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  • Jobs. Literally, the only reason that anyone gets up before 11am.

  • Politicians care about jobs more than anything else,

  • as you can tell from how often they mention them.

  • These are the things I focus on. Jobs, jobs, jobs--

  • Jobs, jobs, jobs.

  • Jobs, jobs, and jobs. Period.

  • -Jobs... jobs... jobs. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • It's about jobs, jobs, jobs. Good-paying jobs.

  • It's about jobs.

  • Jobs, jobs, jobs, and more jobs. American Jobs.

  • Politicians seem to think that jobs are like Beetlejuice.

  • If you just say the word a magic number of times,

  • eventually they'll just pop up out of nowhere.

  • Now, more specifically tonight, I'd like to talk about

  • one of the ways that politicians try to create jobs.

  • Economic development incentives.

  • And I know that that doesn't sound interesting.

  • Wait, wait, what are you doing?

  • You're putting me picture-in-picture?

  • Is that Entourage: The Movie?

  • Fine, you know what, switch over the audio,

  • listen to the first line. You'll be back.

  • I may have to jerk it before we even get there.

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -Oh! Oh, how about that?

  • All of a sudden, a show about economic development

  • doesn't seem like the worst thing

  • you could be watching, does it?

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -So... (CLEARS THROAT)

  • -As I was saying... -(AUDIENCE CHEERS)

  • Economic development incentives are essentially when state

  • and local governments offer perks to companies

  • to entice them to build or expand in their area.

  • Here in New York

  • there is a program called StartUp New York

  • which launched with some pretty astounding tax breaks.

  • AD ANNOUNCER: Start-Up New York creates zero tax zones

  • for new businesses for ten years.

  • Zero property tax, zero corporate tax,

  • zero business tax, and zero income tax.

  • Wow. Zero property, corporate, business, and income tax.

  • (SLIDE WHISTLE ASCENDING)

  • And I believe that that sound you just heard

  • was Donald Trump getting an erection.

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • Wait for it. Don't wor-- Wait for it...

  • -(SLIDE WHISTLE DESCENDING) -It's gone again.

  • -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) -See ya next year, little buddy.

  • And look, it's not just New York.

  • All 50 states offer some kind of incentives,

  • like tax-breaks to attract companies,

  • and the argument is, that they attract employers,

  • which attract jobs, which lead to spending,

  • which creates more jobs and so on, and so on, and so on,

  • and many places have bought into this, hard,

  • trying to outbid one another for businesses.

  • Indiana even once took out attack ads on other states,

  • like this billboard, which read, "Illinnoyed by higher taxes?

  • Come to Indiana, a state that works."

  • And that's pretty aggressive, although, it's actually much

  • tamer than their original billboard,

  • "Just Arkan-saw your tax bill?

  • Ida-hope you like our tax breaks.

  • Because if you Colora-don't,

  • we'll Conneti-cut your fucking balls off."

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • And if a company is big enough,

  • it can even start a bidding war itself.

  • That is actually happening right now, with Amazon.

  • They are planning to build a second headquarters

  • somewhere in North America

  • and they are making governments bid for it.

  • They even released eight pages of instructions for candidates

  • telling them to "think big and be creative,"

  • which led many cities to do stupid shit like this...

  • NEWS REPORTER 1: Overnight, the Big Apple

  • looking more like an orange.

  • New York City mayor, Bill de Blasio

  • lighting up the city in, quote, "Amazon orange."

  • The city of Birmingham is using giant Amazon boxes

  • to try to get Amazon's attention.

  • NEWS REPORTER 1: Stonecrest, Georgia offering to create

  • a new town of Amazon, Georgia.

  • They would create a new town and name it "Amazon."

  • You know, to compete, I'm not surprised

  • that Omaha, Nebraska didn't offer to let Jeff Bezos

  • kill any three people he likes.

  • 'Cause you know he would. Look at him, he wants it so bad.

  • It's the only thing he can't have and he wants it.

  • And numerous mayors made direct appeals to Amazon

  • with videos ending in versions of the same bad joke.

  • Hey Alexa, where should Amazon locate HQ2?

  • ALEXA: Hmm. In Frisco, Texas.

  • Alexa, where is the most interesting company

  • in the world gonna locate?

  • ALEXA: Obviously, Washington, DC.

  • So, Alexa, where is the best place

  • for Amazon to locate its second world headquarters?

  • ALEXA: Danbury, Connecticut.

  • I told ya so.

  • You know, my one and only worry with all of those ads,

  • and I mean this sincerely, is, are they almost too hilarious?

  • But those stunts are just window-dressing.

  • What Amazon cares much, much more about,

  • as they mentioned in their instructions 21 times,

  • are incentives.

  • And while few places are revealing what they offered,

  • we do know that New Jersey reportedly offered

  • seven billion dollars in tax breaks,

  • which is an insane amount that other places

  • may now have to compete with, and think about what that means.

  • That could mean billions of tax dollars

  • that would not be collected for things like roads,

  • or schools, or hospitals, and Amazon already has

  • more money than it knows what to do with.

  • How else could you explain the existence of Goliath?

  • A show that, and this is true, literally nobody has ever seen.

  • Nobody. No human. No animal. Nobody.

  • -Nobod-- No one. -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

  • Does it even exist?

  • If you make a show and no one watches it,

  • does it exist? Discuss.

  • And... And that is the thing here.

  • We give companies a lot of money through these incentives.

  • By one estimate, in 2015 they cost state

  • and local governments 45 billion dollars.

  • And that money can go to some questionable projects.

  • For instance, a few years ago,

  • Kentucky took a big swing on this...

  • A full-size replica of Noah's ark

  • is drawing thousands of visitors to Williamstown, Kentucky.

  • REPORTER 2: This is the Ark Encounter.

  • A chapter from Genesis told on a $100 million budget.

  • Four floors of Noah, his family,

  • and beasts great and small.

  • The project received $18 million in Kentucky tax incentives.

  • Eighteen million dollars

  • of tax breaks for a gigantic ark museum.

  • And I'm not saying that is inherently a bad idea,

  • I do kind of want to see this thing,

  • especially as its website genuinely has a section

  • devoted to the question, "What about all the manure?"

  • The answer, apparently, is,

  • "Slatted floors or multiple-level cages,"

  • which is really not a good answer,

  • 'cause you do not want to be the animal on the lowest level

  • of that ship.

  • And while the ark clearly created some jobs,

  • there were some caveats to those positions...

  • REPORTER 3: Critics complain of discrimination in hiring.

  • Only Christians, no gays or lesbians,

  • and single people have to sign a chastity pledge.

  • -(AUDIENCE GASPS) -Oh, come on!

  • Aside from the homophobia,

  • chastity is a pretty weird rule to put in place for a museum

  • that's pretty much a gigantic replica of a floating fuck-zoo.

  • They... they weren't brought in two by two

  • so that everyone would have a swim-buddy,

  • they were on that boat to fuck.

  • (AUDIENCE APPLAUDS, CHEERS)

  • To fuck!

  • But the justification

  • for taking a gamble on a gigantic ark,

  • was that it would be a boom to the whole area,

  • and to hear one local official tell it,

  • the economic impact has been underwhelming.

  • The ark's success has not had the ripple effect

  • many hoped it would.

  • REPORTER 4: Downtown Williamstown,

  • which was expecting increased car and foot traffic,

  • has almost as many empty store-fronts

  • as occupied store-fronts.

  • REPORTER 5: What's it meant for downtown Williamstown?

  • Nothing.

  • I don't wanna sound negative in this interview, but...

  • there's nothing here.

  • Yeah, and that kind of makes sense

  • because once you've spent three hours walking around

  • a wooden boat with sexually frustrated tour guides

  • and haunted by the mental image of a miserable zebra

  • neck deep in shit,

  • 'cause apparently decks were assigned alphabetically,

  • you're probably gonna skip lunch in town.

  • And look, a well-designed, closely monitored program

  • with clear goals might make sense to an area,

  • but too often the terms are extremely lax.

  • Some don't require that jobs be created at all,

  • and some require almost laughably few.

  • Remember StartUp New York? Zero taxes for a decade?...

  • -(SLIDE WHISTLE ASCENDING) -Oh shit, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

  • Don't think about it, I'm sure it will pass.

  • That program is hiring requirements--

  • That program's hiring requirements

  • were that you create just one new job a year,

  • and the state recently considered

  • scaling that back to one new job in the first five years.

  • And sometimes these incentives are given out

  • even when they may not be necessary.

  • Take a look at Fargo, North Dakota.

  • -(SLIDE WHISTLE DESCENDING) -You know what, he's not wrong.

  • He's not wrong and I knew that would do the job.

  • Fargo gave a tax break to FedEx

  • for moving a facility to their city, but why?

  • Did they really need to?

  • 'Cause just listen to what happened when one

  • city council member asked that very question

  • of a FedEx representative.

  • Mr. Wilson, if you don't get this exemption,

  • will you still move to Fargo?

  • -MR. WILSON: Yes, sir, we will. -Okay.

  • Yet, ten minutes later,

  • the council voted to give FedEx that exemption.

  • Why?

  • Also, if someone wants to willingly move to Fargo,

  • you don't offer them tax incentives,

  • you simply offer them a full psychological work-up

  • that starts with the question, "Who did you murder?

  • We'll still let you live here, but we do need to know."

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • And then... Then there are programs

  • narrowly set up to encourage a particular industry to grow.

  • Which can sound great, but may not lead

  • to good, permanent jobs. Take film and TV incentives.

  • At some point in the last couple of decades,

  • nearly every state decided that they wanted to be

  • the next Hollywood, and now, 31 states

  • have incentive programs for film or TV.

  • The problem with that is, if you are one of them,

  • you have 30 other states competing with you... hard.

  • And because film productions are portable,

  • if you try and scale back your incentives,

  • they'll just go wherever a better deal is.

  • Just listen to this movie producer

  • who has taken advantage of multiple states' incentives.

  • I would never make a movie where I didn't get an incentive,

  • and I don't ever intend to.

  • But at the end of the day, if there's an incentive...

  • it's good for me.

  • -And look... -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • He's not wrong, I mean yes,

  • he looks like every woman's worst ex-boyfriend,

  • but he's-- he's not wrong.

  • It is not his job to worry about whether his incentives

  • are good for the states.

  • It is his job to, I'm assuming, refer to sushi as "sush,"

  • because he definitely does that.

  • But it should be someone, someone's job,

  • to worry about the effect of these programs.

  • And on some occasions when states have done that,

  • the news they got was not great.

  • For instance, Louisiana found that

  • for every dollar it spent on its film program,

  • it generated just 22 cents of tax revenue.

  • Which sounds bad, but which is still better

  • than Maryland, which made just 10 cents

  • for every dollar spent, which is still better

  • than Connecticut's program, which returned only

  • seven cents on the dollar.

  • That's like putting a dollar into a vending machine,

  • and getting a single, yellow Starburst in return.

  • At some point, what you're getting out

  • is not worth what you're putting in.

  • And defenders of economic incentives will say,

  • that's just a fraction of the broader economic benefit

  • that they bring. The problem is,

  • there's not much evidence for that.

  • And I know that accounting for the total economic impact

  • of anything is tricky, but we are gambling

  • billions of dollars on little more than faith.

  • And even basic information can be really hard to come by.

  • One study found that three quarters

  • of major state development programs

  • don't even disclose actual jobs created or workers trained.

  • So, we're basically throwing money down a hole

  • and hoping it bring us prosperity,

  • which is the exact business model

  • of a fucking wishing well.

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • And to see this at perhaps it's most pointless,

  • just look at Kansas and Missouri.

  • They've offered competing tax breaks

  • to businesses for years.

  • Which has made things particularly interesting

  • in one metro area.

  • So, I'm in Kansas City, Missouri.

  • That's it behind me. Uh, there is Kansas City, Kansas.

  • Two states, one metro area, but those states offer subsidies

  • for job creation. Create a job, you get a tax break.

  • So, what do businesses do?

  • A Missouri business will move some employees

  • over to Kansas City, Kansas and claim a tax break,

  • move 'em back, claim another tax break.

  • It's true.

  • For instance, Kansas City, Missouri

  • lost corporate offices for all these companies

  • to Kansas City, Kansas which, in turn,

  • lost offices for all these companies

  • to Kansas City, Missouri. And that isn't creating jobs

  • any more than moving your couch from the bedroom

  • to the living room is creating fucking furniture.

  • And this war has come at a real cost.

  • A local foundation has studied

  • two state-level incentives programs

  • and estimates that since 2009, around 6,600 jobs

  • have moved from Missouri to Kansas.

  • While around 5, 500 jobs

  • have moved from Kansas to Missouri.

  • Meaning there's been a net-gain of around 1,100 jobs

  • on the Kansas side of the line and a combined cost

  • to the two states of $331 million

  • in lost tax revenue, and think about that for a second.

  • You could create a program where the first 1,100 people

  • to move from-- to Kansas City from Missouri

  • would each get a Ferrari which they could then

  • drive around a giant pile of $30 million

  • that the state had set on fire

  • and you'd actually be fiscally responsible,

  • because you would have saved the area $20 million.

  • Look, it is pretty clear that economic development

  • needs to be done in a much smarter way.

  • And I don't fully blame the companies for this.

  • Because if governments are going to offer

  • ridiculous incentives, they are going to take them.

  • So, governments need to hold themselves,

  • and companies, more accountable.

  • And if companies aren't producing what they promised,

  • we need a system to claw our money back.

  • But to find that out, we're going to need

  • much more oversight over these programs

  • and what we're getting in return.

  • Although, I will tell you

  • one thing that I know for sure we got in return,

  • the Entourage movie.

  • That got a $5.8 million tax credit from California

  • and where else were they going to film Entourage?

  • Idaho? So, California, please know

  • that you indirectly had a hand in producing a movie,

  • which, may I remind you,

  • had this, for it's very first line...

  • I may have to jerk it before we even get there.

  • You know what, I've got to say this,

  • "Congratulations, Kentucky Ark Museum,

  • because somehow, you've become the second worst

  • tax-payer subsidized fuck-boat in this story."

Jobs. Literally, the only reason that anyone gets up before 11am.

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