Name: Why Are Black Conservatives Called Uncle Tom?—Larry Elder Talks George Floyd Protests & New Film
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don't you have the right to have your own opinion?

Especially if it's a well-thought-out opinion?

And why would you have a well-thought-out opinion

as reflective of a sellout, of somebody who's an Uncle Tom,

who wishes bad things to happen to fellow members of his own race?

What is the logic behind that? And why is this going on?

And isn't this hurting the country? That's what the movie asks.

Are police actually using deadly force disproportionately against black people? And how does the focus

on police overshadow other monumental problems facing black America today?

Why is believing that black lives matter not the same as supporting the Black Lives Matter

organization? And why are black conservatives often excluded

from mainstream public awareness and discourse? In this episode, we sit down again with radio

talk show personality and bestselling author Larry Elder, who hosts The Larry Elder Show

for The Epoch Times. He is the executive producer of the new documentary “Uncle Tom.”

This is American Thought Leaders ??, and I’m Jan Jekielek.

Larry Elder, it’s such a pleasure to have you back on American Thought Leaders.

Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. As Charlton Heston once said to me, thank

you for letting me borrow your audience. Well, because we're going to talk about Uncle

Tom, on your shirt. This film that you and I have been talking about for a while now. It’s

coming very, very soon. I've been working on this film, Jan, for two years.

Most people are completely oblivious to the history of the Democratic Party, the party

of slavery, the history of the Democratic party, Jim Crow laws, they're erasing all

of the history of this country. They want to cover up history. The real history, not

the revisionist history. If you are educated. White people have been taught a narrative

that has been created. You're ctually miseducated. and that's when I realized that I've been

lied to. I had been misled. It unraveled everything that I knew to be true.

Along with the director, Justin Malone, and it is about the grief that people like Candace

Owens, Herman Cain, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Allen West, and Clarence Thomas

get for simply suggesting that maybe, just maybe, the policies that blacks have been

following, the democratic policies that blacks have been voting for, the left-wing policies

that blacks have been pulling that lever for, maybe we ought to rethink them.

It’s not an angry film. It’s not a film that says: how dare you call us these nasty

names? It’s a film that says: why can’t we have an intelligent discussion about whether

or not we should be supporting school choice? Why can’t we have an intelligent discussion

about whether or not we should be supporting Roe v. Wade? Why can’t we have an intelligent

discussion about whether or not we should be having stronger borders? Because the studies

suggest that unskilled illegal aliens take jobs away from unskilled black and brown workers

and put downward pressure on their wages. Can we have a discussion about this without

my being called an Uncle Tom, a self loather, or a sellout?

Dean McKay is the executive editor of The New York Times and happens to be black. He

hired a conservative as a columnist named Bret Stephens, a never-Trump-er, the kind

of conservative that the New York Times hires as a Republican. Bret Stephens’ first column

had to do with his skepticism about climate change alarmism. That’s all; he didn’t

say “I don’t agree with it.” He just said “I’m skeptical that these alarmist

trends that people are predicting are going to happen.” Mckay said that people contacted

the New York Times angry that they hired this guy, angry that he wrote this column. Mckay

was surprised at the ferocity of people, because he hired a conservative to write a column

that, in his opinion, was very intelligent. Stephens raised some questions about climate

change. Mckay publicly said that he found out “the

left as a rule does not want to hear thoughtful disagreement” [in an interview at Code Conference].

That’s a verbatim quote. I argue that the black left doesn’t even believe there’s

such a thing as thoughtful disagreement. Therefore, we’re not having discussions in the black

community that, in my opinion, are healthy and could lead to a better outcome.

The number one problem in the black community is not racism. It’s not bad cops, although

we both know both exist. The number one problem is the large number of blacks who were raised

without fathers. In 1965, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who later on became a democrat senator from

New York, wrote a paper called “The Negro Family: The Case for National Action”. At

the time, 25 percent of blacks were born outside of wedlock, a number that he thought was horrific.

He felt if we don’t do something, take some sort of national action, this is going to

get worse. We’ll fast forward. Now 70 percent of black kids are born outside of wedlock,

25 percent of white kids now are, and nearly half of Hispanic kids are. Forget about Larry

Elder. Barack Obama once said, “children who grow up without a father are five times

more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; nine times more likely to drop out

of schools and twenty times more likely to end up in prison.” [Barack Obama’s remarks

at the Apostolic Church of God in Chicago on Father’s Day] Now, this is something

that we’re not even having a discussion about.

In my opinion, if you look at the proliferation of kids born outside of wedlock, it parallels

the rise in social spending under the so-called war on poverty that was launched in the mid-60s.

Lyndon Johnson launched it with the best of intentions. He felt that it was going to make

people more self-sufficient. All it did was create dependency. What is done is to incentivize

women to marry the government and incentivize men to abandon their financial and moral responsibility.

It is the number one social problem in America in general and the number one social problem

in the black community in particular, and we’re not having that discussion.

When someone like myself or Bob Woodson, another community activist who’s in the film, raises

these questions, instead of this igniting a healthy discussion, people like myself are

denounced and dismissed as Uncle Toms, as self loathers. Why? That’s what the film

asks. Why can’t we just have an intelligent discussion? Why are you assuming that I have

some sort of malintent behind it? All I’m trying to do is get people to realize their

God-given potential, the same as I assume you’re trying to do, and we just have a

different philosophy about it. I don’t consider you to be self-loathing. I don’t consider

you to be a race traitor because you’re advancing policy that I think hurt [us]. Why

are you making that assumption about me? You know, it’s a very fascinating time to

be talking about this. It’s almost crazy because of this horrible killing of George

Floyd that happened just a few weeks ago and the resulting protests. There are a lot of

very well-meaning people on the streets wanting to support black lives, right? At the same

time, there are a lot of concerns. I’ve heard from a lot of people that there’s

only one way that’s allowed to think about this, and people lose their jobs, their careers,

relationships, and so forth. The narrative is that racism remains a powerful

impediment for black progress in America, whether it’s systemic racism, a term you

hear a lot, structural racism, another term you hear a lot, institutional racism, or one

that I heard Beto O’Rourke come up with, foundational racism. If America were institutionally

racist, why is it that in the 50s if you ask white people, would they ever support a black

person president? The answer was no. Fast forward, Obama got elected. He got a higher

percentage of the white vote than John Kerry did. We’re [still] talking about institutional

racism. It’s crazy. In 2015, Freddie Gray died in police custody.

At the time of his death, the mayor of Baltimore was black, the number one person running the

police department was black, his assistant was black, all the city council members were

democrats, majority black, the state attorney who brought the charges against six officers

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