In talking about the Coronavirus, which is now being perceived as a pandemic.

It's certainly being identified as a global health emergency.

I wonder whether you think that the World Health Organization is right in in saying that China is handling this well.

I think that Lucio Ah has a deeper problem and I think many world organizations should play much effective on the Andi very fire row in those judgment.

I think they made a big mistake at the first announcement that on trying to say this is not a relevant enough for them to announce this crisis which delayed the you know, which can some favor for Chinese government because they want to cover it up on dog also, but sacrifice people's life and I think this is a deeper problem is uh, w h o.

Do you think that that's what the Chinese authorities have been doing?

It one covering up it happened.

Being willing to sacrifice people's lives.

I think the Chinese government, always through the same US and turn society, is solvent to say this is our internal problem.

It doesn't matter how many people dies, just numbers, you know very in control on.

They should have confidence with us the basis as Europe but which is beyond their control.

They can use a cane this but they never learn.

2003 SARS happens.

They did the exactly same.

Didn't ever really improve, you know, they can always prove in 10 days they have a hospital.

But home they found those has bit of functions by military and hope that I mean the so called the patient arbitrated nobody would know.

Yeah, this is a crazy. Even all the numbers being exposed are announced by Chinese government.

It's not believable.

Doesn't a problem.

You know, this is kind of society.

The deep problem is they lost the public trust internally or internationally.

It's like you're constantly dealing with some while who lies under.

Yes, you can listen to their was there talking.

But in your mind, the obvious have the struggle.

Is that true?

That's the full picture on.

Are you gonna wonder why you're saying that you're leading me to somewhere you know?

So those kind of problem would always to exist if they don't have ah democratic society and the the the media price.

Uh, freedom off media or individual freedom, of course, and dissent is is very, very dangerous and difficult inside China.

We only have to look at what's happening in Xin Jiang.

With that with the week is being detained, I wonder how you think the rest of the world should engage with China on these issues given.

Given the fact that China is so important to so many countries economically, I think it may be too late because the structure designed capitalism.

It's has to use the other people's disadvantage to toe enlarges home power to benefit theirself, so the business will goto.

Certainly China is offers the biggest market on the laborers under which is not you cannot never even imagine can get that kind of labor that kind of condition in the West.

So the through the free economy competition every business will prefer China is.

That's why you know all those top 500 companies.

Eso eager toe will find this dream land, and it's not easy to pull out in China.

May say a sentence.

You can ride the tiger, but you cannot get off from the tiger because it will be, you know.

So I think the West is writing this tiger under they all had a problem.