Matt: Boy, it has been incredible. You know, somebody gave me a cheap pétanque set and

pétanque is like French bocce. It's a little bit more tactical. The French pop the ball

into the air and drop it in the right spot rather than bowling the ball, and they usually

play on crushed granite. So it's all about how you place the ball and when you place

the ball, and the kinds of tactics that you have, and, of course, also the people that

you play with. Sometimes I play with folks who are negative, you know, and the things

that are coming out of their mouth and, especially, if they're a teammate of mine, it's gonna

affect the way I play. And sometimes I play with people who have an enthusiastic positive

attitude, and I tend to do really well with my enthusiastically positive teammate. I play

with a lot of French folks, it's a French game, and they are an incredible bunch of

people, sometimes playfully arrogant but just wonderful, wonderful folks. And it's -- for

these people, it's -- it's like golf, but because of the team aspect of it and the tactics

that you use, and the overall strategy that you use to win points, I think it's far more

challenging and you get more out of it. I actually get more out of it than I do golf.