we have both so it's your question of internal versus external

  • We have the external facing instances that you heard of from for Microsoft Azure

  • And then we have you know

  • Some of the internal stuff that you've heard from Google and Twitter along similar lines

  • Given that the cloud Giants tend to be faster when it comes to adopting new silicon than like traditional enterprises

  • what portion of

  • AMD's room sales

  • Do you expect like in the next say 2 or 3 quarters to come from the cloud Giants relative to the enterprise clients?

  • I think the two largest segments for us over the next

  • You know, let's call it a couple quarters to the you know, the the the end of the year will be cloud

  • yeah, that's cloud, you know sort of the the tier one, you know sort of the Super seven as well as some of the

  • next wave of cloud

  • companies as well as

  • HPC we've done very very well with HPC a number of wins with a number of OMS and

  • these tend to ramp faster because you know

  • They're highly technical in their decision-making and once they they make the decision they move quickly

  • Enterprise tends to take a little bit longer, you know Fortune 1000 CIOs take a bit longer in their evaluation cycle

  • We love the platform that we have, you know if you look across

  • HPE del, you know Lenovo Super Micro

  • The ODMs I think we have all the right platforms

  • It just takes a bit more time for them to complete their evaluations

  • How do you see average selling prices for um trending relative to Naples going forward?

  • Yeah, so we do see so the way we think about this is look we want to provide

  • Value to the data center operator and you know at the end of the day there needs to be something in it for everyone

  • Right it is work

  • To switch from you know our competitor to AMD there's work to be done. There's optimization to be done

  • And so, you know, we believe we're pricing it. Let's call it excellent performance at a fair price and as it relates to

  • From our standpoint, you know because the technology capability is going up. We do expect, you know a SPS for us to increase

  • As we go from Naples to Rome as well and that should reflect in our you know

  • forward-looking financials

  • AMD as

  • Over the last couple years talked up its efforts to offer a lot of the features that Intel is traditionally reserved for dual socket servers

  • On a single socket servers and it seems what they're room. You're doubling down on that

  • Is there an estimate you can give for how much of AMD's second genetic revenue could?

  • potentially involve single socket servers relative to dual socket servers and are there are particular types of customers that you feel are especially

  • Interested in them. Yeah, so we do feel strongly about this. We do feel strongly about this idea that

  • Customers should be able to decide

  • Whether they want, you know, all processor performance, or they want, you know, sort of the balance between processor

  • And i/o you know I think single socket is still?

  • new to many in the industry and so, you know, we see more interest but I would say it's still

  • It's still one of those areas where you know people have to get used to it. So I don't have an exact percentage today

  • I would say I expect it to grow as we go into

  • The second generation epoch compared to the first generation

  • But you know, the other thing about Rome is, you know, the the dual socket performance is just incredible as well

  • and so, you know, we think both single socket and dual socket will be will do well AMD as I talked about

  • Achieving a double-digit service CPU share within four to six quarters of achieving the mid single did share which I'm you believe you achieved that

  • by the end of 2018

  • Given how diverse the server CPU market is all the different types of customers and workloads there are there are particular market segments

  • Where you feel like AMD might be able to achieve say a 15 percent market share, you know in relative near future. Yeah, so

  • So as it relates to market share targets, I think we are

  • you know, we feel well positioned to

  • You know achieve those those targets that we previously talked about that would put you know

  • sort of the double-digit mark somewhere between sort of end of this year middle of next year and

  • A lot of work has to happen for that, but we feel good about that as it relates to you know

  • Look what I say is look 10% share is not a destination, right? It's a point in time and

  • There are segments where we think our market share will be substantially higher than that

  • we certainly think an HPC the value proposition is very very strong and we see that with

  • You know both

  • You know sort of all of sort of the HPC providers and we think in cloud

  • our value proposition is very very strong and I

  • Frankly, I think in enterprise. It's also quite strong. So it's really a matter of

  • Sort of time to market and time to ramp and

  • As I said earlier, I think

  • Cloud and HPC move a little bit faster than traditional enterprise

  • Rome will be launching about two years after AMD launched Naples at the same time aim DS I indicated

  • It's a next-gen epic platform a codenamed

  • Milan will be available around mid 2020 and

  • Intel for its parts that suggested it once launched new server CPU platforms once every four to five quarters

  • Does AMD have a target going forward regarding how frequently to launch new service API platforms, you know?

  • I think we we aim to be competitive. So if I if I put that stake in the ground

  • You know, I think you know whether it's four or five or six quarters

  • It's in that range, but we aim to be very competitive

  • You know, it's early right now

  • But are there any details AMD can share about a Millan's expected performance gains are relative to Rome any?

  • Like pretend what the potential improvements could be instructions per clock

  • Or in what particularly as you AMD especially wants to build on Rome's advances

  • Well, I think it's a little early to talk about details of Milan

  • What I will say is that our Xen three core design is complete. We like how it looks

  • We have plenty of ideas

  • our engineers have plenty of ideas populating Xen 3 and Zen 4 based on some of our learnings off of

  • Naples and Rome and so, you know, we'll continue to push the envelope but you know

  • We'll talk more about it as we get closer

  • Ok, those products, you know one desk was about graphics intensive workloads and particular things like cloud gaming virtual desktops

  • Amy has had some traction there. And obviously I'm AMD has you know

  • Large GPU business is aimed interesting and potentially are developing service ap use with integrating GPS

  • How great question look I first of all I think the market around

  • You know, we love all things gaming. So when you think about gaming you think about, you know PC gaming console gaming

  • You know cloud gaming. They're all

  • They all need very powerful graphics as well

  • As you know processor capability as it relates to, you know cloud gaming in particular

  • We have had some success with you know, Google and their stadia launch. I think we were engaged across the industry

  • I wouldn't I wouldn't count anything out, you know in terms. We already have integrated graphics on our

  • PC processors, you know in server. It's not so much whether it's integrated on the same chip that's important

  • What's really important is the connectivity between CPUs and GPUs?

  • And so, you know, we're very focused on our Infinity architecture and how do we ensure that that connectivity?

  • Is as efficient as it can possibly be earlier this year AMD announced deal with Cray

  • To supply cpus and gpus for the Department of Energy's Frontier supercomputer, and I thought it was interesting

  • You know that there's a that the CPU

  • Supercomputer will feature a nerds that contain one custom AMD CPU that's connected to four GPUs through the Infinity

  • Fabric is AMD. I'm open to offering something like that on an off-the-shelf basis rather than just on a custom basis

  • Yeah, so a great great point. So we're extremely proud of

  • The the frontier design win

  • I think it's one of those, you know, really big tough problems that you have to put your best innovation together

  • To make it happen and it is a customized, you know CPU and some custom GPU

  • Efforts for frontier to get to the you know over one and a half exa flops

  • I do think though you're gonna see many of those technologies

  • come into standard products, you know as we go forward, you know, our goal is to push the envelope in HPC and so

  • You know for you know general-purpose

  • HPC applications, you'll see some of those technologies come into play wouldn't ask about IMD's thoughts about time on 75 nanometers manufacturing process

  • I know you mentioned Milan will use 7 nanometre plus process

  • But TSMC will be a certain volume production for the 5 nm process in the first half of 2020

  • How is AMD broadly thinking about adopting 5 nanometer for example?

  • Would it node that I would first deploy for like pcs CPUs or GPUs rather than server CPUs?

  • Well, so we look at sort of technology intercepts very carefully, you know

  • We want to be early but not too early. You want to be make sure that you can do a volume ramp

  • We haven't talked in detail about our five nanometer plans just yet

  • I think you know tsmc is a great partner

  • We continue to work closely with them and you know, we'll talk more about you know, our future technology plans later on one ask

  • um a little bit about on AMD some like

  • Plans for addressing the enterprise market like Nvidia is you know enter the hardware space, you know, but there are a dgx supercomputers

  • They've created you know their own systems given that AMD's about this has but server CPUs and GPUs

  • Would it be open to like launching its own hardware systems and would have preferred to just work with OEM partners, you know

  • We work really closely with OEM and odm partners and that has been our go-to-market strategy

  • I think it's the right strategy, you know, we believe in this idea of an open ecosystem

  • so you get the best of the best and

  • You know we continue to work on how do we specify those systems?

  • So they take the best advantage of our hardware and ease wellness to support next-gen memory technologies

  • Like Intel's talked up its support for its opti next-gen or memory

  • It relies on 3d crosspoint and I'm not 3d crosspoint was co-developed with micron

  • Which on plans to launch its own?

  • Crosspoint product soon is that AMD like open to a partnering but the company like micron does support next gen memory

  • Yeah, so we are opening to partnering across the ecosystem

  • so especially in memory, you know, it's so important to bring memory closer to the CPU and

  • And we know that that's one of the key things, you know, we have a great partnership with you know micron

  • you know Samsung as well as Hynix and

  • You know, we think pushing the envelope on that connection between CPU and memory is very important going forward

  • Well the AMD be open to supporting something like HP avx-512 gone for well

  • so we did a tremendous amount of work around the floating point in Xen to so we actually you know

  • Sort of doubled our floating-point capability and then once you look at the number of cores

  • we've added we've actually

  • You know, the the the Rome architecture compared to Naples is about four times the floating-point

  • We're always gonna look at how do we keep pushing on floating-point? And

  • And that you know again, that's that's one of the mantras of leadership. Well nest like bad

  • IMD is a partnership with SCI links, you know

  • You've been partnering with them for a while a companies have a common competitor at Intel

  • Could you talk a little bit about them how you see that partnership?

  • potentially evolving and what types of workloads and customers you frequently see, I'm using both AMD CPUs and silences FPGAs

  • Yeah, so we are

  • Pleased with the partnership with Xilinx, I think the teams are very technically engaged and you know

  • Most importantly we want to make sure that the interoperability, you know, we're both

  • Pushing the edge on the interconnect and so on, you know PCI Gen 4

  • You know all these things we're very well aligned in terms of you know, early applications

  • Certainly, there are some cloud environments that are looking at, you know CPU plus FPGA environments

  • and so we have some joint engagements in that area, you know thinking about you know, how you know some of these

  • You know edge, you know computing applications, you know move forward, you know, we have some engagements in those areas as well

  • you know given that AMD's resources have been growling gum is

  • Investing more in software developers and and in like just a building out your engagements with third-party

  • developers an area of interest for the company

  • Totally if you look at where we're adding resources were just running adding a ton of resources and software and that software

  • Across let's call it, you know the basic

  • Yesterday driver stack which is really important for enablement as well. As you know software on, you know, libraries and

  • Also some of the machine learning frameworks, you know ensuring that tensorflow groundswell pi torch, you know, MX net

  • You know these guys so I think in our business, you know

  • The software is just so important to really enable the hardware one day. I asked also about Rome's Chinese adoption

  • Yeah

  • MD mention our during last week's earnings call that a

  • trade and tariff uncertainties in the US entities list or affecting its sales a little bit and

  • How do you see um, Rome's adoption within the Chinese market trending over the next few quarters? Yeah

  • So look

  • you know, certainly we're all very cognizant of what's going on between the US and China and some of the tensions, you know, there are

  • Several of our customers that are on the entities list and you know, we are not shipping to those customers

  • That being said there's a broad market in China. I think Rome is extraordinarily competitive

  • Whether again you're talking about, you know

  • Sort of cloud environments in the US or cloud environments in China as well as enterprise environments

  • And so we think Rome is gonna do well

  • Then wouldn't ask for a second about um, like interconnect technology

  • So I'm AM DS, you know, it's important a few different ones who support in C six

  • Supported open copy and then more recently supported C Excel, which is originally started by Enzo

  • What's Andy's views on how these technologies will be adopted going forward and how they'll coexist well

  • we feel really

  • you know, it's really important to ensure that the the

  • the interconnect is open so truly open and

  • And that means you know, no competitor has an advantage in a particular way

  • That being the case, you know, we are

  • You know as you as you mentioned fairly open across standards and you know, we continue to listen to you know

  • sort of our customers and what they want and what they want is to be able to connect you know the best CPU to the

  • best accelerator and so that requires us to

  • To adopt, you know, a few technologies your service cpu sales are grouped within the enterprise embedded and semi-custom segment

  • Which also covers AMD's game console processor sales?

  • Given how the server CPU business has been growing is AMD opened alike

  • Separately breaking out at sales or potentially putting them in a new reporting segment that also covers server and GPU sales

  • Yeah, so, you know, we we believe our segments reporting is you know

  • The the best way to do it right now for the company. We do try to provide additional color

  • I know there's a lot of interest around the data center

  • You know

  • I still consider ourselves very very early

  • in the adoption cycle for data center in both CPUs and GPUs

  • And so, you know, we all will constantly look at this as we go forward, but you know

  • We think these are the right reporting segments with the notion of we will give you no additional color

  • To try to help the investment community. All right, AMD hasn't historically bought many companies. But um, you know, its resources are growing

  • Um, you know, you can potentially finance a larger acquisition you want if you wanted to hit it with cash or stock

  • how does AMD feel about potentially using M&A to strengthen its data center position and

  • Offer like more platform level level solutions there. Yeah

  • So I think that it is definitely something that we look at and think about you know

  • We've done some a smaller scale M&A to acquire

  • You know

  • Mostly skills in recent years and those aren't things that you know we talk

  • You know in a big way about and I think as we go forward

  • you know as the balance sheet strengthens as the revenue grows as

  • you know we have

  • You know more capability, you know, we'll certainly look at M&A as as a way to accelerate the business. All right, and

  • My last question was about your future plans

  • So earlier this week is strongly denied a rumor about leaving for IBM and you've been AMD CEO for almost five years now

  • I guess my question would be on how long wouldn't you see yourself potentially staying at AMD and are there particular?

  • Long-term goals that you're looking to see through SMD CEO. Well, I can say for sure I'm staying at AMD

  • So look, I you know

  • one of the things that

  • That is really important to me is look we are still in the early innings of the AMD story

  • you know if you take a look at

  • How long it takes for a tech company to really complete a full cycle, you know, although I've been CEO for five years

  • we're just at the cusp of

  • Some incredibly competitive products and you know, I'd like to see us

  • Become one of the premier growth franchises in tech and you know, that means growing market share and servers and PCs in

  • Continuing to deepen our partnerships. So yeah, I have a lot to do

The cloud data centers are very important to us

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