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  • MS. WINFREY: Hi, everybody!

  • (applause)

  • We are here for the United State of Women!

  • (applause)

  • Mrs. Obama: Now, I know you all have had a busy, packed,

  • full day -- very inspiring, right?

  • (applause)

  • And hopefully, our conversation will live up to

  • the hype.

  • But before we begin, of course, I want to take a

  • moment to just acknowledge what has happened in Orlando

  • -- that even as we gather here today and we talk about

  • the challenges that women face, we have to remember

  • those that we lost in Orlando, as well as those

  • who were injured, and all of their loves ones, and know

  • that we will all continue to keep them in our thoughts

  • and prayers.

  • But the one thing I just want us all to know -- that

  • in tragic times like these, in this country, it's time

  • for us to come together, to love each other, to support

  • each other and not tear each other down.

  • (applause)

  • So I hope that that is one of the many takeaways that

  • we move forward with.

  • And I just love you all for the work -- the amazing work

  • you all have done today and that you do every single day.

  • So I'm going to turn it over to Oprah.

  • MS. WINFREY: Hello.

  • Mrs. Obama: We have Oprah Winfrey here.

  • (applause)

  • MS. WINFREY: And our First Lady of the United States.

  • (applause)

  • Mrs. Obama: Of America.

  • MS. WINFREY: Of America, not just of women, yes.

  • (laughter)

  • So I think that the fact that -- I've been watching

  • this being streamed all day, and the fact that there are

  • men here, women here of all ages -- young women,

  • maturing women -- and all walks of life is a move in

  • the right direction, would you not say?

  • Mrs. Obama: Absolutely, absolutely.

  • I'm just proud of all the work that's been done here.

  • So I agree.

  • MS. WINFREY: Well, I wanted to start with the issue of

  • self-value and self-worth.

  • Because over the years, I've interviewed thousands of

  • people, most of them women, and I would say that the

  • root of every dysfunction I've ever encountered, every

  • problem has been some sense of a lacking of self-value

  • or of self-worth.

  • And I know that we all know that we live in a world

  • where you are constantly being bombarded by images

  • that encourage you to be liked, literally.

  • And it's a lot to live up to.

  • And I wonder, particularly you, who have had to face

  • this as your own woman and as a candidate's wife, the

  • pressure of other people's expectations -- and what can

  • you share with our audience here and online that would

  • help us stand more inside ourselves and own that space?

  • Mrs. Obama: Very good question.

  • Well, one of the things that I always -- I tell my

  • mentees, I tell my daughters is that our first job in

  • life as women, I think, is to get to know ourselves.

  • And I think a lot of times we don't do that.

  • We spend our time pleasing, satisfying, looking out into

  • the world to define who we are -- listening to the

  • messages, the images, the limited definitions that

  • people have of who we are.

  • And that's true for women of color for sure.

  • There is a limited box that we are put in, and if we

  • live by that limited definition we miss out on a

  • lot of who we are.

  • But it takes taking the time to know who you are to be

  • able to deal with the onslaught of negative

  • messages that you're bound to get.

  • So for me, I came into this with a pretty clear

  • sense of myself.

  • And some of that comes with age.

  • Some of that comes with experience.

  • Some of that comes from being fortunate enough to

  • have been raised by a loving mother, strong, focused, and

  • a father who loved me dearly.

  • So I fortunately came into this situation with a really

  • clear sense of who I was.

  • So when you hear the smack-talking from outside

  • the world, it's easy to sort of brush that off.

  • Because I know who I am.

  • (applause)

  • MS. WINFREY: But when yo came in, there were the

  • world's expectations, there were other expectations.

  • What did you really expect?

  • Mrs. Obama: It' interesting, I really tried

  • not to limit myself by expectations.

  • MS. WINFREY: Because nobody grows up thinking "I'm going

  • to be a First Lady."

  • Mrs. Obama: Absolutely not.

  • And as you all know, when Barack was talking about

  • running, I was like, are you crazy?

  • I mean, would you just, like, chill out and do

  • something else with your life?

  • (laughter)

  • So I was working hard to try to get him to do the other

  • thing, so -- whatever that was.

  • So, yeah, absolutely, it wasn't something that I

  • could have planned for, could have expected from myself.

  • But one of the things I knew -- because people asked all

  • throughout the campaign what are your issues going to be,

  • what are you going to be like as First Lady, and I

  • said, I have to wait until I get there to figure out what

  • that's going to feel like for me.

  • I specifically did not read other First Ladies' books,

  • because I didn't want to be influenced by how they

  • defined the role.

  • I knew that I would have to find this role --

  • (applause)

  • -- very uniquely and specifically to me and

  • who I was.

  • So I came in thinking about who I wanted to be in this

  • position and who I needed to be for my girls, first of all.

  • So you remember, Malia and Sasha were little

  • itty-bitties when we came into office.

  • I mean, it still moves me to tears to think about the

  • first day I put them in the car with their Secret

  • Service agents to go to their first day of school.

  • And I saw them leaving and I thought, what on Earth am I

  • doing to these babies?

  • So I knew right then and there my first job was to

  • make sure they were going to be whole and normal and

  • cared for in the midst of all this craziness.

  • (applause)

  • And then I started to understand that if I was

  • going to protect them, I had to, number one, protect

  • myself and protect my time.

  • So I knew going into this role that I didn't want to

  • waste any time; that any time I spent away from my

  • kids -- and I actually took this on even before I became

  • First Lady, even as a lawyer, as a vice president

  • at a hospital.

  • One of the things I realized is that if you do not take

  • control over your time and your life, other people will

  • gobble it up.

  • If you don't prioritize yourself, you constantly

  • start falling lower and lower on your list, your

  • kids fall lower and lower on your list.

  • MS. WINFREY: So by the time you got here you knew how to

  • do that.

  • Mrs. Obama: I knew how to do that.

  • MS. WINFREY: I think that's one of the number-one issues

  • with women.

  • I never, in all my years of interviewing, have ever

  • heard a man say, you know, I just don't have the time, I

  • just don't, I don't find a way to balance.

  • Mrs. Obama: You know why?

  • Because they don't have to balance anything.

  • Sorry.

  • (laughter and applause)

  • And I hope that that is changing, but so many men

  • don't have to do it all.

  • MS. WINFREY: So how did you figure it out?

  • I've read the story -- I'm sure many of you have heard

  • the story of early on, you were going to a job

  • interview and you took Sasha with you to interview.

  • Mrs. Obama: Oh, yeah.

  • MS. WINFREY: We never heard, did you get that job?

  • Mrs. Obama: I did.

  • I did.

  • MS. WINFREY: Okay.

  • Mrs. Obama: I was the vice president of community

  • outreach for the University of Chicago Hospital.

  • (applause)

  • And I got that job because I didn't compromise.

  • Because before getting -- working at that job, I was

  • working as an associate dean.

  • I had had Malia, Barack was in the U.S.