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100,000 activities activists in switzerland has secured a boat
that would basically provide twenty eight hundred dollars a month to every
single citizen living inside
in Switzerland which is kinda incredible because they literally do not have to do
anything if this type of legislation passes so the reason why they want to do
is because they want to provide basic
monthly income to everyone in Switzerland regardless of what they do
the problem is wise because they want to make sure that they can a for the bare
necessities
and they also want to encourage people to do what they're really love to do as
a career
not be forced to do something because it's the most profitable
so that is obviously very different from what we're experiencing here in the
United States
we have one-party that is fighting aggressively to get rid of that welfare
programs and social programs
and then one party that is kinda trying to maintain them
up so I want to get everyone else's thoughts because I feel like this is
something that we might even disagree on a little bit yeah
you know I'm curious what you guys think in fact I'm getting a good run of eight
so
basis think about it I'm guessing wow I am
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just banquet starts I think this totally exonerates the Swiss
for taking all the money and art that the nazis
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not a problem I
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i'll carry me it's a rich country the shining 89 people some point nine
million people
up you know it's a if you have the ability to do it
I think you should probably do it I imagine that the
economic disparity between rich and poor Twitchell it is pretty extreme cuz you
know they're
definitely rich people in Switzerland but
you know what is interesting is that II know their immigration laws there are
tight
and they better be taken as a given twenty are out every citizen the
Commission people elderly get away with what
I up some countries outside of colin is
up yeah Nina yeah FL so a poor countries might find it a little or
yep totally so let us write yeah
poster that US employers yeah because it was ironic arches
buddy I was sleeping that is what would be an easy trip I gotta let you be
willing to pay it out
notice in trouble to get there here us up crossing the Alps either
yeah but I think I think they might be able to do I think this is an
interesting proposal
I don't know how easily it would be carried out because I'm curious how they
would fund current social programs and that do this on top of that
if they can afford it it's an interesting proposal I would want to see
what kind of impact would have maybe we can do a quick little case study
tried out for a few years and see if people just like stopped working because
that's the course the big arche you just give people
twenty-eight hundred dollars a month willy nilly that what incentive do they
have to go out there
work but there are people out there that are really motivated genuinely wanna go
do something
that they enjoy from work so for instance you know i John and I have this
hypothetical conversation
and if someone was handed me twenty eight hundred dollars a month I wouldn't
quit what I'm doing now because I get the film
out if it makes me feel good about myself will there be some people that
take advantage of it and just lay around and do nothing
of course I spent twenty her horse this morning would
but whatever I
know that the first love us that a lot of money actually yet um
so I I i'm leaning towards towards
opposition to it in a narcotics if they want to do it there it's perfectly fine
is a totally different context racially
historically demographically in terms their money in everything and
which also point out that another thing apparently they're gonna they got enough
signatures for
is a cap on CEO pay it couldn't be 12 thought they could only get there are
times more
which I I would love sale they get every health care too and they
and and and you pay more if you can for yep for that privilege so I mean they
have a
I don't know the full details at the Swiss tax system but it feels
fan yeah and I guess I've always hated it when
somebody will bring like a Republican usually that's a to bring up like
food stamps or welfare and say we'll look now at they're just gonna soak in
the government money and they're not going to work in
it feels to me like growing up relatively poor like a few people might
but that does not indicate the entire system it's crazy to think that
many people would be willing to live on a hundred and fifty dollars a week or
something like that
I'm so I do hate that but apparently there is a dollar value that I think
would disrupt their motivation working apparently it somewhere around twenty
hundred dollars
because I do think that it wouldn't stop me from working I'll continue to work
but I do think that 2800 for some people
I would incentivize working yet so look to clarify its good point made by
and I think that I would love for special it right
a great little government right okay study right as a neutral observer
right but ironic I'll
I but if I let this whistle and I would definitely vote now
I mean look I love your health care system I loved it you general welfare is
good and you help people
who need a helping this terrific so bite
coach I think 28 hun like just giving people money I don't see the point in
you
and the whole idea and like I is so funny like an american or soul right
wing
idea like helping people so that they can pursue their Parker
I you would literally a laptop bill fashion is a maybe
dodging right now Switzerland they have a really high
underemployment rate and also a pretty high unemployment rates
are really enough jobs out there so so what are you doing it just leave people
on the streets
and another concern though I'm and I think that this is a very legitimate
concern about this proposal
is that if you up give people twenty eight hundred dollars and you just say
this is your basic income
there will be people on the other side did say it will then why do we have any
type of welfare system
why don't we get rid the you know subsidize high health insurance
why don't we I get rid of are they have government health insurance there
why we get rid of that why don't we get rid of any type of social program we
have because now they have money
let them decide how they use that money and I could actually put their entire
system in jeopardy there's so many things that factor into this like i mean
we don't know what they get out
in 20 hours a month if you combine preserve all
you know she combined tax credits there plenty people here get 20% in or out a
month
I'll you know a so II doesn't
depends on what else they do expressed by reply and working
think no again but the yet village where I am making your money
I mean I mean yeah I think so yeah you have to work at somebody could be money
you get from investments and yeah
were they have a he said David underplay the problem
people quit their jobs a human beings work they don't you know
and and I don't agree I don't you think people are just inherently lazy
play I don't quit your job the next day right
sound like a winning lottery 2800 about to get later error of your family that
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I know but I think look my keep a real man I mean
annie is a ton of people in the world or like 2800
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I'm filing RK I i think we're way of the rest many how many people with
with certain millionaire yeah I don't or won't work
in a way that they would not keep their jobs coach when we give
we give what is the equivalent of what we get if you're on every possible
government subsidy
you know stories for bombs crib I make think about
think about how empowering it would be to have the freedom to do something that
you genuinely love
as opposed to being forced to doing something that's highly profitable
yeah you know I don't care about yeah there go to this report is irrelevant to
whether it's what people mean people work in the world because people
I don't know where you sit people want to make that that's not enough money to
get people to quit
get a remember when we were underemployed you know it's like when we
lost their jobs in Miami and then
we're coming out here in LA how long we did not bet on employment for as long as
we possibly could
good day and week in a row and I don't know why you but I didn't work in that
time
right now and then work at that time but I try to get a job every fuckin day
so did you planet are you from the planet where I try a little harder after
I ran out of water
I but can I make one last point
and I don't know but you didn't you tried a great we are you want the job
I wanted a job yeah I know but one such expert stop running out I was like
wanted more I was like yeah I gotta go to LA I was trying new yorkers in any
job
america's like I really gotta give I really needed to
yep sup I came out that way so I must have given a real so you're actually
hesitant to come out lol
yeah taxes just uprooting my life I have never lived in LA
and so in love live in this crowd like after kisses makes me look really great
you so we were in Miami know I'm a grown ass man I'm 30 years old at that time we
we've
the or the company sells the whole TV station
pain so ready for job normal a and then
I Ben went to LA I went up to New York
but my parents have a house in New Jersey out so I was a new jersey can I
Drive unit
writing job TV ratings I which is what I was the time in New York
and I'm living with my parents and I'm getting my unemployment check
I was fun I no ironic hurry
just made me realize I have a lot I have time
a like I'm 27 you were thirty unique
you were almost rock-bottom I began to you