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  • [TECHNO MUSIC]

  • CROWD: Sam!

  • LAURA HUGHES: Just over a year ago,

  • Sam Gyimah was a Conservative minister

  • serving in the government.

  • SAM GYIMAH: Who's taking the picture?

  • Oh.

  • LAURA HUGHES: But today, he's standing as a Liberal Democrat

  • in the seat of Kensington.

  • SAM GYIMAH: Are you ready?

  • LAURA HUGHES: Are you telling people

  • that you were a conservative?

  • SAM GYIMAH: They all know.

  • LAURA HUGHES: Is that actually helping you, in some ways,

  • get those Tory votes?

  • SAM GYIMAH: Well, it's a very politically engaged

  • constituency.

  • And I have huge name recognition on the doorsteps

  • because people know my story.

  • They know when I resigned as a minister.

  • They know I was one of the 21 who rebelled against no deal.

  • We've got a potentially hard left government

  • and a hard Brexit government.

  • Both of them are extreme, and we need

  • a sensible party in the middle.

  • You know, Boris Johnson will say that he needs the biggest

  • majority ever.

  • But he's gambling with our economic future.

  • [TECHNO MUSIC]

  • SUBJECT 1: Hi!

  • How can I help?

  • SAM GYIMAH: Hi.

  • I'm Sam.

  • I'm the Lib Dem parliamentary candidate.

  • SUBJECT 1: Oh, hi!

  • LAURA HUGHES: What was Sam like as a student at school?

  • ROGER HARCOURT: Thoroughly professional.

  • Very talented, obviously.

  • A model student, really.

  • LAURA HUGHES: Well-behaved?

  • ROGER HARCOURT: Of course.

  • SUBJECT 2: Johnson's a bloody liar.

  • Corbyn is a left-winger.

  • I'm not left-wing.

  • SAM GYIMAH: Yeah.

  • Well, these MPs--

  • SUBJECT 2: And you're Jo Swindon or--

  • SAM GYIMAH: I was a minister.

  • I resigned because of Brexit.

  • If I wanted to look after myself,

  • I would've stayed as a minister in the seat I was in before.

  • SUBJECT 2: Yeah.

  • With all due respect, Lib Dems are hardly likely to get in,

  • are they?

  • SAM GYIMAH: Here, we are.

  • If you look at--

  • SUBJECT 2: No, no, no.

  • I'm talking about the whole nation to stop Brexit.

  • SAM GYIMAH: But we will be a brake on the extremes.

  • What he's saying about he can't vote

  • for either, that is common.

  • What is not common is to say he won't vote.

  • That is not common.

  • SUBJECT 3: We're undecided.

  • We are conservative.

  • We definitely-- I can honestly say--

  • are not wanting to go Labour.

  • We like the platforms of the Lib Dems.

  • But without the majority, we are fearful that,

  • if you don't win the majority-- of which I think the polls are

  • saying you won't--

  • that things could go awry then.

  • SAM GYIMAH: You can't have either Corbyn and his madness

  • in the rule of the state or Boris Johnson having

  • a majority to deliver whatever Brexit that he wants.

  • SUBJECT 3: I feel like I'm fatigued.

  • SAM GYIMAH: Yes.

  • SUBJECT 3: I feel tired.

  • SAM GYIMAH: But it's not going to end.

  • I mean, you feel tired.

  • But it's not going to end.

  • And giving in because we feel we're exhausted

  • is what he wants.

  • SUBJECT 3: Thank you very much for your time.

  • SAM GYIMAH: Take care.

  • SUBJECT 3: And good luck to you.

  • [UPBEAT MUSIC]

  • SAM GYIMAH: 53.

  • [RINGING DOORBELL]

  • It's flat 2.

  • SUBJECT 4 (OVER DOOR PHONE): Then why did you ring flat 1?

  • SAM GYIMAH: Oh--

  • SUBJECT 4 (OVER DOOR PHONE): Are you stupid?

  • [CHUCKLING]

  • [TECHNO MUSIC]

  • SUBJECT 5: I shan't be voting for you, but I wish you well.

  • [UPBEAT MUSIC]

  • LAURA HUGHES: What's it like, as a Lib Dem,

  • working for someone who was a Conservative minister?

  • JOSH PARK: I don't see it as anything different because I

  • was a Conservative previously.

  • I was a Cameronite Conservative, and then I

  • switched when the party decided it

  • was very sort of leave-based.

  • Unfortunately, I think Sam's reasons for moving

  • were so noble.

  • LAURA HUGHES: Do you sympathise with those

  • out there that we've spoken to who don't like Brexit

  • but they also really don't like Jeremy Corbyn?

  • ESTHER WINTER: Yeah.

  • I mean, I can see where they're coming.

  • And I know that people are very scared of Jeremy Corbyn.

  • But at the end of the day, it's pretty obvious

  • that this election is not about that.

  • It is basically about whether you want to leave the European

  • Union or not.

  • LAURA HUGHES: Are you nervous at all about the revoke Article 50

  • line?

  • Because we know, from polling, it hasn't played out very well.

  • And actually, people want to see a second referendum.

  • They don't necessarily want to just cancel Brexit altogether.

  • PAOLA KALISPERAS: Yes.

  • LAURA HUGHES: Have people been raising that

  • as a concern on the doorstep?

  • PAOLA KALISPERAS: To tell you the truth, yes, but not a lot.

  • SAM GYIMAH: The confusion is people are thinking, actually,

  • the Conservative Party is not my party.

  • Am I really a Lib Dem?

  • This sense that the political world is being realigned

  • and people are having to make different choices

  • is one that is kind of quite uncomfortable and quite

  • torturous.

  • LAURA HUGHES: Do you feel like a Lib Dem

  • in your heart having been a Conservative for so long?

  • SAM GYIMAH: Well, yes.

  • I mean, because the Conservative Party has changed.

  • Politics is changing.

  • There's a realignment going on.

  • And this election is happening in the midst of that.

  • And, in many ways, we're not immune to what is happening

  • in other Western democracies.

  • You know, we've seen it with Trump in the US.

  • And what I'm standing for is we can stop the madness here.

  • We can stop it.

  • We must stop it.

  • [TECHNO MUSIC]

[TECHNO MUSIC]

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