WE'RE HERE WITH PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS.

NOW NANCY PELOSI, SPEAKER PELOSI SAYS TRUMP'S OBSTRUCTION COULD

BE IMPEACHABLE.

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: YOU BELIEVE THAT CHARGES OF IMPEACHMENT SHOULD BE

BROUGHT AGAINST THE PRESIDENT.

>> NO, I BELIEVE THAT THE PROCESS SHOULD BEGIN TO DO AN

INVESTIGATION TO DETERMINE ULTIMATELY WHETHER IMPEACHMENT

SHOULD HAPPEN.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND THE INVESTIGATIONS THAT

ARE GOING ON NOW?

>> WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CONGRESS ACTUALLY INITIATING

A PROCESS TOWARD IMPEACHMENT -- >> Stephen: AN IMPEACHMENT

INQUIRY?

>> YES, AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY WHERE AT THE END THEY WOULD

PRODUCE FINDINGS AND A RECOMMENDATION.

AND IF THERE BE AN IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE

SENT OVER TO THE SENATE.

STEPHEN, I WILL SAY THIS, I HAVE CALLED AND DO BELIEVE THAT

PROCESS SHOULD BEGIN.

I THINK THERE'S A VERY GOOD REASON TO DO IT.

AND I AGREE WITH NANCY PELOSI'S STATEMENT TODAY.

I WILL ALSO SAY THAT IT IS ALSO FAIR THAT WE-- WE ARE REALISTIC

THAT THE SENATE IS NOT GOING TO IMPEACH THIS GUY.

WE DON'T-- WE DON'T CONTROL THE MAJORITY.

AND I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE-- AND THERE'S BEEN NO

EVIDENCE ON THE SENATE SIDE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY DO THE

RIGHT THING.

>> Stephen: IS THERE AN EXTRA POWER THAT COMES WITH STARTING

AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY?

IN OTHER WORDS, ARE THERE REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION,

SUBPOENAS, ARE THEY LESS DENIABLE FOR A PRESIDENT IF THE

IMPEACHMENT-- WHAT IS THE VALUE THEN OF STARTING THE IMPEACHMENT

INQUIRY?

>> PART OF THE VALUE IS PRESERVING THE-- THE-- THIS

CONSTRUCT OF OUR DEMOCRACY THAT THE FOUNDERS IMAGINED, WHICH IS

THAT WE HAVE THREE INDEPENDENT COEQUAL BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT

WHERE THERE SHOULD BE CHECKS AND BALANCES.

AND THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO CONDUCT

ITSELF IN A WAY THAT WE-- WE PURSUE THESE INQUIRIES AND

DETERMINE IF THIS PRESIDENT HAS IN FACT OBSTRUCT JUSTICE AND

VIOLATED THE LAW.

SO IT'S ABOUT MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF OUR DEMOCRACY AND

THE DESIGN OF IT.

BUT I WILL SAY, THAT BEING SAID, WE SHOULD FIGHT FOR THAT AND

FIGHT FOR THE VALUE OF THE CONSTRUCT AND OUR DEMOCRACY.

BUT THE REALITY ALSO IS THAT AT THE END OF THIS, THE SENATE

PROBABLY WILL NOT VOTE TO IMPIECH HIM, WHICH MEANS THAT

HE'LL PROBABLY PRANCE AROUND AND SAY, "SEE, WITCH HUNT, WITCH

HUNT.

THEY WENT AFTER ME AND DIDN'T GET ME."

SO WE HAVE TO ALSO BALANCE, RIGHT-- THIS IS A REALITY.

>> Stephen: I NEVER IMAGINED HIM PRANCING BEFORE, BUT THANK

YOU FOR THAT-- THANK YOU FOR THAT IMAGE.

( LAUGHTER ).

>> WELL -- >> Stephen: YOU UNVEILED A NEW

POLICY PROPOSAL THIS WEEK.

YOUR EQUAL PAY PLAN.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: WHAT'S THE PLAN-- ( APPLAUSE )

BECAUSE-- WHAT'S THE PLAN?

BECAUSE I REMEMBER OBAMA ON DAY ONE SIGNED LILY LEDBETTER ACT.

>> WHICH WAS AMAZING.

>> Stephen: WHAT WOULD BE COVERED BY THAT.

>> PRESIDENT OBAMA, TOGETHER WITH LILY LEDBETTER AND IT WAS

HISTORIC WHAT HE DID AND IT WAS THE FIRST BILL HE SIGNED WHICH

IS REALLY WAS A STRONG STATEMENT.

AND I WANT TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT STEP AND THIS IS THAT WHEN

WOMEN-- THEY ARE REQUIRED-- THE LAW SAYS THAT WOMEN AND MEN

SHOULD BE PAID EQUALLY FOR EQUAL WORK.

BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT IN AMERICA TODAY, WOMEN, ON

AVERAGE, ARE PAID 80 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR OF WHAT MEN ARE PAID

FOR THE SAME WORK.

AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN, 61 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR.

LATINAS, 53 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR.

AND THESE ARE ACTUALLY NOT DEBATABLE POINTS.

>> Stephen: SO THIS IS NOT HOURS WORKED ON AVERAGE OVER A

WORK WEEK.

THIS IS HOUR FOR HOUR?

>> YEAH, AND FOR THE SAME WORK.

OR IT COULD BE ANNUAL SALARY, BUT IT'S FOR THE SAME WORK, WHAT

ARE PEOPLE BEING PAID?

SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS THIS, INSTEAD OF REQUIRING THAT WOMAN,

WHO, LET'S SAY SHE'S HANGING OUT AT THE WATER COOLER DURING

BREAK, TALKING TO HER MALE COLLEAGUE, WHO WORKS IN THE

CUBICLE NEXT TO HER DOING THE SAME WORK SHE DOES, AND HE

STARTS TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE GOT HIS KIDS FOR CHRISTMAS, AND IT

IS CLEAR TO HER THAT HE IS MAKING MORE MONEY THAN SHE IS,

RIGHT?

WHAT IS SHE GOING TO DO?

SHE'S NOT GOING TO ASK HIM HOW MUCH HE IS GETTING PAID.

HE PROBABLY WON'T TELL HER.

SHE'LL PROBABLY GO TO THE SUPERVISOR AND SAY, "HOW ARE WE

GETTING PAID?" AND THE SUPERVISOR WILL PROBABLY

SAY SOMETHING LIKE I CAN'T TELL YOU ABOUT SALARIES.

SHE'S SNIFFING AROUND AND HAS NO SENSE OF IT AND HAS NO ACCESS TO

INFORMATION.

MAYBE SHE FILES A COMPLAINT WITH THE E.E.O.C.

AND SHE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LONG PROCESS.

HER COLLEAGUES WILL PROBABLY FIND OUT ABOUT IT.

SHE WILL PROBABLY RECEIVE THE WRATH OF HER COLLEAGUES, AND

MAYBE IT GOES NOWHERE WITH THAT COMPLAINT.

MAYBE SHE HAS TO COME OUT OF POCKET TO HIRE A LAWYER TO SUE

TO GET EQUAL PAY.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS INSTEAD OF HER HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT

PROCESS, LET'S PUT THE ONUS ON THE CORPORATIONS TO PROVE THEY

ARE PAYING PEOPLE EQUALLY, AND SHIFT THE BURDEN FROM HER TO THE

CORPORATION.

AND IN MY OPINION, GOOD BUSINESS IS ABOUT GOOD BUSINESS.

IF YOU ARE CONDUCTING THE BUSINESS IN A WAY THAT YOU ARE

PROUD, THEN YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL US IF YOU'RE PAYING

PEOPLE EQUALLY.

AND I'M ALSO REQUIRING THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO POST ON THEIR

WEBSITE WHETHER THEY HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE E.E.O.C. S IS

PAYING PEOPLE EQUALLY OR NOT.

YOU KNOW, LIKE IN A RESTAURANT-- ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

SO, RIGHT?

>> Stephen: LIKE A HEALTH RATING.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: SENATOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS, EVERYBODY!

CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH THE STAR OF "BOOKSMART," KAITLYN

DEVER.