字幕表 動画を再生する 英語字幕をプリント In this episode of MarieTV we do have some adult language. So if you have little ones around, grab your headphones now. Hey there, it's Marie Forleo and you are watching MarieTV. The place to be to create a business and life you love. Now, if you've ever wondered how you can take all your passions and your gifts and your skills, and create a thriving and world-changing career, you are gonna love today's guest. Franchesca Ramsey is an actress, comedian, and video blogger with over 29 million views on YouTube and over half a million followers across Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. Her videos have been featured on MTV, the New York Times, and the BBC. In 2012, “Shit White Girls Say to Black Girls” was viewed 5 million times in five days, garnering coverage on MSNBC, ABC, and Anderson Cooper. Most recently Francesca worked as a writer and contributor for the nightly show with Larry Wilmore on Comedy Central and as the host of the MTV web series Decoded. Franchesca! Yay! So damn happy to have you here. I'm so excited. I've been such a fan of yours for such a long time. That makes me thrilled. Back in the brick wall days. See, this is… Old school. Old school. And we can even go like further back from the brick wall – my ass was jumping around on my couch. Oh, I remember those. Like, being so silly. Yeah. We still do it now, we just do it like green screen and other stuff. Oh, yay. So, you know, you are brilliant in so many ways and we have so many good things to talk about. But I want to take it back to what inspired you. I know you were blogging in middle school and then you got on YouTube. What was the impulse to start creating, to start sharing, to start putting stuff out online? I am very much an only child. And so I think when you don't have siblings, you need to find ways to entertain yourself, and the computer was really that for me. And I always wanted to be an actor, I was always interested in the arts and media, and so the internet was really a great place for me to combine my interest in technology and also creating content and media. And as someone that was just struggling to get acting work, YouTube was a really great place for me for that reason. So your initial idea was “actor.” Yeah, actor and also like beauty. So when I started – I've had locs for 14 years and it's really exciting because now the natural hair space is so, you know, vibrant. There's so many places that you can find things, stores you can buy products for natural hair. But when I started there – it just did not exist. And so I was looking for help with my hair and I couldn't find it, so I started making videos about my hair. But they were funny because that's like my personality, and so I started expanding into more characters and sketch and really just making things that I felt needed to be in the world. Was it ever – like when you were thinking about comedy, like did you have training in that or was that just your natural personality? I went to school for acting. I went to a performing arts middle and high school and then I went to University of Michigan for acting, and then I transferred schools and studied graphic design. But then I did stand-up for about four years before I got really serious about YouTube. I like to go to bed early and so stand-up shows always start super late. I was like, “Do you guys have anything at like 3:00 or like mornings?” And they don't. So I was like I'm not gonna do this anymore. I'm gonna just stick to YouTube because I can make my own schedule and meet people and also make a little bit of money, which I really enjoyed. Yeah. And one of the things that I love about you, you know, so many people in our community – I consider them, they consider themselves, multipassionate entrepreneurs. They do a bunch of things. And I love – first of all, your website is gorgeous. Thank you. It's done by our mutual friend Krystle. Yes, she's so talented. She's so damn good. Yeah. But I loved – it was like actress/ comedian … or actor/ comedian, blogger, graphic designer, like all the slashes. And I was like yes, yes, yes. It's funny because there – when I was growing up and when I was in school and I was interested in all these different things I would constantly run into people in my family and at school who would say, “You have to pick one.” and I thought, “Well, I don't want to pick one. I like all of these things.” And I very much think that if you have lots of different interests, you should explore them to the best of your ability. Because you never know how they're gonna interplay or which one is gonna really take off. And for me, like my graphic design stuff helped me have a great website and make sure that I had beautiful business cards and help me edit my videos. My interest in beauty and hair, you know, make sure I look cute when I go on auditions. Like, all of those things really work together for me. Yeah. And then it seems like they all – in my life too, they converge at some point. Yes. In the beginning it could almost feel like you're scattered. At least that's how I felt. All these different things that I wanted to do, but if you have that sense of courage and the willingness like “I'm just gonna keep going for it.” Absolutely. And even if they don't fit together in a traditional sense, I feel like all the more reason for you to try and figure out a way to make it work. Because that's gonna separate you from the pack. You're gonna be able to differentiate yourself and create a brand that's really unique to you because someone's gonna say, “Huh, I never thought of fashion and fitness fitting together,” but maybe there's a way that you can, you know, do that that no one else is doing. Yes. So speaking of multipassionate, because I know what's a struggle for a lot of folks that are watching, when they do have multiple interests, if things do start to take off, have you ever had a point whether it's in, you know, the past 10 years or even more recently, where the multiple passions are almost fighting with each other? Where you're starting to get stuff – maybe it's rolling in the beauty sense or maybe it's more people want you to speak on tech or you're like, “Oh, my goodness. But I have these projects that I want to do and start pitching shows.” How have you been able to navigate some of that? I am someone who lives by my calendar. So I love making sure that I schedule everything. Whether it's “I'm gonna be on MarieTV” or “I've got an audition” or even when it's just like getting coffee with a friend or doing a phone call catch up with someone I went to high school with, I put it all on my calendar. And so I really try to stick to that, but also keep myself a personal day. So I really try to keep Friday as my day that I don't take auditions, I don't take meetings, and I really stick to that. So that's my day to kind of explore maybe some things that I didn't get to do during the week or work on some more personal projects. And, you know, my team knows that if it's on the calendar, that's a time that is blocked off and they can't have that time. So I think that you kind of have to set those boundaries for yourself. Yeah. And, you know, you and I share a few things. One, we're both Sag sisters. I didn't know that! Yes, fireside. And also the Friday thing. I actually – Fridays I try. I don't have as strict boundaries as you do, but Fridays, my team knows on the calendar. They're like, “Oh, that's Marie's kind of off day.” I mean, if something happens and I need it to be an on Friday, it's fine. But I really try to keep that day for myself. And you need it. I learned that actually from someone that I worked with years ago and she used to do that at like 6:00. She would have an email responder that would say “I don't answer emails after 6:00.” I don't do that. I wish I did. But for me I turned it into a Friday thing. So setting those boundaries I think is really important so that you can explore your passion projects if you're not doing them elsewhere within your career. Yeah. So you mentioned in an interview that you were part of YouTube's Nextup program and that you learned a lot from other content creators, especially when you were first starting to come up. And one of the things, I believe, that's in your heart now is you want to be able to pass along some of those lessons because you've learned so much. I mean, you're out there in such a big way. For anyone watching who feels like they have something to say but they're not quite sure how to say it right or how to do it right, what are some of the lessons you would pass on now? I think one of the biggest things that I learned was just doing your research. I think a lot of times people say, “Well, I want to do this thing but I'm not really sure how.” I always say go look at somebody whose career you really admire, somebody that's doing what you would like to see yourself doing. Maybe not exactly, but there's some element of it that you kind of feel drawn to, and go look at their very first videos. Go listen to some podcast interviews. Go comb through their website. You know, that's the cool thing about social media is you can really learn a lot about someone and their career trajectory and some of the things that they've done. And really I love to write lists in notebooks and things. So really make yourself a list of all the things that they've done that you can learn from, things that they've done right and things that they've done wrong. And really kind of help use that as a roadmap for whatever it is that you're working on. And I also think that's so important because often times you might have a really great idea and then realize, “Oh, crap. Somebody's already doing that or someone did that and it failed.” Why did it fail? Or what am I doing that's possibly going to lead me down the path where this will not be successful? So I think that research step is really important. And then I also just thinking working with other people, you know, you can just learn so much from other people and you can also kind of help lift each other up. Maybe there's a skill that they have that you don't have that you can partner in a project together. And also just you never know who they're gonna meet that you will be perfect for a project or you might meet someone, and vice versa. I'm so lucky I met so many people through Nextup who I'm still really good friends with today and have gotten to work with in a variety of different ways. That's so cool. You know, one of the things we were talking about off camera while we were just getting ready was this idea of comparison. You were sharing a MarieTV video. Yes. Let's talk about that – one of your favorite ones from early on. Yeah, I – it really spoke to me just talking about the downside of comparing yourself to other people and how especially for entrepreneurs it's hard not to do that. Because there's so much time where things aren't working out and you're taking this risk and you've got people around you telling you like, “Is this a good idea?” You're, you know, putting money into something that doesn't necessarily see an end goal in sight. And then you see somebody appear, you know, that's doing what you want to do and they're being really successful, and it's just hard. And that really spoke to me because, you know, in any creative field there's gonna be times it's just not working yet. And so I really kind of built on that and I've started saying “stop hating, start studying.” I love it! Because I've had so many times where I'm like, “Mm, she ain't all that.” And then I was like, “Wait a second, she is all that. She's doing so well.” Then instead of like getting upset and, you know, like going down that Facebook k-hole and looking at all their pictures and seeing all the stuff that they're doing. I started thinking, “Let me study this person and see how is it that she booked that job? How is it that she got that client?” And I think that once I started doing that it's helped me so, so much. And I think that more of us need to put that into practice, especially because social media makes it so easy to just hate and consume everything that's going on in someone else's life. Yeah. And, you know, we were also talking too about how so much of what's on social media, it's just kind of bullshit. Oh, yeah. Because it's a lot of fakeness. Yeah, exactly. That's a hefe filter. I know it and I see it. Nobody looks that good all the time. And so much of it's not real, right? Like think about about how many selfies you have to take before you get that perfect selfie. Oh, I am the queen of having my eyes closed. Exactly. Queen. Right, so you have to take a ton of pictures. Or you have to like jump to get that one flawless jump picture and you've got all the ones where you're like on the ground, you know, and your like skirt is up. I think that we look at what's happening on social media and we think, “Wow, that person's life is perfect,” but we don't know about – oh. A perfect example. I remember I had bedbugs in my apartment. I've had them too! You're in New York, right? Yes. And I still had to make videos, and so I had like one area of my apartment that was clean and the rest of my apartment was like garbage bags. And I was like, “Hey, guys!” And then like the camera would go off and I was like, “I hate my life!” I was like, “This sucks!” I'm like climbing over bags. No one knew. I wasn't telling them that. You know? But my audience is watching thinking like, “Wow, her apartment's so cute.” She's so put together. She's so funny. And I was like, “No, I'm literally sitting here being like… this sucks.” And you don't realize like what's happening outside of that frame. Right? And so I think the minute that you start comparing yourself to somebody else, it's a lose-lose no matter – no matter what. Because you don't actually know the whole story and what you're seeing has been tweaked and edited to present an illusion. Yes. Yes, amen. And we were also – I don't spend that much time on social. Like, people… I wish I didn't. And I know we do similar things, but, you know, everyone's got their own path. But for me, I just have so much fun putting the damn phone down. I get so many more things done! I know. It's true. It's – for me it's like a double-edged sword because it is work and play. And you get to connect with people and there's that beautiful upside, which I do really love. And then there is – it's like – it's really about I think for me bringing a level of consciousness and awareness to it. Yeah, that was one of my New Year's Resolutions was to try and live in the moment more. I realized I was thinking a little bit too much about capturing things for social media rather than just actually enjoying them. Yes. Because you're never gonna watch concert snaps. You're just not. Yeah. No, that's my thing. Like, I have to dial down the Jersey when I go to concerts. I'm like, okay. Because I'm the person who will want to start maybe yelling like, “Please put your goddamn phones down! I just wanna see Beyonce!” And I am so the person that's like on Snapchat that's like, “I'm getting my life.” I know, it's bad. I apologize in advance. I'm getting better. It's fun stuff though. I love that we're having this conversation. So one of the things that I – I mean, I admire so many things about you. You're so brilliant at what you do. Thank you. But I love that your work from your perspective, from what you've shared, it's solution-based. Talk to me about your perspective on creating content around women's issues and social justice and things that can be – they're tricky paths to walk. And really what I feel when I watch your work is this sense of wanting to help us understand each other better.