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AND THE PRESIDENT HAS DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO REASSURE
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO REASSURE MARKETS, TO REASSURE AMERICANS.
MARKETS, TO REASSURE AMERICANS. >> IT’S BECOMING MORE AND MORE
>> IT’S BECOMING MORE AND MORE OBVIOUS THAT WE’RE NOT READY.
OBVIOUS THAT WE’RE NOT READY. AFTER VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE
AFTER VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE ON FRIDAY CONFIRMED THAT 21
ON FRIDAY CONFIRMED THAT 21 PEOPLE ABOARD A "GRAND PRINCESS"
PEOPLE ABOARD A "GRAND PRINCESS" CRUISE SHIP THAT IS BEING HELD
CRUISE SHIP THAT IS BEING HELD OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA HAVE
OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA HAVE TESTED POSITIVE FOR THE
TESTED POSITIVE FOR THE CORONAVIRUS, THE "LOS ANGELES
CORONAVIRUS, THE "LOS ANGELES TIMES" REPORTS THE SHIP IS
TIMES" REPORTS THE SHIP IS EXPECTED TO DOCK TODAY AT THE
EXPECTED TO DOCK TODAY AT THE PORT OF OAKLAND WITH ALL OF THE
PORT OF OAKLAND WITH ALL OF THE NEARLY 3,000 PASSENGERS SET TO
NEARLY 3,000 PASSENGERS SET TO BE QUARANTINED FOR 14 DAYS AT
BE QUARANTINED FOR 14 DAYS AT MILITARY INSTALLATIONS,
MILITARY INSTALLATIONS, ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. KEEP IN MIND, THEY TESTED 46
KEEP IN MIND, THEY TESTED 46 PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. 21 OF THEM HAVE THE VIRUS.
21 OF THEM HAVE THE VIRUS. HERE IS HUD SECRETARY BEN CARSON
HERE IS HUD SECRETARY BEN CARSON YESTERDAY.
YESTERDAY. >> THE VICE PRESIDENT MET WITH
>> THE VICE PRESIDENT MET WITH THE CEOs OF THE MAJOR CRUISE
THE CEOs OF THE MAJOR CRUISE SHIP COMPANIES YESTERDAY, AND
SHIP COMPANIES YESTERDAY, AND THEY ARE COMING UP WITH A PLAN
THEY ARE COMING UP WITH A PLAN WITHIN 72 HOURS OF THAT MEETING.
WITHIN 72 HOURS OF THAT MEETING. >> THE SHIP IS DOCKING TOMORROW.
>> THE SHIP IS DOCKING TOMORROW. >> THE PLAN WILL BE IN PLACE BY
>> THE PLAN WILL BE IN PLACE BY THAT TIME.
THAT TIME. BUT I DON’T WANT TO PREVIEW THE
BUT I DON’T WANT TO PREVIEW THE PLAN RIGHT NOW.
PLAN RIGHT NOW. >> SHOULDN’T YOU BE ABLE TO DO
>> SHOULDN’T YOU BE ABLE TO DO THAT?
THAT? >> I THINK IT NEEDS TO ALL COME
>> I THINK IT NEEDS TO ALL COME FROM A SOLITARY SOURCE.
FROM A SOLITARY SOURCE. WE SHOULDN’T HAVE 16 PEOPLE
WE SHOULDN’T HAVE 16 PEOPLE SAYING WHAT THE PLAN IS.
SAYING WHAT THE PLAN IS. >> OKAY.
>> OKAY. >> PARTICULARLY WHEN IT HASN’T
>> PARTICULARLY WHEN IT HASN’T BEEN FULLY FORMULATED.
BEEN FULLY FORMULATED. >> REV, THE INCOMPETENCE --
>> REV, THE INCOMPETENCE -- >> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
>> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. >> -- IS MIND-BOGGLING.
>> -- IS MIND-BOGGLING. YOU HAVE THIS CRUISE LINER WE’VE
YOU HAVE THIS CRUISE LINER WE’VE KNOWN ABOUT FOR SOME TIME.
KNOWN ABOUT FOR SOME TIME. WE KNEW LAST WEEK THAT OVER
WE KNEW LAST WEEK THAT OVER 3,000 PEOPLE WERE ON THE SHIP.
3,000 PEOPLE WERE ON THE SHIP. THEY TESTED OVER 40 OR 45.
THEY TESTED OVER 40 OR 45. HALF OF THOSE PEOPLE TESTED
HALF OF THOSE PEOPLE TESTED POSITIVE.
POSITIVE. THAT MEANS OVER 3,000 PEOPLE
THAT MEANS OVER 3,000 PEOPLE STILL NOT TESTED.
STILL NOT TESTED. THAT WAS LAST WEEK.
THAT WAS LAST WEEK. BEN CARSON IS SAYING -- HE GOES
BEN CARSON IS SAYING -- HE GOES ON -- AND HE IS THE
ON -- AND HE IS THE ADMINISTRATION SPOKESPERSON
ADMINISTRATION SPOKESPERSON YESTERDAY, AND HE IS SAYING THEY
YESTERDAY, AND HE IS SAYING THEY HAVE NO PLAN.
HAVE NO PLAN. >> HE IS A DOCTOR.
>> HE IS A DOCTOR. >> DR. BEN CARSON, THEY HAVE NO
>> DR. BEN CARSON, THEY HAVE NO PLAN.
PLAN. THEY MIGHT HAVE A PLAN IN 72
THEY MIGHT HAVE A PLAN IN 72 HOURS.
HOURS. HE CAN’T TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT
HE CAN’T TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT THAT PLAN.
THAT PLAN. IT’S LIKE DONALD TRUMP SAYING ON
IT’S LIKE DONALD TRUMP SAYING ON FRIDAY, I DON’T WANT THAT SHIP
FRIDAY, I DON’T WANT THAT SHIP TO DOCK BECAUSE THAT WILL JUST
TO DOCK BECAUSE THAT WILL JUST MEAN THAT THERE ARE MORE
MEAN THAT THERE ARE MORE REPORTED NUMBERS OF THE
REPORTED NUMBERS OF THE CORONAVIRUS.
CORONAVIRUS. AS IF, SOMEHOW, THOSE NUMBERS
AS IF, SOMEHOW, THOSE NUMBERS BEING REPORTED SOMEWHERE IS
BEING REPORTED SOMEWHERE IS GOING TO CHANGE THE REALITY.
GOING TO CHANGE THE REALITY. THAT’S THE THING, THESE PEOPLE
THAT’S THE THING, THESE PEOPLE AREN’T IN TOUCH WITH THE REALITY
AREN’T IN TOUCH WITH THE REALITY OF THE FACT THAT THE VIRUS DOES
OF THE FACT THAT THE VIRUS DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THEIR STUPID
NOT CARE ABOUT THEIR STUPID POLITICIAN
POLITICIAN POLITICIANS.
POLITICIANS. THE VIRUS DOES NOT CARE ABOUT
THE VIRUS DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THEIR STUPID STUNTS ON THE HOUSE
THEIR STUPID STUNTS ON THE HOUSE FLOOR.
FLOOR. THE VIRUS DOES NOT CARE ABOUT
THE VIRUS DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THEIR STUPID DENIALS OR THEIR
THEIR STUPID DENIALS OR THEIR ATTACKS ON THE PRESS OR ON
ATTACKS ON THE PRESS OR ON DEMOCRATS OR ON INTERNATIONAL
DEMOCRATS OR ON INTERNATIONAL HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS.
HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS. THE VIRUS IS GOING TO KILL
THE VIRUS IS GOING TO KILL AMERICANS REGARDLESS OF THEIR
AMERICANS REGARDLESS OF THEIR STUPIDITY.
STUPIDITY. ACTUALLY, BECAUSE OF THEIR
ACTUALLY, BECAUSE OF THEIR STUPIDITY.
STUPIDITY. I MEAN, HELP US OUT HERE, REV.
I MEAN, HELP US OUT HERE, REV. DID YOU SEE ANYTHING THIS
DID YOU SEE ANYTHING THIS WEEKEND THAT GAVE YOU A REASON
WEEKEND THAT GAVE YOU A REASON TO HOPE?
TO HOPE? >> NOT AT ALL.
>> NOT AT ALL. NOT FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION.
NOT FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION. WHEN YOU LOOK AT, VERY
WHEN YOU LOOK AT, VERY CAREFULLY, WHAT SECRETARY CARSON
CAREFULLY, WHAT SECRETARY CARSON SAID, HE SAID THAT THEY WILL
SAID, HE SAID THAT THEY WILL HAVE A PLAN IN A FEW DAYS.
HAVE A PLAN IN A FEW DAYS. THEN WHEN HE IS CHALLENGED,
THEN WHEN HE IS CHALLENGED, WELL, THEY’RE DOCKING TOMORROW,
WELL, THEY’RE DOCKING TOMORROW, OH, THAT’S RIGHT, THEY’RE
OH, THAT’S RIGHT, THEY’RE DOCKING TOMORROW, BUT I’M NOT
DOCKING TOMORROW, BUT I’M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT THE PLAN
GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT THE PLAN IS.
IS. BECAUSE HE JUST TOLD YOU THEY
BECAUSE HE JUST TOLD YOU THEY DIDN’T HAVE A PLAN.
DIDN’T HAVE A PLAN. WE’RE PLAYING GAMES WITH
WE’RE PLAYING GAMES WITH PEOPLE’S LIVES.
PEOPLE’S LIVES. WE ARE IN DANGER.
WE ARE IN DANGER. PUT THE PARTISAN POLITICS ASIDE
PUT THE PARTISAN POLITICS ASIDE FOR A MOMENT AND YOU OR MY
FOR A MOMENT AND YOU OR MY DISDAIN FOR THE PRESIDENT.
DISDAIN FOR THE PRESIDENT. FOR THE PRESIDENT TO STAND THERE
FOR THE PRESIDENT TO STAND THERE WITH A CAMPAIGN HAT ON AND TRY
WITH A CAMPAIGN HAT ON AND TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE AT BAY SO HE CAN
TO KEEP PEOPLE AT BAY SO HE CAN PLAY WITH THE NUMBERS FOR
PLAY WITH THE NUMBERS FOR POLITICAL REASONS, WHILE WE’RE
POLITICAL REASONS, WHILE WE’RE SEEING PEOPLE OF ALL PARTIES,
SEEING PEOPLE OF ALL PARTIES, ALL RACES, ALL ECONOMIC
ALL RACES, ALL ECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS IN JEOPARDY HERE, IS
BACKGROUNDS IN JEOPARDY HERE, IS AS CALLOUS AND IMMORAL AND SICK
AS CALLOUS AND IMMORAL AND SICK AS ONE CAN BE.
AS ONE CAN BE. WE’RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING
WE’RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN BUT THAT IS
THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN BUT THAT IS HAPPENING.
HAPPENING. THEY’RE PLAYING GAMES WITH HOW
THEY’RE PLAYING GAMES WITH HOW IT SPINS IN SOME POLITICAL BACK
IT SPINS IN SOME POLITICAL BACK ROOMMENT
ROOMMENT ROOM.
ROOM. I THINK THAT WE ARE IN A VERY
I THINK THAT WE ARE IN A VERY SERIOUS PLACE.
SERIOUS PLACE. IF REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS
IF REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS CANNOT COME TOGETHER AND CALL ON
CANNOT COME TOGETHER AND CALL ON THIS PRESIDENT TO BE HONEST AND
THIS PRESIDENT TO BE HONEST AND CANDID, WE ARE GOING TO BE THE
CANDID, WE ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO HUMAN
ONES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO HUMAN LIFE BEING LOST.
LIFE BEING LOST. THIS IS BEYOND THE POLITICS OF
THIS IS BEYOND THE POLITICS OF THE HOUR.
THE HOUR. >> AND WE WERE VERY CRITICAL
>> AND WE WERE VERY CRITICAL AROUND THIS SET OF PRESIDENT
AROUND THIS SET OF PRESIDENT OBAMA WHEN WE HAD THE GULF OIL
OBAMA WHEN WE HAD THE GULF OIL SPILL.
SPILL. THE PRESIDENT DECIDED, INSTEAD
THE PRESIDENT DECIDED, INSTEAD OF GOING DOWN TO THE GULF COAST
OF GOING DOWN TO THE GULF COAST AND PANAMA CITY WHERE THE OIL
AND PANAMA CITY WHERE THE OIL SPILL WAS, I THINK IT WAS 2011
SPILL WAS, I THINK IT WAS 2011 OR SO, HE DECIDED TO GO HOME FOR
OR SO, HE DECIDED TO GO HOME FOR THE WEEKEND IN CHICAGO FOR A
THE WEEKEND IN CHICAGO FOR A LONG MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND.
LONG MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND. VERY CRITICAL OF HIM FOR NOT
VERY CRITICAL OF HIM FOR NOT GOING.
GOING. >> IT WAS ABOUT OPTICS MOSTLY.
>> IT WAS ABOUT OPTICS MOSTLY. >> INSTEAD OF GOING AND
>> INSTEAD OF GOING AND RESPONDING.
RESPONDING. HERE, YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT
HERE, YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT CONTINUES GOLFING, DESPITE THE
CONTINUES GOLFING, DESPITE THE FACT HE MOCKED BARACK OBAMA
FACT HE MOCKED BARACK OBAMA ENDLESSLY FOR GOLFING, I THINK
ENDLESSLY FOR GOLFING, I THINK EVEN DURING AN EBOLA OUTBREAK.
EVEN DURING AN EBOLA OUTBREAK. MOCKED HIM CONSTANTLY FOR
MOCKED HIM CONSTANTLY FOR GOLFING, AND THAT’S WHAT THE
GOLFING, AND THAT’S WHAT THE PRESIDENT DID THIS WEEKEND WHILE
PRESIDENT DID THIS WEEKEND WHILE WORLD MARKETS SHUTTERED AND
WORLD MARKETS SHUTTERED AND AMERICANS LIVED IN FEAR,
AMERICANS LIVED IN FEAR, WONDERING IF THEY’RE NEXT.
WONDERING IF THEY’RE NEXT. HERE WAS A PRESIDENT ON FRIDAY
HERE WAS A PRESIDENT ON FRIDAY TALKING ABOUT THE CRUISE SHIP
TALKING ABOUT THE CRUISE SHIP WHERE AMERICANS ARE BASICALLY
WHERE AMERICANS ARE BASICALLY IMPRISONED.
IMPRISONED. THE WHITE HOUSE HAS ABSOLUTELY
THE WHITE HOUSE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO PLANS --
NO PLANS -- >> 3,000 PEOPLE.
>> 3,000 PEOPLE. >> -- TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.
>> -- TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. OVER 3,000 AMERICANS.
OVER 3,000 AMERICANS. TAKE A LOOK.
TAKE A LOOK. >> THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE
>> THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE PEOPLE COME OFF.
PEOPLE COME OFF. I’D RATHER HAVE THE PEOPLE STAY.
I’D RATHER HAVE THE PEOPLE STAY. I’D GO WITH THEM.
I’D GO WITH THEM. I TOLD THEM TO MAKE THE FINAL
I TOLD THEM TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.
DECISION. I LIKE THE NUMBERS BEING WHERE
I LIKE THE NUMBERS BEING WHERE WE ARE.
WE ARE. I DON’T NEED TO HAVE THE NUMBERS
I DON’T NEED TO HAVE THE NUMBERS DOUBLE BECAUSE OF ONE SHIP THAT
DOUBLE BECAUSE OF ONE SHIP THAT WASN’T OUR FAULT.
WASN’T OUR FAULT. AS OF THE TIME I LEFT THE PLANE
AS OF THE TIME I LEFT THE PLANE WITH YOU, WE HAD 240 CASES.
WITH YOU, WE HAD 240 CASES. I BELIEVE THAT’S WHAT WAS ON A
I BELIEVE THAT’S WHAT WAS ON A VERY FINE NETWORK KNOWN AS FOX
VERY FINE NETWORK KNOWN AS FOX NEWS.
NEWS. YOU V LO IT
YOU V LO IT I KNOW YOU LOVE IT, BUT THAT’S
I KNOW YOU LOVE IT, BUT THAT’S WHAT I WAS WATCHING.
WHAT I WAS WATCHING. HOW WAS THE SHOW LAST NIGHT?
HOW WAS THE SHOW LAST NIGHT? DID IT GET GOOD RATINGS?
DID IT GET GOOD RATINGS? I HEARD IT BROKE ALL RATINGS
I HEARD IT BROKE ALL RATINGS RECORDS.
RECORDS. THAT’S WHAT THEY TOLD ME.
THAT’S WHAT THEY TOLD ME. I LIKE THIS STUFF.
I LIKE THIS STUFF. YOU KNOW, MY UNCLE WAS A GREAT
YOU KNOW, MY UNCLE WAS A GREAT PERSON.
PERSON. HE TAUGHT AT MIT FOR, I THINK, A
HE TAUGHT AT MIT FOR, I THINK, A RECORD NUMBER OF YEARS.
RECORD NUMBER OF YEARS. HE WAS A GREAT SUPER GENIUS.
HE WAS A GREAT SUPER GENIUS. DR. JOHN TRUMP.
DR. JOHN TRUMP. I LIKE THIS STUFF.
I LIKE THIS STUFF. I REALLY GET IT.
I REALLY GET IT. PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED THAT I
PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED THAT I UNDERSTAND IT.
UNDERSTAND IT. EVERY ONE OF THESE DOCTORS SAID,
EVERY ONE OF THESE DOCTORS SAID, HOW DO YOU KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT
HOW DO YOU KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT THIS?
THIS? MAYBE I HAVE A NATURAL ABILITY.
MAYBE I HAVE A NATURAL ABILITY. MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT
MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD OF RUNNING FOR
INSTEAD OF RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. I TOLD THEM NOT TO BE COMPLIMENT
I TOLD THEM NOT TO BE COMPLIMENT COMPLIMENTARY OF THE GOVERNOR
COMPLIMENTARY OF THE GOVERNOR BECAUSE HE IS A SNAKE.
BECAUSE HE IS A SNAKE. IF WE COME UP WITH A CURE
IF WE COME UP WITH A CURE TOMORROW, EVERYTHING GONE, YOU
TOMORROW, EVERYTHING GONE, YOU GO UP TO THIS GOVERNOR, WHO IS
GO UP TO THIS GOVERNOR, WHO IS NOT A GOOD GOVERNOR, AND SAY,
NOT A GOOD GOVERNOR, AND SAY, HOW DID TRUMP DO, HE’D SAY, HE
HOW DID TRUMP DO, HE’D SAY, HE DID A TERRIBLE JOB.
DID A TERRIBLE JOB. >> HERE WE ARE AGAIN.
>> HERE WE ARE AGAIN. THE PRESIDENT GOES TO THE CENTER
THE PRESIDENT GOES TO THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL TO TRY TO
FOR DISEASE CONTROL TO TRY TO CALM AMERICANS’ NERVES.
CALM AMERICANS’ NERVES. THAT’S WHY PRESIDENTS GO THERE,
THAT’S WHY PRESIDENTS GO THERE, LET THEM KNOW THEY’RE IN CHARGE.
LET THEM KNOW THEY’RE IN CHARGE. THIS PRESIDENT INSTEAD -- OF
THIS PRESIDENT INSTEAD -- OF COURSE, WEARING A CAMPAIGN HAT.
COURSE, WEARING A CAMPAIGN HAT. NO PRESIDENT -- I’M SORRY.
NO PRESIDENT -- I’M SORRY. MAYBE IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL.
MAYBE IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL. MAYBE YOU THINK IT IS NOT A BIG
MAYBE YOU THINK IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL.
DEAL. HE DIVIDES AMERICA IN HALF WEN
HE DIVIDES AMERICA IN HALF WEN HE WEARS THE HALF.
HE WEARS THE HALF. THOSE OF YOU ROLLING YOUR EYES
THOSE OF YOU ROLLING YOUR EYES AT ME SAYING THAT, IF BARACK
AT ME SAYING THAT, IF BARACK OBAMA WENT TO THE CENTER OF
OBAMA WENT TO THE CENTER OF DISEASE CONTROL AND WORE AN
DISEASE CONTROL AND WORE AN OBAMA/BIDEN HAT IN 2012, YOU
OBAMA/BIDEN HAT IN 2012, YOU WOULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY FREAKED
WOULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY FREAKED OUT.
OUT. SO HE WEARS A CAMPAIGN HAT.
SO HE WEARS A CAMPAIGN HAT. RICHARD, HE SAYS, I LIKE THE
RICHARD, HE SAYS, I LIKE THE NUMBERS WHERE THEY ARE, TALKING
NUMBERS WHERE THEY ARE, TALKING ABOUT THE INFECTIONS.
ABOUT THE INFECTIONS. HE DOESN’T WANT THE CRUISE SHIP
HE DOESN’T WANT THE CRUISE SHIP TO COME ON SHORE BECAUSE THAT
TO COME ON SHORE BECAUSE THAT WILL INCREASE THE NUMBERS.
WILL INCREASE THE NUMBERS. WHICH MEANS HE’LL ACTUALLY HAVE
WHICH MEANS HE’LL ACTUALLY HAVE A BETTER GRASP OF REALITY.
A BETTER GRASP OF REALITY. HE TALKS ABOUT FOX NEWS, ASKED
HE TALKS ABOUT FOX NEWS, ASKED HOW HIS RATINGS WERE AT A TOWN
HOW HIS RATINGS WERE AT A TOWN HALL MEETING THE NIGHT BEFORE.
HALL MEETING THE NIGHT BEFORE. AGAIN, IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS
AGAIN, IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS BRIEFING.
BRIEFING. HE TALKS ABOUT HIS MIT UNCLE
HE TALKS ABOUT HIS MIT UNCLE AGAIN, SUPER GENIUS.
AGAIN, SUPER GENIUS. HE SAYS THAT ALL THE DOCTORS ASK
HE SAYS THAT ALL THE DOCTORS ASK HOW HE KNOWS SO MUCH ABOUT THIS.
HOW HE KNOWS SO MUCH ABOUT THIS. NONE OF THE DOCTORS ASK THAT
NONE OF THE DOCTORS ASK THAT QUESTION.
QUESTION. HE IS LYING AGAIN.
HE IS LYING AGAIN. THEN HE DECIDES TO CHOOSE THE
THEN HE DECIDES TO CHOOSE THE GOVERNOR WHO HAS TAKEN THE
GOVERNOR WHO HAS TAKEN THE GREATEST BRUNT OF THIS, HAD THE
GREATEST BRUNT OF THIS, HAD THE MOST AMERICANS DIE THERE, AND
MOST AMERICANS DIE THERE, AND DECIDES TO CALL HIM A, QUOTE,
DECIDES TO CALL HIM A, QUOTE, SNAKE.
SNAKE. HE ALSO LIES ABOUT THE TEST
HE ALSO LIES ABOUT THE TEST KITS, AS WE SAID BEFORE.
KITS, AS WE SAID BEFORE. IF YOU WANT A TEST KIT, YOU CAN
IF YOU WANT A TEST KIT, YOU CAN HAVE A TEST KIT.
HAVE A TEST KIT. SAYS THEY ARE PERFECT, JUST LIKE
SAYS THEY ARE PERFECT, JUST LIKE HIS CALL TO THE UKRAINE -- ABOUT
HIS CALL TO THE UKRAINE -- ABOUT UKRAINE.
UKRAINE. THIS IS -- I DON’T HAVE TO
THIS IS -- I DON’T HAVE TO EVEN -- I DON’T -- THIS IS WHAT
EVEN -- I DON’T -- THIS IS WHAT YOU -- THIS SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
YOU -- THIS SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. HE IS UNQUALIFIED AND UNFIT TO
HE IS UNQUALIFIED AND UNFIT TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
STATES. AND UNFIT AT ONE OF THE MOST
AND UNFIT AT ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS TIMES THIS COUNTRY HAS
DANGEROUS TIMES THIS COUNTRY HAS SEEN IN, WELL, I’LL SAY IT,
SEEN IN, WELL, I’LL SAY IT, SINCE 9/11.
SINCE 9/11. WE DON’T KNOW WHERE THIS HEADS,
WE DON’T KNOW WHERE THIS HEADS, BUT WE KNOW IT GETS MUCH, MUCH
BUT WE KNOW IT GETS MUCH, MUCH WORSE WITH THIS PRESIDENT.
WORSE WITH THIS PRESIDENT. >> YOU MENTIONED 9/11, JOE.
>> YOU MENTIONED 9/11, JOE. NEARLY 3,000 PEOPLE LOST THEIR
NEARLY 3,000 PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES.
LIVES. WE’RE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF A
WE’RE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF A CRISIS WHERE, I BELIEVE, ORDERS
CRISIS WHERE, I BELIEVE, ORDERS OF MORE MAGNITUDE OF AMERICANS
OF MORE MAGNITUDE OF AMERICANS ARE IN DANGER.
ARE IN DANGER. PUT THAT ON THE TABLE.
PUT THAT ON THE TABLE. WE’RE AT A POINT WHERE THE
WE’RE AT A POINT WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER.
NUMBERS ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER. THE WORD YOU’RE GOING TO HEAR BY
THE WORD YOU’RE GOING TO HEAR BY THE HOUR NOW IS ACCELERATION.
THE HOUR NOW IS ACCELERATION. WE ARE IN THE ACCELERATION
WE ARE IN THE ACCELERATION PHASE.
PHASE. WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION THAT’S
WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION THAT’S ENGAGING IN TRULY UNINFORMED,
ENGAGING IN TRULY UNINFORMED, SANGUINE, HAPPY TALK.
SANGUINE, HAPPY TALK. WE OUGHT TO BE TALKING SERIOUSLY
WE OUGHT TO BE TALKING SERIOUSLY ABOUT THINGS LIKE PAID SICK
ABOUT THINGS LIKE PAID SICK LEAVE.
LEAVE. LESS THAN NINE STATES IN THIS
LESS THAN NINE STATES IN THIS COUNTRY PROVIDE FOR PAID SICK
COUNTRY PROVIDE FOR PAID SICK LEAVE.
LEAVE. WE CAN’T HAVE A SITUATION WHERE
WE CAN’T HAVE A SITUATION WHERE SICK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WORK.
SICK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WORK. WE NEED A SITUATION WHERE WE
WE NEED A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE THESE TESTS THAT ARE
HAVE THESE TESTS THAT ARE ACCURATE AND AVAILABLE.
ACCURATE AND AVAILABLE. WE NEED TO START DISCOURAGING
WE NEED TO START DISCOURAGING LARGE GATHERINGS OF AMERICAN
LARGE GATHERINGS OF AMERICAN PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. THE KINDS OF THINGS WE’RE SEEING
THE KINDS OF THINGS WE’RE SEEING AROUND THE WORLD, THIS SHOULD BE
AROUND THE WORLD, THIS SHOULD BE DEBATED NOW.
DEBATED NOW. INSTEAD OF DENYING THE REALITY,
INSTEAD OF DENYING THE REALITY, YOU OUGHT TO BE HAVING SERIOUS
YOU OUGHT TO BE HAVING SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SPORTING
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SPORTING EVENTS, SCHOOLS STAYING OPEN.
EVENTS, SCHOOLS STAYING OPEN. WE NEED SOME LEADERSHIP.
WE NEED SOME LEADERSHIP. THAT’S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
THAT’S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. >> RICHARD, THEY’RE STILL
>> RICHARD, THEY’RE STILL DEBATING WHETHER TO HAVE
DEBATING WHETHER TO HAVE COACHELLA OR NOT.
COACHELLA OR NOT. I’M WONDERING WHAT PLANET THESE
I’M WONDERING WHAT PLANET THESE ORGANIZERS ARE ON.
ORGANIZERS ARE ON. SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST BIT THE
SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST BIT THE BULLET AND ENDED UP LOSING $300
BULLET AND ENDED UP LOSING $300 MILLION TO $400 MILLION.
MILLION TO $400 MILLION. IT IS GOING TO BE DEVASTATING,
IT IS GOING TO BE DEVASTATING, BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FAR MORE
BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FAR MORE DEVASTATING IF HALF OF AUSTIN
DEVASTATING IF HALF OF AUSTIN HAD THE CORONAVIRUS.
HAD THE CORONAVIRUS. THEY’RE STILL DEBATING WHETHER
THEY’RE STILL DEBATING WHETHER TO HAVE COACHELLA.
TO HAVE COACHELLA. >> WHAT ABOUT COLLEGE
>> WHAT ABOUT COLLEGE GRADUATIONS?
GRADUATIONS? >> YOU LOOK AT ALL THE COLLEGES
>> YOU LOOK AT ALL THE COLLEGES THAT ARE STARTING TO SHUT DOWN.
THAT ARE STARTING TO SHUT DOWN. >> PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE
>> PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD COMING.
WORLD COMING. >> AGAIN, THEY’RE DOING IT BEING
>> AGAIN, THEY’RE DOING IT BEING RESPONSIBLE.
RESPONSIBLE. TALK ABOUT WHAT ITALY HAD TO DO.
TALK ABOUT WHAT ITALY HAD TO DO. THEY’VE SHUT DOWN A THIRD OF THE
THEY’VE SHUT DOWN A THIRD OF THE COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. AGAIN, WE’RE AT A STAGE NOW
AGAIN, WE’RE AT A STAGE NOW WHERE CONTAINMENT, TRYING TO
WHERE CONTAINMENT, TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM COMING IN WITH
KEEP PEOPLE FROM COMING IN WITH THE VIRUS, WE’RE PAST THAT
THE VIRUS, WE’RE PAST THAT POINT.
POINT. NOW WHAT WE HAVE IS TRANSMISSION
NOW WHAT WE HAVE IS TRANSMISSION WITHIN SOCIETY.
WITHIN SOCIETY. HOW DO YOU MAKE A SOCIETY WHERE
HOW DO YOU MAKE A SOCIETY WHERE THE VIRUS HAS ALREADY ENTERED
THE VIRUS HAS ALREADY ENTERED AND SPREAD, HOW DO YOU MAKE IT
AND SPREAD, HOW DO YOU MAKE IT LESS VULNERABLE?
LESS VULNERABLE? TESTING IS ESSENTIAL.
TESTING IS ESSENTIAL. KEEPING SICK PEOPLE AT HOME,
KEEPING SICK PEOPLE AT HOME, ESSENTIAL.
ESSENTIAL. KEEPING LARGE GROUPS FROM
KEEPING LARGE GROUPS FROM GATHERING.
GATHERING. IF YOU HAVE A THOUSAND PEOPLE IN
IF YOU HAVE A THOUSAND PEOPLE IN A ROOM, THE ODDS THAT SEVERAL OF
A ROOM, THE ODDS THAT SEVERAL OF THEM DO NOT HAVE THE VIRUS IS
THEM DO NOT HAVE THE VIRUS IS INCREASINGLY NIL.
INCREASINGLY NIL. THAT’S WHAT WE’RE SEEING EVERY
THAT’S WHAT WE’RE SEEING EVERY TIME WE HAVE A CONVENTION NOW.
TIME WE HAVE A CONVENTION NOW. CPAC, PEOPLE ARE BEING EXPOSED.
CPAC, PEOPLE ARE BEING EXPOSED. WE HAVE TO PREVENT THESE
WE HAVE TO PREVENT THESE GATHERINGS.
GATHERINGS. ITALY IS DOING IT ON A DRAMATIC
ITALY IS DOING IT ON A DRAMATIC SCALE.
SCALE. NORTHERN ITALY, YOU HAD A
NORTHERN ITALY, YOU HAD A CRITICAL MASS OF PEOPLE WHO
CRITICAL MASS OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD COME IN PROBABLY FROM
WOULD COME IN PROBABLY FROM CHINA AND EXPOSE THE POPULATION.
CHINA AND EXPOSE THE POPULATION. THEY’RE QUARANTINING, WHAT, 20
THEY’RE QUARANTINING, WHAT, 20 MILLION PEOPLE.
MILLION PEOPLE. IF WASN’T TOE WANT TO AVOID THOS
IF WASN’T TOE WANT TO AVOID THOS SIDUATIONS S
SIDUATIONS S SITUATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY IN A
SITUATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY IN A MONTH, WE HAVE TO TAKE DRAMATIC
MONTH, WE HAVE TO TAKE DRAMATIC STEPS.
STEPS. WHAT WE’RE SEEING IS
WHAT WE’RE SEEING IS OSTRICH-LIKE BEHAVIOR OUT OF THE
OSTRICH-LIKE BEHAVIOR OUT OF THE PRESIDENT AND THOSE AROUND HIM.
PRESIDENT AND THOSE AROUND HIM. >> DR. FAUCI DID SAY WHAT’S
>> DR. FAUCI DID SAY WHAT’S HAPPENING IN ITALY, SOME FORM OF
HAPPENING IN ITALY, SOME FORM OF THAT, COULD HAPPEN HERE IN THE
THAT, COULD HAPPEN HERE IN THE U.S.
U.S. IF YOU SPEAK TO THE EXPERTS, YOU
IF YOU SPEAK TO THE EXPERTS, YOU GET EXPERT INFORMATION.
GET EXPERT INFORMATION. IN TERMS OF THIS PRESIDENCY, YOU
IN TERMS OF THIS PRESIDENCY, YOU KNOW, THE PERFECT CALL TO THE
KNOW, THE PERFECT CALL TO THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE, THAT
PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE, THAT DAMAGED OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.
DAMAGED OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. SAYING TO GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS
SAYING TO GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS HE’D TAKE DIRT ON A POLITICAL
HE’D TAKE DIRT ON A POLITICAL RIVAL, IT DAMAGED OUR POLITICAL
RIVAL, IT DAMAGED OUR POLITICAL SECURITY AND MADE US LESS SAFE.
SECURITY AND MADE US LESS SAFE. HIS WEIRD RELATIONSHIP WITH
HIS WEIRD RELATIONSHIP WITH RUSSIA DAMAGES OUR NATIONAL
RUSSIA DAMAGES OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND MAKES US LESS SAFE.
SECURITY AND MAKES US LESS SAFE. BUT AMERICANS, AND I SPEAK ABOUT
BUT AMERICANS, AND I SPEAK ABOUT TRUMP SUPPORTERS, THEY CAN’T SEE
TRUMP SUPPORTERS, THEY CAN’T SEE THAT.
THAT. IT’S NOT SOMETHING THAT’S
IT’S NOT SOMETHING THAT’S TANGIBLE TO THEM.
TANGIBLE TO THEM. THIS WILL BE.
THIS WILL BE. THIS WILL BE DIFFERENT.
THIS WILL BE DIFFERENT. THIS IS WHERE THIS BEHAVIOR ENDS
THIS IS WHERE THIS BEHAVIOR ENDS FOR THIS PRESIDENT.
FOR THIS PRESIDENT. LET’S NOT HOPE THAT IT TAKES THE
LET’S NOT HOPE THAT IT TAKES THE LIVES OF MORE AND MORE
LIVES OF MORE AND MORE AMERICANS.
AMERICANS. >> WHAT WE HOPE IS, WHAT WE SAID
>> WHAT WE HOPE IS, WHAT WE SAID EARLIER, IS THAT THIS PRESIDENT
EARLIER, IS THAT THIS PRESIDENT SUCCEEDS IN GETTING OUTCRISIS, W
SUCCEEDS IN GETTING OUTCRISIS, W MORE BY THE DAY.
MORE BY THE DAY. THINGS ARE GETTING MORE
THINGS ARE GETTING MORE DANGEROUS.
DANGEROUS. I MUST SAY, IF YOU LOOK AT
I MUST SAY, IF YOU LOOK AT DEMOGRAPHICS, IT ACTUALLY GETS
DEMOGRAPHICS, IT ACTUALLY GETS MORE DANGEROUS FOR ALL
MORE DANGEROUS FOR ALL AMERICANS.
AMERICANS. BUT FOR THOSE AMERICANS IN THEIR
BUT FOR THOSE AMERICANS IN THEIR 60s AND OLDER, IT IS MORE
60s AND OLDER, IT IS MORE DANGEROUS.
DANGEROUS. A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE TRUMP
A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE TRUMP SUPPORTERS.
SUPPORTERS. DONALD, YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU
DONALD, YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY IN THE WHITE HOUSE,
WANT TO SAY IN THE WHITE HOUSE, BUT YOUR SUPPORTERS THAT ARE 60
BUT YOUR SUPPORTERS THAT ARE 60 AND OLDER ARE GOING TO GO TO
AND OLDER ARE GOING TO GO TO THEIR DOCTORS AND DOCTORS WILL
THEIR DOCTORS AND DOCTORS WILL SAY YOU’RE LIE.
SAY YOU’RE LIE. THEY’LL BELIEVE THEIR DOCTORS
THEY’LL BELIEVE THEIR DOCTORS OVER YOU.
OVER YOU. YOU NEED TO START TELLING THE
YOU NEED TO START TELLING THE TRUTH EVERY DAY.
TRUTH EVERY DAY. YOU NEED TO STOP TWEETING OUT
YOU NEED TO STOP TWEETING OUT CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
CONSPIRACY THEORIES. YOU NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT
YOU NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR RATINGS.
YOUR RATINGS. YOU NEED TO START WORRYING ABOUT
YOU NEED TO START WORRYING ABOUT PROTECTING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY
PROTECTING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE 60 AND OLDER.
PEOPLE WHO ARE 60 AND OLDER. BE THEY REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS
BE THEY REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS OR IF THEY ARE NOT EVEN
OR IF THEY ARE NOT EVEN POLITICAL.
POLITICAL. YOUR LIES, YOUR HOPES THAT
YOUR LIES, YOUR HOPES THAT CRUISE SHIPS CAN CRUISE AROUND
CRUISE SHIPS CAN CRUISE AROUND FOREVER AND GO IN CIRCLES AND
FOREVER AND GO IN CIRCLES AND NOT REACH SHORE, WELL, FIRST OF
NOT REACH SHORE, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT’S CRUEL TO THE AMERICANS
ALL, IT’S CRUEL TO THE AMERICANS TRAPPED OBJECTN THE CRUISE SHIP,
TRAPPED OBJECTN THE CRUISE SHIP, SECONDLY, IT DOESN’T CHANGE THE
SECONDLY, IT DOESN’T CHANGE THE REALITY THAT’S HAPPENING RIGHT
REALITY THAT’S HAPPENING RIGHT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES OF
HERE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AMERICA. ONE FINAL THING, MIKA, AS WE
ONE FINAL THING, MIKA, AS WE TALK ABOUT BEING MORE CAREFUL,
TALK ABOUT BEING MORE CAREFUL, ESPECIALLY -- LISTEN, DR. FAUCI,
ESPECIALLY -- LISTEN, DR. FAUCI, AND YOUR DOCTOR, GO TO YOUR
AND YOUR DOCTOR, GO TO YOUR DOCTOR, THEY’LL TELL YOU, IF
DOCTOR, THEY’LL TELL YOU, IF YOU’RE 60 YEARS OR OLDER, STAY
YOU’RE 60 YEARS OR OLDER, STAY OFF PLANES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
OFF PLANES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. >> DO I DON’T TELLNOT GO ON A CR
>> DO I DON’T TELLNOT GO ON A CR ANYWHERE WITH LOTS OF PEOPLE.
ANYWHERE WITH LOTS OF PEOPLE. >> STAY OUT OF CROWDS.
>> STAY OUT OF CROWDS. BE CAREFUL.
BE CAREFUL. DON’T GO IN CLOSE SPACES, LIKE
DON’T GO IN CLOSE SPACES, LIKE RICHARD SAYS, WHERE THERE ARE
RICHARD SAYS, WHERE THERE ARE 1,000 OR MORE PEOPLE IN THE
1,000 OR MORE PEOPLE IN THE CROWDS.
CROWDS. YOU KNOW WHAT, MIKA?
YOU KNOW WHAT, MIKA? WHAT THAT BRINGS US TO IS THE
WHAT THAT BRINGS US TO IS THE FACT THAT THE THREE MEN WHO ARE
FACT THAT THE THREE MEN WHO ARE MOST LIKELY TO BE THE NEXT
MOST LIKELY TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ARE ALL IN THEIR 70s.
ARE ALL IN THEIR 70s. AT LEAST TWO OF THEM ARE NOT IN
AT LEAST TWO OF THEM ARE NOT IN PEAK HEALTH.
PEAK HEALTH. THEY HAVE UNDERLYING CONDITIONS.
THEY HAVE UNDERLYING CONDITIONS. THE PRESIDENT, OF COURSE, IS
THE PRESIDENT, OF COURSE, IS OBESE.
OBESE. HE’S NOT IN GOOD SHAPE.
HE’S NOT IN GOOD SHAPE. YOU LOOK AT HIM, DESPITE WHAT --
YOU LOOK AT HIM, DESPITE WHAT -- >> YOU CAN SEE BY THE MORBID
>> YOU CAN SEE BY THE MORBID OBESITY.
OBESITY. THAT IS CLEAR.
THAT IS CLEAR. >> YOU CAN SEE THE OBESITY.
>> YOU CAN SEE THE OBESITY. YOU CAN SEE BY HIS DIET THAT HE
YOU CAN SEE BY HIS DIET THAT HE IS NOT HEALTHY.
IS NOT HEALTHY. HE IS NOT IN GOOD SHAPE.
HE IS NOT IN GOOD SHAPE. BERNIE SANDERS HAD A HEART
BERNIE SANDERS HAD A HEART ATTACK.
ATTACK. HE HAS AN UNDERLYING CONDITION.
HE HAS AN UNDERLYING CONDITION. WE DON’T KNOW ABOUT JOE BIDEN’S
WE DON’T KNOW ABOUT JOE BIDEN’S CARDIAC HEALTH.
CARDIAC HEALTH. WE DON’T KNOW.
WE DON’T KNOW. WE KNOW ONE THING, THEY’RE ALL
WE KNOW ONE THING, THEY’RE ALL IN THEIR 70s.
IN THEIR 70s. NONE OF THEM LOOK TO BE IN
NONE OF THEM LOOK TO BE IN TIP-TOP SHAPE.
TIP-TOP SHAPE. AND THEY’RE ALL, OF ALL THE
AND THEY’RE ALL, OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKELY TO HAVE A
PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKELY TO HAVE A SEVERE REACTION TO COMING IN
SEVERE REACTION TO COMING IN CONTACT WITH A CORONAVIRUS,
CONTACT WITH A CORONAVIRUS, THEY’RE ALL RIGHT IN THE CENTER
THEY’RE ALL RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THAT BULL’S EYE.
OF THAT BULL’S EYE. SO THE QUESTION IS THIS, MIKA, I
SO THE QUESTION IS THIS, MIKA, I MEAN, DO THEY CONTINUE
MEAN, DO THEY CONTINUE CAMPAIGNING?
CAMPAIGNING? DO THEY CONTINUE GOING AROUND
DO THEY CONTINUE GOING AROUND SHAKING HANDS?
SHAKING HANDS? DO THEY IGNORE THE ADVICE OF DR.
DO THEY IGNORE THE ADVICE OF DR. FAUCI?
FAUCI? OR DO THEY START DOING WHAT TED
OR DO THEY START DOING WHAT TED CRUZ AND OTHERS ARE DOING AND
CRUZ AND OTHERS ARE DOING AND BACK OFF AND ACTUALLY START
BACK OFF AND ACTUALLY START QUARANTINING THEMSELVES?
QUARANTINING THEMSELVES? THEIR DOCTORS ARE GOING TO HAVE
THEIR DOCTORS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN THE
TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
NEXT FEW DAYS. >>> STILL AHEAD, WE’LL READ FROM
>>> STILL AHEAD, WE’LL READ FROM THE MUST-READ OPINION PAGES,
THE MUST-READ OPINION PAGES, INCLUDING ONE THAT SAYS THE
INCLUDING ONE THAT SAYS THE CORONAVIRUS IS COMING FOR
CORONAVIRUS IS COMING FOR TRUMP’S PRESIDENCY.
TRUMP’S PRESIDENCY. >>> PLUS, WE SENT "MORNING
>>> PLUS, WE SENT "MORNING JOE’S" CHIEF MEDICAL
JOE’S" CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT TO WASHINGTON OVER
CORRESPONDENT TO WASHINGTON OVER THE WEEKEND FOR A FIRSTHAND LOOK
THE WEEKEND FOR A FIRSTHAND LOOK AT THE GOVERNMENT’S RESPONSE TO
AT THE GOVERNMENT’S RESPONSE TO THE OUTBREAK.
THE OUTBREAK. WE’LL SHOW YOU THAT REPORT NEXT.
WE’LL SHOW YOU THAT REPORT NEXT. >>> ALSO AHEAD, FORMER
>>> ALSO AHEAD, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE PETE
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE PETE BUTTIGIEG WITH ONE OF HIS FIRST

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