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This is the word of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Thank the Lord!
Brothers and sisters,
when the Lord Jesus came to do His work,
He expressed many truths, revealed many signs and wonders.
However, the chief priests, the scribes,
and the Pharisees of the Jewish faith didn't know the Lord.
They knew the words and work of the Lord Jesus were powerful,
and yet they spread rumors, condemning, and blaspheming the Lord,
claiming He relied on Beelzebub to cast out demons.
When more people had begun following the Lord Jesus,
it threatened their positions,
so they planned to get rid of Him.
The Pharisees are so hateful.
Unexpectedly, they partnered with the Roman government
to nail the Lord Jesus to the cross.
Wouldn't you say that the Pharisees were detestable?
I agreed. Of course. Yes.
These hypocritical Pharisees served God yet resisted God.
Shouldn't they suffer God's curse? (They should! Of course.)
If we'd been born when the Lord Jesus was doing His work,
we certainly would be His followers
and we wouldn't be like the Pharisees, nailing the Lord Jesus to the cross.
Pastor Gu, we've accepted the Lord Jesus,
so we aren't Pharisees, right?
Of course not!
Only the old leaders in the Jewish faith
who resisted and condemned the Lord Jesus are Pharisees.
We've all accepted the name of the Lord, baptized into faith,
and we received salvation by His grace,
so we are not Pharisees.
Oh, that makes sense, I see now.
Pastor Gu, it's not that simple,
it's just not that simple if believers in the Lord could become Pharisees.
See, in Revelation in the Bible,
there are a lot of prophecies that say:
Based on this,
I think that the Lord will return in the last days to utter more words.
The Lord Jesus once said,
If the Lord returns in the last days
and we condemn and resist Him,
wouldn't we also become Pharisees?
Let's really give some serious thought to this question that Brother Zhen has raised.
This question is worth looking into!
you believe the Lord will return to utter more words,
so you're concerned about whether or not
we'll be just like the Pharisees and not recognize Him,
and maybe even resist and condemn the Lord, correct?
You do not need to worry.
It's clear, the Lord Jesus' departure was to prepare a place for us,
and the return of the Lord will be to raise us into the kingdom of heaven. (Amen!)
How could it be that He would return and speak more?
In addition, when the Lord comes
He will descend upon a cloud and appear to all of mankind,
so who could not recognize Him? (Yes.)
How can you still not understand this?
Yes, Pastor Gu is right.
See, we've all believed in the Lord for a number of years
and worked very hard for Him.
When He returns,
we will directly be raised up into the kingdom of heaven.
There's absolutely no need to consider
whether or not we'll be able to recognize Him, or whether or not we'll be Pharisees.
These things aren't even worth considering.
Yeah! We don't need to consider that.
Brothers and sisters,
we're already in the last days,
and the prophecies of the Lord's return have basically been fulfilled.
So, the Lord Jesus will descend upon a cloud at any moment
to raise us up into God's kingdom. (Amen!)
At this critical moment,
we must keep watch and pray,
work harder for the Lord, and be His dedicated servants. (Amen! Right!)
And when the Lord returns we'll be rewarded and raised up into God's kingdom.
As Paul said,
Thank the Lord!
Thank the Lord!
I've served the Lord for decades and I've suffered no small amount.
Particularly when I was imprisoned for the sake of the Lord for more than ten years.
At that time,
the CCP police would often try to force me to sign written repentances,
but I wouldn't do it.
I couldn't betray the Lord! (Yeah.)
As a result, they tortured me very cruelly, putting me on the brink of death!
It's too terrifying.
The CCP prisons really are a living hell!
Without the care and protection of the Lord,
I'm afraid I would've died in prison long ago.
The faith of Pastor Gu is great!
It is! This really is the protection of the Lord!
It really is so!
But you see I don't have any regrets or complaints about my suffering for the Lord.
This was His grace and it was His blessing for me. (Amen!)
And that is because the more we suffer for the Lord,
the greater our reward will be, (Amen!)
and just like Paul,
we may gain a crown of righteousness bestowed by the Lord. (Amen!)
Would everyone say that's true? (It is!)
This is true.
The witness of Pastor Gu is very good!
Pastor Gu has suffered so much,
he'll surely receive great rewards!
Yeah, Pastor Gu really is a dedicated servant to the Lord.
We must follow his example!
Thanks be to the Lord!
Pastor Gu has led us to believe in the Lord, this truly is our good fortune!
It is! We are so fortunate.
Thanks be to the Lord! Thanks be to God!
Why do you think Pastor Gu talks about those experiences every day?
I'm sick of hearing about them.
Pastor Gu always talks about what he's suffered. (Yeah.)
Why doesn't he share his experiences of putting the Lord's words into practice? (Yeah!)
I've been wondering a lot lately,
if someone suffers,
is that enough to guarantee
that they will enter the kingdom of heaven at the Lord's return?
Hey, why do you think there are so many people now who have accepted Eastern Lightning?
So many people have accepted Eastern Lightning,
what do you think that's really about?
I really can't make heads or tails of it!
We've been waiting for the return of the Lord,
but we haven't seen the Lord descending upon a cloud, (Yeah.)
but Eastern Lightning has appeared.
They say the Lord Jesus has already returned,
and that He is Almighty God incarnate.
This is truly beyond our imaginings.
Yes, it really is!
The appearance of this Eastern Lightning has shaken up the entire religious world,
and in every denomination, in every sect there have been many
who have accepted Eastern Lightning after hearing the words of Almighty God.
They all bear witness,
saying they heard the voice of God and have been raptured.
A lot of pastors and elders have started to condemn Eastern Lightning.
They are trying to seal off and control the church.
Even the CCP is arresting people from Eastern Lightning,
not only has Eastern Lightning not been defeated,
but it has flourished.
In my heart,
I feel Eastern Lightning may have the work of the Holy Spirit.
The work of the Holy Spirit?
Brother Zhen, this reminds me of what the Lord Jesus prophesied,
Do you think the appearance of Eastern Lightning
has to do with this prophecy of the Lord Jesus?
I really haven't thought about that.
Could Eastern Lightning really be the appearance and the work of the Lord Jesus?
We have to think about this carefully.
Eastern Lightning says the Lord Jesus has returned,
and that He is Almighty God incarnate.
That's absolutely impossible.
The Lord Jesus specifically prophesied,
So I am certain when the Lord God returns
He will descend upon a cloud, and all will see Him.
If Eastern Lightning says the Lord has returned,
how have we not seen Him?
So, I am certain,
all those who bear witness to the arrival of God incarnate of the last days are fraudulent.
They are heretics.
I tell you, we must not believe them!
Pastor Gu, that can't be right.
If Eastern Lightning doesn't possess the truth,
if it's not the work and appearance of the Lord,
how could it conquer so many good sheep, leading sheep? (Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.)
I've been thinking about this constantly.
I think it's quite possible that
Eastern Lightning is the work and appearance of the Lord Jesus.
We should seek and study it!
Oh, I don't think that's necessary.
We should wait for the coming of the Lord according to the Bible.
Eastern Lightning says the Lord Jesus has already returned,
has expressed many truths,
and has done the work of judgment of the last days.
What was prophesied in the Bible?
Why haven't I seen it?
I dare say Eastern Lightning cannot possibly be the work of the Lord.
We should firmly believe that God's words and work are all within the Bible,
and anything beyond that is heresy.
Eastern Lightning is stealing sheep all over the place now,
so we must be vigilant and strictly guard against them!
We must strictly guard against them!
Has anyone from our church accepted Eastern Lightning recently?
Um … not right now.
Yeah, not that I know of.
Ah, that's good!
Thanks be to the Lord!
Pastor Gu, I have bad news!
What is it? Tell me slowly!
Brother Yang from Chengbei church
led over 30 brothers and sisters to accept Eastern Lightning!
Brother Yang understands the Bible so well, it doesn't make any sense.
How could he believe in Eastern Lightning?
That's right, if Brother Yang can accept Eastern Lightning,
this is no simple matter!
Oh! He certainly only accepted it after examining it repeatedly.
The preaching of this Eastern Lightning must really be formidable!
Uh, Pastor Gu, what do you say we should do now?
We need to think of a solution.
I've got it. Elder Wang,
hurry up and take a few co-workers to Chengbei Church,
and no matter what, you must persuade them to come back.
Okay, I'll go now.
They certainly have copies of Eastern Lightning's book.
You have to confiscate them all,
and oust anyone who won't cooperate!
Okay, got it!
Brother Liu, let's go, we're going to Yang Ming'en's home.
I've learned so much during these few days!
Yes, thanks be to Almighty God! (Thanks be to God!)
Let's all continue. (Okay!)
That sounds like it's someone from our church.
I'll go take a look.
Who would come so late? (Yes.)
Pastor Gu, Brother Liu, you've come.
It's so late, why are they here?
Everyone is here?
Oh, Pastor Gu, Brother Liu, you're here.
You are all important co-workers of the church.
How could you accept Eastern Lightning?
Ah, come on, let's sit down and chat!
Come on, sit down, let's have a chat.
Brothers and sisters,
if Eastern Lightning were the true way,
wouldn't Pastor Gu have accepted it long ago?
Could you really have better judgment than Pastor Gu?
Come on, have some water!
Have some water first!
Pastor Gu, Brother Liu,
uh … over this period,
we've heard the witness of people from The Church of Almighty God,
and we've read quite a bit of the words of Almighty God.
We've discovered the words of Almighty God are all truth,
and they've revealed many mysteries.
Right, this is true.
I feel that I have gained a great deal! (That's right.)
We've understood many truths that we never could understand from the Bible.
I know in my heart the words of Almighty God are the voice of God, (Amen!)
and Almighty God is the return of the Lord Jesus!
Pastor Gu, it's perfect that the two of you have come today.
Let's commune together. (That's right, please join us.)
You've served the Lord for years,
and you understand the Bible.
I never thought you would accept Eastern Lightning.
The Lord Jesus clearly stated that when He returned,
He would descend on a white cloud and rapture believers.
If the Lord had truly returned,
why haven't we been raptured?
Their witness is clearly not in line with the prophecies of Lord Jesus!
This proves that Eastern Lightning
cannot possibly be the work of the appearance of the Lord Jesus.
You really still don't see that?
I advise you to give up Eastern Lightning,
confess your sins and repent.
Yeah, if the Lord Jesus had already returned,
then why haven't we all been raptured?
Who has seen the Lord Jesus descending upon a white cloud?
And who has been raptured up into the clouds into the sky?
No one has.
So that proves that the Lord Jesus has not returned.
Isn't this clear?
Pastor Gu, Brother Liu,
there are many prophecies in the Bible about the return of the Lord Jesus!
Why do you only hold on to the prophecy of the Lord descending on a cloud,
but you don't look at His other prophecies?
The Lord Jesus also said:
according to the prophecies of the Lord Jesus,
the Lord will secretly descend to the earth in the last days and utter words.
Only those who hear God's voice and go out to welcome Him will be the wise virgins,
only they will be raptured in front of God's throne
and will feast with the Lord! (Amen!)
you've certainly read these prophecies of the Lord coming in secret, many times.
Why are you picking and choosing the words of the Lord?
Why do you say anyone who isn't the Lord Jesus descending on a cloud is a false Christ?
You do not seek to hear the voice of God,
and even though there are people who bear witness
that the Lord Jesus has returned and uttered words, you don't seek or examine it.
Isn't this becoming a foolish virgin?
Is waiting for the coming of the Lord this way in line with His will?
Hey, Brother Yang, what do you mean by that?
You mean that we're foolish virgins?
Hey, Brother Liu, have a seat.
Let Brother Yang continue.
Yes, have a seat!
God has become flesh in the last days, expressed the truth,
and done His work of judgment beginning with the house of God.
Many people from every denomination,
longing for the appearance of God have read the words of Almighty God
and have all recognized God's voice;
thus, they've all accepted the work of Almighty God in the last days.
These people are wise virgins,
and they've been raised up in front of God's throne, feasting with the Lord.
They will be made overcomers by God before the calamity.
Yes! Thanks be to God!
Pastor Gu, Brother Liu,
come read the words of Almighty God and study His work in the last days!
Yes, study it!
You can only know if Almighty God is the return of the Lord Jesus
by reading the words of Almighty God!
you say that when the Lord returns He will descend in secret,
and then descend in public upon a cloud.
This is in line with the Bible,
but Eastern Lightning bears witness to the work of the Lord
who has come in secret, which I've not seen.
All I've seen is that pastors and elders
from the religious world have condemned Eastern Lightning.
This shows that Eastern Lightning can't possibly
be the work of the appearance of the Lord Jesus. (Yes.)
If the Lord truly had returned,
how could the pastors and elders of the religious world not know?
Just think, they all are servants of the Lord.
Would the Lord in His wisdom really cast aside all those pastors and elders?
I do not think that is possible.
So, we will wait for the Lord to descend on a cloud and rapture us into the kingdom of heaven.
That certainly cannot fail.
I advise you to repent to the Lord so that He won't cast you out. (Yes.)
Pastor Gu, when the Lord Jesus appeared and worked,
who was it that resisted and condemned Him,
and nailed Him to the cross?
Wasn't it the chief priests, the scribes,
and the Pharisees of the Jewish faith? (That's right!)
This is certainly worth considering.
We can't take the path of the Pharisees! (Yeah.)
Yes, Pastor Gu,
if you don't examine Eastern Lightning
and follow the religious world in resisting and condemning it,
this is an offense to God!
Yes, Pastor Gu,
why don't you first read a bit of the words of Almighty God?
See if His words are the truth or not,
if it's God's voice or not,
and then express your opinion.
Only thus will you receive protection and not offend God. (Yes.)
You should examine it, don't just carelessly condemn it.
If you nail God to the cross again,
that would be a great sin!
The Lord's words are all in the Bible.
Brothers and sisters, we've believed in the Lord for so long …
Their witness of Almighty God is in line with the prophecies of the Bible.
Is He actually the appearance of the Lord Jesus?
I … I don't think that's possible.
But what if He truly is the appearance of the Lord Jesus?
Should I accept Him or not?
If I accept, the church would certainly expel me,
and then I couldn't be a pastor anymore.
Then my position, my living would be gone!
And the religious world …
and the religious world would also reject me.
Wouldn't all these years of believing in the Lord have been in vain?
Being a pastor and having a position is great.
There's no need to look into Eastern Lightning.
I never thought that
Yang Ming'en and the others would be so resolute
after accepting Eastern Lightning for just a couple of days.
No matter what I say I can't get them to change their minds.
Their words are all logical. It truly has a basis.
What they say is in line with the Bible,
and there's really no way to refute it!
Recently, I went to Chengbei church a few more times.
I advised them to give up Eastern Lightning and return soon,
but no one listened to me.
Oh, and their rebuttals even left me speechless.
From now on I'll really be experienced,
once anyone accepts Eastern Lightning
and has read the book The Word Appears in the Flesh,
they couldn't be pulled back even by ten oxen.
Ah, this Eastern Lightning really is formidable!
It hasn't been that long, and look,
more than a hundred people have accepted Eastern Lightning.
If things continue like this,
it won't take long before all our good sheep in our church have been stolen by them.
We must think of a solution soon.
We have to find a way out. Yes.
I really don't get it.
Every time we preach,
we talk about how to resist Eastern Lightning,
but why can't we keep our brothers and sisters from accepting it?
There's the saying,
"Know the enemy and know yourself
and you can win a hundred battles."
This is an Eastern Lightning book confiscated from brothers and sisters.
We must really delve into this book The Word Appears in the Flesh.
We need to find holes in these words
and then condemn it based on the words in the Bible.
This way we can refute Eastern Lightning,
rescue our brothers and sisters, and keep the church alive.
Pastor Gu has a solution!
Yes, that's a great solution! (Yes.)
It seems that we really have to put effort into studying Eastern Lightning.
Come, let's listen carefully! (Okay.)
Oh, Pastor Gu, it … it doesn't sound like there's anything wrong with that.
No, let's try again!
These aren't words an average person could say,
and there's no fault to be found with it.
There's nothing wrong with it!
These words sound really new,
I've never heard them before.
Come on, I don't believe that we can't find any fault.
Will have ended?
Uh … why aren't you reading anymore?
I really can't find anything to refute in these words.
as I see it, what's said in this book is all correct,
there aren't any problems.
These words truly are something that could not be spoken by an average person.
No wonder so many people accept Eastern Lightning after reading this,
and are bearing witness everywhere that the words of Almighty God are the voice of God,
the expression of God.
This is the source of it after all!
It seems that we must think of a way
to limit our brothers and sisters reading the Eastern Lightning book!
Then … then we must continue our research. (Yeah.)
I … I'll keep reading.
This is so true!
The words of Almighty God truly are formidable;
they really are like a double-edged sword.
Anyone who reads them has to be convinced!
It seems that finding fault with the words of Almighty God is not a viable maneuver.
I never thought that the words of Almighty God would be so powerful.
No wonder so many people accepted Eastern Lightning
after reading the words of Almighty God.
I've also heard that
not only are the people from Eastern Lightning
spreading The Word Appears in the Flesh by Almighty God,
but they are also having people watch evangelical films!
And it's not only that,
they also have a channel of choral works, music videos,
and all kinds of other videos!
Yeah, it's true.
A lot of brothers and sisters have started looking into it
after watching Eastern Lightning movies.
Just a couple of days ago,
I confiscated a memory card from a brother
and there were Eastern Lightning movies on it.
When I opened them up to see,
what I saw was astonishing.
What was it?
In the movie, the truth that they shared in fellowship was really clear.
So … what all did they say?
Yeah, tell us what they said.
They dissected the truth about the CCP, the devil, resisting God,
and exposed the Pharisee-like essence of the resistance to God
by the pastors and elders of the religious world,
and condemned that
all those pastors and elders who resist Almighty God
are false shepherds and servants of evil.
How can they say that?
If the brothers and sisters watch these films,
who will still listen to us?
That's right. Could happen.
When that time comes, the consequences will be unthinkable.
Then how should we rectify this?
How can we keep our church alive?
That's right, think of a solution quickly.
This really isn't easy to deal with.
Resisting Eastern Lightning this way hasn't been very effective.
Quite a few good sheep, head sheep have been stolen by them.
The Church of Almighty God has grown so quickly,
and even though the CCP government has been arresting them,
they haven't put a stop to them.
What other recourse could we have?
Can we stop them?
We have to try.
If we fail, we can work with the CCP.
When we find people who are preaching Eastern Lightning
we can call the police
and the police can arrest them all.
This way our church can be kept alive!
You can't do that!
When it comes to how to deal with Eastern Lightning,
we should be very cautious, and we can't go overboard!
If we take that path until the end it will be problematic.
Sister Han, how do you think this should be handled? (Yes.)
Sister Han, take a seat and chat.
You've been blocking brothers and sisters from accepting Eastern Lightning,
and you always say that you're afraid that they will be duped.
Doing things that way is not appropriate.
Didn't the Lord Jesus say,
"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me" (John 10:27)?
With that, He was telling us that it is the sheep of the Lord
who can hear and understand Him.
I'd say that
we should take The Word Appears in the Flesh expressed by Almighty God
and allow our brothers and sisters to have a look at it,
to see if these words really are the truth,
and if they are the voice of God.
If Eastern Lightning really is the Lord Jesus' appearance and work,
then we can meet the Lord,
and if it's not true, then we've gained some discernment.
Wouldn't that be wonderful?
How can that be good?
If we do what you said,
if we give the book The Word Appears in the Flesh to everyone in the church,
it would be awful.
Wouldn't they all start to believe in Almighty God?
Who would I be pastor to?
I … wouldn't I just become a general without an army?
Why don't you give some thought to me?
You're afraid of being a general without an army,
aren't you afraid of resisting the Lord and going to hell?
Look at you!
Do you think you can be a pastor for the rest of your life?
And if Eastern Lightning is the work of the appearance of the Lord
and you resist in this way, you will certainly be punished.
Oh … Sister Han, the main point now is that
the words of Eastern Lightning really are powerful.
You say you want to let all brothers and sisters
read the book The Word Appears in the Flesh,
then our church will certainly have to close its door!
In my view, we should listen to Pastor Gu.
It can't be wrong!
Ah, no matter what …
Fine, fine. Go pour some water!
Pastor Gu, Elder Wang, what should we do next?
This is what we should do.
Brothers and sisters,
Eastern Lightning has rocked the entire religious world.
There have been many good sheep from various denominations and sects
who've come to believe in Eastern Lightning
because they've read the book The Word Appears in the Flesh.
If we don't strictly seal off the church,
and we allow everyone to look into Eastern Lightning,
and read the words of Almighty God,
I fear most people will believe in Almighty God.
Then won't the church collapse?
Who will we shepherd?
I have gathered everyone here today in order to think of a solution,
to try to keep the church alive, protect our flock,
and have our brothers and sisters thoroughly reject Eastern Lightning.
Please speak up with any ideas or suggestions you may have.
I actually have a solution.
We all know the 5/28 Shandong Zhaoyuan case.
This case rocked the country.
I downloaded a report of that case from the Chinese Communist Party.
The CCP says these murderers were believers in The Church of Almighty God,
so we should make full use of this case
and create some other incidences to add in;
the more frightening, the better.
And we can create a booklet to distribute to our brothers and sisters
and talk about it every gathering so that they all keep that in mind.
As soon as they hear about Eastern Lightning they'll be afraid.
Humph! We'll see who still dares to believe in Eastern Lightning!
This is a good plan.
Right now, there are people among nonbelievers and the religious world
who believe the government's condemnation of Eastern Lightning.
If we spread the cases we fabricate to various online forums,
even if they're rumors, many people will believe it.
They'll think it's true if there are many rumors.
As it's said, "A lie will become the truth if it's repeated ten thousand times."
Yes, we should have done this long ago! (Right.)
I don't understand. It shouldn't be that way.
Pastor Gu, Brother Liu,
I don't object to preserving the church,
but utilizing a falsified and unjust case from the CCP to condemn Eastern Lightning—
The CCP is atheist,
and they are a satanic regime that hates and resists God.
Since this evil party has been in power,
it has continued to brutally suppress religious beliefs.
And in order to suppress house churches,
they've not only arrested many Christians,
but have ruined countless Christians' homes.
And in particular, when they see a church spreading the gospel
and bearing witness for God,
they wantonly suppress it.
These are facts that everyone can see!
No matter what ethnic minority or religious group the CCP oppresses,
first they manufacture public opinions, fabricate rumors, create false cases,
and then they implement their crazy suppression.
This is a textbook tactic.
That really is true!
Eastern Lightning witnessed that the Lord Jesus returned in China.
Almighty God has appeared in the last days
and is carrying out His work of judgment.
This is not a simple matter.
How could the CCP let go of Eastern Lightning?
The Party's resistance of God is ten times, a hundred times crueler than Ancient Rome.
When Christ of the last days appears in China,
the Party will certainly use its nation-wide power to persecute.
This is natural.
That's certainly what the Chinese Communist government would do.
As for the 5/28 Shandong Zhaoyuan case,
there are too many holes.
The government claims the murderers were believers in The Church of Almighty God,
but when the court held a public trial,
the murderers denied belonging to The Church of Almighty God.
They said, "I never had contact with The Church of Almighty God."
Why would you say
that the Party would insist on labeling them as members of The Church of Almighty God?
It's clear this was a ruse!
Anyone with their eyes open can see this was certainly a rumor
created by the government to openly repress Eastern Lightning.
I agree with Sister Zheng's viewpoint.
if you spread the Chinese Communist Party's rumors,
isn't that complicit with the framing of The Church of Almighty God?
That would be bearing false witness,
something condemned by God!
One of God's commandments says,
The government creates rumors and falsifies facts to build a case against Eastern Lightning.
This is determined by its demonic nature of hating and resisting God.
If you cooperate with the CCP and spread lies about Eastern Lightning,
then this breaks the Lord's commandments.
If Eastern Lightning really is the work of the Lord,
then you, too, will resist God,
just like the Pharisees who resisted and condemned the Lord Jesus.
That is a problem.
Blaspheming the Holy Spirit
is an unforgivable sin in this life or in the afterlife.
You know that.
Who could take on that sin?
That's right, it's really terrible.
both of us have been imprisoned by the Communist Chinese government
because of our belief in the Lord.
We saw through the evil essence of them long ago.
I really can't understand,
how you can still stand on the side of the Chinese Communist Party
by slandering The Church of Almighty God?
Do you really understand The Church of Almighty God?
How much of the word of Almighty God have you read?
You dare to recklessly resist and condemn Almighty God?
If Eastern Lightning really is the work of the appearance of the Lord Jesus,
you will suffer the unthinkable consequences of God's curse
just like the Pharisees.
If it really is the return of the Lord,
the consequences would be serious!
Oh, it's fine, don't worry.
The CCP is an evil atheist party—
I know this in my heart.
The Party created rumors to slander The Church of Almighty God
out of fear that the public will start to believe in God.
But we're not like the CCP. We are different.
We are making use of the 5/28 Shandong Zhaoyuan case to resist Eastern Lightning,
but only to protect the church, to protect the flock.
Our hands are tied!
I haven't really looked into Eastern Lightning,
I haven't read much of Almighty God's words.
But the government and many religious leaders condemn Eastern Lightning.
This is not a coincidence.
It's just not possible that Eastern Lightning is the true way.
If Eastern Lightning is the work of the appearance of the Lord,
and our resistance is a sin,
then that sin is on me,
not on our brothers and sisters!
Why are those words like the voice of the Pharisees?
how could Pastor Gu say something like that?
Eastern Lightning is stealing treasures from every sect and denomination.
Many good sheep and leading sheep have been taken.
I can't accept it;
I cannot bear it!
Otherwise, how else do we resist Eastern Lightning?
To be honest,
I'm not willing to casually condemn a religious group, either.
After all, I am a religious pastor!
have you ever thought about this:
The appearance of Eastern Lightning has shaken the entire religious world,
it bears witness spectacularly to the return of the Lord Jesus,
who is doing the work of judgment starting with the house of God,
and it has been accepted by many good sheep from various denominations and sects?
Do you think this is a simple thing?
If Eastern Lightning doesn't possess the truth,
if it doesn't have the work of the Holy Spirit,
how could it conquer those who genuinely believe in God?
The CCP, the pastors, and the elders of the religious world
have suppressed Eastern Lightning so much,
but why has The Church of Almighty God flourished,
as if no force can hinder it?
This question is worthy of our serious consideration!
What Sister Wang said is very reasonable!
Ah, Sister Fang, you sharing with us
makes me think of what Gamaliel, the teacher of the law from the Bible, said,
The government and leaders of various denominations
are all crazily condemning The Church of Almighty God,
but there are more people who accept Almighty God.
Only that which is of God will prosper.
I feel that Eastern Lightning comes from God.
So, when dealing with Eastern Lightning,
we should be cautious
and look to the Lord so that we do not resist God!
This is not something to be trifled with! (Yes.)
Sister Zheng, I don't like what you're saying.
How could condemning Eastern Lightning be resisting God?
I've heard from the CCP
that Almighty God is just an average person,
and even though He has uttered many words,
He hasn't performed any miracles,
so how could that be the work of God?
It is only the Lord Jesus that is God in the flesh,
He is the Christ. (Yes!)
If the Lord Jesus were to return,
it will be in a form of Jewish person,
and He would still be called the Lord Jesus. (Amen!)
He wouldn't have a different name.
So, I dare say that the Almighty God
that Eastern Lightning bears witness to is just a person,
and can't possibly be the appearance of God!
You say the Almighty God that Eastern Lightning bears witness to is just a person,
so why do so many say He is Christ and the appearance of God?
And Almighty God has uttered so many words!
As I see it, this really is not a simple matter.
If Almighty God is just a person,
or if He is Christ incarnate,
I really can't make heads or tails of this.
How can you not understand this?
If Eastern Lightning really were the appearance of God,
would they really be stealing sheep from every sect?
Some say the Lord will return like a thief and will steal treasures and good sheep.
I think that's not possible.
If He really had returned,
we should've already been raptured.
So as I see it, Eastern Lightning is not the true way.
The government, many pastors and elders in the religious world say
The Church of Almighty God just believes in a person,
and that can't be mistaken.
So, we can be sure that Eastern Lightning is heretical,
and what we are condemning is a person,
and not God!
What is there to fear in that?!
Neither Pastor Gu nor Elder Wang has looked into Eastern Lightning,
but they condemn it this way—it's not right!
Pastor Gu, Elder Wang,
you say The Church of Almighty God believes in just a person,
and not God in the flesh,
but I think that saying is premature.
These last few years,
we have resisted Eastern Lightning along with the pastors and elders of the religious world,
but to be frank,
none of us has truly examined the work of Almighty God in the last days,
nor have we invited anyone from The Church of Almighty God
to come to our church to bear witness to Almighty God.
We've just listened to the government's frantic slandering of The Church of Almighty God,
and casually accepted that
The Church of Almighty God believes in just an average person.
This is not entirely fair!
When the Lord Jesus appeared and started working,
wasn't it the case that the Pharisees didn't examine the words of the Lord Jesus,
but they just blindly resisted and condemned Him?
And what was the result?
They were all punished by God.
As for whether Eastern Lightning Church actually believes in a person,
or in God in the flesh,
we cannot just blindly pass judgment.
We really should see if the words
uttered by Almighty God really are the voice of God.
This is critical.
Yes, I agree with Brother Zhen's viewpoint.
We should read the words of Almighty God.
That way we'll know if His words are the voice of God or not.
Right, and that way we'll know how we should deal with Eastern Lightning.
I think that what Brother Zhen said makes sense!
Making sense is one thing,
but the pastors and elders are not allowing us to read the words of Almighty God.
We don't need to take it so seriously!
The pastors and elders all condemn Eastern Lightning.
The words of Almighty God certainly are not the voice of God—
they can't possibly come from God.
As for how to deal with Eastern Lightning,
we've followed the pastors and elders in the religious world,
but we've actually
overlooked that Eastern Lightning really conforms to the prophecy of the Lord Jesus:
They dare to bear witness that Eastern Lightning is the appearance of the Lord Jesus,
and they certainly have a basis for that.
Since so many people bear witness to that,
are they all idiots; are they fools?
Have they been bewitched?
I don't think that's possible!
And so many good sheep of the religious world have accepted it—
they all understand the Bible,
thus, Eastern Lightning definitely possesses the work of the Holy Spirit,
and the words of Almighty God possess the truth.
This is certainly a reasonable thing to say!
Pastor Gu, Elder Wang,
since you haven't read much of Almighty God's words
or truly looked into His work,
how can you judge?
Was not the Lord Jesus also a regular person?
And why do so many believe in Him now?
It's because the Lord Jesus is God in the flesh.
If Almighty God really is God incarnate
and you're condemning Him,
wouldn't it also be condemning God?
The Pharisees made that mistake and were subject to God's curse.
you've said all of this with such certainty.
Have you accepted Eastern Lightning?
Put your cards on the table.
Have you really accepted Eastern Lightning or not?
To be honest, I haven't accepted Eastern Lightning.
I'm looking into it now.
If I'd really accepted Eastern Lightning,
then I have to bear witness to Almighty God to all of you, right?
That's called "charity begins at home"!
Brother Zhen, aren't pastors and elders better judges than us?
They, along with the CCP, all condemn Eastern Lightning now.
Are they all wrong?
If you've truly accepted Eastern Lightning, we're enemies!
Oh, and so what if I have?
That is my own freedom.
What right do you have to restrict that?
If you've really accepted it I'll report it to the police.
Do you believe it or not?
How could he say this?
Do that, and you are a Pharisee, a treacherous Judas,
don't you know that?
Hey, that's enough!
Let it go, we're all brothers in the Lord.
Besides, Brother Zhen hasn't accepted it.
If he had that'd be another matter,
but since he hasn't he's still our brother.
Please sit down.
That's right, calm down.
Have a seat.
Eastern Lightning bears witness that Almighty God is God incarnate.
That's not in the Bible.
Even if Eastern Lightning is the true way I will not accept it—
that's what I think.
To tell the truth,
I've heard people from The Church of Almighty God bear witness,
and the truth they share is profound,
but they can't steal our sheep. (Yes.)
I object to them stealing our sheep.
Stealing away so many of our good sheep, our leading sheep—
how could I not hate them?
If they continue to do that, I'll call the police!
I will. I'll do it!
Yes, that's right. Must be done.
Is this not to be Judas?
Elder Wang, we don't accept it, then no matter,
but calling the police to arrest and handing over believers in God to the CCP
is doing evil!
How can they be united with the CCP? This defies God!
No matter what anyone says,
Eastern Lightning has stolen many good sheep and leading sheep from our church.
It's a fact. (It's true!)
How couldn't I have a good understanding of what Eastern Lightning is?
I've read the book The Word Appears in the Flesh,
but just one part of it.
Those words really are reasonable,
and they're not something that an average person could say.
But the government has reported
The Church of Almighty God believes in an ordinary person,