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  • Hello, Catherine here from BBC Learning English.

  • Just so you know, this programme is from the BBC Learning English archive

  • and was first broadcast in September 2016 on our website.

  • And now on with the show.

  • 6 Minute English

  • from BBC Learning English dot com.

  • Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English. I'm Alice.

  • And I'm Neil.

  • So, Neil, you texted me earlier and didn't put a full stop at the end.

  • You're right, I never use full stops in texts.

  • They're much too 'stuffy' — or formal.

  • Texting is like conversation, you don't need lots of punctuation.

  • Well, punctuation is the subject of today's show.

  • And I know I'm a bit of a stickler about this,

  • but I think you're letting the standards of written English language slip.

  • A 'stickler' is someone who insists on a certain way of doing a particular thing.

  • Surely you aren't such a stickler for punctuation rules

  • that you want to stop the evolution of English, Alice?

  • No, of course not,

  • but I am a stickler when people don't follow the rules of punctuation,

  • because this makes written text 'ambiguous' or difficult to understand.

  • 'Ambiguous' means when something has two or more meanings.

  • Can you give me some examples

  • of punctuation making text easier to understand?

  • All right then, here you are, "Let's eat Grandma."

  • Urgh!

  • It brings to mind the children's story Little Red Riding Hood,

  • about a girl, her grandmother and a hungry wolf.

  • Is that the wolf talking to another wolf friend of his?

  • No, it's the girl, Red Riding Hood, talking to her grandmother.

  • And with a well-placed comma, it becomes, "Let's eat, Grandma".

  • Without proper punctuation, the sentence is ambiguous.

  • Now, before we look at more reasons why punctuation is important,

  • let's have today's quiz question.

  • OK. What is another word for the keyboard sign that represents a paragraph?

  • Is it a) pilcrow? b) bodkin? Or c) pica?

  • Hm, I'll say c) pica.

  • Well, we will find out later in the show if you got that right or wrong.

  • Moving on now, punctuation was invented by the Ancient Greeks.

  • They used a series of dots to indicate different lengths of pauses.

  • A short unit of text was a comma, a longer unit was a colon,

  • and a complete sentence was a periodos.

  • We used these terms to name our punctuation marks

  • although they actually refer to the clauses, not to the dots themselves.

  • So early punctuation wasn't really about grammar, then?

  • No, it was about public speaking.

  • The different dots indicated different lengths of pauses

  • short, medium, and long.

  • These pauses broke up the text,

  • so it was easier to read and therefore easier to understand.

  • OK, let's hear from the punctuation expert, Keith Houston,

  • who is author of Shady Characters:

  • Ampersands, Interrobangs and Other Typographical Curiosities.

  • Here he's talking on BBC Radio 4's Word of Mouth.

  • Punctuation started off being all about rhetoric, about speech,

  • but we started to assign rules, I think around about the 8th century or so.

  • We started to associate the marks, not just with pauses,

  • but with the actual grammatical units they were used to punctuate.

  • So, a comma wasn't just a dot that meant pause for this length of time.

  • It now actually marked out a clause, you know,

  • it marked out a sort of consistent, logical bit of writing.

  • So 'rhetoric' — or the art of persuasive speaking

  • was very important to the Greeks and to the Romans.

  • And to be persuasive, you need to be understood.

  • And these little punctuation marks

  • helped the speaker to deliver their text more effectively.

  • Later on, these marks were given grammatical functions.

  • The comma marks out a 'clause' —

  • or grammatical unit containing a subject and a verb

  • as well as telling the reader to pause briefly.

  • Are you beginning to see why being 'sloppy' — or careless

  • with punctuation isn't a good thing, Neil?

  • Yes, I am.

  • Though recent research into texting and punctuation

  • suggests that people consider messages ending in full stops

  • to be less sincere than ones without.

  • Really?

  • Well, now might be a good time to hear about

  • how it can be hard to make writing unambiguous.

  • We can misinterpret the written word, even with punctuation to guide us.

  • Here's Keith Houston again,

  • talking to Michael Rosen, presenter of Word Of Mouth.

  • Quite often I notice on Twitter and places like that people misunderstand irony.

  • I mean, because we only have text in front of us, not intonation.

  • So, do we need an irony punctuation

  • "Hello, I'm being ironic now" — do we need that?

  • You might say that emoticons are the best way to go about that

  • a little winking emoticonyou know, semicolon, dash, closing parenthesis.

  • Oh, yes, yes, of course.

  • They've invented all these using the punctuation that we have on the keyboard.

  • 'Irony' means using words

  • to mean something that is the opposite of its literal or most usual meaning.

  • But when we're online using email or Twitter, you don't hear the words

  • and that's why it can be hard to know what feelings the writer intended.

  • Mm, that's right.

  • When we use 'emoticons' —

  • facial expressions made out of keyboard characters

  • we can signpost the feelings we intend.

  • Now, Alice, remember I asked you what is another word for the keyboard sign

  • that represents a paragraph? Is it a) pilcrow? b) bodkin? Or c) pica?

  • Yes, I said pica.

  • And you were wrong, I'm afraid. — Oh.

  • The right answer is pilcrow, which comes from the Greek word 'paragraphos'.

  • The earliest reference of the modern 'pilcrow' is from 1440

  • with the Middle English word 'pylcrafte'.

  • Oh, oh, dear, sad face.

  • I hate it when I get the quiz question wrong.

  • Now, can we hear the words we learned today?

  • Yes, they are stuffy, stickler, rhetoric,

  • clause, sloppy, irony,

  • literal, emoticons.

  • Well, that's the end of today's 6 Minute English. Please join us again soon!

  • Goodbye. — Bye.

  • 6 Minute English.

  • From the BBC.

Hello, Catherine here from BBC Learning English.

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