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  • absolutely fabulous result for Manchester City at the home of Reality Madrid.

  • But Andy, where did that victory come from?

  • Was that a masterclass in tactics?

  • Because let's be honest.

  • At the start of the evening Sterling left on the bench, where are left out?

  • There was a lot of talk.

  • Hang on.

  • Once again, peppers overthought this?

  • Yes.

  • So is he due to a huge amount of credit, It was a blend to me.

  • There was, ah, one nil down.

  • Realmadrid were calling the shots.

  • There's a couple of blocks in Fernandina.

  • Had to come on for the engine report those couple of blocks.

  • If that hadn't happened, Real Madrid take a two goal lead.

  • Very different story.

  • But then the substitution bringing on Raheem Sterling.

  • So maybe gradual.

  • Appreciate.

  • That's why I still was on the bench.

  • Didn't want to start him.

  • What?

  • The games go a certain way and then stick Sterling on.

  • Look what happened.

  • He gets fouled for the penalty city Gonna win the game.

  • So you have to say tactically, he got it right.

  • But it was a couple of elements that those two blocks in Fernandina would just as important as sterling coming on for me.

  • I look they did the job first and foremost, but everyone's talking about how City set out and how Rama troops set out.

  • And for me, I like I said I thought Ron Madrid controlled it in the first half.

  • City grew into the game.

  • I mean, they got a lot more confidence and I think Madrid, you can't really go forward at Man City because if you actually push the numbers forward City of Fantastic on the breakaway and then caught and the one thing you don't want to do is concede at home, especially the Champions League, because then you got to go to the head and score double goal.

  • And I think Madrid had the perfect plan to kind of sit control the game and maybe take the new law and go back to the head.

  • And obviously they got that one.

  • You're up and I was thinking the home at home.

  • The gold came against the run of play than 101 100% and you know, that's where most girls come from mistakes and it wasn't just a kid, but you can't keep making mistakes in the Champions League get away with.

  • It just goes to show, you know, you make one mistake against its great team and I'll punish you and that's what they did.

  • But fair play to Man City.

  • They were coming back into the game.

  • And, like you said, with the substitution of Raheem Sterling coming on, just live in the game up again.

  • Mencia just got stronger and stronger.

  • Think Guardian was looking at that and thinking.

  • Realmadrid wanna look?

  • They're probably happy, very experienced.

  • Jumpers, leaks.

  • I will wonder what we don't go crazy for a second goal.

  • Is that the point?

  • He thinks I'll stick Sterling on to shake this up?

  • Is that why you had him on the bench for the impact that you can make against a team that are controlling the game at one nil?

  • Is that wise to a mom?

  • He's just back from a hamstring, so that may have been a factor when introduced him.

  • But at the start of the game, we're looking you hazers, virtually playing left back DiBona playing as a false nine and going out on the right hand side as well.

  • It was a bold.

  • I think he's do huge credit.

  • It was bold wasn't.

  • I mean, he knows what he's doing.

  • But in the Champions League since he left Barcelona, for whatever reason, it hasn't gone for him.

  • What you do after you, when you go to the bitter bail is you have to contain no matter how strong you think Real Madrid are.

  • First thing you've got to contain them because they're gonna cause you problems.

  • So maybe yes, you get players playing opposition.

  • But when the game settles down, or maybe you have to force the issue a little bit more.

  • Makes institutions than the game changes.

  • And it's just those those moments when Sterling takes on the fullback cover hell dives and he doesn't need to do gives a penalty away.

  • That's what surprised me Ramos as well, making these basic elemental mistakes for an experienced Champions League team.

  • Experienced Champions League play.

  • These were riel, glaring mistakes that they didn't need to make tonight.

  • Was that because they were rattled, hopes again city the change that makes sending sterling on.

  • It's gonna cause you a problem.

  • Whether he's fully fit or not.

  • He is going to commit you and that's all we did recover.

  • You just run it and said.

  • I'm gonna commit.

  • You have to make a challenge.

  • That's why I was sent on.

  • That's what he brings, and it's not necessary.

  • Rattled.

  • It just gives defenders a real problem because he's Pacey and his direct.

  • So sending them on at that time was absolute perfection.

  • I mean, the old expression.

  • If you make a mistake once, That's one thing.

  • Twice his careless has 26 records for rebels.

  • Look, we we all know what Ramos can bring to the football world.

  • He's a fantastic player.

  • Fantastic centre half.

  • But he does see Red missed quite a lot.

  • I mean, look, even the send off even running for them positions do I blame houses for maybe falling over.

  • He feels a little tap on the shoulder.

  • Okay.

  • Isn't enough to fall down?

  • We're never gonna know what.

  • You didn't push him to the ground.

  • He felt a touch on the shoulder.

  • Anything.

  • If that's what you do at this level, that I mean, look for me.

  • When I used to run up players and you'd get that slight little touch, that kind of does put you off on that angle.

  • And then people might think, Oh, well, that's not enough for you to push her over.

  • But again enough enough little touch can push you over into them little things in again.

  • You just give us a hand with that type of player, then running about speed.

  • Do you think there's enough contact there for him to go over again?

  • We still haven't seen it clearly enough that I mean the shoulder there like, but he could have clipped his rule legs.

  • But again, that enough.

  • Maybe if you see the way that is exaggerated, He clearly knows I'm gold side of the centre half.

  • If he makes any contact at all, no matter how slight I'm gonna go to ground, he does exaggerate its the way.

  • Exaggerate.

  • He falls.

  • In a way, we've been shoved in the lower back.

  • It wasn't there was a touch on the shoulder.

  • And he really does Archie's back and go to ground to make the referee absolutely shore.

  • I've been touched here.

  • I don't think he was fouled, but again is that it shouldn't be in that position.

  • The first place defensive experience defender.

  • That's a terrible position to get himself into.

  • So would you be critical of him for going over in that fashion.

  • Um well, a contact doesn't mean foul.

  • I always like to think that a striker would want a score rather be fouled and get freaky or penalty will get a sense of half cent off.

  • But these days, I think strikers do feel differently.

  • Maybe coaches encourage them at this stage.

  • The Champions League.

  • If you feel a bit of contacts and you know he's gonna get sent off, don't be afraid to go to ground.

  • But, you know, that's Alan Shearer.

  • He'd want to score.

  • Yeah.

  • Jesus.

  • Is he thinking about the bigger picture here?

  • Ramos is gonna be out the second leg.

  • Is he taking it all into consideration?

  • And that's why you Maybe it was What?

  • I don't think it has that time to think about all that.

  • I just think naturally he feels the touch he knows is in the position where if it does feel that touch, he's gonna go down.

  • And obviously Ramos is gonna be that last man is definitely gonna get sent off.

  • The concept to me isn't foul foul?

  • Was that if you were back in that Manchester City dressing room and he's one that freak, It and these are beautiful.

  • That course you would.

  • But whether the neutral looking on would say, Is that really in this?

  • But this is the Champions League.

  • This is monster tickets.

  • Realmadrid don't understand why they do it, but I'm not condoning it.

  • I never don't not using the word cheat, but simulation, whatever you call it, what it is.

  • Okay, But is that not good play?

  • No, because you're manufacturing the situation.

  • You're not actually fouled Contact.

  • As I say, concept does not mean fell.

  • You haven't got the right to go to ground.

  • If you feel concept this there's hadn't defended for hands on strikers all the time.

  • If you decide to throw yourself to the ground, you haven't been pushed to the ground.

  • You've manufactured it to make it look like you've been felled worse than you have.

  • But again, that's the way the game is now.

  • That's how strikers behavior strikers do as well.

  • So whether it's something they learn that you feel concept, go to ground because I just don't think you can categorize strikers in doing it.

  • I think centre half's probably one of the best way of doing it now.

  • As soon as you touch us in half.

  • They seem to go down because usually they're big, stronger and you touch them.

  • Nowadays they go down even easier than a striker.

  • Even look at Jesus is first go with the head up.

  • Okay, puts two hands on Ramos.

  • There's a little bit you could could you say That's enough of that from the one that he gets caught with.

  • So why is one a penalty or a foul on one story free credit card and what isn't?

  • And what's the difference?

  • Because, actually what Jesus stills?

  • I don't still don't think that is a foul, but it is more contact than he almost made on him.

  • So, yeah, what sort of result is 21?

  • It seems a strange thing to say, but I wonder how City will approach the second leg because they only have one way of playing on Dhe.

  • They don't need to win that second like they need to manage their way through that second leg on dhe.

  • It be really interesting because Real Madrid have to go for They got everything to gain now.

  • But City don't have to play their natural game by playing their natural game are they playing around with its hands by committing some of the board?

  • Can they play with the handbrake on?

  • But that's what God again, God is Guardiola's way.

  • This is plenty is what we do.

  • But do they need plan A to get past Real Madrid in that second leg?

  • In the past, they've gone, gone home and really gone, it seems, and it sze cost them dearly.

  • I think you will just plays natural way.

  • I haven't seen Guardiola's shy down from any fight and I think he will go there and try to dominate.

  • Is that what they should do?

  • You think you're I think that in his nature and I think he drives that into his team's Thio wanna win and to dominate possession, to dominate the board and then create chances.

  • Well, he not also say to his team.

  • Listen, we've gone to their backyard.

  • We've shown we've got enough to beat them there so you can certainly play your natural game here because of what?

  • Enough to roll them over, Um, again it's gonna be it's gonna be the way City approached.

  • The away game is gonna be very different because they were forced to play a certain way about players playing defensive positions when they're when they're attacking players in essence.

  • But in the second game, Realmadrid will say, Right, we want you to come on set because we want to play on the counter attack so they could use what city are normally really good at against them.

  • Lots of teams have done that over the years and champion city of home promise against Spurs.

  • They had real problems doing against Liverpool.

  • They just get blown away.

  • So it is about management and you think if anyone can can adapt away Team place is gonna be gradual.

  • But is he so set in his ways that this is how city played at home?

  • We go for the jugular.

  • But is that the right thing to do?

  • Well, I think the big thing is if the poor can be back, hopefully the injury is not too big on Lucky, isn't it?

  • Is, I know.

  • But even though Fernandina was excellent tonight, the porter obviously a big part off the back line for Man City and we can be back for that should be no problem for Man city.

  • I just you know, you talk about the way they have it that have adapted tonight in a certain fashion.

  • I think what you said there's really interesting is what will the mindset bay?

  • Because that dictates everything?

  • Well, you know what?

  • You know what cities mindset is.

  • You know what Guardiola's minds as you see City play.

  • They are relentless.

  • That's how they play.

  • They commit bodies forward.

  • But defensively, you're always good for a goal against Man City because that even looking at that with supporting the team is different but that back for with food and that that is the goal they give away.

  • Typical a poor really gold to give away.

  • There's a chance at the end as well.

  • When Kara Walker got lost his bearings, they give you chances.

  • If you commit a lot of bodies on the pitch, yes, you might score and I think City will need to get a couple of goals because defensively we've seen in the Premier League, teams are now working them out and actually being very effective against city, because defensively they're not as strong as they were.

  • Wheat week.

  • I'll tell it a lot that is theoretical, but do you think there was any the fact that they are that have been charged by your way for Do you think there was any element of siege mentality that added two cities desire tonight?

  • I mean Israel, international players, the world class players?

  • Is it possible?

  • Even at that level, you can raise that game?

  • You're going that little bit more because you got the hump.

  • The pressure was on City more than ever, because every game they play the room, the pressure cause people expect so much of them every game there in so many Cup finals there, challenging for all all the honors, eso every game that they play their place.

  • He used to playing under real pressure.

  • But because of what might happen in the seasons to come, this season becomes even more important.

  • The Champions League.

  • We got something in the Premier League is so important.

  • So actually, I really admire what city did because I do feel they're under more pressure than they normally face tonight.

  • I don't think so.

  • I think I said because I just believe they're professional players and they go out and do their job and whatever situation they're in, they wanna win every every single game that they're involved in, and they want to dominate and they want.

  • And that's what Pepper's driven into him.

  • So even this whole think about them not being in the next two years and all that for me, it's still focusing.

  • Well, hopefully they gonna look to win it, But I don't need no more motivation just because it isn't gonna be in a I understand what you're saying, but is it not possibly even your top top player?

  • It's still not possible to add more motivation.

  • If you already pumped, you focused.

  • You're a top class Blair.

  • But then the managed to shoot.

  • By the way, you're not gonna play in the next year since two years condition.

  • Please get me some.

  • Or I don't think a top play would need that motivation.

  • I think a top player knows he's gotta go out there and do his job, no matter what.

  • I don't get when people need to have that extra motivation.

  • I don't understand.

  • You should everybody have fun?

  • Okay, I get it.

  • But I don't think Pet would need to motivate them in that way to say, Oh, hey, guys, this is your only chance for the next two years, by the way, so please give it everything.

  • I don't have to say it, but I think the players, it's such an unusual situation normal.

  • If you fall short in a competition you got next year, they might have next year or the year after.

  • So if they don't do well, this where's God you're gonna be in two years, is still gonna be at the club.

  • Everything could hinge on whether they're in that competition, so that's why my case.

  • But then let's let's face it, they could end up going to a team that's not even in the Champions League, so it doesn't really matter.

  • I mean, I I think personally they just that would just got there and focus on their job.

  • I never liked to take the credit away from the winning team, but were Madrid poor tonight?

  • By their standards, they don't compare well two previous Realmadrid that they're not the real Madrid of old.

  • So I think against not an easy game for City, but it's an easier again.

  • I think we got deliveries in that that's yes looking at that game there.

  • They controlled the game, but We sat and watched it and well, questioning and everyone's saying all Madrid just sticking by that got a lot of possession in their own half and I'm sitting there going Well, they're probably happy because if you actually going at Man City, that dangerous breaking forward so again he's gotta have a game plan and maybe he was just thinking maybe we can nick it by getting I'll do either.

  • So you take him out of that team and suddenly the team was very different.

  • So again, you haven't got Madrid haven't got that power.

  • I know they got some great quality strikers, um, like in Benzema.

  • But just going out.

  • I think Madrid had a plan to just keep it mellow and kind of maybe get 1/2 a chance and get that gold.

  • I said everything was perfect until Rahim stolen came on.

  • Are you both reasonably confident that it's not city through without thinking that not all know know from past experience on how City approached the game?

  • That's why you thinking to one that's them through?

  • I don't think I don't really don't think I don't agree, although we thinking like that, it's all very interesting.

  • See how what she picks on how they approach that, that second like agree?

  • As much as I would like to say, City you're through, you know that they're going to concede.

  • Okay, well, that's Manchester City.

  • What about Chelsea and Tottenham?

  • And Liverpool said all failed to register on the score sheet in the first leg so well for May.

  • They cannot let you go do what they did at their stadium, if at Anfield, if they had the same referee.

  • And like I said, I watched that game in like Liverpool for me dominate and don't get me wrong.

  • I've left fled to go play a certain way very defensively and catch teams on the counterattack.

  • Look for set pieces and they got their goal and they did play well.

  • But with the way that certain things happened in the game like fouls and all that in cop coming out, saying he had to bring plays off because you didn't want them to be sent off.

  • That does play a little bit in there and I know the referees are different in certain leagues and I personally think it's gonna be a very tough game for Liverpool.

  • I really do.

  • But I think it will depend on the referee how the referee controls the situation.

  • So then the atmosphere unfilled is a no show at the game.

  • Athletic awas, extraordinary atmosphere.

  • It will be the same.

  • But it will be living in reverse and I think Liverpool will.

  • I think people do that turn around.

  • I fled to go do go there and you know the exact way that gun.

  • But you have to break him down.

  • You have all the tricks in the book.

  • And again, I think if the referee states sets the store the rule out straight away off, no, one time wasting no silly fouls in, I think, therefore Walcott the result.

  • But if you get a referee that's playing the gang could be difficult.

  • Okay?

  • Are you less confident that that will Chelsea?

  • Obviously after that they come up against an excellent buying side on Frank Lamb polled said, You know, they were outclassed.

  • It was sobering.

  • That was quite revealing as well, when he said, We've all got to look ourselves individually very much include myself in that.

  • Yeah, he said, You have to look at your opponent.

  • Did I do my job.

  • Did you know I get my part right?

  • Yeah.

  • So I think there's a lot of reflection after buying Unit were excellent, experienced in a hurry.

  • And I we talked about this about maybe again, Frank Lampard tactically.

  • Okay, youngest team.

  • But there's still elements of that very experienced, very good senior players in that team as well.

  • And it's good that Frank has not said it's just because I've got a young team that the game went the way that it did.

  • He's saying, Maybe I got some of this tactically wrong as well.

  • We talked about kind of the youth in the team, the energy and the team.

  • Do you maybe have to again?

  • I know you're home.

  • So do you feel obliged to be on the front foot?

  • Plan against buying?

  • Is that the sensible thing to do?

  • Maybe sitting back and play let Veronica.

  • But that comes again.

  • Franks and inexperience coach.

  • He's played a lot course in the Champions League, but he's managing the championship and then taking on the church again.

  • The expectations are huge.

  • We're learning about him as much of ballooning about the place, and he's willing to accept maybe he'd be tactically wrong as well.

  • Yeah, I think so.

  • And I think he's got a look at his opponents like by Meunier a fantastic team.

  • I mean, that movement they're passing it was with Sensation Tiago just running the show.

  • I mean, the power in the wings, wings that they've got was was fantastic.

  • And I just feel Chelsea should have just changed their their their way.

  • And you talk about just because they're at home, they feel that they've got to go on the front four.

  • I watched also.

  • Napoli versus Barcelona.

  • Napoli defended right in the 18 yard books because they know if they go against Barcelona, they're gonna get destroyed.

  • So you have to change that.

  • You know, you have to.

  • Just so you said you're not having this home in a way, things are, you know, you don't think there's any difference between playing away from home or No, I don't know.

  • I don't understand it.

  • When players will say, Oh, we're away from home, you know, And you still playing on the grass pitch.

  • The only difference is, is the fans are probably in a different color shirt.

  • That's everything.

  • Generally didn't find it different.

  • I infuriated me that would come across players that was scared to play away from home to talk.

  • I don't see the difference so scared to play, but the atmosphere, well, how you feel in a way, people are a little.

  • I've always come across that you should be able to perform even if there was only one man watching you.

  • Yeah, right, 200,000 people, which you should be able to do your job the right way.

  • There's no way did it not affect your performance ever, whether you're home or away.

  • No, not one bit, Not one bit.

  • Do you accept that you're very much in the minority and football in that way of thinking?

  • Better?

  • Mind you, said Houston Fury you the way your colleague spoke?

  • You hear managers talk about it now.

  • And, you know, obviously there's the gold scored away from home a collector element in the Champions League, but it's always been very much accepted.

  • Result away from home is tougher than you think.

  • It seems like Barcelona who do their peak.

  • It didn't matter whether they played homer away because their game dominated the opposition.

  • So home, in a way, was taken out of the equation that we just great teams and I always felt I just felt different stepping out.

  • No, I didn't.

  • I wasn't scared to play.

  • But you did feel that the onus is on you or me or our three.

  • Onus is on them to come forward to you.

  • If you just asked me, Are you scared to play?

  • Not scared, but you have always maintained whenever we've spoken that it should be no difference in any different that their home or away no difference and men.

  • And it's the man city players going out there in the burn about Should they be scared?

  • Cause there's any 1000 people that no chance, no chance.

  • You're scared.

  • It scares the wrong.

  • I don't mean you're intimidated.

  • Just actually you I think you know psychologically, you fi, I felt different playing.

  • It's not just necessarily playing against Millwall are plenty really tough grounds to go anywhere.

  • It did feel home in a way to me, did feel very different, but I wasn't scared, but I actually enjoyed it a lot more pulling away from home because if you can frustrate a crowd 15 20 minutes, you can feel the crowd turn.

  • Then suddenly an away game becomes like a home game.

  • So I enjoyed actually winning away more than maybe winning at home, because you have to do things slightly differently to get the job done.

  • So I psychologically felt different, stepping out on sooner in a way pitch.

absolutely fabulous result for Manchester City at the home of Reality Madrid.

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