Oh, I don't know.

The Boston Celtics and the Lakers Celtics rivalry is a big deal.

It's a big deal and even perform that great.

Kobe couldn't buy a shot.

Metta world.

Okay, bailed him out.

You want to talk about palms sweaty and all that stuff?

How about when you look like you've been moving in quick sand?

The broadcasters were mentioning it.

Everyone knew because Kawai was hurt because a wise the entire offensive team, because Kawai is tasked with defending the Greek freak past again.

Who was he going against?

Guys who never want?

Yeah, right.

You're going to get a win because of I.

Hold on.

Hold on now when he did that Kwai in the third quarter, so it didn't get to a Game seven on the road when they were down 15 points singlehandedly brought them back in two minutes.

Made up 10 points.

Now they're down five points heading into the fourth and Kawai one of the game.

I recall Kawai Leonard dribbling around Ben Simmons, who's an excellent defender and shooting a three with time.

Expiring but steady wouldn't deny better.

I mean, anyone anecdotal evidence about Cooper.

What I'm saying is you gave the anecdotal evidence over a couple of games.

We got 20 years of Kobe.

I mean, if you want me to compare 20 years of Kobe too quiet so far, I can't do that.

All I can do is take Kobe at this point in his career and compare the accomplishments at his peak.

How high level did he reach at this point?

And I'm telling you, overall, Kobe is a greater player than Kawai has been questioned.

Under pressure has been better.

Many ask a question, Max.

We all know that Steph Curry is the greatest shooting world, right?

We could see that, right?

Sure.

What would Steph Curry had done if he were playing in the eighties or the nineties?

Shot the hell out of the ball.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

He wouldn't have been the player he is.

You know what?

He got her differently.

They got hurt that it slipped.

David.

Somebody with untied and shoe laces stepped on his ankle, kept beating his forearm.

They'd have sent them to the whole, You know, he goes to the hole with those pretty one handed shot let him try that with the Oakley's in the world, in a way, yeah, and took his head off.

What I'm saying to you is that the game has evolved and it has changed and some of the things that Kobe had to endure.

Kawai has never had to endure that.

But we can't You're ignoring that.

No, no, What we can't do is pluck each guy out of their prime and put them in the other era because they weren't asked to do that.

You don't know if CO I could do that or not.

And you don't know if Kobe could success.

Several that I never want to hear you or not I didn't want to do is compare what they actually did.

But you know, Kobe Bryant can compete right now because it's freedom of movement, Max And what, what what he did with the bumping and grinding on the perimeter.

Defensively, he was getting to the free throw line 10 12 times a game.

My feeling right now he would dominate this air.

Hey would dominate the era this era, writing that Kobe Bryant would dominate any era, he was in not necessarily be the best player but be an M V P candidate.

And I believe where he coming up in this era, he'd be a great three point shooter because he work on it all the time.

Just like I believe.

If Kawai you sent them back to a different era, he would work to make himself great.

The point is, we don't know, but we suspect.

But what we can do is see, what did Kobe actually do when he played?

What is Kawai doing right now?

And we can compare those apples to apples things on their own.

No apples to apples in this equation.

That's the whole point, Max Government.

Let me let me go, Let me go in your wheelhouse just for a second here Because obviously, you know I love boxing, but I'm not like you are more humble.

I'm willing to admit, I don't know boxing to the degree that you dio, you know, yoga.

No boxing.

But my God, do you know your boxing?

One day?

You'll admit you take lessons on basketball.

This way is the difference for someone takes lessons pretty well, right?

I got a question about boxing on the route.

I mean, we watch boxing.

But just answer this quick.

Yesterday are the rules to say the boxing today as they were?

No.

You compare it boxes all the time.

That's right.

What I don't Do you come by.

You know, what I don't do is what you're doing, which is to say, Well, send Floyd Mayweather or Sugar Ray Leonard back to the fifties when you had to fight every you know where the thirties, when you to fight every other week.

That wouldn't have been so tough.

I just don't know that, you know.

How you doing that Cuzzi or John Havlicek with somebody?

I brought up coping.

I don't want when I'm talking about Kobe, just disability.

Um, I'm talking about Kobe I'm talking about and depth about people like that.

You're giving me call what?

You're arguing and all it, if you're looking right now, is more skilled than it's ever been.

I can't argue about the toughness.

You probably have to be tougher back then.

Although more people play defense on more positions now, it is more profession.

The one sport loud with one sport that you can measure objectively is track and field and what we know about that is Jesse Owens, who's the greatest ever right?

Wouldn't be a Top 10 sprinter today, and the reason we know that is we have the times, right?

But I would not argue that the eighth best sprinter in the world is greatest Jesse Owens, because it's how you do in your era.

I find it.

I find it a little bit curious that you're trying to make the order different, that it used to be better in basketball then that the players used to be better.

If you're arguing tougher, I can't really argue against that saying What is a silly game?

And we don't know.

Listen, no, no, listen and learn.

What we're seeing is is that this arrow, like dami just brought it up.

The movement without inhibitions, the freedom that you have.

Let's look at the patients that we see Kawai has.

He would not have been able to do that back in the day because they wouldn't have allowed it because they don't like that movement, but that what I'm saying is he able to do what a 1,000,000 day every player who succeeds in a given air it's tautological right?

Is is has adapted to exceed its succeed in that era.

And I would believe that Kobe would succeed here because he's great and he would adapt himself to the era period.

And I believe that about Kawai to in and out.

So it doesn't really go anywhere.

Well, David Kawai Leonard I mean, he could play in.

I would save my hair because I played 12 years ago.

Uh, and I think his game is physical enough.

But over the course of an 82 game season, pound and pound and pound and why Kobe play 82 games?

What do you mean?

Kobe wasn't an 82 game a year guy, but when accounted Kobe Bryant put in works went account?

No, he's better than Kobe went.

Accounts The numbers.

You don't make the sample size, though.

Max, we're talking about give 20 years of Kobe Bryant toe what, 56 years old.

So, in other words, why have the argument?