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  • Hello, Welcome to this Monday Post cast I'm Maddie Player joined in the studio by Nick.

  • What's we have pulled Winfield from Paddy Power on the line on Tom's Eagle has joined us.

  • That once again is like getting the band back together.

  • I feel like the originals, you know, delighted to have you all on board.

  • Anyway, we're gonna look back on the two days from the November meeting to not the three due to the Friday not going ahead due to the weather.

  • And, of course, plenty of good Irish action.

  • Two punches Town provided us with plenty of brilliant performances.

  • Lots of Cheltenham clues on display both this side on the other side, the Irish Sea.

  • Andi will also be looking at some of the good rating on later this week, later in the show as well.

  • So let's get started then, guys. 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:8.380 First off, we better start with the feature on Saturday, which was the bet Victor Gold Cup one by happy diva who was pretty unlucky last year when being brought down really consistent on admirable mare. 00:01:8.380 --> 00:01:8.710 What? 00:01:8.710 --> 00:01:11.190 See one of my favorites, as I'm sure you know.

  • Could you have seen her winning the race beforehand on?

  • Yeah, I could see it running very well in it because she's doing exactly the same last year when she was unlucky in the same race and she's very consistent.

  • She had a ground, and Kerry leaves a bit of a similar trainers to finish a wooden, isn't it?

  • You know, when the going gets tough in the goings on the soft side carried the horses seem to come to the fore.

  • So no, it wasn't surprised.

  • Tool.

  • I was just surprised by the SP.

  • I thought there might be a bit more bit more love for in the betting before, and she went off a very generous price.

  • I thought that said Slight House looked as I was coming with the winning challenge.

  • And you know, you often talk about winning rights being the best ones.

  • But the way Robbie Power smuggled Slate House into that race, despite him not jumping particularly well all the way around, I thought was an exceptional feat to even get him to challenge on Dhe. 00:01:58.310 --> 00:02:3.060 The ironic thing is that his best jump of the race probably came in the second last of the defense. 00:02:3.060 --> 00:02:4.190 He fell out because of me. 00:02:4.540 --> 00:02:5.700 He took off perfectly. 00:02:5.700 --> 00:02:11.730 He cleared it perfectly, just crumpled on landing, which was most unfortunate, whether he would have one or not.

  • I'm not completely convinced about that.

  • But he was certainly in there fighting for Robbie Power to even got in close bearing mind away.

  • Went around before then was admirable.

  • Wouldn't, you know, showed a jockey at the top of its game was just unfortunate.

  • Didn't work out for him on that time.

  • Precisely a certainly writing at the peak of his powers, but lots of good ammunition.

  • Robbie Power at some your opinion on Happy Diva and Slate House because he was the big sort of talking point for many when coming down to out with what?

  • See, I wasn't sure he was gonna win.

  • I think he probably would have won, but I wasn't sure about that.

  • Thes Children races, Maddie, and I don't know what you think about them, but they're so much dependent on you.

  • know, I tend to look at a race looking for a horse that might get better and might be better than their handicap mark. 00:02:55.860 --> 00:03:0.340 But quite a few of these Children races goto horses with experience and course. 00:03:0.340 --> 00:03:3.250 Former Really, really different from most Andy Caps. 00:03:3.510 --> 00:03:4.400 You got 20 runners. 00:03:4.400 --> 00:03:6.630 Bad ground, twisty turny track. 00:03:6.920 --> 00:03:12.880 It's all about rhythm, you know, and horses that that can handle the sort of the way these races go.

  • I think we see it year in year out that people like me trying to be a clever boy and try and find the sort of unexposed one with £10 in hand, which I did on Saturday with Palami Day picked on.

  • Never got in the race that can't get these horses can't get in the race.

  • And, you know, looking back, maybe I need to.

  • We need to start thinking about that as a big factor for the sort of Children handicapped, sort of, you know, just being ableto handle the way the races go because it was carnage again, wasn't it?

  • Everything was only six or seven finishes again, and there were fall is here hampered.

  • They're all over the place and also not happy.

  • Devers, We saw many, many times, has no problems with the hustle bustle races like this.

  • And maybe, you know, instead of looking at the weights and measures looking, saying she's highest ever marks she didn't couldn't win, said plenty of chances.

  • Not 11 We should be thinking Mawr in terms of what type of horse is going to perform. 00:03:59.160 --> 00:04:2.070 Because Braylon Doll was the same, he'd been third in a grand annual. 00:04:2.070 --> 00:04:3.090 You sort of you know what I mean? 00:04:3.090 --> 00:04:7.060 Yes, Rather than look like last time, you know what I mean, right? 00:04:7.060 --> 00:04:12.160 Rather than trying to find the one that might do it, we got the evidence there that these horses can do it.

  • So maybe and and they're bigger prices anyway, only mean they're 14 and 20 to 1.

  • That's what he said.

  • Rather than, you know, getting stuck into the 4 to 1 slates house or the 10 to 1 below me depict ones that have to prove they can do it.

  • Yeah, Do you think that's what I mean?

  • I look to this race before Hunt and I thought there wasn't a bonkers one that looked you in the face and you thought This is really well in.

  • It's almost like these races.

  • The weight doesn't matter as much anymore without being fair Common.

  • I've never been a great weight man anyway, so I've always tried to find the best horse.

  • The problem is, as I was saying that but I always sometimes think the best horse is the one that hasn't proven it yet.

  • But in these races, especially it tell him, I think, where it's all about rhythm and jumping and being able to act under the circumstances that going, maybe I should be.

  • You know, What did we see in the ground in the last year? 00:04:55.750 --> 00:05:0.040 100 to 1 shot Crock O Bay or whatever it was called down 100 times, 12 year old. 00:05:0.040 --> 00:05:1.900 But you could do it because he knew what you know. 00:05:1.930 --> 00:05:4.190 He'd handled the circumstances before. 00:05:4.690 --> 00:05:10.060 Sometimes gets, I think, guilty of gang stepped into sort of the sexy ones, is what they used to call them.

  • But you know what I mean?

  • Rather than looking at the more solid ones and happy even fitted the bill perfectly.

  • Yeah.

  • You mentioned Bellamy to pick tonight.

  • I must admit I backed him as well, and I thought, considering he all but got brought down at the first fence or I don't know when it was by a man a knocker thought he run a really good race, but probably needs three miles now, so he'd beat off.

  • I want to take out of it from me.

  • What's the any horse that you thought run particularly in behind for Warthog Ran Ran a nice race on on his return again is one.

  • If you look back at last season, you know, you could have you could have given him any choice Creek.

  • And you wanna really bold race.

  • But you know that side warthogs, slate house, you know, probably if we get similar grounds in the big in the big handicap next month, that Children's meeting, you might go back there and might might get get some recompense. 00:05:56.780 --> 00:06:3.200 But, you know, as we've seen already, he's being found by the market and the way you ran on Saturday, you're not going to get much more mileage in this price. 00:06:3.200 --> 00:06:4.970 You know, she goes to Seattle the next time. 00:06:5.090 --> 00:06:5.910 Exactly. 00:06:5.920 --> 00:06:8.060 *** are welcome to the show. 00:06:8.060 --> 00:06:18.470 We've not managed to catch up with you, so far wth the next logical target for a lot of these is gonna be the Caspian Caviar Gold Cup of you got Price Unhappy diva for that?

  • Yeah, we put her in a photo one.

  • Maddie.

  • It was brilliant to be telling them on Saturday, but seeing all the pilgrims return return to the home of national jumps racing after a disappointing down Friday.

  • Andi, I'm very placing the lease.

  • I'm pleased to say I once enjoyed a barbecue Richard and Carol A's and I put on a good good show.

  • So happy diva gain recompense for last year, and she's 8 to 1 for the Caspian caviar.

  • I wish I got invited to these barbecue anyway.

  • We'll move on.

  • We suspect about Robbie Power earlier, and he was at his very best when guiding West approach to Victor.

  • I think it was his 16th attempt at Cheltenham and Tom, What can I say? 00:06:59.900 --> 00:07:0.580 Is this all cracks? 00:07:0.580 --> 00:07:2.450 Brother is he's got the ability. 00:07:2.990 --> 00:07:5.090 Yeah, it was good with the bad race, wasn't it? 00:07:5.100 --> 00:07:5.780 Let's be honest. 00:07:5.780 --> 00:07:10.810 It was a bad race that I thought once Ramsey's to teii sort of floundered a bit under what happened there.

  • I don't think it took my twinning.

  • What would you do with him now?

  • West.

  • Approach him in the lab.

  • Brooks Trophy.

  • If he's in it, I'm not sure he is.

  • But that's the race I'd go for.

  • I think he's, you know, he's very, very similar.

  • Last year's winner.

  • Remember what say we all sat there thinking, Who is that one?

  • That one.

  • A big price last size in Tennessee?

  • Yeah, isn't it?

  • Is a 14 to 1 shot.

  • That's where I'd go.

  • I think he's confidence is up.

  • You could ride him the same way and I think you'd be in the four.

  • Definitely.

  • Yeah.

  • Okay.

  • Anything to Madame?

  • Worst approach?

  • No, he's one of those horses I don't mind taking a chance on because he's got the ability there.

  • He's got it in the tank, and you know it has to be ridden perfectly, and things have to fall right for him.

  • But I'd rather you take a chance on a horse like that that's got it in him.

  • T win a decent pot.

  • Someone maybe hasn't you know? 00:07:57.510 --> 00:08:6.480 So, yeah, I'd be interested in a decent prices and all these big handicaps this season because, you know, it's a very good chance room, at least grabbing a place on Dhe. 00:08:6.480 --> 00:08:10.910 Possibly if if the cards fall right for him, you know, hitting, hitting the top spot.

  • So, yeah, I could see him running really well in something like a Ladbrokes traitor.

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah.

  • I'm preparing to eat my words here.

  • Butthole Stone was another one of the winners on Saturday.

  • And, Tom, I'm not quite convinced that we've seen the r s a winner in Britain just yet.

  • What did you think of the race That he won?

  • Look, he's a good, solid horses.

  • Never.

  • I'd be surprised if it was very soft.

  • Come, come, Children.

  • Men for the crusade.

  • A has to be in there, doesn't it?

  • Because he likes that sort of ground.

  • He's been placed as he'd been placed.

  • I think you've been placed in a state of hurdles in his life.

  • He's got, you know, jumps pretty well, you know, But he's twisting Davis horse that will get there in great form way you stays out three miles.

  • I mean, that's that is the question with him with him. 00:08:55.550 --> 00:09:2.430 I know he should have said that when I was talking about one thing about him despite being placed in the stairs that I'm no, actually committees a massive stare. 00:09:2.430 --> 00:09:2.920 You're right. 00:09:3.950 --> 00:09:6.590 Once again, I'd sort go back to the West approach thing. 00:09:6.590 --> 00:09:7.700 I don't think it was a e. 00:09:7.700 --> 00:09:9.830 I think what you were saying in your intro there is spot on. 00:09:9.830 --> 00:09:11.510 I don't think it was a brilliant racer.

  • Thought rock point run a really interesting race for the future.

  • He is Santini's brother, believe it or not.

  • So these colonies are horses you know very well, right?

  • It was an interesting one for a national one day for Milo.

  • Yeah, for Milo, Milo and then maybe a Scottish national or a grand national or something like that in the future where he stayed on really?

  • Well, him was a little bit surprised that I wasn't expecting that from him.

  • I thought he was I thought he was gonna need.

  • And I didn't think he was quite up to getting as close to a whole stone as he did.

  • So, uh, provided the handicapper doesn't smash here.

  • Might be interested in to him in the back end of the season in one of those races.

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah, I thought so too.

  • What?

  • See, any thoughts on whole Stone?

  • Yes.

  • Funny is, I thought exactly the same as you.

  • And halfway up the running I thought was a moment where you just gotta got really tired.

  • And I thought I could see something finishing here and just coming to do in.

  • But, you know, fair enough fair scene out really well. 00:09:58.860 --> 00:10:8.890 And I've always had him down in kind of my mind, you know, two and 1/2 my life would be just about sees out three miles, but maybe not quite, but no. 00:10:8.890 --> 00:10:9.570 Hats off to him. 00:10:9.570 --> 00:10:13.090 He said he saw out Well, there, you know, you solid teas.

  • No, it doesn't kind of give you a while factor, Anything like that.

  • But sometimes, you know, the sordid one says we spoke about a minute ago.

  • They were the ones you need rather than a factually one.

  • So I certainly wouldn't rule him out.

  • You know, if you just go to the same march, I'm sure unless he does something exceptional between now and then, you get decent price about him and, you know, is probably a good chance of him, at least finishing in the 1st 3 Yeah.

  • Okay.

  • I'd say Saturday as well was also a Davis for not lesser jockeys, but not so much in the spotlight.

  • We had David Maxwell winning and Sam Leah's.

  • Well, good to see those jockeys getting their moment in the sun and even, I mean, I was there yesterday.

  • There was pony racing, and you could see how much it meant to get these victories at Cheltenham.

  • What's great for David Maxwell?

  • I mean, you know, I think he's 41 years of agent, you know, fair play to him. 00:10:59.330 --> 00:11:0.220 In days gone by. 00:11:0.220 --> 00:11:3.710 I didn't always look the most stylish, but I think his writing has improved enormously. 00:11:4.310 --> 00:11:6.640 It's brave of Philip hopes as well. 00:11:6.640 --> 00:11:10.430 You go for a big Saturday race with a horse like that and be easy for Philip to say.

  • Well, okay, David, you know, you've had a good spin on him in his previous races.

  • Reckon surely you're giving the pays for the pace that money takes his, You know, he's probably sent up.

  • Philip, You got the horse.

  • I ride it, pal.

  • Yeah.

  • I mean, that's obviously the way it works.

  • All I'm saying is that you know, you could You could easily envisage a situation where David Maxwell rides and maybe in this war, my races.

  • And then if it's a big pot like it was on Saturday, Richard Johnson or somebody like that comes in and rides.

  • But so I think it's ballsy of Hobbes.

  • T let him, you know, to let him do it.

  • David Maxwell has earned this chance by riding very, very well, and he obviously gets on great with this chatter.

  • Louie.

  • I think he's unbeaten since he's come over.

  • Hey, Paul's huge amounts of money into the game on Dhe.

  • You know, he's really, really worked on his writing, and I think it shows in his races. 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:1.060 And you wrote a very nice race because I think the horse isn't easy. 00:12:1.060 --> 00:12:2.610 Got loose before his previous start. 00:12:2.610 --> 00:12:4.170 Weather being still came back on one. 00:12:4.310 --> 00:12:7.770 He pulled quite hard on Saturday but still had enough in the tent to go on in school. 00:12:7.770 --> 00:12:10.640 So listen, you know top marks for David Maxwell from May.

  • I think you know, he's he's no handicapping the saddle it all.

  • Yeah, I totally agree.

  • I think it's really admirable how as much as he's plowed a lot of money into the game, he absolutely loved it up.

  • It was an excellent winning interview and his riding like it says, Come on.

  • Leaps and bounds so well done to him, Ben is before we move on, let's just get some prices.

  • I mean, Tom mentioned West approach for the lab.

  • Richthofen Whole stone for the Arcee.

  • What prices can we get about those?

  • Well, actually, I think that Colin tis up was suggesting that, um, West approach might be more of a wealthy grand national horse.

  • Maddie robbed in the lab books trophy, and we've We've inserted him into the wealth National betting This morning early this afternoon, 20 to 1 as far.

  • Asshole Stone goes, Yeah, yourself in what's? 00:12:57.790 --> 00:13:1.450 He seemed to think that he might be more of a two and 1/2 mile in our roads. 00:13:1.450 --> 00:13:6.030 Compilers agreed Immediately after the race, we threw him into the jail. 00:13:6.030 --> 00:13:11.870 Tino Mrs Chase, 20 to 1, which could about one thing about Saturday.

  • Max McNeill and Greg Stone.

  • There was a huge smile on their face when Firestone one because it frank them okays hill form from the last meeting.

  • So I look forward to seeing that horse when it runs next.

  • Yeah, well mentioned business lets me want to Sunday, then in the Schiller Chase, just the forerunners, but served up a thrilling race.

  • I think they're all in with a shout with two to go and definitely so it came out on top.

  • Tom, do you see him as a champion Chase contender?

  • Or do you think they're better off going for the Ryanair 100% bona fide champion Chase contender?

  • Yes, I think he was the star off the two days.

  • Undoubtedly, I think he's in.

  • I think it just really, really, really top horse, and I think the reality or isn't it?

  • I think he's better than anything else you're raced against last year, and I think he'd give him a real good racing. 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:0.250 That is obviously a chance. 00:14:0.250 --> 00:14:2.230 He'll go for the two and 1/2 mile of the Ryanair is now. 00:14:2.230 --> 00:14:3.750 That's what the trip you went over last year. 00:14:3.750 --> 00:14:8.880 But looking back at the jail T last year, Maddie and probably the last time I was on we were talking about the J. 00:14:8.880 --> 00:14:10.860 Lt was all I think.

  • We all said at the time that it wasn't a great race.

  • It's a bit you know, this that and the other deputies saw in Lost in translation.

  • They're about the same.

  • They won't even favorite for the Scilly Isles.

  • Believe it or not, I'm on the blind side was favorite to beat them both in the Scilly Isles novice chase, and we sort of downplaying it.

  • And since then, everything that's running the jail T has come out on one on one beer gracing vindication.

  • Real steel Father Rev kill this art.

  • They've all come out in one big races.

  • It's just red hot form, and I think that future Soy is a brilliant horse.

  • I was so impressed with the way sprints up that hill, and I think he's I think he's a danger to anything over any trip.

  • Really?

  • Yeah, I totally agree.

  • What's the art out of them in the champion?

  • Trace.

  • I think that they mentioned the Tingle Greek next, which would indicate there.

  • So the leaning towards that way. 00:14:54.790 --> 00:15:1.030 Tom's already mentioned he's got great Sandown form, just a really bonny little horse, and I thought he jumped. 00:15:1.250 --> 00:15:6.030 Maybe it's slightly more carefully than some of the others, but you'd expect that first time out for a little horse. 00:15:6.030 --> 00:15:7.560 He's just got such an engine, isn't it? 00:15:7.740 --> 00:15:8.140 Yeah. 00:15:8.140 --> 00:15:8.810 I love the horse. 00:15:8.810 --> 00:15:11.780 And I don't see any good reason why they won't go for the champion Chase.

  • If you've got the choice of both, I think you'd rather win the champion chase than Ryan There I was slightly surprised last season they didn't go down the Arkle route.

  • I thought we could have won that race easily.

  • They decided to stick with a longer route and it paid off, obviously, because he won, but arguably a faster in two miles might even suit him suiting better.

  • And, you know, you look back at the history of Champion Chase winners.

  • Most of those horses stay two and 1/2 miles.

  • Problem it.

  • Also coming back in trip?

  • Obviously no, no issue for him.

  • It'll Yeah, I know.

  • I'm very, very interesting or no shock.

  • And Paul Swap put him in this place that punches down right the end of last season.

  • But, you know, I would always have a bit of trepidation about trusting form at