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  • >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WELCOME BACK.

  • HERE WE'RE WE'RE HERE TALKING WITH MAYOR MICHAEL BLOOMBERG WHO

  • ARE FUNNING FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT OF THE

  • UNITED STATES.

  • ONE WEEK BEFORE YOU AWE NOUNCED YOUR CANDIDACY YOU GAVE A SPEECH

  • WHERE YOU APOLOGIZED FOR STOP AND FRISK.

  • >> YUP.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT MOTIVATED YOU IN THAT MOMENT OTHER THAN THE

  • FACT YOU WERE TRYING TO APPEAL TO A BROADER DEMOCRATIC

  • COALITION?

  • >> LOOK, I STARTED OUT WITH 650 MURDERS A YEAR IN THE CITY,

  • MOSTLY YOUNG MINORITY MALES.

  • HAD TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

  • YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO STOP THE CARNAGE.

  • DID THE BEST I COULD.

  • NEAR THE END, I REALIZED WE WERE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL AND DOING

  • IT TOO MUCH.

  • ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE WOMAN WHO'S MY ASSISTANT WHO SITS NEXT

  • TO ME, HAS A YOUNG SON, AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN

  • IF HER SON WAS GETTING STOPPED.

  • AND I TOOK A LOOK AND SAID LET'S TRY SOMETHING: STOP DOING THE

  • STOP AND FRISK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

  • WE THOUGHT MURDERS WOULD GO UP, AND IT DIDN'T.

  • I SAID LET'S PHASE IT OUT.

  • AND BEFORE I LEFT OFFICE, WE CUT 95% OF THEM OUT.

  • THEN I-- SOMEBODY SAID, "WHAT DID YOU DO?"

  • I SAID, "I MADE A MISTAKE."

  • AND IF YOU CAN'T APOLOGIZE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU LIVE WITH

  • YOURSELF.

  • SOMETIMES YOU JUST-- NOT EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT-- NOT

  • EVERYTHING GOES THE RIGHT WAY.

  • SOMETIMES YOU DO SOMETHING WRONG.

  • APOLOGIZE AND GET ON WITH IT.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, WHILE YOU WERE MAYOR THERE WAS A LOT OF

  • CRITICISM FROM IT.

  • IT WENT FROM 95,000 STOP AND FRISK WHEN YOU STARTED TO

  • 600,000 AT ITS PEAK.

  • AND THERE WAS A LOT OF CRITICISM.

  • WHY NOT ASSESS IT WHILE IT'S GOING ON?

  • AS A LEADER, WE WANT TON WHILE YOU'RE IN POWER YOU CHANGE YOUR

  • MIND, NOT AFTER IT DOESN'T MATTER.

  • >> NO, WE DID.

  • BUT THE MURDER RATE WENT FROM 650 DOWN TO 300.

  • WE REDUCED DRAMATICALLY.

  • AND -- >> Stephen: BUT YOU'RE SAYING

  • IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF STOP AND FRISK BECAUSE WHEN YOU STOPPED

  • IT, IT DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

  • >> WELL, WE DID THE BEST THING WE COULD.

  • I THINK IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.

  • YOU DO TOO MUCH OF ONE THING YOU STOPPED DOING IT.

  • WE REDUCED THE INCARCERATION RATE.

  • WE REDUCED THE RECIDIVISM RATE.

  • WE STARTED A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROGRAMS FOR YOUNG KIDS, ONE OF

  • WHICH PRESIDENT OBAMA COPIED FOR THE NATION.

  • YOU HAVE TO DO ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS AND TRY AND SEE WHAT

  • HAPPENS.

  • >> Stephen: WHEN YOU WERE MAYOR OF NEW YORK, DID YOU EVER

  • HAVE TO DEAL WITH DONALD TRUMP WHO IS, YOU KNOW, BY HIS OWN

  • DESCRIPTION A PROMINENT NEW YORKER, CERTAINLY A FAMOUS GUY,

  • A "BOSTON HERALD," AS HE SAYS, IN NEW YORK?

  • >> HE WAS REASONABLY WELL KNOWN.

  • HE WAS A REAL ESTATE PROMOTER.

  • >> Stephen: NOT DEVELOPER.

  • YOU CALL A "PROMOTER."

  • >> I THINK SO.

  • A LOT OF BUILDINGS HE DIDN'T BUILD.

  • HE JUST PUT HIS NAME ON IT.

  • >> Stephen: OKAY.

  • DID YOU GUYS HANG OUT?

  • DID YOU GUYS DO ANYTHING TOGETHER?

  • >> WELL, WE CUT SOME RIBBONS TOGETHER.

  • HE BOUGHT THE RICE RIGHTS TO BUILD A CLUB HOUSE.

  • >> Stephen: I TRUSTED HIM WITH A SHARP OBJECT.

  • >> I STOOD FAR AWAY.

  • I ACTUALLY PLAYED GOLF WITH HIM ONCE AT A CHARITY TOURNAMENT.

  • >> Stephen: DID HE CHEAT?

  • DID HE CHEAT?

  • >> NO, BECAUSE WE HAD FIVE BALLS IN THE AIR ANYWHERE.

  • BUT HE HAS A REPUTATION OF, SHALL WE SAY, NOT BEING

  • SCRUPULOUS IN HOW HE COUNTS STROKES.

  • ( APPLAUSE ).

  • >> Stephen: OR WIVES-- >> WE TOOK THE SUBWAY TO--

  • ( APPLAUSE ) HE-- HE DHOWEVER, THE ONE TIME I

  • TALKED TO HIM AFTER HE WAS ELECTED BUT BEFORE HE TOOK

  • OFFICE, HE GAVE ME HIS PERSONAL CELL PHONE NUMBER.

  • >> Stephen: PLEASE TELL ME YOU STILL HAVE IT.

  • >> I DIDN'T BOTHIR TO WRITE IT DOWN.

  • >> Stephen: DAMN IT!

  • WE CAN CALL HIM RIGHT NOW.

  • WHAT'S IT LIKE ON THE ROAD.

  • WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN SO FAR?

  • IF YOU'RE NOT CAMPAIGNING HEAVILY IN THE FIRST FOUR

  • STATES, WHERE IS YOUR FOCUS RIGHT NOW?

  • >> WE'VE BEEN TO 20 STATES AND 40 CITIES.

  • I START GOING OUT TO THE WEST COAST ON THURSDAY MORNING.

  • >> Stephen: CALIFORNIA BEING SUPER TUESDAY THIS TIME.

  • >> CALIFORNIA, AND THEN THROUGH UTAH-- ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO

  • WASHINGTON, D.C. FIRST, AND THEN OUT THERE, GO THROUGH IDAHO, GO

  • THROUGH UTAH, AND THEN BACK.

  • BUT IT WILL BE SIX DAYS ON THE ROAD.

  • AND THEN I'LL BE BACK FOR A COUPLE DAYS, AND YOU DO IT

  • AGAIN.

  • I'VE GOT A GREAT STAFF.

  • THEY DO ALL THE THINGS BACK HERE, AND MY JOB IS TO GET OUT

  • AND LET PEOPLE SEE WHO I AM, AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL LIKE ME, AND

  • IF THEY DON'T, NOTHING ELSE I CAN DO, JUST BE MYSELF.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, YOU HAVE A $10 MILLION AD BUY IN THE SUPER

  • BOWL.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: YOU CAN TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE AD?

  • >> >> YES BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TELL

  • YOU.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) NO, THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY IS

  • IT'S A SERIOUS SUBJECT.

  • I'M A BELIEVER THAT I SHOULD BE SPENDING MY MONEY TO DO WHAT I

  • THINK IS RIGHT AND GIVE PEOPLE OPTIONS.

  • AND IT DOESN'T QUITE FIT IN WITH POPCORN AND BEER.

  • BUT IT'S A CHANCE TO REACH AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE.

  • AND IT TALKS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT, AND

  • I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTRY.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

  • GOOD LUCK.

  • IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BILLIONAIRE PRESIDENT YOU SEEM

  • LEAK A MUCH NICER ONE.

  • AND ALL THE LUCK IN THE WORLD.

  • MAYOR MICHAEL BLOOMBERG, EVERYBODY!

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WELCOME BACK.

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