As things stand, you heard the breaking news on Friday night around Manchester City are receiving a two year ban from European football for breaching financial fair play regulations.

As we've heard already, they will fight the charges robustly and they plan to appeal.

First of all, to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

There are so many angles to this story, but let's start with the football side of things.

We've heard pet being quoted already saying Whatever happens, he plans to stay.

But what if you're one of those players in that dressing room on that van is upheld.

Roy that two year ban.

There are only two players in that Manchester City squad to have one the European Cup and that's the two backup goalkeepers.

Would you not be tempted in their position to seek a move elsewhere?

I think it's difficult.

I think it's ah big blow to him.

Obviously, I think from the players point of view, if I was in that dressing room, digestive, it I'm getting is that they're probably appeal and I think one year you get your head round at the two years.

A big blow.

The only other site.

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I think maybe this year might make him more determined to try and win it.

Would that be your reaction in there?

Yeah, you're trying.

You have to try.

Look at the positives, if obviously to repeal in it.

But if they don't something wrong, you've got to take your medicine.

But if the appeal witness, the one year that's not too about two years is a big blow, But what about Man City?

We have to remind herself.

Immensity have never been in a final.

There's no guarantee we're gonna win over the next 1 to 2 years.

But it's obviously very damaging for the club, for in terms of their brand, the financial side of eternal attracting the best players but assaulting city still of the challenges out there in terms of trying to win the league title.

And I think when you've got a card rule at your club, you know you you're still gonna attract foreign particle players.

How do you see it, Jamie, Because again, or the information we have it.

It is a two year ban.

If it's upheld, some of these players are coming into the best period in their career.

This might be the best chance may be the only chance they have of challenging for the Genoa.

Then playing should be even thinking about leaving on City.

Because the way I look what Manchester City of being accused of being guilty off at this moment of being banged ful is basically so they can spend more in the transfer market or spend on plate moron playerswages because at this moment not bring in enough money, um, from sponsors or revenue.

Those players a man sitting in a 303 150 grand a week.

I'm on CC.

Actually, it's my fault.

You know?

What I'm saying is they're getting paid those wages that probably city answer polls to be paying.

That's why they're being bound on those places, Really, said.

It's not exactly being there.

A few years been very successfully being brilliant from one city.

Given what a European court think of what it seems about sanctions.

You think events us what be funded there when they went down, only stayed there, was loyal to the club.

That's what these players should be doing really, really mentioned about the fact that will make them more fired up this season to go for it.

I can't believe that in the competition now.

I'm not because I'm saying this from a Liverpool points.

I want City on the competition.

What would happen if City win this competition this season?

The favorites for one of the best teams in Europe make a mockery of the competition.

If they you wait for will be desperate for on cities, get beat by Roma did absolutely desperate.

Can you imagine people from your way for him to give the Corp in Istanbul two months city play?

They're lifting it.

The first question.

Pack what we already get us after the game.

Is this a fake win?

Is it like Barcelona?

You get asked questions about the merits of the club should be in the competition so that in a competition now, if they win it, you'll be almost be tainted.

Will be the biggest thing.

City of evidence or any crude can do is what would've been anyway, wouldn't it?

It would have been, anyway, what would be the biggest thing that ever done?

What it's the biggest thing any team condition.

Clinton is the biggest thing you can win.

But the things I've been getting through a pep quality, all in a press conference five minutes later on those players will be able should they be in the competition, I think for you a fair they should about that took months.

City of the competition.

Right now, we should have left the station to its appeal, isn't it?

Which is why they're still in there.

But this appears gonna go to CASS.

If Man City lose that appeal, then they go to the Swiss court will just be ongoing and ongoing.

And potentially European Commission after that waits for some time.

Of course.

Let's bring in Gary Neville, who's commentating for us Stamford Bridge.

Receiving an interesting Gary to get your perspective on this as a club owner, Of course, what you make of it all is interested in listening to Judge Carrie.

Get that going through the course, Um, I to be fair with a long held view on F F P.

People say it's because I'm the owner of Soul Food City, and essentially, we would still be in the even stick north if we weren't able to invest Maur.

Even though it's obviously no applied at that level.

But the idea that Manager city not able to invest the money of the ownership I disagree with, I've always felt F f p is the wrong way to apply the financial rules.

My whole time called Berry went Bush last year, which obviously club very close to my heart.

And I think F f p was brought in to stop clubs essentially going bust.

However, there are different ways of achieving that in all of the forms of business, they're back guarantees there are bonds.

Their owners pledges you.

Ultimately, if owners sign up to contracts or allow contract signing their ownership than they should have the money in place to be able to fulfill those contracts.

I think Manager sits.

His owners have got that.

I think if you look at what Chelsea managed to city less, the Blackburn going back 20 odd years under Jack Walker, we would never see the emergence of these clubs if you like below.

What would be the months United Little pills arsenals who have got all the sort of history, the revenue to tradition, to be able to compete under f f p what we're saying is the F F P stifles investment into football clubs that can stimulate communities like Blackburn.

Like other clubs, I obviously haven't order itself it, you know, we would never be able to do what we're doing.

If we didn't, we weren't allowed to invest into our club on.

We're saying that essentially, we should create a status calling football almost like a franchise.

And I think the top clubs in Europe probably like months united bye in Munich, Barcelona, Real Madrid.

They would take football towards a franchise type model.

If we didn't have the emergence of clubs, you could invest in owners who could invest in other clubs.

There are negatives with that.

There have been some horror stories of where owners essentially have invested into clubs and then did not follow through with their commitments.

That's got to be stopped.

But there are other ways of stopping that without applying f f p.

So I have a real problem with F F P.

To start with, I have done for to be fair for seven or eight years, I don't think the right way to apply it.

I think city will beat you a fur.

I think you ate for.

I've got no faith in them whatsoever.

I think essentially they're hopeless.

Organization will just apply.

To be fair, What would be erratic disciplinary sanctions for four different things on?

I think City will beat them in the courts.

I think it'll get stuck in the court for some time, but I think it's your win in the end.

Well, I'm I'm with them in terms of f F p, the financial fear Play.

What fear about a club like Manchester City, who for?

For besides, a few years in the sixties and seventies of always being in Manchester United shadow they go except that for the rest of their lives, how was it ever change?

It wouldn't change unless, and only ship like that came in what not to do it gradually, gradually, can't sustainable way, way for have talked about.

Originally they talked about and just hear me out on this.

They talked about introducing F F P two to restrict some of the worst excesses of the game.

Michelle Platini talked about financial doping at the time and trying to encourage responsible spending.

I can see you're shaking your head on that, Gary what we're talking about.

Going Gary to suggest that to suggest that managed to city could ever catch months united through sustainable organic growth is just absolutely nonsense.

Months united the soul, fire in front with revenue with scale, with fun base with everything compared to city.

The only way City could ever get to a level playing field with Manchester United was through him.

Owner investment.

Now do I like it from a point of view that I won't manage to succeed Knox, I would rather months united be successful.

But the idea of being under competitive in football is ridiculous.

The idea that the same two or three clubs were able to win every single year through financial might is anticompetitive.

It goes against everything that we believe in in this country.

So from my point of view, clips have to be able to invest so old it have to be able to invest into football clubs.

But the minute that they come in, the obligations that they signed up to financially should have to be covered by bond parent company Guaranty Bank.

Currency Berry situation is absolutely the worst case of where fit and proper onus tests There's two different things here they should be.

She fits in proper owners tests, and then they should be coverage of obligation there.

Two things that should absolutely happen in every football club.

F F P is a nonsense.

As far as I'm concerned, it's those two things I've mentioned before.

It should be put in place.

You agree, Roy?

With what?

Gary, The only thing that worries me amongst all of this is surely the clubs have all signed up for this.

Obviously agreed.

I think that signed up for it.

So if they sign up for it, you're not gonna play by the rules.

What?

It's fair or not.

They've obviously come together.

I'm sure all the bigger clubs come to get.

I'm sure they're They're calling the shots that they signed up for it.

Then they gotta go with I really negative.

Organic?

I don't have any time for financial fair play.

It's not fair.

Tunneled city forever should be, except being a man.

United shadow.

I've got in my own city now where Liverpool just won the European called ever have got an owner in machinery.

Goldman off in the background, probably desperate to invest as an evident final football club, if you could, except for the next 100 geez, even longer.

But you just sat there and just watching Liverpool wind.

Things will always be better than you.

It gives you that hope.

But what really said is right there.

God, he's mentioned ff pig and I don't agree with it.

But you wait for the nonsense Mind City knew the rules of the very start on.

They've tried to get around them allegedly, and if they get found guilty of the crime by us right now, or the gold's the cash, of course he should be punishing the Champions League.