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  • well thank you

  • not before we get started I I think

  • but you know there are some pioneers of of course

  • we have the pioneers that you're on stage but there were some

  • but the really important thing here is it not

  • they do we just saw and a couple more here in the audience so

  • I meet a poor who is a regular he could you stand up

  • hello

  • and fred get that is to let not come easily for mister knight fred

  • it is in the road but I do want to recognize up

  • our fellow journalist French wonderful fortune who did the last to my knowledge the left

  • and energy these guys did it was

  • not a statement was a fortune magazine interview brenda either through the roof York

  • can you estimate

  • so like it started I'm I was asked that there's a lot of a not a lot of have quite a thing

  • in on the plaza press I think that

  • he wanted said

  • and fact I do think it's a nasty is what do you think each has contributed to the computer

  • and technology industries thank you Steve for bell

  • thanks Chris

  • we'll build built the first software company

  • in the industry

  • I think he built the first all for coming before anybody

  • really in our industry US offer company once except for these kids

  • that's huge

  • I was really in the business model think that pursuing turned out to be the one that

  • work really well you know for the industry

  • so

  • I think that that the the biggest thing was bill was

  • really focused on saw for before almost anybody else

  • it had a clue

  • the that it was really the software

  • as a that's what I see and lot of other things you can say that that's the high road a bit

  • and I think building the company's really hard

  • and

  • the players

  • it requires year

  • greatest persuasive abilities to hire the best people you can keep them

  • %uh keeping that your company keep working you know

  • the best word to the wise hopefully

  • bill's been able to stay with it for

  • all these years

  • bill about

  • the country steven apple

  • well personally fair trial

  • not think Steve jobs up

  • pat

  • with what's being done is quite

  • but not all in if you look back to nineteen seventy seven

  • that helpful to computer the idea

  • it did it would be a mass market machine

  • %uh huh

  • now the bat that was made there by apple uniquely they were other people apart but the idea

  • that

  • this could be

  • the an incredible on power and phenomenon

  • apple pursued that jury

  • and then

  • among the most fun things we did the math it was the macintosh council risky

  • and people may not remember that apple really got the company

  • lisa hadn't done that well in partners some people were saying okay that several proposals

  • good

  • but the

  • that team that the building within the company

  • a pursue that

  • %uh even some days it felt a little ahead of its time up at a record up for the gif

  • Barack and in the twenty K cap

  • I mean I think the defendant

  • yeah

  • he gave a speech wants which is one of my favorites three talked about in a certain

  • sense to rebuild the products that we want to use our south up

  • instead he's really pursue that with incredible to houston elegance that

  • is that a a huge impact on the industry

  • %uh and his ability to

  • always

  • come around and figure out where that next step should be

  • on been phenomenal and what happened literally was failing

  • he went back in

  • marie infuse the

  • %uh inundation

  • and in risk-taking that

  • been but also the industry's benefited immensely

  • up from his his work with both unlikely to be part of it but

  • you know i'd say he's contributed as much spending

  • %uh we've also we also both incredibly lucky

  • to had

  • great partners

  • the we started the companies with

  • and we've attracted great people

  • everything that's been done and microsoft and apple them by just

  • remarkable people

  • none of which is enough year

  • today I you're sort of the I have no doubt that

  • you're certain here so you can wear your distance for all those on the you know where we are

  • on her table

  • so bill mention the happened to you in

  • in nineteen seventy seven and

  • thirty years ago and there were a couple of other computers with

  • which were %uh

  • in get the idea that

  • average people might be able to use them in looking back on it

  • and really average average person might not have been able to use them of by today's standards

  • but it certainly broaden the base of who could use computers

  • I actually looked in Indiana

  • at an apple and from nineteen seventy eight it was a print that rejection

  • and %uh

  • and it said thousands of people have discovered the apple computer that

  • and he also said

  • you don't want to buy one of these computers we put a cartridge it

  • and I think that was that's a a reference to the one of the party or

  • something you wanted to you could write your own programs

  • and so the world and obviously

  • it's as though he has a very strange as that that we have one more

  • it was in the kitchen

  • and there is a old all of what it looked like of the wife

  • and she was taking recipes on the computer with the husband looking on approvingly the

  • of I think

  • now how did that work for the twelfth

  • so on

  • but but just think back to you I I knew the story might so far

  • nineteen seventy seven east I think apple start of the year for instance if the facts

  • are

  • the north at its word ready to live

  • that now than we did debate that the basic and seventy five

  • mostly will of at some people here but I don't think most people know that there was actually

  • a man

  • %uh so much stuff software and that apple to computer

  • to want to talk about

  • what happened there have that

  • how that occurred

  • yeah very

  • the in the health care and a few other companies at about twenty four the done

  • there's some change but the seventy seven

  • group included that tax

  • up here as a barometer of the popular press

  • onto your CD the apple two

  • the regional level to be thinking in terms of basic

  • nothing to do with

  • but that was a fourteen point one

  • %uh where

  • and then most important laws on that

  • I like mate

  • and you can tell this story

  • meanwhile clients

  • my partner was that I was that it wasn't brilliant brilliant guy

  • he writes this basic

  • it is like the best basic on the planet get that stuff that no other basics ever done

  • that the right flank their messages that finds the typings that

  • it's perfect in every way

  • except for one thing

  • which is is it just six points that's not it's not flowing

  • and still work

  • getting a lot of input the people want this basic to be floating point

  • and what worked and what please please make this point 'cause we got to keep learning

  • balmy get back wants to make this one point

  • and he's never got don't want care about people and week

  • he helps them learn to live with this all just become a pretty tight in

  • he's never got around to making one point

  • what usual mysteries of life I don't know

  • yes

  • and so you know microsoft had this very popular really good for the point is it that we end

  • up going to them

  • send help

  • and and how much was that I think your thoughts rose thirty one thousand dollars that are

  • you for that floating point basic I feel left out was spent two days they're getting the

  • cassette

  • because I think that in many ways that people start things of night

  • and

  • that was fun

  • I think the most fun up

  • this is later up the first of all most of us haven't felt tell the story because one

  • that was later and anything not month

  • no it's not

well thank you

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