字幕表 動画を再生する 英語字幕をプリント How do you cook rice? Well, according to one comedian, the BBC needs a few lessons. A YouTube video by stand-up comedian Nigel Ng went viral in just a few hours earlier this month. In the clip Nigel--or rather, his alter ego, Uncle Roger, a middle-aged Chinese man--reacts to a cooking video on BBC food where present Hersha Patel showed how to cook egg fried rice. -Drain it. -Drain... what she doing? Drained the rice? Oh my God, you're killing me woman! Drained the ... she ... she draining rice with colander! How can you drain rise with colander? This is not pasta. I never seen anyone drain rice. Get a nice rice cooker, don't mess with sauce pan like this lady here. Oh, don't mess with colander. Well, Uncle Roger's reaction got a collective nod from people across East Asia. But perhaps the real question is not about cooking rice, but cultural differences. Well, I'm happy to say I'm joined now by both Nigel and BBC Food Presenter Hersha Patel who are both in London. Thank you both for joining us. Nigel or Uncle Roger, I'm not sure what you'd like me to call you. I'll begin with you because clearly you were outraged by what Hersha was doing. Yes, well, thanks for playing that clip, I was giggling, chuckling to it again. I play this character called Uncle Roger was a middle-aged Asian uncle. We call everybody by uncles, aunties back in Asia, right? And it's a character that's an over the top character. So by a rice video, he just get so mad and so angry. And that's where the humor comes from. And I'm just super surprised and super grateful that people seemed to enjoy it. It was really good fun to watch. And it was about a seven-and-a-half minute YouTube video, and I watched it a couple of times. Because just throughout everything she was doing, you were you were outraged by. Do you think that perhaps you were being a little bit mean as well though? Yeah, in hindsight, I was trying my best to just critique the rice preparation technique and not the person, not Hersha herself. And in hindsight, yes, maybe a little bit mean. But again, that's ... that's just a character. I don't actually feel that way towards Hersha, or her rice cooking techniques. You know, I don't do that technique myself. But, you know, everybody cooks rice differently, right? - So... - Indeed. And I suppose we talked a little bit there about the cultural differences of making rice, Hersha, I'll bring you in. Because you know, once he put that video out there, there was a bit of backlash. Just tell me about your reaction. What happened? Well, I had a few comments on my Instagram, it's very slow. People saying: "you don't know how to get rice" and I kind of ignored at first, cause I didn't understand what was going on on. Then I thought I should look at this video. And I watched the video from Nigel and actually, it was really funny. So again, I thought, you know, people are obviously commenting because this video is getting really popular. But then I started to get quite a bit of trolling. And I personally thought the video was very funny, and I think Nigel is very funny. But then, you know, it sort of turned on its head when it started going viral. And people were sort of attacking me for not being able to cook rice properly. And that's when it became a bit of... uh... you know, I guess it's a cultural issue. Ah, rice ... sort of cultural issue. But I suppose you know, just to defend yourself. Do you want to tell us where you learned how to cook rice? Well, that particular recipe I was presenting for the BBC, so it was their recipe, and so I cooked. I won't personally cooked rice in that way. But I understood, I know that there are lots of ways to cook rice. And I know that that is one way that people do cook rice. And I've had people personal messaging me, saying that that's actually how they cook rice. I personally cook it the way my mother told me, basmati rice. You can see that on my Youtube page, Hersha Patel. And so the method that I, you know, was asked to present, I, you know, I presented it, because I took it as a way of cooking rice. Not necessarily my way, but it was the BBC's recipe, and I, you know ... We will take the responsibility for that, Hersha, and you're a professional, so you just keep followed that recipe Nigel, since this video, and since everything that's happened, you two have actually met up? - Yeah. -Yep, we have. So what did the plan ... sorry, go ahead, Hersha. Oh, I just gonna say, you know, I could see that there's a lot of trolling. And I just thought, you know what? I'm not gonna, you know, engage in bullying, but I'm going to get in touch, reach out to Nigel. Sent a message said I thought you are, you know, brilliant, really funny, lets meet up on and move forwards with this. Let's see this is something that's positive rather than, you know, a cultural war or ... Because the Internet can be very volatile. And I wanted to make this a positive thing. Very much so. And Nigel, I suppose the one thing that this does show is that different parts of the world cook rice very differently. It's just one of those universal things. Yeah, yes, yes, that ... that's something I've learned. So what are the plans going forward for you two? We're gonna collaborate. Gonna make a collab video of me and her shot together, probably cooking something. We're still figuring out the exact content of the video. But when we met up, we posted on Instagram story. And I'm gonna make another post later on my Instagram feed saying that we're gonna do a collaboration. And the responses has been pretty, pretty positive. So I'm happy that we're getting to work together on this. - Yeah, I think... - Oh sorry, go ahead. So the idea is that we, you know, we both have a sense of humor. We understand, like you said, there are lots of different ways to cook things. We just want to keep this feeling of having a sense of human being positive and having some fun. Well, I wish you both good luck, and we look forward to seeing the next rice video. Hersha and Nigel, thank you so much. -Thanks a lot. -Thank you.