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  • MALE SPEAKER: Welcome to "Talks at Google."

  • Please join me today in welcoming Bay Area journalist

  • Marina Krakovsky, the author of "The Middleman Economy."

  • Just published.

  • Marina's writing has appeared in "The New York Times Magazine,"

  • "The Washington Post," the "Stanford Magazine,"

  • "Scientific American," "Discover," "Psychology Today,"

  • and "Slate."

  • Marina was also a researcher for Eric Schmidt and Jonathan's

  • book, "How Google Works."

  • Marina has earned a BA in English

  • from Stanford University.

  • Thank you for coming to Google today.

  • MARINA KRAKOVSKY: Thank you.

  • All right.

  • So I'm here to tell you that we are all middlemen.

  • I'm a middleman.

  • You guys are middlemen.

  • And what I will say is why I say that.

  • And also, I'll give you ways to think about how you

  • could be a better middleman.

  • So if we think back to the day when the internet was still

  • in its early years and people were all

  • trying to figure out what's this going to mean for all of us,

  • a lot of people were saying that the internet's radical ability

  • to connect everybody would make middlemen obsolete.

  • Bill Gates actually wrote in his 1995 book, "The Road Ahead,"

  • that the internet itself would become the ultimate go-between,

  • the universal middle man.

  • He foresaw a time in the future when we wouldn't

  • need to turn to middlemen.

  • We would be able to do our own buying and selling directly.

  • But if you look around 20 years later,

  • you see, very clearly, that that actually has not happened.

  • In fact, I'll argue that the opposite has happened.

  • That the internet has made middlemen more prevalent

  • and more valuable.

  • So look at the biggest players on the internet.

  • eBay and Amazon are middleman businesses.

  • Uber and Airbnb are middleman businesses.

  • Google is a middleman business.

  • Right?

  • And I'm not just talking about tech giants.

  • I'm also talking about individual middlemen

  • who are thriving thanks to the tools of the internet.

  • So think about eBay.

  • Anybody can buy and sell directly

  • through eBay being a middleman but most of the trade on eBay

  • actually flows through resellers,

  • through trusted middlemen on eBay.

  • And on LinkedIn, something very similar happens.

  • It's all about the recruiters.

  • Recruiters bring in more of LinkedIn's revenue

  • then all the other LinkedIn users combined.

  • So the internet clearly didn't do away with middlemen.

  • It's actually made them more efficient, and often,

  • more effective at what they do.

  • So I've been thinking for a very long time

  • about what is the deal with middlemen, basically.

  • I mean, it's so strange.

  • Middlemen have been a part of every society that I know of.

  • Throughout history we've had middlemen.

  • And yet, people have often had very strong negative feelings

  • about middlemen, feelings of resentment,

  • anger, contempt, sometimes even disgust.

  • And, at the same time, middlemen are still there.

  • Or to put it another way, if people

  • are so eager to eliminate the middlemen,

  • why have we never been able to do so?

  • These are the driving questions behind my book

  • and that those are the questions that I really tried to answer.

  • So I talked to economists and psychologists and sociologists

  • who think about such issues.

  • But also with ordinary-- or you might

  • say extraordinary-- middlemen, people

  • who I think do a great job and are doing just fine--

  • thank you very much-- in the age of the internet.

  • So it's people that you might expect, like real estate agents

  • and travel agents and car dealers.

  • But also people that it might take you

  • a moment to realize that they are middlemen, too.

  • So, for example, gosh, a wedding planner is a middleman.

  • If you pause to think about that, right?

  • A venture capitalist is a middleman.

  • A person who started a two-sided market, like Open Table,

  • that's a middleman.

  • There are middlemen all over.

  • Gallerists are middlemen.

  • Anytime you're dealing with any kind of broker, dealer, anybody

  • who's connecting two groups of people, that's a middleman.

  • And what's interesting from talking

  • to all these different people is that even though they're

  • from different industries, you start to see patterns.

  • You start to see what they have in common

  • that is making them as effective and successful as they are.

  • And that's sort of what I started to do in my book,

  • is to tease out those commonalities that

  • are true everywhere.

  • And although all the examples that I use throughout the book

  • and throughout my presentation will

  • be of professional middlemen-- people who

  • identify as middlemen in their jobs--

  • I do believe that all of us are middlemen,

  • at least in some area of our work or in our personal lives.

  • So what do I mean by a middleman?

  • I think we all have an intuition about this.

  • And we think of a middle man is the person connecting

  • two groups of people or two individuals, the person

  • in-between.

  • But I want to give you a more useful definition that explains

  • what middlemen actually do.

  • And this definition comes from a man

  • named Mike Maples, Jr. He's a venture capitalist here

  • in the valley.

  • Started a fund called Floodgate that was an early investor

  • in Lyft and TaskRabbit-- middleman businesses--

  • as well as, of course, other start-ups.

  • And he says this.

  • A middleman is the person in a network who

  • connects nodes in the network to increase

  • the value of the network.

  • I think it's a useful definition,

  • and I'm going to talk a lot more about what that means.

  • But I also want to acknowledge that middleman

  • is a sexist word.

  • I realize it's a sexist word.

  • And I'm using it despite that because I really

  • think no other word will capture what I'm trying to do,

  • which is really push against these cultural ideas

  • about middlemen.

  • You know, that word has these strong connotations.

  • We just don't hear people saying,

  • ah, let's cut out the intermediary.

  • It's really about the middleman.

  • So forgive me for using that word.

  • There's a reason.

  • So going back to this idea that middlemen

  • are people who we increase the value of a network

  • by connecting nodes.

  • I do think it's a really helpful start,

  • but it's not a complete definition.

  • And the reason it's not complete is that not all connectors

  • are of equal quality.

  • Right.

  • We know that.

  • And if you think about Metcalfe's law--

  • I would guess everybody in this room knows what that is.

  • Metcalfe's law, this provocative claim

  • that the value of a network grows quadratically

  • with the number of connected users.

  • Well, that may not be true.

  • It may be true sometimes.

  • It's certainly not true for every additional user

  • you add to a network.

  • And if you think about it in terms of middlemen--

  • or if you think of it in terms of any kind of user,

  • actually-- if you have a network that has a certain value

  • and you take out some of those nodes,

  • sometimes taking out a single node

  • will just decimate the network.

  • It'll radically decrease the value of the network.

  • And sometimes taking out a node will

  • have almost no effect at all.

  • And sometimes taking out a node will actually

  • increase the value of the network

  • because some of these connectors are actually

  • having a net negative effect on the value of a network.

  • So if you think about spammers, that

  • would be an example of something like that.

  • So it is really important to think

  • about connectors' quality.

  • But how do you think about connectors' quality?

  • What is it that defines the quality of a connector

  • or of a middleman?

  • And the way I find it useful to think about it

  • is in terms of these two dimensions.

  • One is warmth, and the other is competence.

  • Warmth and competence.

  • And these are specialized terms that social psychologists

  • use when they're talking about how we judge other people.

  • So this isn't just true about middlemen.

  • This is true about human judgment in general.

  • When we meet somebody, we quickly

  • evaluate them based on our perceptions

  • of the person's warmth, which is all about their intentions.

  • Are they friend or foe?

  • Are they on my side or not?

  • And competence, which is a separate issue.

  • And that's really all about the ability

  • to deliver on those intentions.

  • Those are totally separate.

  • And if you combine them, you quickly

  • generate this nice two-by-two matrix

  • with four possible combinations.

  • And I want to talk through each of these

  • so you know what I'm talking about.

  • I think that these labels that I've come up

  • with really capture some of the emotion

  • and some of the ambivalence that we

  • have about middlemen because middlemen are not all created

  • equal.

  • They really vary in quality across these two dimensions.

  • So clearly, the worst type is the one

  • I call the parasite person, who is

  • low in warmth and competence.

  • After the financial crisis of 2008, a lot of people

  • put the bankers on Wall Street in that quadrant.

  • They've actually done studies on this,

  • and companies like Goldman Sachs and AIG

  • landed squarely in that cold, incompetent quadrant.

  • We don't need to say much about that.

  • What's more interesting is these ambivalent cases.

  • So, the predator-- the person who is competent, but really

  • doesn't have your interests at heart--

  • this is the person that we tend to resent.

  • And I don't know about you guys, but this is how

  • I feel about my cable company.

  • They're competent.

  • They're able to deliver high speed internet and video

  • to my home.

  • But clearly, they don't have my best interests at heart.

  • They seem to be taking advantage of their monopolistic power

  • for their personal gain, not for us.

  • They have high prices, terrible customer service.

  • All of that makes me think that they're not warm at all, even

  • if they're competent.

  • Now the pet is maybe a little bit better because they're

  • at least on your side.

  • But unfortunately, they can't really

  • deliver on those good intentions.

  • And, to my mind, a good example would

  • be the stereotypical mom-and-pop shop.

  • So the service might be really slow.

  • You might have to place a special order and wait for it

  • to be delivered.

  • The prices are high.

  • But it's not because they're trying to gouge you.

  • They're not trying to take advantage of you.

  • They really mean well.

  • They just can't do any better, unfortunately.

  • And this sort of person evokes feelings of pity.

  • So you might patronize a store like that

  • because you feel bad for them.

  • But if the difference in price, or quality,

  • speed, and all those sorts of things--

  • if that difference grows to a certain point,

  • you're going to give up on them.

  • You're still going to go with the retail giant instead.

  • So clearly, the best type of middleman to deal with

  • is the partner.

  • Both warm and competent, they have your best interests

  • at heart.

  • And they're really able to deliver

  • on those good intentions.

  • So I think everybody wants to deal with a partner.

  • And everybody should want to be a partner.

  • And way to think about being a partner

  • is going back to this idea of increasing

  • the value of a network by connecting nodes.

  • What partners are able to do is they're

  • able to increase the size of the pie.

  • And then take as their slice-- you know,

  • their markup, their commission, their fee.

  • And after they take that slice for creating that extra value,

  • you still feel like you are way better off than if you

  • hadn't partner with them.

  • And so being a partner puts you in a very strong position

  • because people really want to do business with you.

  • They're not just doing business with you

  • because they feel sorry for you or because they currently

  • don't have any alternatives, but because you really

  • are providing a great value to them.

  • So this is my foundation for everything

  • I'm going to say today.

  • We've got this idea of a good middleman, the admirable kind

  • of middleman as a partner.

  • They create value.

  • You appreciate them.

  • And then the question becomes, well,

  • how exactly do they create value?

  • This is a very fuzzy notion of creating value

  • by connecting nodes in a network.

  • What is it that they're doing exactly?

  • And this is really what most of my book is about.

  • I distill it into six problems that middlemen solve--

  • that good middlemen solve.

  • And I think that you will all find yourself in a middleman

  • position at some point.

  • And I hope that as I continue discussing

  • what these middlemen do, you'll see, yeah,

  • sometimes I do that in my work.

  • Or I see somebody else doing that.

  • And maybe I should be doing more of this.

  • I hadn't thought of that.

  • And that's the idea anyway.

  • So what do middlemen do to create value,

  • to be a valued partner?

  • Well, the very first problem that they solve

  • is what I call the problem of distance.

  • Distance can take many forms-- well,

  • three forms that I talk about anyway.

  • There's physical, you know, geographic distance.

  • That's pretty obvious.

  • But you can also have temporal distance and social distance.

  • So with physical distance, it's two people

  • who would both benefit from doing business together--

  • some kind of trade-- but they're just too far apart.

  • And the merchant steps in and connects them that way,

  • indirectly.

  • With temporal distance, we don't usually

  • think of middlemen this way.

  • But that's actually what a lot of them do.

  • So my favorite example of this is an appliance flipper

  • on Craigslist.

  • I'm sure you guys have all used Craigslist.

  • What this guy does is he's like a super user of Craigslist,

  • a power user of Craigslist.

  • He's just constantly on the site.

  • He knows all about the prices for the kinds of products

  • that he buys and sells because he has to.

  • He lives off of that difference, that markup between what he

  • buys for and what he sells for.

  • So he'll buy a used washer or dryer for $50.

  • That's the price he's aiming for.

  • He'll do that on Saturday, take the appliance off

  • of somebody's hands.

  • He'll quickly turn around and post that same listing

  • on Craigslist and then sit and wait and does his other work,

  • and sits and waits until somebody

  • can match his asking price, which

  • is typically $250 or $300.

  • And then when that person comes back--

  • it might be a couple days later-- he

  • sells it to them for that higher price.

  • So they're a bridge in time.

  • They're a bridge between the seller on a Saturday

  • and the buyer on a Monday or Tuesday.

  • Social distance, this is another problem.

  • And this is really the biggest problem of all.

  • And it presents the most opportunity.

  • Because, what you often have-- this

  • is a very typical pattern for social networks--

  • is that people tend to be with other people like them.

  • Birds of a feather flock together is the saying.

  • And so if you map the social structure,

  • what you end up having is a cluster of people

  • who all know each other here.

  • And then another cluster here and another cluster there.

  • But then you have these gaps between the clusters.

  • The structural holes is what sociologists call them.

  • And what structural holes do is they create problems

  • with transferring information, but they also

  • create opportunities for middlemen

  • who can act as bridges.

  • They're bridging these gaps in the social fabric.

  • So, an example, there's an entrepreneur

  • I spoke with who, when she was a college student,

  • saw an expectant mother, a heavily pregnant woman,

  • putting up fliers in this young woman's dorm.

  • She was looking for a nanny.

  • And she thought, there are so many college students,

  • I'm bound to be able to find a nanny here.

  • Now, this is in the Boston area, and there are just so

  • many college students in the Boston area.

  • It would be very inefficient to go and do this.

  • And it's just silly for an expectant mother

  • to be doing this or for anybody to be doing this.

  • And so you've got for these people.

  • There's a cluster of college students, many clusters

  • of college students.

  • And then you have many clusters of families.

  • And the families may talk to each other.

  • And the college students may talk to each other.

  • But they're separated across social distance.

  • And so what the entrepreneur did is

  • she saw this bridging opportunity.

  • This was in the early days of e-commerce.

  • And she started a service called Sittercity

  • that connects these two groups.

  • And now, we have many, many such services.

  • And that doesn't seem so remarkable.

  • But I'm just showing you this as an example

  • of how, even within the same geographic area,

  • you might have the need for a bridge.

  • All right.

  • So this bridge in social structure

  • is pretty foundational to solving

  • a lot of the other problems that I'm going to describe.

  • So let's take the problem of quality.

  • This is another problem that middlemen solve.

  • Whenever you're buying something,

  • you're kind of at the mercy of the seller

  • because the seller typically knows more

  • about what they're selling then you, as the buyer, do.

  • All right.

  • So classic example is a used car.

  • If you're selling a used car, you

  • know how well you've taken care of the car, what

  • problems it has, and so on.

  • And the buyer doesn't know that.

  • And this creates a real problem for both sides, actually.

  • This is what the whole market for lemons is about.

  • It's not just that the seller is suspicious of the buyer

  • and is at a disadvantage.

  • The buyer ends up being at a disadvantage

  • just against other buyers because-- I

  • mean, sorry-- the seller.

  • How can the seller prove that the car is in

  • as good a condition as the seller knows it to be?

  • How can they justify that price?

  • So this is where a middleman can help because a middleman is

  • doing trade constantly.

  • If you're selling a car, you're doing it once every few years.

  • But someone who specializes in selling cars

  • is doing it all the time.

  • So a really clear demonstration of how

  • a middleman can solve this quality problem

  • is apparent on eBay.

  • Because on eBay, it's all right there.

  • You can see who is doing the selling.

  • You can see a record of their transactions over time.

  • What everybody wants is a high feedback score on eBay

  • because it makes buyers trust that person more.

  • The problem is, it's very hard to build up

  • that kind of positive score, that positive reputation

  • on eBay, if you're only selling occasionally.

  • You see?

  • This is why being a middleman gives you an advantage

  • because-- one of many reasons-- is that you're

  • buying and selling a lot.

  • And so you can much more quickly build up

  • a reputation as someone who delivers on the quality

  • that they're promising.

  • So one of the people I interviewed for the book

  • is a woman who is a PowerSeller on eBay.

  • PowerSeller is eBay's designation

  • for its most active and reputable sellers.

  • She gave up a career as an appellate lawyer

  • to sell luxury designer goods on eBay

  • because, gosh, it was just a quick way

  • to become an entrepreneur.

  • And she's an expert on this stuff.

  • That's one of the keys.

  • You have to really be good at sussing out quality.

  • And she's staking her reputation on everything

  • that she sells on the site.

  • She really guards that average feedback score on eBay

  • because she knows that all her future sales depend on it.

  • So this is the advantage that a middleman has.

  • They're an expert in quality.

  • And they're really able to lay their reputation

  • on the line with every sale.

  • So I call this type of middleman, the certifier.

  • And, by the way, we often talk about people saying things

  • like, we don't need gatekeepers.

  • Gatekeepers are evil.

  • Let's bypass the gatekeepers.

  • Let's do our own thing.

  • Well, gatekeepers are actually very

  • valuable for this very reason.

  • It's in their interest to close the gates when crap is coming

  • through, and to open them up when

  • they see something of quality.

  • And when we're buying, as consumers of goods,

  • of cultural products, it's valuable to use

  • the services of the gatekeeper because we know that there's

  • a stamp of approval.

  • You're not going to see a lot of schlock

  • go through a great gatekeeper.

  • All right.

  • So the third problem is the problem of accountability.

  • Accountability is related to the problem of quality,

  • except with quality, you're just dealing with goods.

  • With accountability, you're dealing with services.

  • So let's say you need to hire somebody.

  • How do you know, regardless of that person's track

  • record or underlying quality, how

  • do you know that they're going to deliver

  • for you, that they're going to do a good job for you?

  • And again, you have the same problem

  • that the infrequent seller or the infrequent buyer

  • does in the certifier scenario.

  • If you're only selling something,

  • a service, occasionally, how can you

  • prove that you really are an honest, accountable person who

  • works hard and so on?

  • And, as the buyer, how can you ascertain that as well?

  • So again, middlemen to the rescue.

  • I'll give you an example.

  • A modeling agent, an agent who represents

  • models for photographers or brands

  • that need to hire models.

  • This is a person who's keeping both sides honest.

  • I'm using that as an umbrella term,

  • keeping both sides honest, to capture

  • that whole notion of accountability that

  • can take many forms.

  • So in the case of a model, being accountable

  • means that you're going to show up.

  • That's the main thing.

  • You're going to show up on time-- which, by the way,

  • in the modeling world means 15 minutes-- or at least

  • 15 minutes-- before the shoot starts.

  • And for the other side, the photographer

  • or the brand who's taking pictures,

  • that they stick to the letter of the contract,

  • that they uphold the contract terms.

  • So if they are allowed to use these images in a catalog

  • because that's what they paid for,

  • the agency, the middleman in this transaction,

  • is going to make sure that they don't

  • slap on those pictures on a big billboard.

  • So the middleman is able to keep both sides accountable.

  • A model might still flake out, but she'll

  • be less likely to flake out when she's being represented

  • by the agency.

  • And the reason is that the agency's

  • in a position to have her brought in again

  • and again and again.

  • So she's got a longer future horizon

  • when working through the agency than if she's doing business

  • directly with a photographer.

  • Then she can say, uh, it's not worth it for me.

  • Something-- a better gig came up.

  • I'll just cancel on you or whatever.

  • So that's an example of accountability.

  • And it happens everywhere.

  • So, OK.

  • We've talked about these several problems.

  • I'll also present the problem of risk.

  • And, of course, all of these things

  • that I've been talking about-- the problem of quality

  • and the problem of accountability--

  • do have to do with risk.

  • And that is the risk that what you're buying

  • isn't what you thought you would get.

  • But, when I talk about the middleman as a risk bearer,

  • I'm really talking about a different kind of risk.

  • And that is the kind of risk that neither side can predict.

  • A lot of services in the on-demand economy

  • actually deal with this kind of risk.

  • It's those unpredictable fluctuations in demand.

  • When are you going to need to call up a car?

  • When is a car going to be in this neighborhood?

  • None of these services know when each of these events

  • is going to happen, but because they're

  • pooling all these resources-- they're

  • kind of building a portfolio, you

  • might say-- then in the aggregate,

  • they do know that at this time you're

  • going to have somebody who's going to need

  • a car in this neighborhood.

  • And you're going to have a driver that's

  • within a certain radius of this neighborhood.

  • So that's risk pooling.

  • That's the risk-bearing role.

  • And often, it has to work hand-and-hand

  • with these other types of risk, the quality problem

  • and the accountability problem.

  • The clear demonstration of this is

  • with a service called ZocDoc.

  • It's another one of these two-sided marketplaces.

  • It's sort of the OpenTable for doctor's appointments.

  • So if you need to see a doctor on short notice,

  • you can go to this website and find someone in your area,

  • in the specialty that you're looking for.

  • And for the doctors-- who are the ones who

  • are paying for this service because it's

  • free to the patients-- for the doctors,

  • this is a great service just like OpenTable

  • is for restaurants because they often

  • have last-minute cancellations.

  • And they'd rather fill that appointment slot.

  • So for each doctor, it's unpredictable

  • when that opening is going to show up.

  • But for the site, for the service as a whole, for ZocDoc,

  • it's quite predictable that, yes,

  • we can really count on there being

  • a certain number of openings.

  • And we can count on a certain amount of demand from patients.

  • And you have to keep those in balance.

  • But here's the interesting part is that it really

  • has to work hand-in-hand with the work of accountability

  • and the work of sussing out quality.

  • Because you're going to run into this problem.

  • Who do you think will be the doctors with the most openings?

  • That's the kind of risk.

  • Doctors who are not very good, who have not

  • been able to build up a very good reputation

  • in their community.

  • So everybody's going to have, you know, these flukes.

  • Like, you know, very honest reasons for having an opening.

  • But doctors who have a disproportionately high number

  • of openings, you have to wonder about these doctors.

  • And ZocDoc, as a middleman, has to protect themselves

  • from that kind of risk.

  • They have to weed out the bad doctors.

  • But they have to embrace the other kind of risk,

  • which is that nobody knows when you're

  • going to have an opening.

  • So this is where these reputation systems come in.

  • It's almost an industry standard now that all of these sites

  • have a way for users to evaluate the other side.

  • At least in this case, patients evaluate doctors.

  • And when doctors know that they're going to be evaluated,

  • they're going to be, presumably, on better behavior.

  • So they're not going to, maybe, keep you waiting as long

  • as they would if you were not transacting

  • through the middleman.

  • At least, that's the theory.

  • And it's in ZocDoc's interest to keep

  • that system working very well.

  • So that's the risk bearer role.

  • And again, it comes up in lots of other places.

  • There's another problem.

  • And I would call this the problem

  • of information overload.

  • I think Google certainly understands this problem.

  • It's like the official, you know, mission of the company

  • to organize all the world's information.

  • A lot of people don't appreciate this.

  • That the more information you have,

  • that's not necessarily a good thing by itself.

  • Because then you have the problem

  • of sifting through this information,

  • processing the information to make a good decision.

  • And Herbert Simon said, pretty famously--

  • you guys might have heard this quote--

  • that a wealth of information creates a poverty of attention.

  • And by attention, he just meant time.

  • Information consumes time.

  • If you've ever had to plan a complex trip,

  • you probably can relate to this.

  • Humans actually have a much harder time

  • than computers in processing information

  • because we get overwhelmed.

  • We get emotionally overwhelmed.

  • And so we just get paralyzed with indecision.

  • And so this is another rationale for a middleman to step in.

  • So I call this role the concierge role.

  • Just like you could do your own research on whatever city

  • you're going to through your iPad or whatever,

  • or you can go to a concierge who can just

  • cut through all of that and tell you exactly

  • where to go to meet your needs.

  • So that is the concierge role.

  • And I think computers are going to be

  • doing more and more of that, but we're not there yet.

  • We still can really benefit from a good concierge.

  • By the way, this is where I think real estate agents can

  • really step up their game.

  • We no longer need real estate agents

  • to just tell you what the listings are

  • if we're buying a house.

  • But we need them to guide us through this long, complex,

  • high stakes transaction.

  • And I think that they could be doing a better job at that

  • if they thought of their role that way.

  • All right.

  • Finally, the last problem that I think middlemen solve

  • is a problem that I'll just call self-advocacy,

  • the problem of self-advocacy.

  • Which is the problem of trying to advocate on your own behalf.

  • So we, just as humans, we have a hard time tooting our own horn.

  • Much easier if somebody else does that for us,

  • if somebody else introduces us, if somebody else

  • says how great we are.

  • And also the problem of pushing for what we want.

  • We're afraid of rocking the boat.

  • And one of the middlemen I interviewed for this book

  • really saw this problem in his industry.

  • And we already see this in other industries

  • like in sports agents, right.

  • They advocate on behalf of the athlete.

  • So not only does the athlete not have

  • to become an expert in negotiation,

  • but the athlete can just pretend that they're

  • just interested in the game, and let the business sign be

  • taken care of by the middleman.

  • The person that I talked to does the same thing

  • for young doctors.

  • So he's a doctor himself, a more seasoned doctor.

  • And he's seen both sides.

  • Middlemen often do have to be able to appreciate

  • the needs of both sides.

  • And he realized that young doctors

  • are at a disadvantage in negotiating

  • for their first job out of residency or medical school.

  • And the disadvantages-- well, there are many disadvantages.

  • One is they just don't even have the information.

  • They don't have experience negotiating.

  • But they're also hamstrung by the fact

  • that throughout medical school, it has been pounded into them

  • that medicine is a higher calling.

  • It's not about the money.

  • And you shouldn't show an interest in money

  • when you're talking to your future employer.

  • But hospitals and clinics take advantage of that norm.

  • And so they're able to get these young doctors to just sign

  • whatever the first offer is.

  • So this agent is able to step in and he's

  • able to say things like, well, I know

  • you really need an ER doctor.

  • And I know that the median pay in Kansas City for an ER doctor

  • is X. And so, let's just move toward X

  • with this person who's a young hire.

  • We don't know anything about his quality.

  • So let's just take the median salary as our target.

  • There's just no way that the doctor-- even if the doctor had

  • that information-- would feel comfortable saying

  • these things on her own behalf.

  • So that's a value that this role that I call the insulator

  • provides.

  • So what's interesting about all of these is they

  • all show-- they're all able to wield power

  • on behalf of their client, on behalf of their trading

  • partner.

  • Going back to this idea of being an admirable middleman,

  • a true partner.

  • But they're able to do it without any kind

  • of a formal authority.

  • It's not like anybody's reporting to this person.

  • But we're all gladly partnering with these people.

  • We're all happily using these services

  • because these businesses are providing

  • true value to both sides.

  • And I want to just leave you with this thought

  • about how this might apply to you and how can

  • you start to see yourself as a middleman as well.

  • So this diagram shows somebody's actual map

  • of their LinkedIn connections.

  • LinkedIn no longer offers this visualization service.

  • But if you were to manually map all your connections,

  • I would bet that your diagram, your own personal network

  • diagram, would look much like this.

  • And this person, right here in the middle,

  • is the user whose connections are being mapped here.

  • And all these colors, they refer to a cluster.

  • Remember, I was talking about a typical social network having

  • clusters and having bridges, and gaps between clusters

  • that can be bridged.

  • So, the blue cluster are all employees of one company.

  • And maybe the orange cluster is employees

  • of a previous employer that this person has worked for.

  • And, I think, the green cluster refers to some classmates

  • from college.

  • And the smallest cluster is typically your family members.

  • Again, all these people know each other, more or less,

  • because they're in the same social circle.

  • That's what we would say, social circle.

  • But they don't all know each other across clusters.

  • And in this case, you sometimes have people who overlap.

  • But the most prominent bridge is the user, him or herself.

  • This is the person who is a bridge across all

  • of these clusters.

  • So the idea here is that we're all separated,

  • but we're all part of a bunch of networks.

  • And if we can think of ourselves as being

  • that middleman, that middle person,

  • the person who can bridge all of these different networks,

  • then we can increase the value of our whole network.

  • And we can do it through these ways

  • of being not just a bridge, but also a certifier or an enforcer

  • of the accountability role.

  • Or, perhaps, an insulator when you're saying something

  • on behalf of a co-worker that they can't say

  • on behalf of themselves.

  • That's how you can be a more valuable middleman yourself.

  • [APPLAUSE]

  • AUDIENCE: So you mentioned that historically we

  • have viewed middlemen as something that we reviled.

  • However, clearly, like you said, most

  • of the services that we work with

  • are, essentially, middlemen.

  • Why do you think the social perception

  • has changed for middlemen?

  • Why don't we revile, like, Amazon or Google, as we would,

  • I don't know, an older middleman?

  • MARINA KRAKOVSKY: Yeah.

  • Well, there are a lot of answers to that question.

  • So first of all, middlemen as a group are still reviled.

  • I follow this word on Twitter because I

  • want to join conversations about middlemen.

  • And people still say things like, cut out the middleman.

  • This service cuts out the middleman.

  • And they're not seeing that, well, this service, actually,

  • is a middleman, too.

  • So, that's one thing.

  • I'd say, in general, people still

  • don't have this, like, negative view of middlemen.

  • A lot of people wouldn't see Amazon as a middleman.

  • Another answer is that Amazon I would

  • put in that golden quadrant of being a partner, at least

  • from the consumer's side.

  • If you talk to small manufacturers who

  • try to sell through Amazon, you might hear a different answer.

  • So I think that the ones that we look to as admirable ones,

  • we just don't call them a middleman.

  • AUDIENCE: So middleman is a more semantic thing then?

  • We just call things middlemen that we don't like middlemen,

  • but the middlemen that we like, we

  • don't realize that they are middlemen?

  • MARINA KRAKOVSKY: Yeah.

  • I do think it's largely a semantic issue.

  • Yes, that if we like them, we call them

  • a retailer or my trusted agent.

  • We don't use the word middleman.

  • I think so.

  • AUDIENCE: Can talk a little bit about the role

  • of universities as middlemen?

  • Because, to some extent, they're certifiers and networks and--

  • MARINA KRAKOVSKY: Yeah.

  • Universities are, definitely, middlemen for the reason

  • that you identified.

  • A lot of people would say that that's

  • actually their main role, is just to certify you.

  • You know, like, oh, you got into MIT.

  • Well, that's good enough for me.

  • I don't even care what you learn at MIT.

  • So that certifier role is really important.

  • They actually work as middlemen in other ways,

  • too, because there's a real-- at least, a two-sidedness.

  • You know, the idea of a two-sided market

  • where the buyers want to be where the sellers are.

  • The sellers want to be where the buyers are.

  • There's a way in which universities are like that.

  • So if you think about a good university,

  • they attract good students because they

  • have great faculty.

  • And then great faculty want to work at a university that

  • has smart, motivated students.

  • And there are other effects like that.

  • AUDIENCE: So, do you see any problems?

  • I mean, all of this sounds excellent.

  • But I'm thinking now of the physician's metric

  • that you mentioned.

  • And do such middleman services actually create

  • behaviors that otherwise would not be created?

  • For example, some people may think,

  • you know, oh, this is a bad doctor.

  • He treated me in a certain way.

  • But the doctor is actually-- his cure is performing well,

  • but his personal skills may not be up to par.

  • So--

  • MARINA KRAKOVSKY: Yes.

  • AUDIENCE: --he gets, like, a bad review.

  • And now you have this network effect

  • which may be multiplying this.

  • And suddenly strange things happen.

  • MARINA KRAKOVSKY: Definitely.

  • Yeah.

  • That is not a perfect system with ZocDoc.

  • I mean, doctors really think-- and a lot of people

  • would say this-- gosh, what business do patients even

  • have evaluating doctors?

  • If you were as expert at medicine as the doctor is,

  • why would you even need a doctor?

  • And you could say that about any of these middlemen services.

  • To a large extent, we turn to middlemen because we cannot,

  • we just don't have that expertise ourselves.

  • And so, I would say that these services

  • do have-- these rating systems do

  • skew the ratings in a certain direction

  • that they measure certain things more than others.

  • Clearly, things like the doctor's bedside manner

  • and how long they kept you waiting

  • weigh heavily, much more heavily,

  • than other factors that somebody else would find important.

  • Yeah.

  • It's not a perfect system.

  • AUDIENCE: Yeah.

  • I was just trying to think about the role of technology

  • taking over middlemen roles.

  • MARINA KRAKOVSKY: Yeah.

  • AUDIENCE: And I just wondering if you

  • have thoughts on are there certain roles

  • or characteristics of these roles of middlemen

  • that are inherently human?

  • That technology, maybe, conceivably

  • could never take over?

  • MARINA KRAKOVSKY: I really don't.

  • I thought about this question as well.

  • And I actually posed it to Al Roth.

  • You guys know Al Roth.

  • He's an economist at Stanford.

  • He won the Nobel Prize a couple years ago.

  • And he thinks a lot about middlemen.

  • Anyway, he says no, that really there's nothing you can say

  • that is like that because there's just no limit.

  • We don't know what artificial intelligence

  • is going to be able to do.

  • I actually talk a little bit about this in this book.

  • I mean, in the same way that we turn

  • to Netflix with its sophisticated collaborative

  • filtering system to recommend movies that we're really

  • going to love, there is no reason, in theory,

  • in my mind, why we can't someday turn

  • to a sophisticated piece of software that

  • will ask us natural language questions to find out

  • about our tastes and ask us to rate past experiences

  • and on the basis of that construct

  • the perfect itinerary for us.

  • That seems like an impossible challenge,

  • but, in theory, I don't see why it's not possible.

  • I'll say one other thing about technology.

  • You know, part of the reason that people were saying

  • that middlemen we're going to go away

  • is that the internet would reduce transaction costs.

  • The cost of finding what you need,

  • and finding out about quality and so on.

  • And it actually has done that.

  • It's reduced transaction costs.

  • And that's why we're able to book our own travel so often.

  • If you're just flying to LA or New York,

  • staying at a hotel you've stayed at before,

  • your transaction costs for doing that on your own

  • is really quite low.

  • And so it makes no sense to turn to a travel agent to do that.

  • But the thing about transaction cost

  • is that the internet has lowered transaction costs

  • for everybody, including middlemen.

  • And so middlemen bring whatever human capital they have.

  • Whatever skills and knowledge they have,

  • they bring it to the task.

  • And then for them, the technology is a complement.

  • So their transaction costs have actually

  • fallen faster than our transaction costs have

  • for the kind of special, complex transactions

  • that we can't easily do ourselves even

  • with the aid of technology.

  • MALE SPEAKER: Though that they can't never

  • go to zero marginal cost for transaction.

  • MARINA KRAKOVSKY: Yeah.

  • I mean, yes.

  • Yes.

  • There's always going to be-- yep.

  • No free lunch, right?

  • MALE SPEAKER: Let's thank Marina for her visit to Google.

  • [APPLAUSE]

MALE SPEAKER: Welcome to "Talks at Google."

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