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  • BACK TO YOU. >> Sandra: MIKE TOBIN ON THE

  • >> Sandra: MIKE TOBIN ON THE GROUND IN IOWA.

  • GROUND IN IOWA. >> Ed: MORE NOW WITH MATT

  • >> Ed: MORE NOW WITH MATT WHITAKER FORMER ATTORNEY ACTING

  • WHITAKER FORMER ATTORNEY ACTING GENERAL WHO HAILS FROM IOWA.

  • GENERAL WHO HAILS FROM IOWA. >> PROUD IOWAN.

  • >> PROUD IOWAN. >> Ed: STILL PROUD THIS MORNING

  • >> Ed: STILL PROUD THIS MORNING DAYS LATER?

  • DAYS LATER? >> WHAT YOU SAW IS ACTUALLY THE

  • >> WHAT YOU SAW IS ACTUALLY THE TALE OF TWO PARTIES.

  • TALE OF TWO PARTIES. THE DEMOCRATS HAD ALL SORTS OF

  • THE DEMOCRATS HAD ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS.

  • PROBLEMS. THE REPUBLICANS.

  • THE REPUBLICANS. I WAS THERE AND THE PRESIDENT

  • I WAS THERE AND THE PRESIDENT TRUMP’S REELECTION CAMPAIGN WAS

  • TRUMP’S REELECTION CAMPAIGN WAS A WELL ORGANIZED MACHINE AND

  • A WELL ORGANIZED MACHINE AND REPUBLICAN PARTY OF IOWA

  • REPUBLICAN PARTY OF IOWA REPORTED THE RESULTS FOR THE

  • REPORTED THE RESULTS FOR THE BIGGEST TURNOUT FOR A REELECT

  • BIGGEST TURNOUT FOR A REELECT EVER.

  • EVER. IT WAS REALLY A TALE OF TWO

  • IT WAS REALLY A TALE OF TWO PARTIES AND IT’S A SHAME THE

  • PARTIES AND IT’S A SHAME THE DEMOCRAT PARTY OF IOWA COULDN’T

  • DEMOCRAT PARTY OF IOWA COULDN’T DO SOMETHING THEYVE BEEN DOING

  • DO SOMETHING THEYVE BEEN DOING SINCE 1976 WHEN JIMMY CARTER

  • SINCE 1976 WHEN JIMMY CARTER WON THE CAUCUSES.

  • WON THE CAUCUSES. JUST GET THE VOTES TO THE

  • JUST GET THE VOTES TO THE HEADQUARTERS AND COUNT THEM.

  • HEADQUARTERS AND COUNT THEM. >> Ed: NO ARGUMENT THERE IS

  • >> Ed: NO ARGUMENT THERE IS CHAOS AND MORE CHAOS FOR IOWA

  • CHAOS AND MORE CHAOS FOR IOWA DEMOCRATS.

  • DEMOCRATS. THERE WAS CHAOS FOR REPUBLICANS

  • THERE WAS CHAOS FOR REPUBLICANS IN 2012 WHEN MITT ROMNEY WAS

  • IN 2012 WHEN MITT ROMNEY WAS INITIALLY DECLARED THE WINNER

  • INITIALLY DECLARED THE WINNER IN IOWA AND COUNTING HANG ON,

  • IN IOWA AND COUNTING HANG ON, IT WAS RICK SANTORUM.

  • IT WAS RICK SANTORUM. >> I THINK THE VOTE WAS CLOSE.

  • >> I THINK THE VOTE WAS CLOSE. 7 OR 14 VOTES DIFFERENCE.

  • 7 OR 14 VOTES DIFFERENCE. I SEE THE SAME THING PLAYING

  • I SEE THE SAME THING PLAYING OUT HERE.

  • OUT HERE. WE KEEP HOLDING AT 62% AND

  • WE KEEP HOLDING AT 62% AND SOMEHOW BUTTIGIEG HAS THIS

  • SOMEHOW BUTTIGIEG HAS THIS ADVANTAGE IN THE DELEGATE

  • ADVANTAGE IN THE DELEGATE EQUIVALENT BUT BERNIE IS

  • EQUIVALENT BUT BERNIE IS LEADING THE POPULAR VOTE.

  • LEADING THE POPULAR VOTE. IT WILL BE INTERESTING WHEN THE

  • IT WILL BE INTERESTING WHEN THE DUST SETTLES TO SEE WHO

  • DUST SETTLES TO SEE WHO ACTUALLY WINS IOWA.

  • ACTUALLY WINS IOWA. >> Ed: YOU ARE A PROUD IOWAN.

  • >> Ed: YOU ARE A PROUD IOWAN. PROUD SUPPORTER OF THE

  • PROUD SUPPORTER OF THE PRESIDENT.

  • PRESIDENT. YOU TALKED ABOUT BEING ON THE

  • YOU TALKED ABOUT BEING ON THE GROUND.

  • GROUND. HE HAD AN INCREDIBLE TURNOUT

  • HE HAD AN INCREDIBLE TURNOUT FOR AN INCUMBENT.

  • FOR AN INCUMBENT. SETTING RECORDS IN ALL THE REST.

  • SETTING RECORDS IN ALL THE REST. BUT I WANTED TO HAVE YOU ON TO

  • BUT I WANTED TO HAVE YOU ON TO TALK ABOUT THE INVESTIGATIVE

  • TALK ABOUT THE INVESTIGATIVE ASPECT OF THIS.

  • ASPECT OF THIS. ONE THING TO FIGURE OUT THE

  • ONE THING TO FIGURE OUT THE RESULTS AND WERE WAITING FOR

  • RESULTS AND WERE WAITING FOR THAT.

  • THAT. YOU AS A FORMER ACTING ATTORNEY

  • YOU AS A FORMER ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES,

  • GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES, WHAT KIND OF INVESTIGATIONS MAY

  • WHAT KIND OF INVESTIGATIONS MAY THERE BE?

  • THERE BE? THERE HAVE BEEN SUPPORTERS OF

  • THERE HAVE BEEN SUPPORTERS OF BERNIE SANDERS SAYING WAIT A

  • BERNIE SANDERS SAYING WAIT A SECOND, WE THINK THERE IS SOME

  • SECOND, WE THINK THERE IS SOME FUNNY BUSINESS GOING ON HERE.

  • FUNNY BUSINESS GOING ON HERE. IT IS LEADING TO CONSPIRACY

  • IT IS LEADING TO CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

  • THEORIES. WILL THERE BE AN INVESTIGATION

  • WILL THERE BE AN INVESTIGATION TO FIND OUT IF THERE WAS

  • TO FIND OUT IF THERE WAS SOMETHING NEFARIOUS?

  • SOMETHING NEFARIOUS? >> IOWA CAUCUS IS A PARTY

  • >> IOWA CAUCUS IS A PARTY FUNCTION.

  • FUNCTION. THE SECRETARY OF STATE DOESN’T

  • THE SECRETARY OF STATE DOESN’T RUN THE ELECTION.

  • RUN THE ELECTION. BOTH PARTIES ARE IN CHARGE OF

  • BOTH PARTIES ARE IN CHARGE OF TABULATING THE RESULTS.

  • TABULATING THE RESULTS. THE KEY IS FULL TRANSPARENCY.

  • THE KEY IS FULL TRANSPARENCY. EACH OF THE CANDIDATES -- I WAS

  • EACH OF THE CANDIDATES -- I WAS DOWN IN CENTREVILLE ON MONDAY

  • DOWN IN CENTREVILLE ON MONDAY NIGHT AND I SAW A VERY STRONG

  • NIGHT AND I SAW A VERY STRONG BUTTIGIEG TURNOUT.

  • BUTTIGIEG TURNOUT. SO IT’S HARD TO TELL DEPENDING

  • SO IT’S HARD TO TELL DEPENDING WHERE YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS

  • WHERE YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS STATE WHO WAS THE MOST POPULAR

  • STATE WHO WAS THE MOST POPULAR CANDIDATE.

  • CANDIDATE. IN SOME OF THE COLLEGE TOWNS

  • IN SOME OF THE COLLEGE TOWNS BERNIE SANDERS WAS MORE POPULAR.

  • BERNIE SANDERS WAS MORE POPULAR. BUT THAT BEING SAID, I THINK

  • BUT THAT BEING SAID, I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY SINCE THEY HAVE

  • FUNDAMENTALLY SINCE THEY HAVE THE PAPER BACK-UPS IT IS GOING

  • THE PAPER BACK-UPS IT IS GOING TO BE -- THERE WILL BE FULL

  • TO BE -- THERE WILL BE FULL TRANSPARENCY AND WELL KNOW THE

  • TRANSPARENCY AND WELL KNOW THE EXACT TALLY ON ALL THREE.

  • EXACT TALLY ON ALL THREE. LISTEN, THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE

  • LISTEN, THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE IS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY OF IOWA

  • IS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY OF IOWA MADE THIS TOO COMPLICATED.

  • MADE THIS TOO COMPLICATED. IT IS NOT THAT HARD.

  • IT IS NOT THAT HARD. 1600 CAUCUS SITES.

  • 1600 CAUCUS SITES. TO COLLECT THOSE, HAVE PEOPLE

  • TO COLLECT THOSE, HAVE PEOPLE CALL IN THE RESULTS AND

  • CALL IN THE RESULTS AND TABULATE THEM.

  • TABULATE THEM. SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED

  • SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE 1976.

  • SINCE 1976. >> Ed: WE HAD DAN HENNINGER ON

  • >> Ed: WE HAD DAN HENNINGER ON EARLIER AND TOLD SANDRA MAYBE

  • EARLIER AND TOLD SANDRA MAYBE THE WINNER OF ALL THIS MAY NOT

  • THE WINNER OF ALL THIS MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE THE FOLKS WHO WERE

  • ACTUALLY BE THE FOLKS WHO WERE CAUCUSING THAT DAY, IT MIGHT BE

  • CAUCUSING THAT DAY, IT MIGHT BE MICHAEL BLOOMBERG.

  • MICHAEL BLOOMBERG. WATCH.

  • WATCH. >> IT’S PRETTY CLEAR TO ME THAT

  • >> IT’S PRETTY CLEAR TO ME THAT MIKE BLOOMBERG WON IOWA.

  • MIKE BLOOMBERG WON IOWA. LOOK, HIS CANDIDACY IS BASED ON

  • LOOK, HIS CANDIDACY IS BASED ON THE IDEA THAT JOE BIDEN MIGHT

  • THE IDEA THAT JOE BIDEN MIGHT FADE.

  • FADE. JOE BIDEN JUST FADED IN IOWA.

  • JOE BIDEN JUST FADED IN IOWA. MIKE BLOOMBERG HAS THE MONEY,

  • MIKE BLOOMBERG HAS THE MONEY, THE GRAVITAS, HE IS WILLING TO

  • THE GRAVITAS, HE IS WILLING TO FIT WITH TRUMP.

  • FIT WITH TRUMP. I THINK HIS NUMBERS WILL RISE

  • I THINK HIS NUMBERS WILL RISE VERY SMARTLY OVER THE NEXT

  • VERY SMARTLY OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

  • MONTH. >> Ed: REACT TO THAT AND THE

  • >> Ed: REACT TO THAT AND THE IDEA WEVE SPENT SO MUCH TIME

  • IDEA WEVE SPENT SO MUCH TIME SAYING HOW WOULD JOE BIDEN DO

  • SAYING HOW WOULD JOE BIDEN DO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH PRESIDENT

  • HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP?

  • TRUMP? HE MAY COME IN FOURTH HERE OR

  • HE MAY COME IN FOURTH HERE OR WORSE IN IOWA AND HE IS HAVING

  • WORSE IN IOWA AND HE IS HAVING TROUBLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.

  • TROUBLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. TALK ABOUT THE STATE OF THE

  • TALK ABOUT THE STATE OF THE RACE.

  • RACE. >> REALLY, THE DEMISE OF THE

  • >> REALLY, THE DEMISE OF THE IOWA CAUCUSES ON THE DEMOCRAT

  • IOWA CAUCUSES ON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE WILL BE MIKE BLOOMBERG.

  • SIDE WILL BE MIKE BLOOMBERG. IF YOU CAN SHOW YOU CAN SPEND

  • IF YOU CAN SHOW YOU CAN SPEND ENOUGH MONEY, MILLIONS IF NOT A

  • ENOUGH MONEY, MILLIONS IF NOT A BILLION TO GET THE NOMINATION

  • BILLION TO GET THE NOMINATION THE IOWA CAUCUSES IN NEW

  • THE IOWA CAUCUSES IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, SOUTH CAROLINA AND

  • HAMPSHIRE, SOUTH CAROLINA AND NEVADA ARE IRRELEVANT.

  • NEVADA ARE IRRELEVANT. IT’S ALL ABOUT THE BIG STATES

  • IT’S ALL ABOUT THE BIG STATES SUPER TUESDAY AND BEYOND.

  • SUPER TUESDAY AND BEYOND. THE STATE OF THE RACE IS VERY

  • THE STATE OF THE RACE IS VERY INTERESTING.

  • INTERESTING. I KNOW THIS PRESIDENT IS NOT

  • I KNOW THIS PRESIDENT IS NOT AFRAID OF ANY OF THESE FOLKS IN

  • AFRAID OF ANY OF THESE FOLKS IN A HEAD-TO-HEAD MATCH-UP.

  • A HEAD-TO-HEAD MATCH-UP. JOE BIDEN HAS HAD CHALLENGES.

  • JOE BIDEN HAS HAD CHALLENGES. HE HAS BEEN IN IOWA SINCE THE

  • HE HAS BEEN IN IOWA SINCE THE 90s RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.

  • 90s RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. TO GET FOURTH IN IOWA CAUCUSES

  • TO GET FOURTH IN IOWA CAUCUSES DEMONSTRATES THAT HE IS NOT THE

  • DEMONSTRATES THAT HE IS NOT THE PREFERENCE OF THE DEMOCRAT

  • PREFERENCE OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY AND WHERE THEY STAND

  • PARTY AND WHERE THEY STAND TODAY.

  • TODAY. WARREN AND SANDERS AND THE

  • WARREN AND SANDERS AND THE LIBERAL WING, IT’S THEIR TURN.

  • LIBERAL WING, IT’S THEIR TURN. THEIR BACKERS ARE ENTHUSIASTIC

  • THEIR BACKERS ARE ENTHUSIASTIC AND I EXPECT ONE OF THOSE TWO

  • AND I EXPECT ONE OF THOSE TWO WILL BE THE NOMINEE.

  • WILL BE THE NOMINEE. >> Ed: WHEN YOU SAY THE

  • >> Ed: WHEN YOU SAY THE DEMOCRAT IS NOT AFRAID, WHY THE

  • DEMOCRAT IS NOT AFRAID, WHY THE TWEETING ABOUT MIKE BLOOMBERG

  • TWEETING ABOUT MIKE BLOOMBERG AND THE MONEY HE IS SPENDING?

  • AND THE MONEY HE IS SPENDING? IS THE CAMPAIGN CONCERNED THAT

  • IS THE CAMPAIGN CONCERNED THAT IF BLOOMBERG DOES EMERGE AFTER

  • IF BLOOMBERG DOES EMERGE AFTER SUPER TUESDAY AS EITHER THE

  • SUPER TUESDAY AS EITHER THE FRONTRUNNER OR LEADING

  • FRONTRUNNER OR LEADING CONTENDER, HIGHER UP IN THE

  • CONTENDER, HIGHER UP IN THE POLLS THAN HE IS NOW, THAT HE

  • POLLS THAN HE IS NOW, THAT HE COULD BE FORMIDABLE WITH THAT

  • COULD BE FORMIDABLE WITH THAT WAR CHEST?

  • WAR CHEST? >> I JUST HEARD YESTERDAY OR

  • >> I JUST HEARD YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE MIKE BLOOMBERG

  • THE DAY BEFORE MIKE BLOOMBERG SAYING THE PRESIDENT IS

  • SAYING THE PRESIDENT IS FORMIDABLE AND HAS A LARGE PILE

  • FORMIDABLE AND HAS A LARGE PILE OF CASH.

  • OF CASH. BLOOMBERG WHEN HE IS NOT THE

  • BLOOMBERG WHEN HE IS NOT THE NOMINEE HE MIGHT AS WELL PUT

  • NOMINEE HE MIGHT AS WELL PUT HIS MILLIONS IF NOT BILLIONS OF

  • HIS MILLIONS IF NOT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN A FIREPLACE AND

  • DOLLARS IN A FIREPLACE AND BURNED IT.

  • BURNED IT. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT

  • THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT WHAT HE IS SELLING.

  • WHAT HE IS SELLING. MAY BE EFFECTIVE SOMETIMES AS

  • MAY BE EFFECTIVE SOMETIMES AS THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK FOLLOWING

  • THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK FOLLOWING RUDY GIULIANI’S POLICIES, I

  • RUDY GIULIANI’S POLICIES, I THINK ULTIMATELY HE IS HAVING

  • THINK ULTIMATELY HE IS HAVING TO STEP AWAY FROM ALL THE

  • TO STEP AWAY FROM ALL THE THINGS THAT MADE HIM SUCCESSFUL.

  • THINGS THAT MADE HIM SUCCESSFUL. MIKE BLOOMBERG, THE PRESIDENT I

  • MIKE BLOOMBERG, THE PRESIDENT I WAS WITH HIM LAST THURSDAY AND

  • WAS WITH HIM LAST THURSDAY AND I JUST THINK HE IS EXCITED

  • I JUST THINK HE IS EXCITED ABOUT A GENERAL ELECTION WHERE

  • ABOUT A GENERAL ELECTION WHERE HE CAN DEMONSTRATE WHAT HE HAS

  • HE CAN DEMONSTRATE WHAT HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE AMERICAN

  • ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND LAY OUT ANOTHER FOUR

  • PEOPLE AND LAY OUT ANOTHER FOUR YEARS OF WHAT HE CAN ACCOMPLISH.

  • YEARS OF WHAT HE CAN ACCOMPLISH. >> Ed: HE HAD THAT STAGE LAST

  • >> Ed: HE HAD THAT STAGE LAST NIGHT AND LAID OUT THE

  • NIGHT AND LAID OUT THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

  • ACCOMPLISHMENTS. LAST POINT ON IOWA’S FIRST IN

  • LAST POINT ON IOWA’S FIRST IN THE NATION STATUS.

  • THE NATION STATUS. YOU MENTIONED THIS.

  • YOU MENTIONED THIS. ONE OF THE DEANS AMONG THE

  • ONE OF THE DEANS AMONG THE REPORTERS THERE ON THE GROUND

  • REPORTERS THERE ON THE GROUND IN IOWA HAD INTERESTING TWEETS.

  • IN IOWA HAD INTERESTING TWEETS. HAD A GOOD TIME.

  • HAD A GOOD TIME. AS I TOLD JOHN AND AMY FROM PBS

  • AS I TOLD JOHN AND AMY FROM PBS THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE LAST

  • THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE LAST CAUCUS WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.

  • CAUCUS WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. AFTER THE GOP FIASCO OF 2012

  • AFTER THE GOP FIASCO OF 2012 IOWA PROBABLY SHOULD NOT EVEN

  • IOWA PROBABLY SHOULD NOT EVEN TRY.

  • TRY. HERE YOU HAVE THE DEAN OF THE

  • HERE YOU HAVE THE DEAN OF THE MEDIA ESTABLISHMENT IN IOWA

  • MEDIA ESTABLISHMENT IN IOWA ADMITTING THIS MAY BE DONE.

  • ADMITTING THIS MAY BE DONE. WHAT SAY YOU AS A PROUD IOWAN?

  • WHAT SAY YOU AS A PROUD IOWAN? >> I WILL TAKE THE CONTRARY TO

  • >> I WILL TAKE THE CONTRARY TO THAT.

  • THAT. I THINK THE IOWA CAUCUSES WILL

  • I THINK THE IOWA CAUCUSES WILL BE BACK IN 2024.

  • BE BACK IN 2024. THERE IS NO BETTER WAY TO START

  • THERE IS NO BETTER WAY TO START THIS PROCESS.

  • THIS PROCESS. IOWANS ARE VERY ENGAGED AS YOU

  • IOWANS ARE VERY ENGAGED AS YOU KNOW IN KICKING THE TIRES ON

  • KNOW IN KICKING THE TIRES ON ALL THE CANDIDATES AND FINDING

  • ALL THE CANDIDATES AND FINDING OUT WHO IS PRESIDENTIAL TIMBER

  • OUT WHO IS PRESIDENTIAL TIMBER AND I THINK THERE IS -- ONCE

  • AND I THINK THERE IS -- ONCE THE PARTIES GO BACK TO THE

  • THE PARTIES GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND FIGURE THIS

  • DRAWING BOARD AND FIGURE THIS OUT AND THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IN

  • OUT AND THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IN IOWA FIGURES OUT HOW TO COUNT

  • IOWA FIGURES OUT HOW TO COUNT VOTES I REALLY THINK AT THE END

  • VOTES I REALLY THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY THE IOWA CAUCUSES

  • OF THE DAY THE IOWA CAUCUSES WILL BE BACK IN 2024 AND BE

  • WILL BE BACK IN 2024 AND BE SUCCESSFUL.

  • SUCCESSFUL. >> Ed: ALL RIGHT.

  • >> Ed: ALL RIGHT. OPTIMISTIC VIEW OF WHAT