>> Sandra: MIKE TOBIN ON THE GROUND IN IOWA.

GROUND IN IOWA. >> Ed: MORE NOW WITH MATT

>> Ed: MORE NOW WITH MATT WHITAKER FORMER ATTORNEY ACTING

WHITAKER FORMER ATTORNEY ACTING GENERAL WHO HAILS FROM IOWA.

GENERAL WHO HAILS FROM IOWA. >> PROUD IOWAN.

>> PROUD IOWAN. >> Ed: STILL PROUD THIS MORNING

>> Ed: STILL PROUD THIS MORNING DAYS LATER?

DAYS LATER? >> WHAT YOU SAW IS ACTUALLY THE

>> WHAT YOU SAW IS ACTUALLY THE TALE OF TWO PARTIES.

TALE OF TWO PARTIES. THE DEMOCRATS HAD ALL SORTS OF

THE DEMOCRATS HAD ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS.

PROBLEMS. THE REPUBLICANS.

THE REPUBLICANS. I WAS THERE AND THE PRESIDENT

I WAS THERE AND THE PRESIDENT TRUMP’S REELECTION CAMPAIGN WAS

TRUMP’S REELECTION CAMPAIGN WAS A WELL ORGANIZED MACHINE AND

A WELL ORGANIZED MACHINE AND REPUBLICAN PARTY OF IOWA

REPUBLICAN PARTY OF IOWA REPORTED THE RESULTS FOR THE

REPORTED THE RESULTS FOR THE BIGGEST TURNOUT FOR A REELECT

BIGGEST TURNOUT FOR A REELECT EVER.

EVER. IT WAS REALLY A TALE OF TWO

IT WAS REALLY A TALE OF TWO PARTIES AND IT’S A SHAME THE

PARTIES AND IT’S A SHAME THE DEMOCRAT PARTY OF IOWA COULDN’T

DEMOCRAT PARTY OF IOWA COULDN’T DO SOMETHING THEY’VE BEEN DOING

DO SOMETHING THEY’VE BEEN DOING SINCE 1976 WHEN JIMMY CARTER

SINCE 1976 WHEN JIMMY CARTER WON THE CAUCUSES.

WON THE CAUCUSES. JUST GET THE VOTES TO THE

JUST GET THE VOTES TO THE HEADQUARTERS AND COUNT THEM.

HEADQUARTERS AND COUNT THEM. >> Ed: NO ARGUMENT THERE IS

>> Ed: NO ARGUMENT THERE IS CHAOS AND MORE CHAOS FOR IOWA

CHAOS AND MORE CHAOS FOR IOWA DEMOCRATS.

DEMOCRATS. THERE WAS CHAOS FOR REPUBLICANS

THERE WAS CHAOS FOR REPUBLICANS IN 2012 WHEN MITT ROMNEY WAS

IN 2012 WHEN MITT ROMNEY WAS INITIALLY DECLARED THE WINNER

INITIALLY DECLARED THE WINNER IN IOWA AND COUNTING HANG ON,

IN IOWA AND COUNTING HANG ON, IT WAS RICK SANTORUM.

IT WAS RICK SANTORUM. >> I THINK THE VOTE WAS CLOSE.

>> I THINK THE VOTE WAS CLOSE. 7 OR 14 VOTES DIFFERENCE.

7 OR 14 VOTES DIFFERENCE. I SEE THE SAME THING PLAYING

I SEE THE SAME THING PLAYING OUT HERE.

OUT HERE. WE KEEP HOLDING AT 62% AND

WE KEEP HOLDING AT 62% AND SOMEHOW BUTTIGIEG HAS THIS

SOMEHOW BUTTIGIEG HAS THIS ADVANTAGE IN THE DELEGATE

ADVANTAGE IN THE DELEGATE EQUIVALENT BUT BERNIE IS

EQUIVALENT BUT BERNIE IS LEADING THE POPULAR VOTE.

LEADING THE POPULAR VOTE. IT WILL BE INTERESTING WHEN THE

IT WILL BE INTERESTING WHEN THE DUST SETTLES TO SEE WHO

DUST SETTLES TO SEE WHO ACTUALLY WINS IOWA.

ACTUALLY WINS IOWA. >> Ed: YOU ARE A PROUD IOWAN.

>> Ed: YOU ARE A PROUD IOWAN. PROUD SUPPORTER OF THE

PROUD SUPPORTER OF THE PRESIDENT.

PRESIDENT. YOU TALKED ABOUT BEING ON THE

YOU TALKED ABOUT BEING ON THE GROUND.

GROUND. HE HAD AN INCREDIBLE TURNOUT

HE HAD AN INCREDIBLE TURNOUT FOR AN INCUMBENT.

FOR AN INCUMBENT. SETTING RECORDS IN ALL THE REST.

SETTING RECORDS IN ALL THE REST. BUT I WANTED TO HAVE YOU ON TO

BUT I WANTED TO HAVE YOU ON TO TALK ABOUT THE INVESTIGATIVE

TALK ABOUT THE INVESTIGATIVE ASPECT OF THIS.

ASPECT OF THIS. ONE THING TO FIGURE OUT THE

ONE THING TO FIGURE OUT THE RESULTS AND WE’RE WAITING FOR

RESULTS AND WE’RE WAITING FOR THAT.

THAT. YOU AS A FORMER ACTING ATTORNEY

YOU AS A FORMER ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES,

GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES, WHAT KIND OF INVESTIGATIONS MAY

WHAT KIND OF INVESTIGATIONS MAY THERE BE?

THERE BE? THERE HAVE BEEN SUPPORTERS OF

THERE HAVE BEEN SUPPORTERS OF BERNIE SANDERS SAYING WAIT A

BERNIE SANDERS SAYING WAIT A SECOND, WE THINK THERE IS SOME

SECOND, WE THINK THERE IS SOME FUNNY BUSINESS GOING ON HERE.

FUNNY BUSINESS GOING ON HERE. IT IS LEADING TO CONSPIRACY

IT IS LEADING TO CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

THEORIES. WILL THERE BE AN INVESTIGATION

WILL THERE BE AN INVESTIGATION TO FIND OUT IF THERE WAS

TO FIND OUT IF THERE WAS SOMETHING NEFARIOUS?

SOMETHING NEFARIOUS? >> IOWA CAUCUS IS A PARTY

>> IOWA CAUCUS IS A PARTY FUNCTION.

FUNCTION. THE SECRETARY OF STATE DOESN’T

THE SECRETARY OF STATE DOESN’T RUN THE ELECTION.

RUN THE ELECTION. BOTH PARTIES ARE IN CHARGE OF

BOTH PARTIES ARE IN CHARGE OF TABULATING THE RESULTS.

TABULATING THE RESULTS. THE KEY IS FULL TRANSPARENCY.

THE KEY IS FULL TRANSPARENCY. EACH OF THE CANDIDATES -- I WAS

EACH OF THE CANDIDATES -- I WAS DOWN IN CENTREVILLE ON MONDAY

DOWN IN CENTREVILLE ON MONDAY NIGHT AND I SAW A VERY STRONG

NIGHT AND I SAW A VERY STRONG BUTTIGIEG TURNOUT.

BUTTIGIEG TURNOUT. SO IT’S HARD TO TELL DEPENDING

SO IT’S HARD TO TELL DEPENDING WHERE YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS

WHERE YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS STATE WHO WAS THE MOST POPULAR

STATE WHO WAS THE MOST POPULAR CANDIDATE.

CANDIDATE. IN SOME OF THE COLLEGE TOWNS

IN SOME OF THE COLLEGE TOWNS BERNIE SANDERS WAS MORE POPULAR.

BERNIE SANDERS WAS MORE POPULAR. BUT THAT BEING SAID, I THINK

BUT THAT BEING SAID, I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY SINCE THEY HAVE

FUNDAMENTALLY SINCE THEY HAVE THE PAPER BACK-UPS IT IS GOING

THE PAPER BACK-UPS IT IS GOING TO BE -- THERE WILL BE FULL

TO BE -- THERE WILL BE FULL TRANSPARENCY AND WE’LL KNOW THE

TRANSPARENCY AND WE’LL KNOW THE EXACT TALLY ON ALL THREE.

EXACT TALLY ON ALL THREE. LISTEN, THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE

LISTEN, THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE IS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY OF IOWA

IS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY OF IOWA MADE THIS TOO COMPLICATED.

MADE THIS TOO COMPLICATED. IT IS NOT THAT HARD.

IT IS NOT THAT HARD. 1600 CAUCUS SITES.

1600 CAUCUS SITES. TO COLLECT THOSE, HAVE PEOPLE

TO COLLECT THOSE, HAVE PEOPLE CALL IN THE RESULTS AND

CALL IN THE RESULTS AND TABULATE THEM.

TABULATE THEM. SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED

SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE 1976.

SINCE 1976. >> Ed: WE HAD DAN HENNINGER ON

>> Ed: WE HAD DAN HENNINGER ON EARLIER AND TOLD SANDRA MAYBE

EARLIER AND TOLD SANDRA MAYBE THE WINNER OF ALL THIS MAY NOT

THE WINNER OF ALL THIS MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE THE FOLKS WHO WERE

ACTUALLY BE THE FOLKS WHO WERE CAUCUSING THAT DAY, IT MIGHT BE

CAUCUSING THAT DAY, IT MIGHT BE MICHAEL BLOOMBERG.

MICHAEL BLOOMBERG. WATCH.

WATCH. >> IT’S PRETTY CLEAR TO ME THAT

>> IT’S PRETTY CLEAR TO ME THAT MIKE BLOOMBERG WON IOWA.

MIKE BLOOMBERG WON IOWA. LOOK, HIS CANDIDACY IS BASED ON

LOOK, HIS CANDIDACY IS BASED ON THE IDEA THAT JOE BIDEN MIGHT

THE IDEA THAT JOE BIDEN MIGHT FADE.

FADE. JOE BIDEN JUST FADED IN IOWA.

JOE BIDEN JUST FADED IN IOWA. MIKE BLOOMBERG HAS THE MONEY,

MIKE BLOOMBERG HAS THE MONEY, THE GRAVITAS, HE IS WILLING TO

THE GRAVITAS, HE IS WILLING TO FIT WITH TRUMP.

FIT WITH TRUMP. I THINK HIS NUMBERS WILL RISE

I THINK HIS NUMBERS WILL RISE VERY SMARTLY OVER THE NEXT

VERY SMARTLY OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

MONTH. >> Ed: REACT TO THAT AND THE

>> Ed: REACT TO THAT AND THE IDEA WE’VE SPENT SO MUCH TIME

IDEA WE’VE SPENT SO MUCH TIME SAYING HOW WOULD JOE BIDEN DO

SAYING HOW WOULD JOE BIDEN DO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH PRESIDENT

HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP?

TRUMP? HE MAY COME IN FOURTH HERE OR

HE MAY COME IN FOURTH HERE OR WORSE IN IOWA AND HE IS HAVING

WORSE IN IOWA AND HE IS HAVING TROUBLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.

TROUBLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. TALK ABOUT THE STATE OF THE

TALK ABOUT THE STATE OF THE RACE.

RACE. >> REALLY, THE DEMISE OF THE

>> REALLY, THE DEMISE OF THE IOWA CAUCUSES ON THE DEMOCRAT

IOWA CAUCUSES ON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE WILL BE MIKE BLOOMBERG.

SIDE WILL BE MIKE BLOOMBERG. IF YOU CAN SHOW YOU CAN SPEND

IF YOU CAN SHOW YOU CAN SPEND ENOUGH MONEY, MILLIONS IF NOT A

ENOUGH MONEY, MILLIONS IF NOT A BILLION TO GET THE NOMINATION

BILLION TO GET THE NOMINATION THE IOWA CAUCUSES IN NEW

THE IOWA CAUCUSES IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, SOUTH CAROLINA AND

HAMPSHIRE, SOUTH CAROLINA AND NEVADA ARE IRRELEVANT.

NEVADA ARE IRRELEVANT. IT’S ALL ABOUT THE BIG STATES

IT’S ALL ABOUT THE BIG STATES SUPER TUESDAY AND BEYOND.

SUPER TUESDAY AND BEYOND. THE STATE OF THE RACE IS VERY

THE STATE OF THE RACE IS VERY INTERESTING.

INTERESTING. I KNOW THIS PRESIDENT IS NOT

I KNOW THIS PRESIDENT IS NOT AFRAID OF ANY OF THESE FOLKS IN

AFRAID OF ANY OF THESE FOLKS IN A HEAD-TO-HEAD MATCH-UP.

A HEAD-TO-HEAD MATCH-UP. JOE BIDEN HAS HAD CHALLENGES.

JOE BIDEN HAS HAD CHALLENGES. HE HAS BEEN IN IOWA SINCE THE

HE HAS BEEN IN IOWA SINCE THE 90s RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.

90s RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. TO GET FOURTH IN IOWA CAUCUSES

TO GET FOURTH IN IOWA CAUCUSES DEMONSTRATES THAT HE IS NOT THE

DEMONSTRATES THAT HE IS NOT THE PREFERENCE OF THE DEMOCRAT

PREFERENCE OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY AND WHERE THEY STAND

PARTY AND WHERE THEY STAND TODAY.

TODAY. WARREN AND SANDERS AND THE

WARREN AND SANDERS AND THE LIBERAL WING, IT’S THEIR TURN.

LIBERAL WING, IT’S THEIR TURN. THEIR BACKERS ARE ENTHUSIASTIC

THEIR BACKERS ARE ENTHUSIASTIC AND I EXPECT ONE OF THOSE TWO

AND I EXPECT ONE OF THOSE TWO WILL BE THE NOMINEE.

WILL BE THE NOMINEE. >> Ed: WHEN YOU SAY THE

>> Ed: WHEN YOU SAY THE DEMOCRAT IS NOT AFRAID, WHY THE

DEMOCRAT IS NOT AFRAID, WHY THE TWEETING ABOUT MIKE BLOOMBERG

TWEETING ABOUT MIKE BLOOMBERG AND THE MONEY HE IS SPENDING?

AND THE MONEY HE IS SPENDING? IS THE CAMPAIGN CONCERNED THAT

IS THE CAMPAIGN CONCERNED THAT IF BLOOMBERG DOES EMERGE AFTER

IF BLOOMBERG DOES EMERGE AFTER SUPER TUESDAY AS EITHER THE

SUPER TUESDAY AS EITHER THE FRONTRUNNER OR LEADING

FRONTRUNNER OR LEADING CONTENDER, HIGHER UP IN THE

CONTENDER, HIGHER UP IN THE POLLS THAN HE IS NOW, THAT HE

POLLS THAN HE IS NOW, THAT HE COULD BE FORMIDABLE WITH THAT

COULD BE FORMIDABLE WITH THAT WAR CHEST?

WAR CHEST? >> I JUST HEARD YESTERDAY OR

>> I JUST HEARD YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE MIKE BLOOMBERG

THE DAY BEFORE MIKE BLOOMBERG SAYING THE PRESIDENT IS

SAYING THE PRESIDENT IS FORMIDABLE AND HAS A LARGE PILE

FORMIDABLE AND HAS A LARGE PILE OF CASH.

OF CASH. BLOOMBERG WHEN HE IS NOT THE

BLOOMBERG WHEN HE IS NOT THE NOMINEE HE MIGHT AS WELL PUT

NOMINEE HE MIGHT AS WELL PUT HIS MILLIONS IF NOT BILLIONS OF

HIS MILLIONS IF NOT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN A FIREPLACE AND

DOLLARS IN A FIREPLACE AND BURNED IT.

BURNED IT. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT WHAT HE IS SELLING.

WHAT HE IS SELLING. MAY BE EFFECTIVE SOMETIMES AS

MAY BE EFFECTIVE SOMETIMES AS THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK FOLLOWING

THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK FOLLOWING RUDY GIULIANI’S POLICIES, I

RUDY GIULIANI’S POLICIES, I THINK ULTIMATELY HE IS HAVING

THINK ULTIMATELY HE IS HAVING TO STEP AWAY FROM ALL THE

TO STEP AWAY FROM ALL THE THINGS THAT MADE HIM SUCCESSFUL.

THINGS THAT MADE HIM SUCCESSFUL. MIKE BLOOMBERG, THE PRESIDENT I

MIKE BLOOMBERG, THE PRESIDENT I WAS WITH HIM LAST THURSDAY AND

WAS WITH HIM LAST THURSDAY AND I JUST THINK HE IS EXCITED

I JUST THINK HE IS EXCITED ABOUT A GENERAL ELECTION WHERE

ABOUT A GENERAL ELECTION WHERE HE CAN DEMONSTRATE WHAT HE HAS

HE CAN DEMONSTRATE WHAT HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE AMERICAN

ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND LAY OUT ANOTHER FOUR

PEOPLE AND LAY OUT ANOTHER FOUR YEARS OF WHAT HE CAN ACCOMPLISH.

YEARS OF WHAT HE CAN ACCOMPLISH. >> Ed: HE HAD THAT STAGE LAST

>> Ed: HE HAD THAT STAGE LAST NIGHT AND LAID OUT THE

NIGHT AND LAID OUT THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS. LAST POINT ON IOWA’S FIRST IN

LAST POINT ON IOWA’S FIRST IN THE NATION STATUS.

THE NATION STATUS. YOU MENTIONED THIS.

YOU MENTIONED THIS. ONE OF THE DEANS AMONG THE

ONE OF THE DEANS AMONG THE REPORTERS THERE ON THE GROUND

REPORTERS THERE ON THE GROUND IN IOWA HAD INTERESTING TWEETS.

IN IOWA HAD INTERESTING TWEETS. HAD A GOOD TIME.

HAD A GOOD TIME. AS I TOLD JOHN AND AMY FROM PBS

AS I TOLD JOHN AND AMY FROM PBS THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE LAST

THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE LAST CAUCUS WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.

CAUCUS WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. AFTER THE GOP FIASCO OF 2012

AFTER THE GOP FIASCO OF 2012 IOWA PROBABLY SHOULD NOT EVEN

IOWA PROBABLY SHOULD NOT EVEN TRY.

TRY. HERE YOU HAVE THE DEAN OF THE

HERE YOU HAVE THE DEAN OF THE MEDIA ESTABLISHMENT IN IOWA

MEDIA ESTABLISHMENT IN IOWA ADMITTING THIS MAY BE DONE.