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  • THANK YOU SO MUCH, TREY, WE APPRECIATE IT.

  • APPRECIATE IT. SO FOR MORE INSIGHT ON THE

  • SO FOR MORE INSIGHT ON THE ATTACK, A NATIONAL SECURITY AND

  • ATTACK, A NATIONAL SECURITY AND FOREIGN POLICY VICE PRESIDENT AT

  • FOREIGN POLICY VICE PRESIDENT AT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION,

  • THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION, LIEUTENANT COLONEL JAMES

  • LIEUTENANT COLONEL JAMES CARAFANO, IT’S GREAT TO SEE YOU

  • CARAFANO, IT’S GREAT TO SEE YOU IN PERSON.

  • IN PERSON. IN THE MORNING.

  • IN THE MORNING. WE TALK A LOT OVER SATELLITE.

  • WE TALK A LOT OVER SATELLITE. IN REFERENCE TO THE LATEST

  • IN REFERENCE TO THE LATEST ATTACK, LET’S BEGIN THERE.

  • ATTACK, LET’S BEGIN THERE. WE HAVE TWO MORE U.S. SERVICE

  • WE HAVE TWO MORE U.S. SERVICE MEMBERS KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN.

  • MEMBERS KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN. WEVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT GETTING

  • WEVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT GETTING THEM OUT.

  • THEM OUT. THIS IS BEING DESCRIBED AS AN

  • THIS IS BEING DESCRIBED AS AN INSIDER ATTACK AT THIS POINT.

  • INSIDER ATTACK AT THIS POINT. WE KNOW THAT IT INVOLVED TWO

  • WE KNOW THAT IT INVOLVED TWO U.S. ARMY MEMBERS FROM THE

  • U.S. ARMY MEMBERS FROM THE SEVENTH SPECIAL FORCES GROUP

  • SEVENTH SPECIAL FORCES GROUP ALSO KNOWN AS THE GREEN BERETS.

  • ALSO KNOWN AS THE GREEN BERETS. >> HERE’S WHAT’S INTERESTING

  • >> HERE’S WHAT’S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT, THIS IS QUITE

  • ABOUT THAT, THIS IS QUITE COMMON.

  • COMMON. THEY CALL IT BLUE ON BLUE,

  • THEY CALL IT BLUE ON BLUE, FRIENDLY FORCES, AFGHAN AND

  • FRIENDLY FORCES, AFGHAN AND AMERICAN FORCES, ALLIED FORCES

  • AMERICAN FORCES, ALLIED FORCES WIND UP SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER

  • WIND UP SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER WHETHER IT WAS ENGINEERED MOST

  • WHETHER IT WAS ENGINEERED MOST WILY BY THE TALIBAN.

  • WILY BY THE TALIBAN. WE ALL GOT PUSH BETTER AT

  • WE ALL GOT PUSH BETTER AT DEALING WITH THIS, ADDING

  • DEALING WITH THIS, ADDING PROCEDURES TO LIMIT THIS KIND OF

  • PROCEDURES TO LIMIT THIS KIND OF STUFF.

  • STUFF. TWO, THE AFGHAN MILITARY

  • TWO, THE AFGHAN MILITARY ACTUALLY GOT MUCH, MUCH MORE

  • ACTUALLY GOT MUCH, MUCH MORE PROFESSIONAL.

  • PROFESSIONAL. WE SEE U.S. UNIFORMS, PEOPLE

  • WE SEE U.S. UNIFORMS, PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND.

  • RUNNING AROUND. AND THE THIRD ONE IS AMERICANS

  • AND THE THIRD ONE IS AMERICANS ARE DOING LESS COMBAT.

  • ARE DOING LESS COMBAT. WERE IN AN ADVISE AND SUPPORT

  • WERE IN AN ADVISE AND SUPPORT ROLE.

  • ROLE. WERE NOT FIGHT AS MUCH AS WE

  • WERE NOT FIGHT AS MUCH AS WE USED TO, AND OUR NUMBERS ARE

  • USED TO, AND OUR NUMBERS ARE MUCH, MUCH SMALLER.

  • MUCH, MUCH SMALLER. THIS IS ACTUALLY KIND OF AN

  • THIS IS ACTUALLY KIND OF AN ANOMALY AS OPPOSED TO BUSINESS

  • ANOMALY AS OPPOSED TO BUSINESS AS USUAL IN AFGHANISTAN.

  • AS USUAL IN AFGHANISTAN. HEATHER: AN ANOMALY, BUT AT THE

  • HEATHER: AN ANOMALY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT IS STILL HAPPENING.

  • SAME TIME IT IS STILL HAPPENING. WE HAVE TWO SERVICE MEMBERS DEAD

  • WE HAVE TWO SERVICE MEMBERS DEAD AS A RESULT OF IT X. APPARENTLY

  • AS A RESULT OF IT X. APPARENTLY FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU

  • FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU CAN EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE BIT

  • CAN EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, THE U.S. MILITARY IS NOT

  • MORE, THE U.S. MILITARY IS NOT OFFICIALLY CALLING IT AN INSIDER

  • OFFICIALLY CALLING IT AN INSIDER ATTACK BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE

  • ATTACK BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE SUSPECT DID HAVE ON AN AFGHAN

  • SUSPECT DID HAVE ON AN AFGHAN UNIFORM, HE WAS NOT INVOLVED IN

  • UNIFORM, HE WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS DIRECT MISSION THAT WAS

  • THIS DIRECT MISSION THAT WAS TAKING PLACE.

  • TAKING PLACE. >> AND THAT’S, AGAIN, SOMETHING

  • >> AND THAT’S, AGAIN, SOMETHING USED TO BE FAIRLY PREVALENT, GET

  • USED TO BE FAIRLY PREVALENT, GET AN AFGHAN UNIFORM, SHOW UP AND

  • AN AFGHAN UNIFORM, SHOW UP AND PEOPLE THINK YOURE AN AFGHAN,

  • PEOPLE THINK YOURE AN AFGHAN, BUT YOURE REALLY A TALIBAN

  • BUT YOURE REALLY A TALIBAN FIGHTER.

  • FIGHTER. THE OTHER SCENARIO WAS YOU WOULD

  • THE OTHER SCENARIO WAS YOU WOULD GET A TALIBAN FIGHTER AND GET

  • GET A TALIBAN FIGHTER AND GET THEM INTO THE MILITARY AND HAVE

  • THEM INTO THE MILITARY AND HAVE THEM ATTACK, OR YOU WOULD BRIBE

  • THEM ATTACK, OR YOU WOULD BRIBE OR SOMEHOW GET A TALIBAN TO DO

  • OR SOMEHOW GET A TALIBAN TO DO THIS.

  • THIS. SO WE KNOW ABOUT THESE THINGS,

  • SO WE KNOW ABOUT THESE THINGS, SO WE DO VETTING, COORDINATION.

  • SO WE DO VETTING, COORDINATION. THEYRE MUCH, MUCH LESS

  • THEYRE MUCH, MUCH LESS PREVALENT.

  • PREVALENT. HEATHER: AND WE ALSO KNOW IN

  • HEATHER: AND WE ALSO KNOW IN THIS PARTICULAR PROVINCE, IN

  • THIS PARTICULAR PROVINCE, IN THIS AREA, THERE IS A SMALL HOME

  • THIS AREA, THERE IS A SMALL HOME OF ISIS FIGHTERS, ABOUT 500 OR

  • OF ISIS FIGHTERS, ABOUT 500 OR SO LOCATED THERE.

  • SO LOCATED THERE. WE STILL DON’T KNOW AT THIS

  • WE STILL DON’T KNOW AT THIS POINT WHO’S CLAIMING

  • POINT WHO’S CLAIMING RESPONSIBILITY.

  • RESPONSIBILITY. >> YEAH.

  • >> YEAH. AND THIS IS, LIKE, REALLY

  • AND THIS IS, LIKE, REALLY CRUCIAL.

  • CRUCIAL. WHY ARE THE TALIBAN AT THE

  • WHY ARE THE TALIBAN AT THE NEGOTIATING TABLE IN BECAUSE

  • NEGOTIATING TABLE IN BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CANNOT WIN.

  • THEY KNOW THEY CANNOT WIN. EYE CANNOT WIN -- ISIS CANNOT

  • EYE CANNOT WIN -- ISIS CANNOT WIN.

  • WIN. THEY ARE BUILDING A FUTURE FOR

  • THEY ARE BUILDING A FUTURE FOR THEIR COUNTRY, AND THE OTHER

  • THEIR COUNTRY, AND THE OTHER SIDE CAN’T WIN.

  • SIDE CAN’T WIN. THAT’S WHY OFTEN TIMES WE SEE

  • THAT’S WHY OFTEN TIMES WE SEE THESE INCIDENTS ENGINEERED

  • THESE INCIDENTS ENGINEERED BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET

  • BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET US TO TURN BACK AND LEAVE.

  • US TO TURN BACK AND LEAVE. THAT’S EXACTLY THE WRONG

  • THAT’S EXACTLY THE WRONG MESSAGE.

  • MESSAGE. HEATHER: WELL, THAT LEADS ME TO

  • HEATHER: WELL, THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION BECAUSE NATO

  • MY NEXT QUESTION BECAUSE NATO CONSIDERING LEAVING AFGHANISTAN.

  • CONSIDERING LEAVING AFGHANISTAN. AT THE SAME TIME WE KNOW THAT

  • AT THE SAME TIME WE KNOW THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS PROMISED TO

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS PROMISED TO REMOVE OUR TROOPS FROM THERE,

  • REMOVE OUR TROOPS FROM THERE, AND WE HEARD TREY YINGST TALKING

  • AND WE HEARD TREY YINGST TALKING ABOUT THE LATEST NUMBERS, ABOUT

  • ABOUT THE LATEST NUMBERS, ABOUT 13,000 OR SO STILL THERE.

  • 13,000 OR SO STILL THERE. BUT YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD

  • BUT YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD TODAY THERE.

  • TODAY THERE. >> WELL, I THINK, ONE, NATO WILL

  • >> WELL, I THINK, ONE, NATO WILL LEAVE WHEN -- WE WENT IN

  • LEAVE WHEN -- WE WENT IN TOGETHER, WELL COME OUT

  • TOGETHER, WELL COME OUT TOGETHER.

  • TOGETHER. THIS ADMINISTRATION’S ALREADY

  • THIS ADMINISTRATION’S ALREADY MADE A DECISION, IT’S GOING TO

  • MADE A DECISION, IT’S GOING TO GO TO ABOUT A LITTLE LESS THAN

  • GO TO ABOUT A LITTLE LESS THAN 9,000 TROOPS.

  • 9,000 TROOPS. THAT’S ABOUT THE RIGHT NUMBER TO

  • THAT’S ABOUT THE RIGHT NUMBER TO SUSTAIN ADVISE AND ASSIST

  • SUSTAIN ADVISE AND ASSIST MISSIONS AND DO

  • MISSIONS AND DO COUNTERTERRORISM.

  • COUNTERTERRORISM. THE NUMBER THAT WAS THERE WHEN

  • THE NUMBER THAT WAS THERE WHEN THE PRESIDENT WAS COMING INTO

  • THE PRESIDENT WAS COMING INTO OFFICE, AND THEYVE ALREADY

  • OFFICE, AND THEYVE ALREADY DECIDED THOSE TROOPS WILL STAY

  • DECIDED THOSE TROOPS WILL STAY THERE UNTIL THE TALIBAN HAVE

  • THERE UNTIL THE TALIBAN HAVE ACTUALLY PROVEN THAT THE LEVELS

  • ACTUALLY PROVEN THAT THE LEVELS OF VIOLENCE HAVE GONE DOWN AND

  • OF VIOLENCE HAVE GONE DOWN AND THAT THE COUNTRY IS STABLE.

  • THAT THE COUNTRY IS STABLE. SO IN A SENSE, THE DECISION’S

  • SO IN A SENSE, THE DECISION’S ALREADY COOKED, THE PRESIDENT’S

  • ALREADY COOKED, THE PRESIDENT’S ALREADY MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE.

  • ALREADY MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE. AND I, AS TRAGIC AS INCIDENTS

  • AND I, AS TRAGIC AS INCIDENTS LIKE THIS ARE, THEY WON’T --

  • LIKE THIS ARE, THEY WON’T -- HEATHER: OUR PRAYERS, OF COURSE,

  • HEATHER: OUR PRAYERS, OF COURSE, WITH ALL THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS.

  • WITH ALL THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS. >> ABSOLUTELY.

  • >> ABSOLUTELY. HEATHER: FINALLY, THERE ARE SOME

  • HEATHER: FINALLY, THERE ARE SOME SUCCESSES THAT WE NEED TO TALK

  • SUCCESSES THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF PRESIDENT

  • ABOUT IN TERMS OF PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS CAMPAIGN, THE

  • TRUMP AND HIS CAMPAIGN, THE LATEST BEING YET ANOTHER

  • LATEST BEING YET ANOTHER TERRORIST SUCCESSFULLY KILLED.

  • TERRORIST SUCCESSFULLY KILLED. >> YEAH.

  • >> YEAH. THESE ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

  • THESE ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK NOT CALLING IT A WAR ON

  • I THINK NOT CALLING IT A WAR ON TERRORISM ANYMORE MAKES PERFECT

  • TERRORISM ANYMORE MAKES PERFECT ACCEPT, BUT THEYRE OUT THERE

  • ACCEPT, BUT THEYRE OUT THERE TRYING TO RECONSTITUTE THAT

  • TRYING TO RECONSTITUTE THAT TRUCKER DO THE KINDS OF THINGS

  • TRUCKER DO THE KINDS OF THINGS LIKE THEY DID BEFORE, AND WHAT

  • LIKE THEY DID BEFORE, AND WHAT YOU WITH NEVER WANT THE

  • YOU WITH NEVER WANT THE LEADERSHIP TO HAVE A GOOD

  • LEADERSHIP TO HAVE A GOOD NIGHT’S REST OR A SAFE HAVEN.

  • NIGHT’S REST OR A SAFE HAVEN. AND THE FACT THAT WE CAN

  • AND THE FACT THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO GO AND HAVE THE

  • CONTINUE TO GO AND HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE WORLDWIDE TO FIND

  • INTELLIGENCE WORLDWIDE TO FIND LEADERS OF SIGNIFICANT GROUPS

  • LEADERS OF SIGNIFICANT GROUPS AND TAKE THEM OUT, THAT PUTS A

  • AND TAKE THEM OUT, THAT PUTS A LOT OF OPERATIONAL TRAIN ON THE

  • LOT OF OPERATIONAL TRAIN ON THE OTHER SIDE.

  • OTHER SIDE. AND IT REALLY KEEPS THEM FROM

  • AND IT REALLY KEEPS THEM FROM COMING BACK AND ORGANIZING THE

  • COMING BACK AND ORGANIZING THE MASSIVE KIND OF ATTACKS LIKE

  • MASSIVE KIND OF ATTACKS LIKE THEY DID ON 9/11.

  • THEY DID ON 9/11. HEATHER: AND LEADERS BEING THAT

  • HEATHER: AND LEADERS BEING THAT KEYWORD.

  • KEYWORD. AND ALSO IT IMPACTS THE MORALE.

  • AND ALSO IT IMPACTS THE MORALE. AND WE KNOW THAT SOCIAL MEDIA’S

  • AND WE KNOW THAT SOCIAL MEDIA’S SPREADING AND INCREASING MORALE

  • SPREADING AND INCREASING MORALE IS A LARGE WAY THEY --

  • IS A LARGE WAY THEY -- >> AND PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THAT’S

  • >> AND PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THAT’S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM,

  • NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND THEYRE RIGHT, IT’S NOT.

  • AND THEYRE RIGHT, IT’S NOT. BUT IT’S A KEY COMPONENT OF

  • BUT IT’S A KEY COMPONENT OF KEEPING THE THREAT UNDER

  • KEEPING THE THREAT UNDER CONTROL, AND WE HAVE TO KEEP

THANK YOU SO MUCH, TREY, WE APPRECIATE IT.

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