Thank you for joining me.

So we're on Microsoft campus right now.

Can you tell me about this rumor in?

Because this is a sort of an interesting space.

Yeah.

I mean, this is space where we think about workspaces.

So we're not just talking about software, but even the physical space.

And we get to play around and imagine what the future could look like.

Yeah, a lot of cool stuff in here.

So you're the CEO of Microsoft.

You have a big job.

A lot of people, of course, know what Microsoft does, but I'm curious.

Just what's your day to day like, Especially this time of year.

It's super busy.

I got these new products coming out.

There's a lot happening.

What do you feel like you're doing?

Often right now is a CEO, You know, to me, it's such a privilege to be part of Microsoft up, sort of spend all my adult life here on dhe.

I think the thing that's unique about Microsoft is the opportunity I get in anyone off the 100,000 purse.

Plus, people who work here get to really think about how re empowering others through our technology, right?

I mean, that's what I always say.

We have a platform and a product of any company and the core.

So whether it's a student in a school or a small business or a large corporation, question is not about the tack that be produced.

But what are they doing creating with Tech?

And that's even today.

You know, when I look at the meetings I've already had this morning, you know, to be able to meet that cross section of the world that's being impacted by tech.

That's just a privilege.

Of course, being a CEO, you're not only in meetings, but you're sort of representing the company and its vision for the future.

And I've heard you say that you have a clear vision for the future of Microsoft, and we'll get into that a little bit.

But I also wonder if you've been the CEO for a couple years, but you've been a Microsoft for much, much longer than that.

So I'm curious if there are things that surprised you, or that you found interesting that you learned once you got to this position as a leadership role at mere yes, that's right.

I've been close to 30 years now and Microsoft close to five and 1/2 years a CEO.

Time flies.

There's a lot that I learned.

I mean in particular, even though I grew up here, how multi constituent the world this on DDE What it means for a CEO to keep all of that in balance.

What it means for a company like us.

It's, of course, about our customers.

It's about our employees.

It's about our partners.

It's about our shareholders.

Guess what it's all about, all of them all the time simultaneously and to me, that's, I think, perhaps the realization.

Maybe I used to think about one constituent before at a time, and now it's a question.

No, really thinking about all of it all the time, catching a lot of multi faceted pieces of focus.

Did you get any advice from So you followed up Steve Bomber in that role, and I've also spoken to Bill Gates on this Siri's.

Did he talk to them at all?

Or do you get advice from them about leading this company?

Oh, absolutely.

And Andi.

In fact, the best advice I got was from Steve in some tens of this is parting advice to me, and I always remember that.

He sort of said, Be bold and be right on it, sort of, If you're not born, you don't do big things.

But if you're not right, you're not gonna be there from watch longer.

And so therefore, that ability to see the world as it is and yet at the same time, defy it.

Eyes what our business is all about.

Now, Satya Nadella, my successors, sort of taking things there to infinity and beyond.

If you will have a quote from you to read about Microsoft, you say our business is to meet unmet and unarticulated needs of our customers.

And I find it really interesting because that's a goal of a lot of business is to be able to find out what cost potential customers are interested in and solve those things.

How do you and how does Microsoft figure out what people want before they know they wanted?

First, let me say that's our aspiration.

In fact, the reason why I got to that was I felt that what does it mean to Cort?

If I design thinking in your culture right, it's not about just go to the classical design thinking it's it's really about developing that deep sense of empathy for people you are trying to self on.

That means meeting unmet, unarticulated needs, getting behind even the words and actions you observe here.

And that's kind of where that comes from.

One of the things that we're on a quest for Microsoft is what we call a growth mindset or confronting our fixed mindset.

And I think the real core of that is that empathy and that ability to continues, learn, push conventional wisdom.

Um, and so I would save you.

That's a journey that will never come complete.

But at least we can say today.

Are we learning RV today?

Trying to be more empathetic towards that unmet on optically did need out there in the world.

I also happen to be a big fan of Microsoft's design language right now, and we've we've seen, you know, this new hardware now with Surface Pro seven and these these incredibly sleek, clean lines and everything.

Everything is very well considered some a fan of that, um is this a part of Microsoft's vision for the future is sort of the way tech looks I would say we've become much more conscious off why it's important not just to think about the software experience but to think about the software experience as it manifests in beautiful devices with great design and aesthetic.

Because ultimately people relate to things as much as two software on I would say that's kind of really being What's the self?

If I started what's the biggest contribution of surface?

It's a very sizable business for us.

We're excited about the products it's creating and in fact helping the entire PC industry.

But the one thing that I'm most proud off of the surface is it's created, I think, that design sensibility inside the company, that's much more pro bass.

And there's also, I mean, the product themselves are fantastic.

They're obviously Microsoft's made Windows devices.

How do you think about them being competitors to other Windows devices?

So out?

Something I talk about all the time on this channel is Google makes android devices and other companies make android devices, so there's a potential advantage for that company to do whatever they want ahead of time.

Um, Microsoft makes Windows, Microsoft makes Windows devices, and so do other companies So how does this ecosystem How do you think about that relationship?

No, it's a great I mean, it's a very important question for us.

Obviously.

There is hundreds of millions of Windows devices sold each year, and we make a small, very small percentage of them in surface.

So the goal here is to innovate on behalf of the entire ecosystem.

Create new categories.

Take the R and B risk.

Take the inventory is take the marketing risk, which sometimes is not possible for any one player in our ecosystem.

And so therefore that sort of really what led to even the creation.

If you think about surface, nobody thought a two in one could God created Onda.

We created the category of its surface.

It took us a couple of tries to get there, but that result risk that we had to as a company take.

And the other thing that you know, I you know, I love that Alan Kay code.

If you're serious of audio software, you will take your hardware seriously, and I think that makes sense and tow us really going that extra mile all the way to ensuring from silicon to the cloud things are coming together around.

The experience has been a very important thing for us.

Do you think of them as leading the way for potential other companies to follow?

So a lot of times you have design language, cues or small things that you can match with the hardware.

Do you feel like, you know, tying all that experience together?

Is something for others to follow?

Or is it just an option Among the many options?

No, it's for sure.

We expect others to follow.

But at the same time, what we're also trying to make sure is we're building devices.

Ultimately, it's just not a hobby.

It is a core part of Microsoft's business, but in doing a great job with it, I think we are inspiring others to do also.

Ah, great job and raise the game.

If you look at the ecosystem today on the quality off, the PC is coming up.

Let's say this holiday from everyone, and you compare it to sort of the priest's office era.

That's a market difference.

So I think raising standards across the board is a super important artifact and creation of new categories.

All right, so part of this ongoing a conversation, I think, is a lot of fun.

Um, I've spoken to people who are very, very positive on a A and those who are, you know, more weary about his potential negatives.

But I've seen with Microsoft is doing great things with the eye.

For example, the neural chip on the surface Pro X Taking a lot of those specific things with processing off of the main processor.

How do you think about a I and and its potential upside.

How do you weight against its potential downside?

I mean, I first start with a sense of possibility and optimism.

In fact, one of the things that I care deeply about is how Connie I bring more accessibility technology to people.

So, for example, what we've done with the eye gaze, technology and windows is fairly magical, right?

I mean the fact that you can type with your gaze eyes now possible on any Windows machine, and that's something that's enabled by eye or what we're doing with just computer vision and seeing eye or what we're doing with learning tools.

The other thing, you inside of edge or in any office document you can now If you have dyslexia, how have the ability to read because of just the spacing that is just being managed through a I?

So these are all things, in fact, that a bringing more people into the mainstream off our workforce in our society, and that's fantastic to see.

But at the same time, I'm clear eyed about the unintended consequences.

Let's take bias, right?

I mean, if you take a language model that has been trained, and if it's sort of got bias embedded, you need to de bias it.

So that means we even have to raise thegame in terms of the software engineering associate ID with the creation of a I so that we really don't have these unintended consequences.

So that's what I would say is the balance that all of us is.

Creators away.

I have to strike.

Absolutely.

So if I have, my final question to you is there's a lot of exciting things happening in the world of tech.

What's one super exciting thing to you in Tech that Microsoft is not yet involved with?

Look, I mean, we definitely are not going to Mars, you know, directly but indirectly, we would love In fact, the one thing that I love about Microsoft being that technology enabler is real need to be in Walden all cool things intact.

We can empower all the people out there who are trying to do cool things around the world.

Yeah, let it be strong in the things that you're strong with and explore in other areas.

Absolutely, and really help others.

You know, the thing that I'm most excited about is whether it's somebody who's Friday tree create a solar grade in Kenya in the cloud or someone who is creating an autonomous Waco.

Both of them can use computing tools, computing technology from us and really democratize the reach of digital technology.

Awesome.

Well, I appreciate you sitting down in this exciting time to talk tech for a little bit and hopefully get to do it again sometime.

Absolutely.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you.