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  • Here we go.

  • Video number three from answering questions people had from my gaming setup.

  • You know, the low hanging easy to pluck fruit of YouTube content.

  • While I'm sitting here in my home office with absolutely no materials to be able to use to make videos.

  • All of the parts and stuff are at our warehouse, which we have not been to since the lock down.

  • And then I have nothing here to do videos about.

  • So answering questions you guys have been asking me about my setup has made it kind of easy to make some content.

  • So thank you for that.

  • But the other really common question, not just about the keyboard and the monitor has been J tell us about that chair.

  • Well, um, I already told you about this chair.

  • I tell you about this chair when I first got it about three years ago.

  • But I understand a lot of my viewers air.

  • Probably not.

  • They probably joined since that video and haven't seen it.

  • So this is a long term use a report about my autonomous Perego chair, which is now an old version because they now they have the air go chair too.

  • But that's not this one.

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  • So, like I said about three years ago, a Thomas reached out to us.

  • They sent us a couple of chairs.

  • I've got one here.

  • I've got one of the studio.

  • They're the same company that sent us sit sand desk.

  • They're they're known as a company that's being fairly inexpensive and Maur at an entry level cost point for things like sit stand desks and comfortable long term sitting chairs.

  • They did not sponsor this video.

  • This is just a long term report of someone who's now been using this chair for about three years, and I can tell you right now with the amount people ask me about this chair, I felt that this video was important to make because this chair has a lot of ass tricks with it.

  • If you really want a long term sitting chair, whatever that's called, like up to a 24 hour chair.

  • If you're not sure how chairs were rated the rate in hours, which is meaning how long you could sit in the chair and the posture and support in all of that is, is adequate for your health.

  • And so the highest rated chairs 24 hours, right?

  • If you if you think a $300 or $400 chair is expensive because you're used to seeing $99 chairs at Office Depot or OfficeMax, go to Herman Miller, go to Herman Miller online, look at their prices and then come back and you'll see the perspective of which we're talking about.

  • Now, when we talk about price as someone who used to work in I t.

  • For in an office environment.

  • For years and years, I've sat on the cheap, broken down, hand me down chairs have been passed around the office and have rips in the leather and just they creak in the lean to one side.

  • And then we got some budget, and we actually got some Herman Miller chairs.

  • I can tell you right now that there is legitimately a difference.

  • And the reason why I'm telling you that is to understand a chair in its comfort is a few things you have to know won the support system of the ports support structure of the chair.

  • Clearly, the autonomous chair is a foam padded cloth, but and then the back is a mesh back that has an adjustable lumbar support.

  • No adjustability is important because we all have different shapes of bodies and body types and such, and my perspective of this chair is coming to you from someone that is six foot four inches tall.

  • And that's this many in centimeters.

  • Yeah, I'm a pretty tall dude, but I'm also a pretty big dude.

  • Uh, I've got a 40 inch waist and I also am, um, 250 to £260 depending on my mental state at that time of the year.

  • So I already have a hard time finding a chair that's comfortable.

  • It's one of those things were like a couple of inches in height.

  • Doesn't really seem like that big of a deal until you realize like the lumbar support doesn't actually reach your lumbar.

  • The head supports to Lowe's.

  • Your head's constantly back.

  • The arms are too low because you're just like I'm sagging now because I can't get the adjustability of the arms high enough.

  • It's just like if you've ever sat in the car for someone that's a few inches shorter than you after they drove.

  • When you get in here like everything's all cramped, it's only a couple of inches difference.

  • Yeah, that's the kind of tolerance is we're talking about with my body type when it comes to this chair.

  • So obviously, unless you share an exact body type with me, you your mileage is gonna vary when it comes to something as subjective things.

  • So what I'm gonna try and talk about is not just the comfort of the chair for a guy my size, but also the adjustability of the chair.

  • And then how the chair is held up over the last three years.

  • Not just said in the intro of this video, this is the old version.

  • They have made some changes to the chair with what they call the air go to.

  • Phil has that chair.

  • But then again, Phil weighs like a fraction of what I do when he's a fraction of my height.

  • Therefore, chairs last longer for him.

  • So I feel like I'm a pretty good test of long term durability of this chair when it gets kind of a beating with someone like me who's constantly putting pressure on the gas cylinder and eyes leaning back in the chair.

  • And, yeah, so there's a lot of things to talk about it in terms of construction.

  • It's got all the basic stuff you'd expect the but can actually adjust in and out so you can try and get your knees.

  • And where the cushion meets your knees at a comfortable position.

  • The back rest is all.

  • Obviously, it leans back, and it has a spring that's adjustable in there so that you can determine how stiff it is for a guy my size.

  • I don't feel like it's ever stiff enough.

  • I've got it, Max stiff right now.

  • But when people sit in the chair and the lean back, they always react like they're gonna fall.

  • So I think that could be stiffer.

  • Obviously, it has, ah, gas adjust height on their.

  • Fortunately, the gas adjust on me has not started to leak over time, where it sort of starts to sad.

  • The longer we sit in it, it holds its position.

  • But to be fair, I usually sit with it bottomed out anyway because of my height.

  • The arm rest are adjustable height wise.

  • They're not adjustable angle wise.

  • Some chairs will allow you to take the arm rest an angle them out, which, if you're kind of sitting with a wide sort of ah arm print on your desk like I sort of do that would be welcomed.

  • This chair does not allow that, so I always feel like my arms are on the inside of the support rather than the bottom of my forearm.

  • I feel like they more or less on the outside kind of an angle.

  • It's not that comfortable.

  • A lot of times, adjusting them inward is good, too, because if you're sitting narrow, then you have full support.

  • Not having it pushed on these veins on your arm right here, starting to give you some arm fatigue will talk about long term fatigue.

  • Towards the end of this video, you might have heard right there.

  • Sure.

  • Well, the mic is picking it up, but it's definitely a squeaky chair.

  • But in terms of adjustability, too, they just in and out.

  • But they do not lock their position.

  • Some chairs have not only a button you can lift to make it go up and down, but another button toe lock, the armament in and out position.

  • These just sort of slide around.

  • And what sort of noticed over time is these tend to get looser and really just sort of flop.

  • The left arm rests on my chair that's at the studio is like on its last leg.

  • It's hanging on by a thread.

  • It feels like it's gonna fall off.

  • The screws are not accessible.

  • The screws is not accessible to tighten it up.

  • So once it falls off, it's done.

  • In fact, some folks have reached out to me on Twitter who have the same chair have actually complained.

  • Their arm rests have fallen off, which obviously kind of defeats the entire purpose of being some sort of an office chair.

  • Now let's talk about chair designed for a second here.

  • The reason why you would want a mesh back rather than any sort of a foam backing is because of the fact that the mesh is always gonna contour to your body, and it's not going to wear out or stretch or lose its patting.

  • A lot of high end chairs also have a mesh, but for the very reason that I just described.

  • And I think that one of the reasons why the autonomous chair does not use a mesh pad for the bottom is because of cost.

  • And it's one of those things where the more premium materials you used, the more expensive it's gonna be.

  • Now this chair comes in at a fraction of the price of the high end chairs.

  • When it comes to like Herman Miller and other brands that air, they're using full mesh, but it does have a feature that is a must have for me with chairs, and that is an adjustable head rest because I'm constantly sitting in the non proper position with leading back in my chair with my feet up on the desk.

  • I need some way to support my head, and I don't want it to be on the top of the back dress because that puts pressure on the back of your neck and in concert to cause problems there the head rests on.

  • This is adjustable both the angle and the height.

  • But one of the problems I found with head rests on this chair is it constantly falls out of position.

  • It's like I'll put it up to the highest position.

  • I'm leaning against it, and it's also a mesh head rest.

  • So it's always comfortable.

  • But the and so it breeds is well.

  • That's one reason why you would want to mesh back.

  • It also breathes.

  • You don't get a lot of sweat buildup on your on your back.

  • If you sat in a leather chair for any length of time, even in a cold room, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

  • The problem is, I convince it up, and then sometimes the head rest will just fall down, even though it's got some pretty strong clicks in there in terms of what it holds its position.

  • I think it's just like a little spring and ball kind of a bearing deal that just sort of sits in a position there.

  • Um, sometimes I think the stars just the line and just the blue, but it falls down.

  • It's it's really kind of annoying.

  • It's kind of embarrassing when it happens to other people were watching.

  • There was like I was supposed to do that.

  • The other thing, too, is the way that the neck position is.

  • Um, when it snaps into the angled position, it sounds like you're breaking it.

  • I think it's just a flap of plastic in there that kind of clicks into a position, and so you're literally bending it and it's snapping.

  • It sounds like it's breaking, and the problem is something it's really really allowed.

  • So sometimes if you're leaning against it and you push back too hard, it will snap into another position.

  • And that loud click right behind your head is sometimes enough to give you a headache just from the sound.

  • If you have sensitive hearing like me then that sound right behind your head is not good.

  • In fact, this is what it sounds like over the three years.

  • Let's talk about my complaints with this chair and why I'm reluctant to recommend it, although I would still recommend it at the price point when you compare it to the competition.

  • First of all, let's talk about the competition at the price point of this chair, you're gonna find the stupid racing seats that should never be an office chair to begin with there and this is gonna be totally subjective.

  • But I think a lot of people were gonna agree with me on this.

  • The whole concept of let's take what looks like a racing seat out of a car.

  • I've seen people actually comment like those are real seats.

  • They've taken out of the automotive industry and put wheels on them.

  • No, they're not.

  • They're not.

  • They're not riel automotive seats.

  • They might seem like it, but they've got extremely hard, hard padding.

  • They've got bolstering, which is not necessary for an office chair.

  • In fact, what the bolstering can end up doing is causing you long term fatigue over time of pushing on your pressure points of your thighs and your back, causing you pain.

  • And there's already said they're stiff.

  • They're always leather, which means they don't breathe.

  • You're gonna sweat in them.

  • And then they always come with a stupid pillow that you're supposed to put behind your head because there's literally no ergonomic design to them When it comes to head support, remember, Head rests in the car are designed to do two things.

  • One, they always protrude from the back of the seat, coming forward to meet your heads here.

  • Not like this and then two.

  • They're designed to absorb the impact if you're hit from behind their designed to absorb it, impact and keep your neck straight so you don't get whiplash.

  • They're not meant to sit in all day long.

  • You can think the rise of E Sports and M.

  • L G and all these stupid live streams of promoting these chairs.

  • But obviously I'm speaking from a very subjective standpoint where I have a very strong distaste for the racing seat car chairs, and that's coming to you as a car guy.

  • So let that sink in for a minute.

  • But that was a subjective rant you probably disagree with me and 100% and that's perfectly fine.

  • If you're comfortable, the chair and you like the chair.

  • But by the freaking chair, it's your money.

  • But when it comes to actual comfort, there is why you'll find chairs that look drastically different.

  • Like this is because they use a lot of design.

  • Ah, lot of long term science involved in designing a chair that's comfortable.

  • So the alternative to what you're seeing me sitting now is something like that.

  • Usually at that price point.

  • Now I do know that Office Depot, OfficeMax, all the other office supply stores do have chairs in the couple $100 price range that are very similar to what I'm sitting in right now.

  • That's probably another very worthwhile alternative to the autonomous chair.

  • I've never sat in any of those, so I can't really speak to them.

  • But I can tell you a couple of things.

  • One.

  • This chair is a freaking static nightmare.

  • In fact, this is the chair we used when we did our static tests with our video, we were intentionally shocking.

  • The crap out of a computer because I like to do is sit in it and slide down at once.

  • And I was so charged up I could get a two inch arc to come off of my finger when it comes to touching something three point over there and that specifically because of the cloth bottom and the mesh back.

  • And if you live in a dry environment like I do, because I live in the desert of Southern California and you have a dry, windy day, man, this thing is just charging you up.

  • I mean, sometimes no joke.

  • I'll look down on the hair on my arms, are standing straight up because the amount of static electricity have generated just sitting in this chair.

  • But again, that is specifically because of the mesh and cloth back design.

  • Now, some of the really expensive chairs actually have, like grounding type devices built into the chair that will keep you from becoming statically charged.

  • But the price point of this chair, you're not gonna find that in terms of build quality, I feel like overtime.

  • The wheel bearings have dried out.

  • They're just basic castor wheels.

  • There's nothing super crazy about them.

  • They're not like the hollow, um, the halo design, where they got no smoke or whatever, and they're the kind of a crazy looking deal.

  • Um, in fact, we were at Dream Hack.

  • We were wheeled in the chair from the hotel over to the convention center and the air was really damp and a slight amount of rain happened.

  • And I say Slide him out.

  • I mean, like, it wasn't being actively rained on.

  • There was just some moisture on the ground.

  • It picked up that moisture.

  • It worked its way into the bearings, which are greased water mixed with Greece is obviously not a good thing.

  • And the wheels practically locked up.

  • Now when it all dried out, it did sort of go back to normal.

  • But the wheels do not roll very freely.

  • I'm sitting on carpets.

  • That's kind of a fine deal.

  • But if you're someone that's gonna be moving a chair all around, let's say an I T office or some sort of a lab and you're moving the Cheryl around, you're gonna find it could pick up a lot of dust, a lot of dirt on that bearing, which is not very sealed, and then it's gonna start not rolling Very good as I mentioned already.

  • The the gas canister, the gas piston has held my weight.

  • No problem.

  • Over the years, I already talked about the arm rest wanting to fall off, and I talked about the head rest wanting to fall down.

  • But one of my biggest issues with the chair is it.

  • Amount of adjustability has made it a noisy, creaky mess, and it's not really picking it up.

  • Too bad right now on camera, when I'm in Livestream, Sometimes I make a very subtle movement or adjustment, and that's when it makes all the noise when you barely move.