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MS. WINFREY: Hi, everybody!
(applause)
We are here for the United State of Women!
(applause)
Mrs. Obama: Now, I know you all have had a busy, packed,
full day -- very inspiring, right?
(applause)
And hopefully, our conversation will live up to
the hype.
But before we begin, of course, I want to take a
moment to just acknowledge what has happened in Orlando
-- that even as we gather here today and we talk about
the challenges that women face, we have to remember
those that we lost in Orlando, as well as those
who were injured, and all of their loves ones, and know
that we will all continue to keep them in our thoughts
and prayers.
But the one thing I just want us all to know -- that
in tragic times like these, in this country, it's time
for us to come together, to love each other, to support
each other and not tear each other down.
(applause)
So I hope that that is one of the many takeaways that
we move forward with.
And I just love you all for the work -- the amazing work
you all have done today and that you do every single day.
So I'm going to turn it over to Oprah.
MS. WINFREY: Hello.
Mrs. Obama: We have Oprah Winfrey here.
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MS. WINFREY: And our First Lady of the United States.
(applause)
Mrs. Obama: Of America.
MS. WINFREY: Of America, not just of women, yes.
(laughter)
So I think that the fact that -- I've been watching
this being streamed all day, and the fact that there are
men here, women here of all ages -- young women,
maturing women -- and all walks of life is a move in
the right direction, would you not say?
Mrs. Obama: Absolutely, absolutely.
I'm just proud of all the work that's been done here.
So I agree.
MS. WINFREY: Well, I wanted to start with the issue of
self-value and self-worth.
Because over the years, I've interviewed thousands of
people, most of them women, and I would say that the
root of every dysfunction I've ever encountered, every
problem has been some sense of a lacking of self-value
or of self-worth.
And I know that we all know that we live in a world
where you are constantly being bombarded by images
that encourage you to be liked, literally.
And it's a lot to live up to.
And I wonder, particularly you, who have had to face
this as your own woman and as a candidate's wife, the
pressure of other people's expectations -- and what can
you share with our audience here and online that would
help us stand more inside ourselves and own that space?
Mrs. Obama: Very good question.
Well, one of the things that I always -- I tell my
mentees, I tell my daughters is that our first job in
life as women, I think, is to get to know ourselves.
And I think a lot of times we don't do that.
We spend our time pleasing, satisfying, looking out into
the world to define who we are -- listening to the
messages, the images, the limited definitions that
people have of who we are.
And that's true for women of color for sure.
There is a limited box that we are put in, and if we
live by that limited definition we miss out on a
lot of who we are.
But it takes taking the time to know who you are to be
able to deal with the onslaught of negative
messages that you're bound to get.
So for me, I came into this with a pretty clear
sense of myself.
And some of that comes with age.
Some of that comes with experience.
Some of that comes from being fortunate enough to
have been raised by a loving mother, strong, focused, and
a father who loved me dearly.
So I fortunately came into this situation with a really
clear sense of who I was.
So when you hear the smack-talking from outside
the world, it's easy to sort of brush that off.
Because I know who I am.
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MS. WINFREY: But when yo came in, there were the
world's expectations, there were other expectations.
What did you really expect?
Mrs. Obama: It' interesting, I really tried
not to limit myself by expectations.
MS. WINFREY: Because nobody grows up thinking "I'm going
to be a First Lady."
Mrs. Obama: Absolutely not.
And as you all know, when Barack was talking about
running, I was like, are you crazy?
I mean, would you just, like, chill out and do
something else with your life?
(laughter)
So I was working hard to try to get him to do the other
thing, so -- whatever that was.
So, yeah, absolutely, it wasn't something that I
could have planned for, could have expected from myself.
But one of the things I knew -- because people asked all
throughout the campaign what are your issues going to be,
what are you going to be like as First Lady, and I
said, I have to wait until I get there to figure out what
that's going to feel like for me.
I specifically did not read other First Ladies' books,
because I didn't want to be influenced by how they
defined the role.
I knew that I would have to find this role --
(applause)
-- very uniquely and specifically to me and
who I was.
So I came in thinking about who I wanted to be in this
position and who I needed to be for my girls, first of all.
So you remember, Malia and Sasha were little
itty-bitties when we came into office.
I mean, it still moves me to tears to think about the
first day I put them in the car with their Secret
Service agents to go to their first day of school.
And I saw them leaving and I thought, what on Earth am I
doing to these babies?
So I knew right then and there my first job was to
make sure they were going to be whole and normal and
cared for in the midst of all this craziness.
(applause)
And then I started to understand that if I was
going to protect them, I had to, number one, protect
myself and protect my time.
So I knew going into this role that I didn't want to
waste any time; that any time I spent away from my
kids -- and I actually took this on even before I became
First Lady, even as a lawyer, as a vice president
at a hospital.
One of the things I realized is that if you do not take
control over your time and your life, other people will
gobble it up.
If you don't prioritize yourself, you constantly
start falling lower and lower on your list, your
kids fall lower and lower on your list.
MS. WINFREY: So by the time you got here you knew how to
do that.
Mrs. Obama: I knew how to do that.
MS. WINFREY: I think that's one of the number-one issues
with women.
I never, in all my years of interviewing, have ever
heard a man say, you know, I just don't have the time, I
just don't, I don't find a way to balance.
Mrs. Obama: You know why?
Because they don't have to balance anything.
Sorry.
(laughter and applause)
And I hope that that is changing, but so many men
don't have to do it all.
MS. WINFREY: So how did you figure it out?
I've read the story -- I'm sure many of you have heard
the story of early on, you were going to a job
interview and you took Sasha with you to interview.
Mrs. Obama: Oh, yeah.
MS. WINFREY: We never heard, did you get that job?
Mrs. Obama: I did.
I did.
MS. WINFREY: Okay.
Mrs. Obama: I was the vice president of community
outreach for the University of Chicago Hospital.
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And I got that job because I didn't compromise.
Because before getting -- working at that job, I was
working as an associate dean.
I had had Malia, Barack was in the U.S.