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>> GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING. FROM WASHINGTON.
FROM WASHINGTON.
FROM WASHINGTON. ON THIS WEDNESDAY, THE MORNING
ON THIS WEDNESDAY, THE MORNING
ON THIS WEDNESDAY, THE MORNING AFTER A NIGHT OF MOVEMENT AND
AFTER A NIGHT OF MOVEMENT AND
AFTER A NIGHT OF MOVEMENT AND MOMENTUM SHIFT IN THE DEMOCRATS'
MOMENTUM SHIFT IN THE DEMOCRATS'
MOMENTUM SHIFT IN THE DEMOCRATS' CAMPAIGN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE,
CAMPAIGN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE,
CAMPAIGN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE, THE STORY REMAINS VERY DYNAMIC
THE STORY REMAINS VERY DYNAMIC
THE STORY REMAINS VERY DYNAMIC AS WE JOIN YOU THIS HOUR, BUT
AS WE JOIN YOU THIS HOUR, BUT
AS WE JOIN YOU THIS HOUR, BUT THERE IS ONE CLEAR CHANGE.
THERE IS ONE CLEAR CHANGE.
THERE IS ONE CLEAR CHANGE. IT'S ALL ABOUT BIDEN VERSUS
IT'S ALL ABOUT BIDEN VERSUS
IT'S ALL ABOUT BIDEN VERSUS SANDERS, NO ONE ELSE IS EVEN
SANDERS, NO ONE ELSE IS EVEN
SANDERS, NO ONE ELSE IS EVEN CLOSE.
CLOSE.
CLOSE. BUT I'M CLOSE TO TWO FANTASTIC
BUT I'M CLOSE TO TWO FANTASTIC
BUT I'M CLOSE TO TWO FANTASTIC GUESTS.
GUESTS.
GUESTS. THIS IS THE HOUR I'VE REALLY
THIS IS THE HOUR I'VE REALLY
THIS IS THE HOUR I'VE REALLY BEEN ALMOST LOOKING FORWARD TO
BEEN ALMOST LOOKING FORWARD TO
BEEN ALMOST LOOKING FORWARD TO MOST.
MOST.
MOST. WE HAVE BEEN GETTING YOUR
WE HAVE BEEN GETTING YOUR
WE HAVE BEEN GETTING YOUR QUESTIONS ALL MORNING TODAY, AND
QUESTIONS ALL MORNING TODAY, AND
QUESTIONS ALL MORNING TODAY, AND YESTERDAY, AND FOR THE NEXT --
YESTERDAY, AND FOR THE NEXT --
YESTERDAY, AND FOR THE NEXT -- WELL, THE NEXT FORESEEABLE
WELL, THE NEXT FORESEEABLE
WELL, THE NEXT FORESEEABLE FUTURE UNTIL WE RUN OUT OF
FUTURE UNTIL WE RUN OUT OF
FUTURE UNTIL WE RUN OUT OF QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS. WE HAVE ANSWERS FOR YOU.
WE HAVE ANSWERS FOR YOU.
WE HAVE ANSWERS FOR YOU. OUR SENIOR WASHINGTON EDITOR
OUR SENIOR WASHINGTON EDITOR
OUR SENIOR WASHINGTON EDITOR LYNDSAY DUNCOMBE, KEITH BOAG,
LYNDSAY DUNCOMBE, KEITH BOAG,
LYNDSAY DUNCOMBE, KEITH BOAG, LONG-TIME MEMBER OF THE CBC NEWS
LONG-TIME MEMBER OF THE CBC NEWS
LONG-TIME MEMBER OF THE CBC NEWS TEAM, MOST RECENTLY HERE IN
TEAM, MOST RECENTLY HERE IN
TEAM, MOST RECENTLY HERE IN WASHINGTON, LONG-TIME FRIEND OF
WASHINGTON, LONG-TIME FRIEND OF
WASHINGTON, LONG-TIME FRIEND OF OUR PROGRAM.
OUR PROGRAM.
OUR PROGRAM. I'VE -- YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THE
I'VE -- YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THE
I'VE -- YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THE PRIMARY PRIMER AND SO MANY
PRIMARY PRIMER AND SO MANY
PRIMARY PRIMER AND SO MANY CONVERSATIONS OVER THE YEARS.
CONVERSATIONS OVER THE YEARS.
CONVERSATIONS OVER THE YEARS. I'M JUST DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU
I'M JUST DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU
I'M JUST DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU BOTH AND TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
BOTH AND TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
BOTH AND TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM YOU.
FROM YOU.
FROM YOU. SO WELCOME TO YOU ON FACEBOOK,
SO WELCOME TO YOU ON FACEBOOK,
SO WELCOME TO YOU ON FACEBOOK, YOUTUBE, AND TWITTER, WE'RE HERE
YOUTUBE, AND TWITTER, WE'RE HERE
YOUTUBE, AND TWITTER, WE'RE HERE TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS, SO YOU
TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS, SO YOU
TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS, SO YOU JUST POST THEM TO THE COMMENTS
JUST POST THEM TO THE COMMENTS
JUST POST THEM TO THE COMMENTS SECTION, WE'RE GOING ANSWER AS
SECTION, WE'RE GOING ANSWER AS
SECTION, WE'RE GOING ANSWER AS MANY AS POSSIBLE IN THE NEXT
MANY AS POSSIBLE IN THE NEXT
MANY AS POSSIBLE IN THE NEXT HALF-HOUR, SO FEW READY, GO.
HALF-HOUR, SO FEW READY, GO.
HALF-HOUR, SO FEW READY, GO. OKAY, I'M WATCHING, I'M GOING TO
OKAY, I'M WATCHING, I'M GOING TO
OKAY, I'M WATCHING, I'M GOING TO KEEP TRACK OF QUESTIONS COMING
KEEP TRACK OF QUESTIONS COMING
KEEP TRACK OF QUESTIONS COMING IF.
IF.
IF. WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME. I'M FEELING A LITTLE BADLY DAWZ
I'M FEELING A LITTLE BADLY DAWZ
I'M FEELING A LITTLE BADLY DAWZ DORI IS WANTING TO KNOW WHO ARE
DORI IS WANTING TO KNOW WHO ARE
DORI IS WANTING TO KNOW WHO ARE THE DELEGATES THEY'RE REFERRING
THE DELEGATES THEY'RE REFERRING
THE DELEGATES THEY'RE REFERRING TO, I THINK WE'RE LATE IN THE
TO, I THINK WE'RE LATE IN THE
TO, I THINK WE'RE LATE IN THE GAME TO BE REFERRING TO THE
GAME TO BE REFERRING TO THE
GAME TO BE REFERRING TO THE DELEGATE.
DELEGATE.
DELEGATE. >> Reporter: YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR
>> Reporter: YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR
>> Reporter: YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR WATCHING FROM THE GREAT STATE OF
WATCHING FROM THE GREAT STATE OF
WATCHING FROM THE GREAT STATE OF MISSISSIPPI, THOSE ARE THE
MISSISSIPPI, THOSE ARE THE
MISSISSIPPI, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT AT THAT STATE SENDS
PEOPLE THAT AT THAT STATE SENDS
PEOPLE THAT AT THAT STATE SENDS TO THE CONVENTION.
TO THE CONVENTION.
TO THE CONVENTION. THERE'S THE FOLKS THAT ARE
THERE'S THE FOLKS THAT ARE
THERE'S THE FOLKS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING THE
RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING THE
RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING THE RESULTS OF THE VOTE AND PUTTING
RESULTS OF THE VOTE AND PUTTING
RESULTS OF THE VOTE AND PUTTING THEM FORWARD TO ACTUALLY REACH
THEM FORWARD TO ACTUALLY REACH
THEM FORWARD TO ACTUALLY REACH THOSE NUMBERS AND CHOOSE THE
THOSE NUMBERS AND CHOOSE THE
THOSE NUMBERS AND CHOOSE THE NOMINEE.
NOMINEE.
NOMINEE. >> Heather: OKAY.
>> Heather: OKAY.
>> Heather: OKAY. AND EVENTUALLY WE'LL GO TO
AND EVENTUALLY WE'LL GO TO
AND EVENTUALLY WE'LL GO TO ELECTORAL COLLEGE WHEN IT COMES
ELECTORAL COLLEGE WHEN IT COMES
ELECTORAL COLLEGE WHEN IT COMES TO THE GENERAL ELECTION, SAME
TO THE GENERAL ELECTION, SAME
TO THE GENERAL ELECTION, SAME KIND OF THING.
KIND OF THING.
KIND OF THING. THEY VOTE AND EACH STATE IS
THEY VOTE AND EACH STATE IS
THEY VOTE AND EACH STATE IS ASSIGNED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF
ASSIGNED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF
ASSIGNED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DELEGATES.
DELEGATES.
DELEGATES. THAT'S A VERY COMPLICATED
THAT'S A VERY COMPLICATED
THAT'S A VERY COMPLICATED CALCULATION.
CALCULATION.
CALCULATION. I DON'T THINK WE WENT TO THE GET
I DON'T THINK WE WENT TO THE GET
I DON'T THINK WE WENT TO THE GET INTO THAT.
INTO THAT.
INTO THAT. BASED ON THAT, THE OVERALL
BASED ON THAT, THE OVERALL
BASED ON THAT, THE OVERALL NUMBERS COME IN, AND IT IS 1,991
NUMBERS COME IN, AND IT IS 1,991
NUMBERS COME IN, AND IT IS 1,991 THAT THE CANDIDATE NEEDS TO HIT
THAT THE CANDIDATE NEEDS TO HIT
THAT THE CANDIDATE NEEDS TO HIT A MAJORITY, ANYTHING LESS THAN
A MAJORITY, ANYTHING LESS THAN
A MAJORITY, ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT MEANS A POSSIBLY CONTEST
THAT MEANS A POSSIBLY CONTEST
THAT MEANS A POSSIBLY CONTEST CONSEQUENCE.
CONSEQUENCE.
CONSEQUENCE. DAVE SAUNDERS WONDERING HOW THIS
DAVE SAUNDERS WONDERING HOW THIS
DAVE SAUNDERS WONDERING HOW THIS WHOLE BUSINESS WILL WORK.
WHOLE BUSINESS WILL WORK.
WHOLE BUSINESS WILL WORK. KEITH, IS IT WINNER TALK ALL
KEITH, IS IT WINNER TALK ALL
KEITH, IS IT WINNER TALK ALL UNTIL SOME STATES?
UNTIL SOME STATES?
UNTIL SOME STATES? >> Reporter: IT'S MOSTLY
>> Reporter: IT'S MOSTLY
>> Reporter: IT'S MOSTLY PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION, AND
PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION, AND
PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION, AND THE IMPACT ON THAT ON THE RACE
THE IMPACT ON THAT ON THE RACE
THE IMPACT ON THAT ON THE RACE FROM NOW ON IF YOU ARE PRUBLE
FROM NOW ON IF YOU ARE PRUBLE
FROM NOW ON IF YOU ARE PRUBLE THAT WINNER TAKE ALL STATE, YOU
THAT WINNER TAKE ALL STATE, YOU
THAT WINNER TAKE ALL STATE, YOU COULD THINK ABOUT COASTING.
COULD THINK ABOUT COASTING.
COULD THINK ABOUT COASTING. THERE IS NO COASTING IN THIS
THERE IS NO COASTING IN THIS
THERE IS NO COASTING IN THIS RACE.
RACE.
RACE. IT'S SPLIT IN EVERY STATE GOING
IT'S SPLIT IN EVERY STATE GOING
IT'S SPLIT IN EVERY STATE GOING FROM NOW UNTIL JUNE.
FROM NOW UNTIL JUNE.
FROM NOW UNTIL JUNE. >> Heather: CAN I JUST STOP YOU
>> Heather: CAN I JUST STOP YOU
>> Heather: CAN I JUST STOP YOU FOR ONE SECOND?
FOR ONE SECOND?
FOR ONE SECOND? WE'RE IN THE HEARING YOU.
WE'RE IN THE HEARING YOU.
WE'RE IN THE HEARING YOU. .
.
. WE PICK UP EVERYBODY'S AUDIO
WE PICK UP EVERYBODY'S AUDIO
WE PICK UP EVERYBODY'S AUDIO THERE, EVERYBODY CAN HEAR MAYBE
THERE, EVERYBODY CAN HEAR MAYBE
THERE, EVERYBODY CAN HEAR MAYBE THROUGH MINE.
THROUGH MINE.
THROUGH MINE. CAN I JUST HAVE THAT WIRE.
CAN I JUST HAVE THAT WIRE.
CAN I JUST HAVE THAT WIRE. WELL, ISN'T THIS A LITTLE
WELL, ISN'T THIS A LITTLE
WELL, ISN'T THIS A LITTLE KEYSTONE COPS.
KEYSTONE COPS.
KEYSTONE COPS. OKAY.
OKAY.
OKAY. THERE, I CAN HEAR AGAIN.
THERE, I CAN HEAR AGAIN.
THERE, I CAN HEAR AGAIN. AND I THINK WE'RE HEARING YOU AS
AND I THINK WE'RE HEARING YOU AS
AND I THINK WE'RE HEARING YOU AS WELL.
WELL.
WELL. SO -- AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING
SO -- AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING
SO -- AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH LYNDSAY ABOUT THE 15%
WITH LYNDSAY ABOUT THE 15%
WITH LYNDSAY ABOUT THE 15% THRESHOLD IN THE -- A CANDIDATE
THRESHOLD IN THE -- A CANDIDATE
THRESHOLD IN THE -- A CANDIDATE HAS TO GET 15% OF THE POPULAR
HAS TO GET 15% OF THE POPULAR
HAS TO GET 15% OF THE POPULAR VOTE IN ORDER TO EVEN BE
VOTE IN ORDER TO EVEN BE
VOTE IN ORDER TO EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR THE DELEGATE
CONSIDERED FOR THE DELEGATE
CONSIDERED FOR THE DELEGATE ASSIGNMENT WHICH, FOR THE
ASSIGNMENT WHICH, FOR THE
ASSIGNMENT WHICH, FOR THE DEMOCRATS, IS BASED ON A
DEMOCRATS, IS BASED ON A
DEMOCRATS, IS BASED ON A PROPORTIONATE BASIS, AND OFF IT
PROPORTIONATE BASIS, AND OFF IT
PROPORTIONATE BASIS, AND OFF IT GOES.
GOES.
GOES. WE HAVE A QUESTION ON FACEBOOK,
WE HAVE A QUESTION ON FACEBOOK,
WE HAVE A QUESTION ON FACEBOOK, WHY DO ONLY SOME STATES VOTE?
WHY DO ONLY SOME STATES VOTE?
WHY DO ONLY SOME STATES VOTE? THAT'S JUST IN SUPER TUESDAY.
THAT'S JUST IN SUPER TUESDAY.
THAT'S JUST IN SUPER TUESDAY. >> Reporter: THAT'S REALLY
>> Reporter: THAT'S REALLY
>> Reporter: THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING WHERE YOU SEE WHY
INTERESTING WHERE YOU SEE WHY
INTERESTING WHERE YOU SEE WHY THE SUPER TUESDAY IS EXTRA SUPER
THE SUPER TUESDAY IS EXTRA SUPER
THE SUPER TUESDAY IS EXTRA SUPER BECAUSE CALIFORNIA WAS ADDED TO
BECAUSE CALIFORNIA WAS ADDED TO
BECAUSE CALIFORNIA WAS ADDED TO THIS EARLY STAGE IN THE VOTING
THIS EARLY STAGE IN THE VOTING
THIS EARLY STAGE IN THE VOTING PROCESS WITH ALL OF THOSE MORE
PROCESS WITH ALL OF THOSE MORE
PROCESS WITH ALL OF THOSE MORE THAN 400 DELEGATES, SO
THAN 400 DELEGATES, SO
THAN 400 DELEGATES, SO EVENTUALLY YOU'LL GET DOWN TO
EVENTUALLY YOU'LL GET DOWN TO
EVENTUALLY YOU'LL GET DOWN TO ALL OF THE STATES HAVING THEIR
ALL OF THE STATES HAVING THEIR
ALL OF THE STATES HAVING THEIR SAY; HOWEVER, THOSE THAT GO
SAY; HOWEVER, THOSE THAT GO
SAY; HOWEVER, THOSE THAT GO EARLIER ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
EARLIER ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
EARLIER ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BUILD-UP OF DELEGATES AND THE
BUILD-UP OF DELEGATES AND THE
BUILD-UP OF DELEGATES AND THE MOMENTUM AND AS THE STORY GOES
MOMENTUM AND AS THE STORY GOES
MOMENTUM AND AS THE STORY GOES FORWARD.
FORWARD.
FORWARD. >> Reporter: AND WHAT'S REALLY
>> Reporter: AND WHAT'S REALLY
>> Reporter: AND WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IS NOT JUST
INTERESTING IS NOT JUST
INTERESTING IS NOT JUST CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA IS THE
CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA IS THE
CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA IS THE BIG ONE, BUT A NUMBER OF STATES,
BIG ONE, BUT A NUMBER OF STATES,
BIG ONE, BUT A NUMBER OF STATES, MOVED THEMSELVES UP IN THE
MOVED THEMSELVES UP IN THE
MOVED THEMSELVES UP IN THE CALENDAR IN ORDER TO EXERT A
CALENDAR IN ORDER TO EXERT A
CALENDAR IN ORDER TO EXERT A GREATER INFLUENCE ON THE EARLY
GREATER INFLUENCE ON THE EARLY
GREATER INFLUENCE ON THE EARLY GOING.
GOING.
GOING. >> BECAUSE THAT'S REFLECTS THE
>> BECAUSE THAT'S REFLECTS THE
>> BECAUSE THAT'S REFLECTS THE GREATER DIVERSITY OF THE
GREATER DIVERSITY OF THE
GREATER DIVERSITY OF THE COUNTRY, A LOT OF CRITICISM
COUNTRY, A LOT OF CRITICISM
COUNTRY, A LOT OF CRITICISM ABOUT STARTING WITH IOWA AND
ABOUT STARTING WITH IOWA AND
ABOUT STARTING WITH IOWA AND KNEW NEW HAMPSHIRE WHICH
KNEW NEW HAMPSHIRE WHICH
KNEW NEW HAMPSHIRE WHICH LARGELY ARE WHITE IN TERMS OF
LARGELY ARE WHITE IN TERMS OF
LARGELY ARE WHITE IN TERMS OF DEMOGRAPHICS, RURAL, THAT NOT
DEMOGRAPHICS, RURAL, THAT NOT
DEMOGRAPHICS, RURAL, THAT NOT BEING REPRESENTATIVE OF AMERICA
BEING REPRESENTATIVE OF AMERICA
BEING REPRESENTATIVE OF AMERICA AT LARGE.
AT LARGE.
AT LARGE. BY MOVING STATES UP LIKE
BY MOVING STATES UP LIKE
BY MOVING STATES UP LIKE CALIFORNIA, YOU'RE GETTING A
CALIFORNIA, YOU'RE GETTING A
CALIFORNIA, YOU'RE GETTING A LARGER SENSE OF HOW THE WHOLE
LARGER SENSE OF HOW THE WHOLE
LARGER SENSE OF HOW THE WHOLE COUNTRY FEELS.
COUNTRY FEELS.
COUNTRY FEELS. >> Heather: CAN YOU FLIP YOUR
>> Heather: CAN YOU FLIP YOUR
>> Heather: CAN YOU FLIP YOUR MIC AROUND FOR JUST A SECOND?
MIC AROUND FOR JUST A SECOND?
MIC AROUND FOR JUST A SECOND? I WANT TO TALK TO KEITH TO MAKE
I WANT TO TALK TO KEITH TO MAKE
I WANT TO TALK TO KEITH TO MAKE SURE WE HEAR YOU VERY CLEARLY.
SURE WE HEAR YOU VERY CLEARLY.
SURE WE HEAR YOU VERY CLEARLY. AS WE LOOK TO THESE NEXT STATES,
AS WE LOOK TO THESE NEXT STATES,
AS WE LOOK TO THESE NEXT STATES, ONE WEEK FROM NOW, MICHIGAN, TWO
ONE WEEK FROM NOW, MICHIGAN, TWO
ONE WEEK FROM NOW, MICHIGAN, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, FLORIDA COMING
WEEKS FROM NOW, FLORIDA COMING
WEEKS FROM NOW, FLORIDA COMING UP, AND THESE ARE KEY STATES TO
UP, AND THESE ARE KEY STATES TO
UP, AND THESE ARE KEY STATES TO COME, THESE ARE NOT AS BIG AS
COME, THESE ARE NOT AS BIG AS
COME, THESE ARE NOT AS BIG AS SUPER TUESDAY, BUT THEY'RE VERY
SUPER TUESDAY, BUT THEY'RE VERY
SUPER TUESDAY, BUT THEY'RE VERY SIGNIFICANT, BUT THE MATH FOR
SIGNIFICANT, BUT THE MATH FOR
SIGNIFICANT, BUT THE MATH FOR BERNIE SANDERS IN THESE STATES
BERNIE SANDERS IN THESE STATES
BERNIE SANDERS IN THESE STATES DOESN'T LOOK SO GOOD.
DOESN'T LOOK SO GOOD.
DOESN'T LOOK SO GOOD. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN HIM GO
WE'VE ALREADY SEEN HIM GO
WE'VE ALREADY SEEN HIM GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS,
THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS,
THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS, ALBEIT IN A DIFFERENT ORDER OF
ALBEIT IN A DIFFERENT ORDER OF
ALBEIT IN A DIFFERENT ORDER OF STATES, AS WE DISCUSSED, AGAINST
STATES, AS WE DISCUSSED, AGAINST
STATES, AS WE DISCUSSED, AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON.
HILLARY CLINTON.
HILLARY CLINTON. SO THERE IS A RECORD AGAIN
SO THERE IS A RECORD AGAIN
SO THERE IS A RECORD AGAIN AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON FOR TO
AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON FOR TO
AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON FOR TO YOUS COMPARE TO.
YOUS COMPARE TO.
YOUS COMPARE TO. IT WILL BE TOUGH SLEDDING.
IT WILL BE TOUGH SLEDDING.
IT WILL BE TOUGH SLEDDING. I WANT TO CONTINUE TO STRESS.
I WANT TO CONTINUE TO STRESS.
I WANT TO CONTINUE TO STRESS. IT'S NOT OVER.
IT'S NOT OVER.
IT'S NOT OVER. JOE BIDEN DID NOT WIN THE
JOE BIDEN DID NOT WIN THE
JOE BIDEN DID NOT WIN THE NOMINATION LAST NIGHT, BUT HE
NOMINATION LAST NIGHT, BUT HE
NOMINATION LAST NIGHT, BUT HE JUST CHANGED THE SHAPE OF THE
JUST CHANGED THE SHAPE OF THE
JUST CHANGED THE SHAPE OF THE RACE DRAMATICALLY.
RACE DRAMATICALLY.
RACE DRAMATICALLY. THERE'S A ROOT FOR BERNIE
THERE'S A ROOT FOR BERNIE
THERE'S A ROOT FOR BERNIE SANDERS, BUT IT'S NOT -- IT'S
SANDERS, BUT IT'S NOT -- IT'S
SANDERS, BUT IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT AN EASY ROUTE.
NOT AN EASY ROUTE.
NOT AN EASY ROUTE. >> Heather: BIDEN IS LEADING IN
>> Heather: BIDEN IS LEADING IN
>> Heather: BIDEN IS LEADING IN 7 OF THE 8 BIGGEST STATES IN THE
7 OF THE 8 BIGGEST STATES IN THE
7 OF THE 8 BIGGEST STATES IN THE PRIMARIES TO COME, SO IT IS NOT
PRIMARIES TO COME, SO IT IS NOT
PRIMARIES TO COME, SO IT IS NOT MAPPED IN HIS FAVOUR.
MAPPED IN HIS FAVOUR.
MAPPED IN HIS FAVOUR. ON FACEBOOK, JIM WANTS TO
ON FACEBOOK, JIM WANTS TO
ON FACEBOOK, JIM WANTS TO ASKING -- ALTHOUGH YOU SAID IT'S
ASKING -- ALTHOUGH YOU SAID IT'S
ASKING -- ALTHOUGH YOU SAID IT'S NOT FINISHED FOR BERNIE SANDERS
NOT FINISHED FOR BERNIE SANDERS
NOT FINISHED FOR BERNIE SANDERS AT ALL, THE MOVEMENT IS NOT
AT ALL, THE MOVEMENT IS NOT
AT ALL, THE MOVEMENT IS NOT OVER, BUT IS IT NOW, LYNDSAY, A
OVER, BUT IS IT NOW, LYNDSAY, A
OVER, BUT IS IT NOW, LYNDSAY, A TWO-CANDIDATE RACE?
TWO-CANDIDATE RACE?
TWO-CANDIDATE RACE? >> I THINK FOR ALL INTENTS AND
>> I THINK FOR ALL INTENTS AND
>> I THINK FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES IT IS.
PURPOSES IT IS.
PURPOSES IT IS. THE QUESTION IS DOES ELIZABETH
THE QUESTION IS DOES ELIZABETH
THE QUESTION IS DOES ELIZABETH WARREN STAY IN AND FRY TO PICK
WARREN STAY IN AND FRY TO PICK
WARREN STAY IN AND FRY TO PICK UP SOME DELEGATES, AND WHAT THAT
UP SOME DELEGATES, AND WHAT THAT
UP SOME DELEGATES, AND WHAT THAT WILL MEAN FOR THE TOTAL WHO WANT
WILL MEAN FOR THE TOTAL WHO WANT
WILL MEAN FOR THE TOTAL WHO WANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH BERN
TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH BERN
TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH BERN BLOOMBERG.
BLOOMBERG.
BLOOMBERG. HIS CAMPAIGN SAYS IT'S RI'
HIS CAMPAIGN SAYS IT'S RI'
HIS CAMPAIGN SAYS IT'S RI' SISZING FOR THE LONG HAUL.
SISZING FOR THE LONG HAUL.
SISZING FOR THE LONG HAUL. A LOT OF PRESSURE ON BLOOMBERG
A LOT OF PRESSURE ON BLOOMBERG
A LOT OF PRESSURE ON BLOOMBERG TODAY TO MAKE A CALL AND GET
TODAY TO MAKE A CALL AND GET
TODAY TO MAKE A CALL AND GET OUT, AND THAT ALSO COULD BE A
OUT, AND THAT ALSO COULD BE A
OUT, AND THAT ALSO COULD BE A GAME CHANGER BECAUSE REMEMBER
GAME CHANGER BECAUSE REMEMBER
GAME CHANGER BECAUSE REMEMBER MICHAEL BLOOMBERG SAID THIS
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG SAID THIS
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG SAID THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT HIM, HE'S IN IT
ISN'T JUST ABOUT HIM, HE'S IN IT
ISN'T JUST ABOUT HIM, HE'S IN IT DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP IS WHAT HE
DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP IS WHAT HE
DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP IS WHAT HE SAID HE PLANS TO DO IS PUT ALL
SAID HE PLANS TO DO IS PUT ALL
SAID HE PLANS TO DO IS PUT ALL THOSE MILLIONS, ALL THOSE REALLY
THOSE MILLIONS, ALL THOSE REALLY
THOSE MILLIONS, ALL THOSE REALLY HIGH-PAID STAFFERS EVEN TO THE
HIGH-PAID STAFFERS EVEN TO THE
HIGH-PAID STAFFERS EVEN TO THE FIGHT FOR THE EVENTUAL
FIGHT FOR THE EVENTUAL
FIGHT FOR THE EVENTUAL DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE.
DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE.
DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. THE ONLY PERSON WHO SAID HE
THE ONLY PERSON WHO SAID HE
THE ONLY PERSON WHO SAID HE DOESN'T WANT THAT CASH IS BERNIE
DOESN'T WANT THAT CASH IS BERNIE
DOESN'T WANT THAT CASH IS BERNIE SANDERS TP .
SANDERS TP .
SANDERS TP . IS THERE A POSSIBILITY, COULD IT
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY, COULD IT
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY, COULD IT BE SOON, WHERE MICHAEL BLOOMBERG
BE SOON, WHERE MICHAEL BLOOMBERG
BE SOON, WHERE MICHAEL BLOOMBERG STEPS OUT OF THE RACE TO PUT
STEPS OUT OF THE RACE TO PUT
STEPS OUT OF THE RACE TO PUT THAT MONEY AND THAT ORGANIZATION
THAT MONEY AND THAT ORGANIZATION
THAT MONEY AND THAT ORGANIZATION BEHIND JOE BIDEN, AND HOW WILL
BEHIND JOE BIDEN, AND HOW WILL
BEHIND JOE BIDEN, AND HOW WILL THAT CHANGE?
THAT CHANGE?
THAT CHANGE? >> Heather: WE'LL DO A LITTLE
>> Heather: WE'LL DO A LITTLE
>> Heather: WE'LL DO A LITTLE MUSICAL CHAIRS WHEN YOU COME
MUSICAL CHAIRS WHEN YOU COME
MUSICAL CHAIRS WHEN YOU COME BACK AND SEE US, BACK IN OUR
BACK AND SEE US, BACK IN OUR
BACK AND SEE US, BACK IN OUR ORIGINAL POSITIONS.
ORIGINAL POSITIONS.
ORIGINAL POSITIONS. MICHAEL BLOOMBERG, AS HE KNOW,
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG, AS HE KNOW,
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG, AS HE KNOW, HIS CAMPAIGN, WE UNDERSTAND
HIS CAMPAIGN, WE UNDERSTAND
HIS CAMPAIGN, WE UNDERSTAND HUDDLED TODAY IN FLORIDA TO
HUDDLED TODAY IN FLORIDA TO
HUDDLED TODAY IN FLORIDA TO ASSESS THE WAY FORWARD.
ASSESS THE WAY FORWARD.
ASSESS THE WAY FORWARD. COULD THERE BE A PRETTY COLD
COULD THERE BE A PRETTY COLD
COULD THERE BE A PRETTY COLD CALCULATION -- HE'S A DATA
CALCULATION -- HE'S A DATA
CALCULATION -- HE'S A DATA MACHINE YOU'VE BEEN MENTIONING
MACHINE YOU'VE BEEN MENTIONING
MACHINE YOU'VE BEEN MENTIONING THIS MORNING -- ABOUT WHETHER
THIS MORNING -- ABOUT WHETHER
THIS MORNING -- ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S A PATH FOR HIM.
THERE'S A PATH FOR HIM.
THERE'S A PATH FOR HIM. IT SEEMS PRETTY CONCLUSIVE THERE
IT SEEMS PRETTY CONCLUSIVE THERE
IT SEEMS PRETTY CONCLUSIVE THERE IS NOT.
IS NOT.
IS NOT. THE QUESTION ABOUT ELIZABETH
THE QUESTION ABOUT ELIZABETH
WARREN, SHE'S IN MICHIGAN
WARREN, SHE'S IN MICHIGAN
WARREN, SHE'S IN MICHIGAN WATCHING THE RETURNING.
WATCHING THE RETURNING.
WATCHING THE RETURNING. JEWEL JI WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN
JEWEL JI WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN
JEWEL JI WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE SHE'LL
WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE SHE'LL
WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE SHE'LL PULL VOTES AWAY FROM BERNIE
PULL VOTES AWAY FROM BERNIE
PULL VOTES AWAY FROM BERNIE SANDERS, WONDERING WHETHER OR
SANDERS, WONDERING WHETHER OR
SANDERS, WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A STRATEGIC MOVE.
NOT THIS IS A STRATEGIC MOVE.
NOT THIS IS A STRATEGIC MOVE. SHE CERTAINLY HAMMERED MICHAEL
SHE CERTAINLY HAMMERED MICHAEL
SHE CERTAINLY HAMMERED MICHAEL BLOOMBERG, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
BLOOMBERG, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
BLOOMBERG, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW SHE MAY HAVE REALLY FINISHED
HOW SHE MAY HAVE REALLY FINISHED
HOW SHE MAY HAVE REALLY FINISHED HITS CAMPAIGN BEFORE IT
HITS CAMPAIGN BEFORE IT
HITS CAMPAIGN BEFORE IT SERIOUSLY GOT UNDERWAY BY HER
SERIOUSLY GOT UNDERWAY BY HER
SERIOUSLY GOT UNDERWAY BY HER FIERCE ATTACKS ON THAT STAGE
FIERCE ATTACKS ON THAT STAGE
FIERCE ATTACKS ON THAT STAGE AHEAD OF THE NEVADA VOTE, BUT IN
AHEAD OF THE NEVADA VOTE, BUT IN
AHEAD OF THE NEVADA VOTE, BUT IN TERMS OF THE PROGRESSIVE LANE,
TERMS OF THE PROGRESSIVE LANE,
TERMS OF THE PROGRESSIVE LANE, KEITH, AND ELIZABETH WARREN'S
KEITH, AND ELIZABETH WARREN'S
KEITH, AND ELIZABETH WARREN'S STRATEGY, DOES SHE STAY IN TO
STRATEGY, DOES SHE STAY IN TO
STRATEGY, DOES SHE STAY IN TO CONTINUE TO TAKE VOTES AWAY FROM
CONTINUE TO TAKE VOTES AWAY FROM
CONTINUE TO TAKE VOTES AWAY FROM BERNIE SANDERS?
BERNIE SANDERS?
BERNIE SANDERS? HER MOVE NEXT SEEMS TO ME TO BE
HER MOVE NEXT SEEMS TO ME TO BE
HER MOVE NEXT SEEMS TO ME TO BE KEY.
KEY.
KEY. >> YOU KNOW, I'M NOT CLEAR SHE
>> YOU KNOW, I'M NOT CLEAR SHE
>> YOU KNOW, I'M NOT CLEAR SHE STAKES VOTES AWAY JUST FROM
STAKES VOTES AWAY JUST FROM
STAKES VOTES AWAY JUST FROM BERNIE SANDERS, OR TO FLIP THAT
BERNIE SANDERS, OR TO FLIP THAT
BERNIE SANDERS, OR TO FLIP THAT AROUND, THAT IF SHE GOT OUT OF
AROUND, THAT IF SHE GOT OUT OF
AROUND, THAT IF SHE GOT OUT OF THE RACE, YOU COULD JUST SHIFT
THE RACE, YOU COULD JUST SHIFT
THE RACE, YOU COULD JUST SHIFT ALL HER VOTES TO BERNIE SANDERS.
ALL HER VOTES TO BERNIE SANDERS.
ALL HER VOTES TO BERNIE SANDERS. HERS IS ONE OF THE CAMPAIGNS I
HERS IS ONE OF THE CAMPAIGNS I
HERS IS ONE OF THE CAMPAIGNS I THINK THAT WILL GET SCRUTINIZED
THINK THAT WILL GET SCRUTINIZED
THINK THAT WILL GET SCRUTINIZED QUITE HEAVILY AFTER THE ELECTION
QUITE HEAVILY AFTER THE ELECTION
QUITE HEAVILY AFTER THE ELECTION IS OVER, WHY DIDN'T SHE DO
IS OVER, WHY DIDN'T SHE DO
IS OVER, WHY DIDN'T SHE DO BETTER THAN SHE HAS.
BETTER THAN SHE HAS.
BETTER THAN SHE HAS. YOU REMEMBER IN THE FALL, THERE
YOU REMEMBER IN THE FALL, THERE
YOU REMEMBER IN THE FALL, THERE WAS A POINT WHERE SHE LOOKED
WAS A POINT WHERE SHE LOOKED
WAS A POINT WHERE SHE LOOKED LIKE SHE WAS GOING TO BE THE
LIKE SHE WAS GOING TO BE THE
LIKE SHE WAS GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE.
NOMINEE.
NOMINEE. SHE WAS URGING.
SHE WAS URGING.
SHE WAS URGING. SHE PASSED BERNIE SANDERS, AND
SHE PASSED BERNIE SANDERS, AND
SHE PASSED BERNIE SANDERS, AND THEN SHE BECAME MIRED IN DETAILS
THEN SHE BECAME MIRED IN DETAILS
THEN SHE BECAME MIRED IN DETAILS ABOUT HER HEALTH CARE PROGRAM.
ABOUT HER HEALTH CARE PROGRAM.
ABOUT HER HEALTH CARE PROGRAM. WHETHER IT WAS THAT THAT BROUGHT
WHETHER IT WAS THAT THAT BROUGHT
WHETHER IT WAS THAT THAT BROUGHT HER DOWN OR SOMETHING ELSE, I
HER DOWN OR SOMETHING ELSE, I
HER DOWN OR SOMETHING ELSE, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING PEOPLE
THINK THAT'S SOMETHING PEOPLE
THINK THAT'S SOMETHING PEOPLE WANT TO EXPLORE.
WANT TO EXPLORE.
WANT TO EXPLORE. SHE'S IN A DIFFICULT POSITION,
SHE'S IN A DIFFICULT POSITION,
SHE'S IN A DIFFICULT POSITION, RIGHT?
RIGHT?
RIGHT? SHE HAS BEEN THE CANDIDATE OF
SHE HAS BEEN THE CANDIDATE OF
SHE HAS BEEN THE CANDIDATE OF THE LEFT WHO WAS ALSO THE
THE LEFT WHO WAS ALSO THE
THE LEFT WHO WAS ALSO THE DEMOCRAT, A MEMBER OF THE PARTY
DEMOCRAT, A MEMBER OF THE PARTY
DEMOCRAT, A MEMBER OF THE PARTY AND THE ONE WHO IDENTIFIED
AND THE ONE WHO IDENTIFIED
AND THE ONE WHO IDENTIFIED HERSELF AS A CAPITALIST, NOT A
HERSELF AS A CAPITALIST, NOT A
HERSELF AS A CAPITALIST, NOT A SOCIALIST.
SOCIALIST.
SOCIALIST. SHE HAD DISTINGUISHED HERSELF
SHE HAD DISTINGUISHED HERSELF
SHE HAD DISTINGUISHED HERSELF FROM BERNIE SANDERS.
FROM BERNIE SANDERS.
FROM BERNIE SANDERS. SHE ALSO HAS A FUTURE IN THE
SHE ALSO HAS A FUTURE IN THE
SHE ALSO HAS A FUTURE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
DEMOCRATIC PARTY. WE DON'T KNOW HAD A THAT WOULD
WE DON'T KNOW HAD A THAT WOULD
WE DON'T KNOW HAD A THAT WOULD BE, BUT I WOULD EXPECT THAT SHE
BE, BUT I WOULD EXPECT THAT SHE
BE, BUT I WOULD EXPECT THAT SHE WOULD PLAY A BIGGER ROLE THAN
WOULD PLAY A BIGGER ROLE THAN
WOULD PLAY A BIGGER ROLE THAN JUST THE SENATOR OF
JUST THE SENATOR OF
JUST THE SENATOR OF MASSACHUSETTS IF THERE WAS A DR
MASSACHUSETTS IF THERE WAS A DR
MASSACHUSETTS IF THERE WAS A DR IF THERE WERE A BIDEN PRESIDENCY
IF THERE WERE A BIDEN PRESIDENCY
IF THERE WERE A BIDEN PRESIDENCY AND IF THERE WERE A SANDERS
AND IF THERE WERE A SANDERS
AND IF THERE WERE A SANDERS PRESIDENCY.
PRESIDENCY.
PRESIDENCY. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS SHE'S
I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS SHE'S
I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS SHE'S GOT TO THINK VERY CAREFULLY BUT
GOT TO THINK VERY CAREFULLY BUT
GOT TO THINK VERY CAREFULLY BUT ALSO VERY QUICKLY.
ALSO VERY QUICKLY.
ALSO VERY QUICKLY. >> Heather: ABOUT WHERE HER
>> Heather: ABOUT WHERE HER
>> Heather: ABOUT WHERE HER GREATEST CURRENCY, PERHAPS.
GREATEST CURRENCY, PERHAPS.
GREATEST CURRENCY, PERHAPS. >>> YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
>>> YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
>>> YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BLOOMBERG JUST A MOMENT AGO,
BLOOMBERG JUST A MOMENT AGO,
BLOOMBERG JUST A MOMENT AGO, WCTX HAS INDICATED TO US ON
WCTX HAS INDICATED TO US ON
WCTX HAS INDICATED TO US ON YOUTUBE, WONDERING WHETHER
YOUTUBE, WONDERING WHETHER
YOUTUBE, WONDERING WHETHER BLOOMBERG WILL BACK BIDEN IF HE
BLOOMBERG WILL BACK BIDEN IF HE
BLOOMBERG WILL BACK BIDEN IF HE SHOULD GO ON, IF HE SHOULD DROP
SHOULD GO ON, IF HE SHOULD DROP
SHOULD GO ON, IF HE SHOULD DROP OUT, IF WE SHOULD HEAR SOMETHING
OUT, IF WE SHOULD HEAR SOMETHING
OUT, IF WE SHOULD HEAR SOMETHING FROM HIM IN FLORIDA, SEEMINGLY
FROM HIM IN FLORIDA, SEEMINGLY
FROM HIM IN FLORIDA, SEEMINGLY HE SAID HE WOULD BACK WHOEVER
HE SAID HE WOULD BACK WHOEVER
HE SAID HE WOULD BACK WHOEVER ISES NOMINEE WITH MONEY, MAYBE
ISES NOMINEE WITH MONEY, MAYBE
ISES NOMINEE WITH MONEY, MAYBE NOT SANDERS.
NOT SANDERS.
NOT SANDERS. >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT BLOOMBERG
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT BLOOMBERG
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT BLOOMBERG HAS SAID, AND FEW LOOK AT THE
HAS SAID, AND FEW LOOK AT THE
HAS SAID, AND FEW LOOK AT THE REASON WHY BLOOMBERG GOT INTO
REASON WHY BLOOMBERG GOT INTO
REASON WHY BLOOMBERG GOT INTO THE RACE, HIS CALCULATION WAS A
THE RACE, HIS CALCULATION WAS A
THE RACE, HIS CALCULATION WAS A BIDEN CALCULATION, LOOKING AT
BIDEN CALCULATION, LOOKING AT
BIDEN CALCULATION, LOOKING AT HOW BIDEN APPEARED TO BE
HOW BIDEN APPEARED TO BE
HOW BIDEN APPEARED TO BE FLOUNDERING IN THE BEGINNING OF
FLOUNDERING IN THE BEGINNING OF
FLOUNDERING IN THE BEGINNING OF THE RACE, WANTING TO HAVE A
THE RACE, WANTING TO HAVE A
THE RACE, WANTING TO HAVE A CAMPAIGN THAT COULD BEAT DONALD
CAMPAIGN THAT COULD BEAT DONALD
CAMPAIGN THAT COULD BEAT DONALD TRUMP.
TRUMP.
TRUMP. SO NOW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE
SO NOW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE
SO NOW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE ESTABLISHMENT AND REGULAR VOTERS
ESTABLISHMENT AND REGULAR VOTERS
ESTABLISHMENT AND REGULAR VOTERS ARE ON THE MODERATE SIDE
ARE ON THE MODERATE SIDE
ARE ON THE MODERATE SIDE COALESCING AROUND THE BIDEN
COALESCING AROUND THE BIDEN
COALESCING AROUND THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN, THERE WOULD BE LOGIC
CAMPAIGN, THERE WOULD BE LOGIC
CAMPAIGN, THERE WOULD BE LOGIC TO THINKING THAT BLOOMBERG,
TO THINKING THAT BLOOMBERG,
TO THINKING THAT BLOOMBERG, SHOULD HE STEP OUT, WOULD PUT
SHOULD HE STEP OUT, WOULD PUT
SHOULD HE STEP OUT, WOULD PUT HIS SUPPORT BEHIND THAT.
HIS SUPPORT BEHIND THAT.
HIS SUPPORT BEHIND THAT. >> Heather: AND THAT WILL BE
>> Heather: AND THAT WILL BE
>> Heather: AND THAT WILL BE FORMIDABLE.
FORMIDABLE.
FORMIDABLE. HE'S PROMISED TO FUND WHOEVER IT
HE'S PROMISED TO FUND WHOEVER IT
HE'S PROMISED TO FUND WHOEVER IT IS -- MAYBE NOT SANDERS -- TO
IS -- MAYBE NOT SANDERS -- TO
IS -- MAYBE NOT SANDERS -- TO THE SAME DEGREE THAT HE WOULD IF
THE SAME DEGREE THAT HE WOULD IF
THE SAME DEGREE THAT HE WOULD IF HE WERE THE NOMINEE, WHICH MEANS
HE WERE THE NOMINEE, WHICH MEANS
HE WERE THE NOMINEE, WHICH MEANS MONEY ON ADVERTISING, IT MEANS
MONEY ON ADVERTISING, IT MEANS
MONEY ON ADVERTISING, IT MEANS INCREDIBLE MONEY IN TERMS OF
INCREDIBLE MONEY IN TERMS OF
INCREDIBLE MONEY IN TERMS OF ORGANIZATION, PAID STAFFERS,
ORGANIZATION, PAID STAFFERS,
ORGANIZATION, PAID STAFFERS, SOCIAL MEDIA PUSH THAT WE TALKED
SOCIAL MEDIA PUSH THAT WE TALKED
SOCIAL MEDIA PUSH THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE LAST COUPLE DAYS,
ABOUT FOR THE LAST COUPLE DAYS,
ABOUT FOR THE LAST COUPLE DAYS, THOSE ARE RESOURCES YOU WANT TO
THOSE ARE RESOURCES YOU WANT TO
THOSE ARE RESOURCES YOU WANT TO HAVE WHEN YOU'RE GOING UP
HAVE WHEN YOU'RE GOING UP
HAVE WHEN YOU'RE GOING UP AGAINST THE CURRENT RESIDENT IN
AGAINST THE CURRENT RESIDENT IN
AGAINST THE CURRENT RESIDENT IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
THE WHITE HOUSE.
THE WHITE HOUSE. >> Reporter: AND THERE ARE
>> Reporter: AND THERE ARE
>> Reporter: AND THERE ARE ROURSZ THAT, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE
ROURSZ THAT, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE
ROURSZ THAT, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE BIDEN, HE NEEDS, BECAUSE HIS
BIDEN, HE NEEDS, BECAUSE HIS
BIDEN, HE NEEDS, BECAUSE HIS FUNDRAISER HAS NOT BEEN ANYWHERE
FUNDRAISER HAS NOT BEEN ANYWHERE
FUNDRAISER HAS NOT BEEN ANYWHERE DISCLOSE WHAT BERNIE SANDERS HAS
DISCLOSE WHAT BERNIE SANDERS HAS
DISCLOSE WHAT BERNIE SANDERS HAS MANAGED TO ACHIEVE.
MANAGED TO ACHIEVE.
MANAGED TO ACHIEVE. HE NEEDS TO CHANGE THAT IF HE'S
HE NEEDS TO CHANGE THAT IF HE'S
HE NEEDS TO CHANGE THAT IF HE'S GOING TO GO AFTER THE HUGE WAR
GOING TO GO AFTER THE HUGE WAR
GOING TO GO AFTER THE HUGE WAR CHEST THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
CHEST THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
CHEST THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND DONALD TRUMP --
AND DONALD TRUMP --
AND DONALD TRUMP -- >> Heather: THEY ARE CHURNING IN
>> Heather: THEY ARE CHURNING IN
>> Heather: THEY ARE CHURNING IN MONEY, THEY'RE BRINGING IT IN
MONEY, THEY'RE BRINGING IT IN
MONEY, THEY'RE BRINGING IT IN ALL THE TIME FOR THE PUBILITY
ALL THE TIME FOR THE PUBILITY
ALL THE TIME FOR THE PUBILITY SIDE.
SIDE.
SIDE. SORRY, YES.
SORRY, YES.
SORRY, YES. >> HE HAS A TON OF MONEY, BUT
>> HE HAS A TON OF MONEY, BUT
>> HE HAS A TON OF MONEY, BUT DON'T FORGET, IF HE'S OUT OF THE
DON'T FORGET, IF HE'S OUT OF THE
DON'T FORGET, IF HE'S OUT OF THE RACE AND LOOKING AT ANOTHER
RACE AND LOOKING AT ANOTHER
RACE AND LOOKING AT ANOTHER CANDIDATE, HE NOW HAS TO ABIDE
CANDIDATE, HE NOW HAS TO ABIDE
CANDIDATE, HE NOW HAS TO ABIDE BY CAMPAIGN FINANCE RULES, SO
BY CAMPAIGN FINANCE RULES, SO
BY CAMPAIGN FINANCE RULES, SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS HE
THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS HE
THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS HE HAS TO CONSIDER ABOUT HOW MUCH
HAS TO CONSIDER ABOUT HOW MUCH
HAS TO CONSIDER ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY HE CAN SPEND AND WHERE TO
MONEY HE CAN SPEND AND WHERE TO
MONEY HE CAN SPEND AND WHERE TO PUT IT.
PUT IT.
PUT IT. >> Heather: HE CAN'T PUT IN
>> Heather: HE CAN'T PUT IN
>> Heather: HE CAN'T PUT IN ANOTHER $500 MILLION.
ANOTHER $500 MILLION.
ANOTHER $500 MILLION. >> HE COULD CONTRIBUTE TO A
>> HE COULD CONTRIBUTE TO A
>> HE COULD CONTRIBUTE TO A SUPER-PAC, BUT THAT CAN'T
SUPER-PAC, BUT THAT CAN'T
SUPER-PAC, BUT THAT CAN'T COORDINATE WITH THE CAMPAIGN OR
COORDINATE WITH THE CAMPAIGN OR
COORDINATE WITH THE CAMPAIGN OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE LAW
AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE LAW
AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE LAW SAYS, RIGHT?
SAYS, RIGHT?
SAYS, RIGHT? ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT DIFFICULT TO
ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT DIFFICULT TO
ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MOVES THE
FIGURE OUT WHAT MOVES THE
FIGURE OUT WHAT MOVES THE CAMPAIGN MIGHT MAKE.
CAMPAIGN MIGHT MAKE.
CAMPAIGN MIGHT MAKE. THE RULES WILL CHANGE FOR HIM A
THE RULES WILL CHANGE FOR HIM A
THE RULES WILL CHANGE FOR HIM A BIT.
BIT.
BIT. HIS FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION WILL
HIS FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION WILL
HIS FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL.
BE SUBSTANTIAL.
BE SUBSTANTIAL. AND IT WILL BE AIMED AT
AND IT WILL BE AIMED AT
AND IT WILL BE AIMED AT DEFEATING DONALD TRUMP.
DEFEATING DONALD TRUMP.
DEFEATING DONALD TRUMP. WHETHER -- BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE
WHETHER -- BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE
WHETHER -- BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE THE A CAMPAIGN WITH NOMINEE THE
THE A CAMPAIGN WITH NOMINEE THE
THE A CAMPAIGN WITH NOMINEE THE DIRECTING THE FUNDS THAT ARE
DIRECTING THE FUNDS THAT ARE
DIRECTING THE FUNDS THAT ARE COMING FROM BLOOMBERG.
COMING FROM BLOOMBERG.
COMING FROM BLOOMBERG. >> Heather: QUESTION FROM
>> Heather: QUESTION FROM
>> Heather: QUESTION FROM FACEBOOK AND DONNA, AND DONNA,
FACEBOOK AND DONNA, AND DONNA,
FACEBOOK AND DONNA, AND DONNA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS ONE, SO FAR FOR ALL YOUR
ONE, SO FAR FOR ALL YOUR
ONE, SO FAR FOR ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, THEY'RE FANTASTIC.
QUESTIONS, THEY'RE FANTASTIC.
QUESTIONS, THEY'RE FANTASTIC. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE DEEGATES
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE DEEGATES
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE DEEGATES FOR THE CANDIDATES WHO LEAVE THE
FOR THE CANDIDATES WHO LEAVE THE
FOR THE CANDIDATES WHO LEAVE THE RACE?
RACE?
RACE? >> OH.
>> OH.
>> OH. I JUST LOOKED THIS UP BEFORE WE
I JUST LOOKED THIS UP BEFORE WE
I JUST LOOKED THIS UP BEFORE WE CAME ON THE AIR.
CAME ON THE AIR.
CAME ON THE AIR. THEY ARE -- THEY ARE NOT PLEDGED
THEY ARE -- THEY ARE NOT PLEDGED
THEY ARE -- THEY ARE NOT PLEDGED TO ANYBODY.
TO ANYBODY.
TO ANYBODY. >> THEY'RE NOT.
>> THEY'RE NOT.
>> THEY'RE NOT. >> THEY ARE FREE TO DO AS THEY
>> THEY ARE FREE TO DO AS THEY
>> THEY ARE FREE TO DO AS THEY CHOOSE.
CHOOSE.
CHOOSE. HOWEVER, THEY SUPPORTED A
HOWEVER, THEY SUPPORTED A
HOWEVER, THEY SUPPORTED A CANDIDATE FOR A REASON, WHICH IS
CANDIDATE FOR A REASON, WHICH IS
CANDIDATE FOR A REASON, WHICH IS USUALLY THAT THEY TRUST THEIR
USUALLY THAT THEY TRUST THEIR
USUALLY THAT THEY TRUST THEIR JUDGMENT, AT LEAST TO A CERTAIN
JUDGMENT, AT LEAST TO A CERTAIN
JUDGMENT, AT LEAST TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
EXTENT.
EXTENT. >> Heather: SO THEY WILL STILL
>> Heather: SO THEY WILL STILL
>> Heather: SO THEY WILL STILL GO TO THE CONVENTION, BUT
GO TO THE CONVENTION, BUT
GO TO THE CONVENTION, BUT THEY'RE NOT ATTACHED.
THEY'RE NOT ATTACHED.
THEY'RE NOT ATTACHED. THEY REMAIN AS DELEGATES.
THEY REMAIN AS DELEGATES.
THEY REMAIN AS DELEGATES. >> BUT WHAT I MEAN IS -- I'M
>> BUT WHAT I MEAN IS -- I'M
>> BUT WHAT I MEAN IS -- I'M SORRY.
SORRY.
SORRY. BUT JUST TO FINISH.
BUT JUST TO FINISH.
BUT JUST TO FINISH. IF YOUR SUPPORTING PETE
IF YOUR SUPPORTING PETE
IF YOUR SUPPORTING PETE BUTTIGIEG, AND YOU'RE A DELEGATE
BUTTIGIEG, AND YOU'RE A DELEGATE
BUTTIGIEG, AND YOU'RE A DELEGATE GOING TO THE CONVENTION, THE
GOING TO THE CONVENTION, THE
GOING TO THE CONVENTION, THE CHANCES ARE YOUR GOING TO BE
CHANCES ARE YOUR GOING TO BE
CHANCES ARE YOUR GOING TO BE SUPPORTING JOE BIDEN OVER BERNIE
SUPPORTING JOE BIDEN OVER BERNIE
SUPPORTING JOE BIDEN OVER BERNIE SANDERS.
SANDERS.
SANDERS. SO I THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO
SO I THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO
SO I THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO LOOK AT IT.
LOOK AT IT.
LOOK AT IT. OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT PLEDGED.
OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT PLEDGED.
OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT PLEDGED. I'M SORRY.
I'M SORRY.
I'M SORRY. >> NO, EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
>> NO, EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
>> NO, EXACTLY THE SAME THING. >> Heather: SO FOR EXAMPLE, GREG
>> Heather: SO FOR EXAMPLE, GREG
>> Heather: SO FOR EXAMPLE, GREG WAS WONDERING IS IT NOT THE
WAS WONDERING IS IT NOT THE
WAS WONDERING IS IT NOT THE NUMBER OF DELEGATES THAT
NUMBER OF DELEGATES THAT
NUMBER OF DELEGATES THAT DETERMINES THE DEMOCRATIC
DETERMINES THE DEMOCRATIC
DETERMINES THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE?
CANDIDATE?
CANDIDATE? YES, IT IS.
YES, IT IS.
YES, IT IS. WHY THEN DOES THE COVERAGE FOCUS
WHY THEN DOES THE COVERAGE FOCUS
WHY THEN DOES THE COVERAGE FOCUS SO MUCH ON STATE WINS, WHY NOT
SO MUCH ON STATE WINS, WHY NOT
SO MUCH ON STATE WINS, WHY NOT THE CUMULATIVE NUMBER OF
THE CUMULATIVE NUMBER OF
THE CUMULATIVE NUMBER OF DELEGATES EARNED NATIONALLY?
DELEGATES EARNED NATIONALLY?
DELEGATES EARNED NATIONALLY? >> WE'RE KIND OF DOING THAT AT
>> WE'RE KIND OF DOING THAT AT
>> WE'RE KIND OF DOING THAT AT THE SAME TIME.
THE SAME TIME.
THE SAME TIME. THERE IS THIS RULE, THE 15%
THERE IS THIS RULE, THE 15%
THERE IS THIS RULE, THE 15% RULE, THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT,
RULE, THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT,
RULE, THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND THAT LOOKS AT STATE-WIDE
AND THAT LOOKS AT STATE-WIDE
AND THAT LOOKS AT STATE-WIDE NUMBERS, AND NUMBERS WITHIN THE
NUMBERS, AND NUMBERS WITHIN THE
NUMBERS, AND NUMBERS WITHIN THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS, BE THEY
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS, BE THEY
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS, BE THEY HOUSE DISTRICTS, CONGRESSIONAL
HOUSE DISTRICTS, CONGRESSIONAL
HOUSE DISTRICTS, CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS, OR SENATE DISTRICTS
DISTRICTS, OR SENATE DISTRICTS
DISTRICTS, OR SENATE DISTRICTS IN SOME RARE CASES, AND
IN SOME RARE CASES, AND
IN SOME RARE CASES, AND EVERYBODY HAS TO MEET THAT 15%
EVERYBODY HAS TO MEET THAT 15%
EVERYBODY HAS TO MEET THAT 15% THRESHOLD IN THOSE CONTESTS, AND
THRESHOLD IN THOSE CONTESTS, AND
THRESHOLD IN THOSE CONTESTS, AND THEN MOVE ON, BUT YOU STILL LOOK
THEN MOVE ON, BUT YOU STILL LOOK
THEN MOVE ON, BUT YOU STILL LOOK AT THE NATIONAL PICTURE.
AT THE NATIONAL PICTURE.
AT THE NATIONAL PICTURE. >> THERE ARE TWO POOLS.
>> THERE ARE TWO POOLS.
>> THERE ARE TWO POOLS. YOU CAN GET THE DELEGATES
YOU CAN GET THE DELEGATES
YOU CAN GET THE DELEGATES STATE-WIDE AS WELL AS THE
STATE-WIDE AS WELL AS THE
STATE-WIDE AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT NUMBERS.
DISTRICT NUMBERS.
DISTRICT NUMBERS. THE OTHER THING THE STATES GAVE
THE OTHER THING THE STATES GAVE
THE OTHER THING THE STATES GAVE YOU IS A SENSE OF HOW TO
YOU IS A SENSE OF HOW TO
YOU IS A SENSE OF HOW TO CHARACTERIZE THE CHARACTER OF
CHARACTERIZE THE CHARACTER OF
CHARACTERIZE THE CHARACTER OF THE VOTE.
THE VOTE.
THE VOTE. WE TALK ABOUT ALABAMA.
WE TALK ABOUT ALABAMA.
WE TALK ABOUT ALABAMA. THAT IS A VOTE THAT IS LARGELY
THAT IS A VOTE THAT IS LARGELY
THAT IS A VOTE THAT IS LARGELY AFRICAN AMERICAN, WE SAW BIDEN'S
AFRICAN AMERICAN, WE SAW BIDEN'S
AFRICAN AMERICAN, WE SAW BIDEN'S BLACK SUPPORT THERE.
BLACK SUPPORT THERE.
BLACK SUPPORT THERE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CALIFORNIA,
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CALIFORNIA,
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CALIFORNIA, IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. LOOKING AT THE STATES GIVES YOU
LOOKING AT THE STATES GIVES YOU
LOOKING AT THE STATES GIVES YOU A DIFFERENT STORY.
A DIFFERENT STORY.
A DIFFERENT STORY. >> Heather: JUST WANT TO SAY IF
>> Heather: JUST WANT TO SAY IF
>> Heather: JUST WANT TO SAY IF YOU HEAR SOME NOISE, WE ARE
YOU HEAR SOME NOISE, WE ARE
YOU HEAR SOME NOISE, WE ARE HAVING ALL SORTS OF TECHNICAL
HAVING ALL SORTS OF TECHNICAL
HAVING ALL SORTS OF TECHNICAL JOY THIS MORNING.
JOY THIS MORNING.
JOY THIS MORNING. AUDIO ISSUES, RIGHT BEHIND US,
AUDIO ISSUES, RIGHT BEHIND US,
AUDIO ISSUES, RIGHT BEHIND US, THERE'S SCAFFOLDING, AND THEY
THERE'S SCAFFOLDING, AND THEY
THERE'S SCAFFOLDING, AND THEY ARE BUILDING SOMETHING BEHIND US
ARE BUILDING SOMETHING BEHIND US
ARE BUILDING SOMETHING BEHIND US WE HAVE OTHER TELEVISION STUDIOS
WE HAVE OTHER TELEVISION STUDIOS
WE HAVE OTHER TELEVISION STUDIOS ON THE ROOF AND THEY'RE ACTIVELY
ON THE ROOF AND THEY'RE ACTIVELY
ON THE ROOF AND THEY'RE ACTIVELY CONSTRUCTING SOMETHING.
CONSTRUCTING SOMETHING.
CONSTRUCTING SOMETHING. IF YOU HEAR HAMMERING BEHIND US,
IF YOU HEAR HAMMERING BEHIND US,
IF YOU HEAR HAMMERING BEHIND US, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE, THANK
AND I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE, THANK
AND I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE, THANK YOU.
YOU.
YOU. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TURN OUT
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TURN OUT
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TURN OUT IN VIRGINIA, NOTINGLY, UP OVER
IN VIRGINIA, NOTINGLY, UP OVER
IN VIRGINIA, NOTINGLY, UP OVER 2016 WHEN IT WAS CLINTON
2016 WHEN IT WAS CLINTON
2016 WHEN IT WAS CLINTON SANDERS, SO THE TURN OUT IS UP.
SANDERS, SO THE TURN OUT IS UP.
SANDERS, SO THE TURN OUT IS UP. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW BERNIE
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW BERNIE
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW BERNIE SANDERS HAS PROMISED TO BRING IN
SANDERS HAS PROMISED TO BRING IN
SANDERS HAS PROMISED TO BRING IN NEW VOTERS TO INCREASE THE BASE,
NEW VOTERS TO INCREASE THE BASE,
NEW VOTERS TO INCREASE THE BASE, AND YET EVEN THOUGH THE VOTER
AND YET EVEN THOUGH THE VOTER
AND YET EVEN THOUGH THE VOTER TURN OUT WAS UP, THEY WERE NOT
TURN OUT WAS UP, THEY WERE NOT
TURN OUT WAS UP, THEY WERE NOT BERNIE SUPPORTERS, THEY WENT FOR
BERNIE SUPPORTERS, THEY WENT FOR
BERNIE SUPPORTERS, THEY WENT FOR BIDEN.
BIDEN.
BIDEN. SO IDLY MUSING, THANK YOU VERY
SO IDLY MUSING, THANK YOU VERY
SO IDLY MUSING, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WANTS TO KNOW WHAT THAT
MUCH, WANTS TO KNOW WHAT THAT
MUCH, WANTS TO KNOW WHAT THAT INDICATES AND WHAT IT MIGHT
INDICATES AND WHAT IT MIGHT
INDICATES AND WHAT IT MIGHT PORTEND FOR THE GENERAL
PORTEND FOR THE GENERAL
PORTEND FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION.
ELECTION.
ELECTION. >> I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE
>> I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE
>> I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THAT WAS COMING OUT, IT WAS
THAT WAS COMING OUT, IT WAS
THAT WAS COMING OUT, IT WAS COMING FROM SUBURBAN AREAS, AND
COMING FROM SUBURBAN AREAS, AND
COMING FROM SUBURBAN AREAS, AND WHEN YOU HEAD THAT TO 2018 AND
WHEN YOU HEAD THAT TO 2018 AND
WHEN YOU HEAD THAT TO 2018 AND THE KINDS OF VOTERS THAT TUREPD
THE KINDS OF VOTERS THAT TUREPD
THE KINDS OF VOTERS THAT TUREPD OUT TO BRING ALL THOSE NEW
OUT TO BRING ALL THOSE NEW
OUT TO BRING ALL THOSE NEW MEMBERS TO THE HOUSE OF
MEMBERS TO THE HOUSE OF
MEMBERS TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND MAKE NANCY
REPRESENTATIVES AND MAKE NANCY
REPRESENTATIVES AND MAKE NANCY PELOSI THE SPEAKER AGAIN, WHAT
PELOSI THE SPEAKER AGAIN, WHAT
PELOSI THE SPEAKER AGAIN, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THE PEOPLE THAT
YOU'RE SEEING IS THE PEOPLE THAT
YOU'RE SEEING IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST BOTHERED BY POLITICS
ARE MOST BOTHERED BY POLITICS
ARE MOST BOTHERED BY POLITICS RIGHT NOW MOST LIKELY TO COME
RIGHT NOW MOST LIKELY TO COME
RIGHT NOW MOST LIKELY TO COME OUT ARE IN THOSE SUBURBAN AREAS,
OUT ARE IN THOSE SUBURBAN AREAS,
OUT ARE IN THOSE SUBURBAN AREAS, THEY'RE LIKELY MORE MODERATE,
THEY'RE LIKELY MORE MODERATE,
THEY'RE LIKELY MORE MODERATE, AND THE REASON FOR VOTING IS ALL
AND THE REASON FOR VOTING IS ALL
AND THE REASON FOR VOTING IS ALL DEFEATING DONALD TRUMP.
DEFEATING DONALD TRUMP.
DEFEATING DONALD TRUMP. >> Heather: BUT FURTHER TO THE
>> Heather: BUT FURTHER TO THE
>> Heather: BUT FURTHER TO THE POINT THAT YOU WERE MAKING IN
POINT THAT YOU WERE MAKING IN
POINT THAT YOU WERE MAKING IN OUR LAST HOUR, IF HE CAN'T
OUR LAST HOUR, IF HE CAN'T
OUR LAST HOUR, IF HE CAN'T DELIVER THOSE NEW VOTERS, WHAT
DELIVER THOSE NEW VOTERS, WHAT
DELIVER THOSE NEW VOTERS, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT -- IS THERE A
HAPPENS TO THAT -- IS THERE A
HAPPENS TO THAT -- IS THERE A CEILING TO THE BERNIE SANDERS
CEILING TO THE BERNIE SANDERS
CEILING TO THE BERNIE SANDERS COALITION IF THEY'RE NOT TURNING
COALITION IF THEY'RE NOT TURNING
COALITION IF THEY'RE NOT TURNING OUT IN THE WAY THAT HE HAS
OUT IN THE WAY THAT HE HAS
OUT IN THE WAY THAT HE HAS PREDICTED, KEITH?
PREDICTED, KEITH?
PREDICTED, KEITH? >> SURE.
>> SURE.
>> SURE. I MEAN, CLEARLY BERNIE SANDERS
I MEAN, CLEARLY BERNIE SANDERS
I MEAN, CLEARLY BERNIE SANDERS HAS BEEN SAYING I'M THE GUY WHO
HAS BEEN SAYING I'M THE GUY WHO
HAS BEEN SAYING I'M THE GUY WHO CAN BRING IN NEW VOTERS, AND
CAN BRING IN NEW VOTERS, AND
CAN BRING IN NEW VOTERS, AND THAT'S WHAT MY ELECTABILITY IS
THAT'S WHAT MY ELECTABILITY IS
THAT'S WHAT MY ELECTABILITY IS ALL ABOUT, AND HE HASN'T DONE
ALL ABOUT, AND HE HASN'T DONE
ALL ABOUT, AND HE HASN'T DONE IT.
IT.
IT. HE HASN'T DONE IT TO THE EXTENT
HE HASN'T DONE IT TO THE EXTENT
HE HASN'T DONE IT TO THE EXTENT THAT HE WAS SAYING THAT HE
THAT HE WAS SAYING THAT HE
THAT HE WAS SAYING THAT HE COULD.
COULD.
COULD. HE'S KICKED THE SLATS OUT OF HIS
HE'S KICKED THE SLATS OUT OF HIS
HE'S KICKED THE SLATS OUT OF HIS STRONGEST ARGUMENT FOR BEING
STRONGEST ARGUMENT FOR BEING
STRONGEST ARGUMENT FOR BEING ELECTED BECAUSE HE DIDN'T
ELECTED BECAUSE HE DIDN'T
ELECTED BECAUSE HE DIDN'T DELIVER LAST NIGHT.
DELIVER LAST NIGHT.
DELIVER LAST NIGHT. >> Heather: SO FAR IS IS THERE
>> Heather: SO FAR IS IS THERE
>> Heather: SO FAR IS IS THERE STILL TIME TO PROVE -- THERE ARE
STILL TIME TO PROVE -- THERE ARE
STILL TIME TO PROVE -- THERE ARE MANY PRIMARIES TO COME, THEY
MANY PRIMARIES TO COME, THEY
MANY PRIMARIES TO COME, THEY SAID IT'S NOT OVER.
SAID IT'S NOT OVER.
SAID IT'S NOT OVER. >> SURE.
>> SURE.
>> SURE. LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE
LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE
LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE LAST WEEK.
LAST WEEK.
LAST WEEK. WHAT YOU SAW WAS THAT DEMOCRATS
WHAT YOU SAW WAS THAT DEMOCRATS
WHAT YOU SAW WAS THAT DEMOCRATS GOT BEHIND JOE BIDEN BECAUSE
GOT BEHIND JOE BIDEN BECAUSE
GOT BEHIND JOE BIDEN BECAUSE THEY GOT A PARTICULAR MESSAGE OF
THEY GOT A PARTICULAR MESSAGE OF
THEY GOT A PARTICULAR MESSAGE OF HOW THINGS WERE GOING TO GO.
HOW THINGS WERE GOING TO GO.
HOW THINGS WERE GOING TO GO. THOSE THAT WEREN'T ENTHUSIASTIC
THOSE THAT WEREN'T ENTHUSIASTIC
THOSE THAT WEREN'T ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN
ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN
ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN GOT A MESSAGE LAST NIGHT TOO.
GOT A MESSAGE LAST NIGHT TOO.
GOT A MESSAGE LAST NIGHT TOO. THEY'LL REACT TO IT.
THEY'LL REACT TO IT.
THEY'LL REACT TO IT. >> Heather: AND THEY MIGHT TO
>> Heather: AND THEY MIGHT TO
>> Heather: AND THEY MIGHT TO THE BE VERY HAPPY IF THEY
THE BE VERY HAPPY IF THEY
THE BE VERY HAPPY IF THEY PERCEIVE THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT
PERCEIVE THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT
PERCEIVE THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT HAS TURNED AGAINST THEM.
HAS TURNED AGAINST THEM.
HAS TURNED AGAINST THEM. >> THAT PLAYS RIGHT INTO ONE OF
>> THAT PLAYS RIGHT INTO ONE OF
>> THAT PLAYS RIGHT INTO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FUELS AT LEAST
THE THINGS THAT FUELS AT LEAST
THE THINGS THAT FUELS AT LEAST SOME OF IF NOT MANY OF BERNIE
SOME OF IF NOT MANY OF BERNIE
SOME OF IF NOT MANY OF BERNIE SANDERS' SUPPORTERS, AND THAT IS
SANDERS' SUPPORTERS, AND THAT IS
SANDERS' SUPPORTERS, AND THAT IS ANGER, THAT IS ANGER AT THE WAY
ANGER, THAT IS ANGER AT THE WAY
ANGER, THAT IS ANGER AT THE WAY THE DECK IS STACKED AGAINST THE
THE DECK IS STACKED AGAINST THE
THE DECK IS STACKED AGAINST THE MIDDLE CLASS IS THE WORKING
MIDDLE CLASS IS THE WORKING
MIDDLE CLASS IS THE WORKING CLASS AND THIS RESULT IN
CLASS AND THIS RESULT IN
CLASS AND THIS RESULT IN PERCEPTION THAT BERNIE SANDERS
PERCEPTION THAT BERNIE SANDERS
PERCEPTION THAT BERNIE SANDERS POINTED OUT AS SOON AS THE
POINTED OUT AS SOON AS THE
POINTED OUT AS SOON AS THE ENDORSEMENTS FROM BUTTIGIEG AND
ENDORSEMENTS FROM BUTTIGIEG AND
ENDORSEMENTS FROM BUTTIGIEG AND KLOBUCHAR CAME IN THAT THE
KLOBUCHAR CAME IN THAT THE
KLOBUCHAR CAME IN THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT WAS CLOSING IN
ESTABLISHMENT WAS CLOSING IN
ESTABLISHMENT WAS CLOSING IN AGAINST THEM, AND WHAT THAT IS
AGAINST THEM, AND WHAT THAT IS
AGAINST THEM, AND WHAT THAT IS IS A SIGN TO THOSE SUPPORTERS,
IS A SIGN TO THOSE SUPPORTERS,
IS A SIGN TO THOSE SUPPORTERS, WE ARE IN FOR A FIGHT, AND WE
WE ARE IN FOR A FIGHT, AND WE
WE ARE IN FOR A FIGHT, AND WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A CANDIDATE
KNOW THAT THIS IS A CANDIDATE
KNOW THAT THIS IS A CANDIDATE WHO WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT UNTIL
WHO WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT UNTIL
WHO WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT UNTIL THE BITTER END, WHICH IS EXACTLY
THE BITTER END, WHICH IS EXACTLY
THE BITTER END, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAW PLAY OUT AT THE
WHAT YOU SAW PLAY OUT AT THE
WHAT YOU SAW PLAY OUT AT THE 2016 CONVENTION, AND THE FACT
2016 CONVENTION, AND THE FACT
2016 CONVENTION, AND THE FACT THAT THIS COULD BE LONG.
THAT THIS COULD BE LONG.
THAT THIS COULD BE LONG. >> THAT WAS AFRICAN AMERICAN
>> THAT WAS AFRICAN AMERICAN
>> THAT WAS AFRICAN AMERICAN SUPPORTERS WHO STARTED IN SOUTH
SUPPORTERS WHO STARTED IN SOUTH
SUPPORTERS WHO STARTED IN SOUTH CAROLINA WHEREBY THEY SUDDENLY
CAROLINA WHEREBY THEY SUDDENLY
CAROLINA WHEREBY THEY SUDDENLY THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PARTY?
THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PARTY?
THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PARTY? THAT'S A VERY DANGEROUS CASE TO
THAT'S A VERY DANGEROUS CASE TO
THAT'S A VERY DANGEROUS CASE TO START TRYING TO MAKE BECAUSE
START TRYING TO MAKE BECAUSE
START TRYING TO MAKE BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL THAT WAY
THEY DON'T FEEL THAT WAY
THEY DON'T FEEL THAT WAY >> Heather: YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY
>> Heather: YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY
>> Heather: YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, I THINK -- I DON'T THINK,
RIGHT, I THINK -- I DON'T THINK,
RIGHT, I THINK -- I DON'T THINK, DID I READ SOME ANALYSIS THIS
DID I READ SOME ANALYSIS THIS
DID I READ SOME ANALYSIS THIS MORNING SAYING IT WAS NOT THE
MORNING SAYING IT WAS NOT THE
MORNING SAYING IT WAS NOT THE ESTABLISHMENT COMING TO THE
ESTABLISHMENT COMING TO THE
ESTABLISHMENT COMING TO THE RESCUE OF JOE BIDEN, IT WAS
RESCUE OF JOE BIDEN, IT WAS
RESCUE OF JOE BIDEN, IT WAS AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS WHO
AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS WHO
AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS WHO WOULD COME TO THE RESCUE OF JOE
WOULD COME TO THE RESCUE OF JOE
WOULD COME TO THE RESCUE OF JOE BIDEN AND SEEM VERY LIKELY TO
BIDEN AND SEEM VERY LIKELY TO
BIDEN AND SEEM VERY LIKELY TO PROPEL HIM FORWARD.
PROPEL HIM FORWARD.
PROPEL HIM FORWARD. IF WE HAVE A BIDEN-SANDERS FACE
IF WE HAVE A BIDEN-SANDERS FACE
IF WE HAVE A BIDEN-SANDERS FACE OFF AS IT SEEMS TO INDICATE THIS
OFF AS IT SEEMS TO INDICATE THIS
OFF AS IT SEEMS TO INDICATE THIS MORNING, MARIE ON TWITTER WOULD
MORNING, MARIE ON TWITTER WOULD
MORNING, MARIE ON TWITTER WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY AGE DOES NOT
LIKE TO KNOW WHY AGE DOES NOT
LIKE TO KNOW WHY AGE DOES NOT SEEM TO PLAY A ROLE IN SELECTING
SEEM TO PLAY A ROLE IN SELECTING
SEEM TO PLAY A ROLE IN SELECTING A CANDIDATE.
A CANDIDATE.
A CANDIDATE. YOU HAVE 78, BERNIE SANDERS, 77
YOU HAVE 78, BERNIE SANDERS, 77
YOU HAVE 78, BERNIE SANDERS, 77 JOE BIDEN.
JOE BIDEN.
JOE BIDEN. >> Reporter: THESE ARE NOT YOUNG
>> Reporter: THESE ARE NOT YOUNG
>> Reporter: THESE ARE NOT YOUNG CANDIDATES, THESE ARE NOT SPRING
CANDIDATES, THESE ARE NOT SPRING
CANDIDATES, THESE ARE NOT SPRING CHICKENS COMPETING FOR THE WHITE
CHICKENS COMPETING FOR THE WHITE
CHICKENS COMPETING FOR THE WHITE HOUSE HERE, AND I THINK IT IS
HOUSE HERE, AND I THINK IT IS
HOUSE HERE, AND I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE
SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE
SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY THE
TALKING ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY THE
TALKING ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY THE YOUNGER CANDIDATES WEREN'T THE
YOUNGER CANDIDATES WEREN'T THE
YOUNGER CANDIDATES WEREN'T THE FIRST CHOICES OF THE PEOPLE, BUT
FIRST CHOICES OF THE PEOPLE, BUT
FIRST CHOICES OF THE PEOPLE, BUT IF WE LOOK AT THINGS SUCH AS
IF WE LOOK AT THINGS SUCH AS
IF WE LOOK AT THINGS SUCH AS VICE PRESIDENTIAL PICKS,
VICE PRESIDENTIAL PICKS,
VICE PRESIDENTIAL PICKS, GENERATIONAL REPRESENTATION IS
GENERATIONAL REPRESENTATION IS
GENERATIONAL REPRESENTATION IS SOMETHING THEY'LL HAVE TO LOOK
SOMETHING THEY'LL HAVE TO LOOK
AT.
AT.
AT. ALSO TOO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT MEN
ALSO TOO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT MEN
ALSO TOO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT MEN IN THEIR MID TO LATE 70s, AND
IN THEIR MID TO LATE 70s, AND
IN THEIR MID TO LATE 70s, AND THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT
THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT
THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE COULD BE A HEALTH CONCERN
THERE COULD BE A HEALTH CONCERN
THERE COULD BE A HEALTH CONCERN WITH ANY OF THESE.
WITH ANY OF THESE.
WITH ANY OF THESE. >> Heather: BERNIE SANDERS, HE
>> Heather: BERNIE SANDERS, HE
>> Heather: BERNIE SANDERS, HE HAS NOT RELEASED HIS FULL
HAS NOT RELEASED HIS FULL
HAS NOT RELEASED HIS FULL HEALTH.
HEALTH.
HEALTH. >> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. THEY'RE JUST STATISTICALLY
THEY'RE JUST STATISTICALLY
THEY'RE JUST STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, HEALTH WILL I THINK
SPEAKING, HEALTH WILL I THINK
SPEAKING, HEALTH WILL I THINK CONTINUE TO BE -- AND PERHAPS
CONTINUE TO BE -- AND PERHAPS
CONTINUE TO BE -- AND PERHAPS MORE SO AS WE GO FORWARD.
MORE SO AS WE GO FORWARD.
MORE SO AS WE GO FORWARD. >> Heather: DO YOU WANT TO ADD
>> Heather: DO YOU WANT TO ADD
>> Heather: DO YOU WANT TO ADD IN ON THAT ONE?
IN ON THAT ONE?
IN ON THAT ONE? >> I THINK BERNIE SANDERS THING
>> I THINK BERNIE SANDERS THING
>> I THINK BERNIE SANDERS THING IS HE'S HERE TO EXPLAIN ODDLY
IS HE'S HERE TO EXPLAIN ODDLY
IS HE'S HERE TO EXPLAIN ODDLY BECAUSE BERNIE SANDERS IS
BECAUSE BERNIE SANDERS IS
BECAUSE BERNIE SANDERS IS LEADING A MOVE, HIS SUPPORT --
LEADING A MOVE, HIS SUPPORT --
LEADING A MOVE, HIS SUPPORT -- HIS SUPPORTERS ARE DEVOTED TO
HIS SUPPORTERS ARE DEVOTED TO
HIS SUPPORTERS ARE DEVOTED TO HIM.
HIM.
HIM. THEY'RE NOT EVEN CERTAIN MANY OF
THEY'RE NOT EVEN CERTAIN MANY OF
THEY'RE NOT EVEN CERTAIN MANY OF THEM WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO
THEM WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO
THEM WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS IF
CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS IF
CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS IF HE'S NOT THE NOMINEE.
HE'S NOT THE NOMINEE.
HE'S NOT THE NOMINEE. BIDEN, THERE WERE YOUNGER
BIDEN, THERE WERE YOUNGER
BIDEN, THERE WERE YOUNGER CANDIDATES IN THE RACE, BUT
CANDIDATES IN THE RACE, BUT
CANDIDATES IN THE RACE, BUT BIDEN'S CANDIDACY WAS PERCEIVED
BIDEN'S CANDIDACY WAS PERCEIVED
BIDEN'S CANDIDACY WAS PERCEIVED EARLIER ON TO BE SO STRONG THAT
EARLIER ON TO BE SO STRONG THAT
EARLIER ON TO BE SO STRONG THAT IT ACTUALLY BLOCKED IT BLOCKED
IT ACTUALLY BLOCKED IT BLOCKED
IT ACTUALLY BLOCKED IT BLOCKED BOTH FUNDING AND PARTY
BOTH FUNDING AND PARTY
BOTH FUNDING AND PARTY ESTABLISHMENT ENDORSEMENTS -- IT
ESTABLISHMENT ENDORSEMENTS -- IT
ESTABLISHMENT ENDORSEMENTS -- IT KIND OF CLOUDED THE LANE THAT HE
KIND OF CLOUDED THE LANE THAT HE
KIND OF CLOUDED THE LANE THAT HE WAS IN, SO YOU SAW YOUNGER
WAS IN, SO YOU SAW YOUNGER
WAS IN, SO YOU SAW YOUNGER CANDIDATES, WHO YOU WOULD THINK
CANDIDATES, WHO YOU WOULD THINK
CANDIDATES, WHO YOU WOULD THINK WOULD HAVE TERRIFIC
WOULD HAVE TERRIFIC
WOULD HAVE TERRIFIC OPPORTUNITIES, KAMALA HARRIS,
OPPORTUNITIES, KAMALA HARRIS,
OPPORTUNITIES, KAMALA HARRIS, FOR ONE, CORY BOOKER, DROPPING
FOR ONE, CORY BOOKER, DROPPING
FOR ONE, CORY BOOKER, DROPPING OUT OF THE RACE, AT THE NEVER
OUT OF THE RACE, AT THE NEVER
OUT OF THE RACE, AT THE NEVER EVEN GOT TO IDAHO.
EVEN GOT TO IDAHO.
EVEN GOT TO IDAHO. >> Heather: WHAT IS INTERESTING
>> Heather: WHAT IS INTERESTING
>> Heather: WHAT IS INTERESTING TOO, IS THAT RAISES WHAT WE HAD
TOO, IS THAT RAISES WHAT WE HAD
TOO, IS THAT RAISES WHAT WE HAD IN THE BEGINNING OR WHAT WE SAW
IN THE BEGINNING OR WHAT WE SAW
IN THE BEGINNING OR WHAT WE SAW IN THE BEGINNING, MORE THAN 2
IN THE BEGINNING, MORE THAN 2
IN THE BEGINNING, MORE THAN 2 DOZEN POTENTIAL CANDIDATES,
DOZEN POTENTIAL CANDIDATES,
DOZEN POTENTIAL CANDIDATES, WOMEN, MEN OF COLOUR, DIFFERENT
WOMEN, MEN OF COLOUR, DIFFERENT
WOMEN, MEN OF COLOUR, DIFFERENT AGES, AND IN THE END THE
AGES, AND IN THE END THE
AGES, AND IN THE END THE DEMOCRATS MAY BE LEFT WITH TWO
DEMOCRATS MAY BE LEFT WITH TWO
DEMOCRATS MAY BE LEFT WITH TWO 70 -- YOU KNOW, LATE 70s MEN,
70 -- YOU KNOW, LATE 70s MEN,
70 -- YOU KNOW, LATE 70s MEN, WHITE, AND THIS IS A CONCERN.
WHITE, AND THIS IS A CONCERN.
WHITE, AND THIS IS A CONCERN. TO MANY PEOPLE WITHIN THE PARTY.
TO MANY PEOPLE WITHIN THE PARTY.
TO MANY PEOPLE WITHIN THE PARTY. >> BECAUSE DIVERSITY IS THE
>> BECAUSE DIVERSITY IS THE
>> BECAUSE DIVERSITY IS THE BASIS OF PARTIES, NOT JUST
BASIS OF PARTIES, NOT JUST
BASIS OF PARTIES, NOT JUST AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS, BUT
AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS, BUT
AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE LATINO VOTE,
OBVIOUSLY THE LATINO VOTE,
OBVIOUSLY THE LATINO VOTE, WOMEN, THOSE ARE ALL REALLY
WOMEN, THOSE ARE ALL REALLY
WOMEN, THOSE ARE ALL REALLY MAKING UP THE CORE OF THE
MAKING UP THE CORE OF THE
MAKING UP THE CORE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, SO THAT
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, SO THAT
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, SO THAT DIVERSITY WAS MUCH TOUTED AS
DIVERSITY WAS MUCH TOUTED AS
DIVERSITY WAS MUCH TOUTED AS BEING REPRESENTATIVE OF THE KIND
BEING REPRESENTATIVE OF THE KIND
BEING REPRESENTATIVE OF THE KIND OF PARTY THEY WANT AS A PATH
OF PARTY THEY WANT AS A PATH
OF PARTY THEY WANT AS A PATH FORWARD.
FORWARD.
FORWARD. YES, IT IS A CONCERN.
YES, IT IS A CONCERN.
YES, IT IS A CONCERN. I THINK IT'S A CONCERN ON THE
I THINK IT'S A CONCERN ON THE
I THINK IT'S A CONCERN ON THE GENDER FRONT AS WELL.
GENDER FRONT AS WELL.
GENDER FRONT AS WELL. >> Heather: THEY'RE BUILDING A
>> Heather: THEY'RE BUILDING A
>> Heather: THEY'RE BUILDING A COALITION BEHIND US I THINK.
COALITION BEHIND US I THINK.
COALITION BEHIND US I THINK. EVEN AS WE SPEAK.
EVEN AS WE SPEAK.
EVEN AS WE SPEAK. MULTIGENERATIONAL COALITION
MULTIGENERATIONAL COALITION
MULTIGENERATIONAL COALITION BUILDING GOING ON BEHIND US.
BUILDING GOING ON BEHIND US.
BUILDING GOING ON BEHIND US. >> Heather: LISTEN, AS YOU TALK
>> Heather: LISTEN, AS YOU TALK
>> Heather: LISTEN, AS YOU TALK ABOUT THAT, THOUGH, YOUR POINT
ABOUT THAT, THOUGH, YOUR POINT
ABOUT THAT, THOUGH, YOUR POINT EARLIER ABOUT THE KEY PICK, OF
EARLIER ABOUT THE KEY PICK, OF
EARLIER ABOUT THE KEY PICK, OF WHO IS ON THE TICKET, IF IT IS
WHO IS ON THE TICKET, IF IT IS
WHO IS ON THE TICKET, IF IT IS ONE OF THOSE MEN, THAT A
ONE OF THOSE MEN, THAT A
ONE OF THOSE MEN, THAT A QUESTION, BOB FROM HE
QUESTION, BOB FROM HE
QUESTION, BOB FROM HE WOULDENBURG NEAR KINGSTON,
WOULDENBURG NEAR KINGSTON,
WOULDENBURG NEAR KINGSTON, ONTARIO, AND ALSO DREW IN TERMS
ONTARIO, AND ALSO DREW IN TERMS
ONTARIO, AND ALSO DREW IN TERMS OF -- WELL, SPECIFICALLY, SHOULD
OF -- WELL, SPECIFICALLY, SHOULD
OF -- WELL, SPECIFICALLY, SHOULD BIDEN WIN WHO SHOULD BE HIS
BIDEN WIN WHO SHOULD BE HIS
BIDEN WIN WHO SHOULD BE HIS RUNNINGMATE, BUT BOB COMING WITH
RUNNINGMATE, BUT BOB COMING WITH
RUNNINGMATE, BUT BOB COMING WITH AN INTERESTING QUESTION SWB
AN INTERESTING QUESTION SWB
AN INTERESTING QUESTION SWB THERE ANYTHING IN THE U.S.
THERE ANYTHING IN THE U.S.
THERE ANYTHING IN THE U.S. CONSTITUTION TO PREVENT BIDEN'S
CONSTITUTION TO PREVENT BIDEN'S
CONSTITUTION TO PREVENT BIDEN'S CHOOSING BARACK OBAMA TO BE HIS
CHOOSING BARACK OBAMA TO BE HIS
CHOOSING BARACK OBAMA TO BE HIS VICE PRESIDENTIAL RUNNINGMATE?
VICE PRESIDENTIAL RUNNINGMATE?
VICE PRESIDENTIAL RUNNINGMATE? MAYBE THAT'S A LITTLE TONGUE IN
MAYBE THAT'S A LITTLE TONGUE IN
MAYBE THAT'S A LITTLE TONGUE IN CHEEK.
CHEEK.
CHEEK. IT CERTAINLY COULD BE
IT CERTAINLY COULD BE
IT CERTAINLY COULD BE UNPRECEDENTED.
UNPRECEDENTED.
UNPRECEDENTED. BUT SURMISE -- IT WOULD BE A
BUT SURMISE -- IT WOULD BE A
BUT SURMISE -- IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT PUCK FOR SANDERS,
DIFFERENT PUCK FOR SANDERS,
DIFFERENT PUCK FOR SANDERS, OBVIOUSLY, THAN FOR BIDEN, BUT
OBVIOUSLY, THAN FOR BIDEN, BUT
OBVIOUSLY, THAN FOR BIDEN, BUT WHO WOULD THEY BE LOOKING AT A
WHO WOULD THEY BE LOOKING AT A
WHO WOULD THEY BE LOOKING AT A PICK?
PICK?
PICK? >> JOE BIDEN HAS TO BE LOOKING
>> JOE BIDEN HAS TO BE LOOKING
>> JOE BIDEN HAS TO BE LOOKING AT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTE
AT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTE
AT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTE BECAUSE THEY JUST SAVED THEIR
BECAUSE THEY JUST SAVED THEIR
BECAUSE THEY JUST SAVED THEIR CAMPAIGN?
CAMPAIGN?
CAMPAIGN? >> Heather: KAMALA HARRIS,
>> Heather: KAMALA HARRIS,
>> Heather: KAMALA HARRIS, STACEY ABRAMS?
STACEY ABRAMS?
STACEY ABRAMS? >> THOSE WOULD BE AT THE TOP OF
>> THOSE WOULD BE AT THE TOP OF
>> THOSE WOULD BE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.
THE LIST.
THE LIST. >> WOMEN OF COLOUR.
>> WOMEN OF COLOUR.
>> WOMEN OF COLOUR. >> I DON'T SEE A LOT OF
>> I DON'T SEE A LOT OF
>> I DON'T SEE A LOT OF SPECULATION ABOUT WHO BERNIE
SPECULATION ABOUT WHO BERNIE
SPECULATION ABOUT WHO BERNIE SANDERS SHOULD CHOOSE BUT
SANDERS SHOULD CHOOSE BUT
SANDERS SHOULD CHOOSE BUT CLEARLY HE HAS A BALANCE TO
CLEARLY HE HAS A BALANCE TO
CLEARLY HE HAS A BALANCE TO CONSIDER.
CONSIDER.
CONSIDER. IF HE SUDDENLY HAS THE LEADER OF
IF HE SUDDENLY HAS THE LEADER OF
IF HE SUDDENLY HAS THE LEADER OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, HE HAS TO
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, HE HAS TO
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, HE HAS TO STOP CALLING THEM THEM, THOSE
STOP CALLING THEM THEM, THOSE
STOP CALLING THEM THEM, THOSE PEOPLE, ALL THAT, THEY ARE NOW
PEOPLE, ALL THAT, THEY ARE NOW
PEOPLE, ALL THAT, THEY ARE NOW HIS PEOPLE AND HE HAS TO DO
HIS PEOPLE AND HE HAS TO DO
HIS PEOPLE AND HE HAS TO DO SOMETHING TO DEMONSTRATE THAT.
SOMETHING TO DEMONSTRATE THAT.
SOMETHING TO DEMONSTRATE THAT. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE WISE
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE WISE
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE WISE FOR HIM TO GO OUTSIDE THE PARTY
FOR HIM TO GO OUTSIDE THE PARTY
FOR HIM TO GO OUTSIDE THE PARTY AND CHOOSE A RUNNING MATE AFTER
AND CHOOSE A RUNNING MATE AFTER
AND CHOOSE A RUNNING MATE AFTER THIS ELECTION, SO HE'LL LOOK
THIS ELECTION, SO HE'LL LOOK
THIS ELECTION, SO HE'LL LOOK WITHIN THE PARTY, BUT HE ALSO
WITHIN THE PARTY, BUT HE ALSO
WITHIN THE PARTY, BUT HE ALSO HAS THE BALANCE IN TERMS OF
HAS THE BALANCE IN TERMS OF
HAS THE BALANCE IN TERMS OF GENDER AND HE ALSO HAS TO BE
GENDER AND HE ALSO HAS TO BE
GENDER AND HE ALSO HAS TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN
CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN
CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN THE PRIMARIES HAVE SHOWN THAT HE
THE PRIMARIES HAVE SHOWN THAT HE
THE PRIMARIES HAVE SHOWN THAT HE DOES HAVE A PROBLEM.
DOES HAVE A PROBLEM.
DOES HAVE A PROBLEM. >>.
>>.
>>. >> Question: SO IT LOOKS LIKE A
>> Question: SO IT LOOKS LIKE A
>> Question: SO IT LOOKS LIKE A WOMAN, A YOUNGER WOMAN, AND
WOMAN, A YOUNGER WOMAN, AND
WOMAN, A YOUNGER WOMAN, AND MAYBE A WOMAN OF COLOUR IN BOTH
MAYBE A WOMAN OF COLOUR IN BOTH
MAYBE A WOMAN OF COLOUR IN BOTH CASES.
CASES.
CASES. POTENTIALLY.
POTENTIALLY.
POTENTIALLY. THEY MAY BE LOOKING AS THEY
THEY MAY BE LOOKING AS THEY
THEY MAY BE LOOKING AS THEY ASSESS THINGS GOING FORWARD.
ASSESS THINGS GOING FORWARD.
ASSESS THINGS GOING FORWARD. A GREAT WE FROM JEANINE
A GREAT WE FROM JEANINE
A GREAT WE FROM JEANINE PATTERSON, WE TALKED TO HER ON
PATTERSON, WE TALKED TO HER ON
PATTERSON, WE TALKED TO HER ON SUPER TUESDAY, OUR APOLOGIES FOR
SUPER TUESDAY, OUR APOLOGIES FOR
SUPER TUESDAY, OUR APOLOGIES FOR THAT, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF THE
THAT, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF THE
THAT, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON OUTSIDE
CONSTRUCTION GOING ON OUTSIDE
CONSTRUCTION GOING ON OUTSIDE YOUR LINE OF SIGHT.
YOUR LINE OF SIGHT.
YOUR LINE OF SIGHT. BUT THERE'S A CREW VERY ACTIVELY
BUT THERE'S A CREW VERY ACTIVELY
BUT THERE'S A CREW VERY ACTIVELY BUILDING SCAFFOLDING.
BUILDING SCAFFOLDING.
BUILDING SCAFFOLDING. JANINE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO
JANINE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO
JANINE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO THE SUPERDELEGATES ARE AND THEIR
THE SUPERDELEGATES ARE AND THEIR
THE SUPERDELEGATES ARE AND THEIR ROLE IN A CONTENTION SHOULD IT
ROLE IN A CONTENTION SHOULD IT
ROLE IN A CONTENTION SHOULD IT BE CONTESTED AND THIS IS A VERY
BE CONTESTED AND THIS IS A VERY
BE CONTESTED AND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION BECAUSE THE
IMPORTANT QUESTION BECAUSE THE
IMPORTANT QUESTION BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS CHANGED FOR THIS
DEMOCRATS CHANGED FOR THIS
DEMOCRATS CHANGED FOR THIS PRIMARY CYCLE.
PRIMARY CYCLE.
PRIMARY CYCLE. SUPERDELEGATES, YOU'LL EXPLAIN
SUPERDELEGATES, YOU'LL EXPLAIN
SUPERDELEGATES, YOU'LL EXPLAIN WHO THEY ARE.
WHO THEY ARE.
WHO THEY ARE. >> SUPERDELEGATES ARE INSIDE THE
>> SUPERDELEGATES ARE INSIDE THE
>> SUPERDELEGATES ARE INSIDE THE PARTY, PARTY INSIDERS, FORMER
PARTY, PARTY INSIDERS, FORMER
PARTY, PARTY INSIDERS, FORMER ELECTED OFFICIALS, IT USED TO BE
ELECTED OFFICIALS, IT USED TO BE
ELECTED OFFICIALS, IT USED TO BE THEY WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE ON
THEY WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE ON
THEY WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE ON THE FIRST BALLOT, BUT REMEMBER
THE FIRST BALLOT, BUT REMEMBER
THE FIRST BALLOT, BUT REMEMBER ALL THAT CONCERN ABOUT THE POWER
ALL THAT CONCERN ABOUT THE POWER
ALL THAT CONCERN ABOUT THE POWER THAT THE DELEGATES HAD IN THE
THAT THE DELEGATES HAD IN THE
THAT THE DELEGATES HAD IN THE NOMINATION FOR HILLARY CLINTON,
NOMINATION FOR HILLARY CLINTON,
NOMINATION FOR HILLARY CLINTON, THAT IS BACK, SO NOW THEY WILL
THAT IS BACK, SO NOW THEY WILL
THAT IS BACK, SO NOW THEY WILL NOT BE INVOLVED UNTIL THE
NOT BE INVOLVED UNTIL THE
NOT BE INVOLVED UNTIL THE SECOND --
SECOND --
SECOND -- >> THE PERCEPTION WOULD BE THAT
>> THE PERCEPTION WOULD BE THAT
>> THE PERCEPTION WOULD BE THAT THEY ARE ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRATS
THEY ARE ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRATS
THEY ARE ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRATS AND THEY WANT THEIR
AND THEY WANT THEIR
AND THEY WANT THEIR ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE IF THEY
ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE IF THEY
ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE IF THEY LESSEN THEIR POWER BY HAVING TO
LESSEN THEIR POWER BY HAVING TO
LESSEN THEIR POWER BY HAVING TO ON THE VOTE IN SECOND ROUND,
ON THE VOTE IN SECOND ROUND,
ON THE VOTE IN SECOND ROUND, THIRD ROUND, OR WHATEVER IT
THIRD ROUND, OR WHATEVER IT
THIRD ROUND, OR WHATEVER IT TAKES, HAS THAT GONE OVER WELL?
TAKES, HAS THAT GONE OVER WELL?
TAKES, HAS THAT GONE OVER WELL? >> FIRST, I MEAN, THIS HAPPENED
>> FIRST, I MEAN, THIS HAPPENED
>> FIRST, I MEAN, THIS HAPPENED IN THE CANADIAN LEADERSHIP
IN THE CANADIAN LEADERSHIP
IN THE CANADIAN LEADERSHIP CONTEXT AS WELL.
CONTEXT AS WELL.
CONTEXT AS WELL. YOU GO TO A LEADERSHIP
YOU GO TO A LEADERSHIP
YOU GO TO A LEADERSHIP CONVENTION AND YOU HAVE THE
CONVENTION AND YOU HAVE THE
CONVENTION AND YOU HAVE THE ELECTED DELEGATES THERE, BUT YOU
ELECTED DELEGATES THERE, BUT YOU
ELECTED DELEGATES THERE, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE EVERY MEMBER OF
ALSO HAVE EVERY MEMBER OF
ALSO HAVE EVERY MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT WHO'S A MEMBER OF
PARLIAMENT WHO'S A MEMBER OF
PARLIAMENT WHO'S A MEMBER OF THAT PARTY, YOU HAVE EX-TO
THAT PARTY, YOU HAVE EX-TO
THAT PARTY, YOU HAVE EX-TO OFFCIO MEMBERS OF THIS, THAT,
OFFCIO MEMBERS OF THIS, THAT,
OFFCIO MEMBERS OF THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER THING, PEOPLE WHO
AND THE OTHER THING, PEOPLE WHO
AND THE OTHER THING, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO OFFICE HAVE
HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO OFFICE HAVE
HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO OFFICE HAVE A VOTE IN THE LEADERSHIP
A VOTE IN THE LEADERSHIP
A VOTE IN THE LEADERSHIP CONVENTION.
CONVENTION.
CONVENTION. SAME THING HERE.
SAME THING HERE.
SAME THING HERE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE PARTY
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE PARTY
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE PARTY HAS HAD FOR A LONG TIME SINCE
HAS HAD FOR A LONG TIME SINCE
HAS HAD FOR A LONG TIME SINCE 1968, REALLY, A KIND OF BAD
1968, REALLY, A KIND OF BAD
1968, REALLY, A KIND OF BAD REPUTATION FOR TRYING TO MANAGE
REPUTATION FOR TRYING TO MANAGE
REPUTATION FOR TRYING TO MANAGE THE WHOLE THING, AND OFTEN
THE WHOLE THING, AND OFTEN
THE WHOLE THING, AND OFTEN SUCCESSFULLY BEHIND THE SCENES,
SUCCESSFULLY BEHIND THE SCENES,
SUCCESSFULLY BEHIND THE SCENES, AND SO IT CARRIES WITH IT A
AND SO IT CARRIES WITH IT A
AND SO IT CARRIES WITH IT A STIGMA, PERHAPS NOT FAIR STIGMA,
STIGMA, PERHAPS NOT FAIR STIGMA,
STIGMA, PERHAPS NOT FAIR STIGMA, THAT SUPERDELEGATES HAVE AN
THAT SUPERDELEGATES HAVE AN
THAT SUPERDELEGATES HAVE AN IMPACT AND COULD PLAY A DECISIVE
IMPACT AND COULD PLAY A DECISIVE
IMPACT AND COULD PLAY A DECISIVE ROLE WHO WIND UP BEING THE
ROLE WHO WIND UP BEING THE
ROLE WHO WIND UP BEING THE NOMINEE.
NOMINEE.
NOMINEE. OBVIOUSLY FOR A CANADIAN WHO HAS
OBVIOUSLY FOR A CANADIAN WHO HAS
OBVIOUSLY FOR A CANADIAN WHO HAS COVERED A LOT OF THESE THINGS, I
COVERED A LOT OF THESE THINGS, I
COVERED A LOT OF THESE THINGS, I THINK WE MIGHT FIND THAT STIGMA
THINK WE MIGHT FIND THAT STIGMA
THINK WE MIGHT FIND THAT STIGMA A LITTLE STRANGE.
A LITTLE STRANGE.
A LITTLE STRANGE. ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN THE
ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN THE
ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, MOSTLY THEY'VE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, MOSTLY THEY'VE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, MOSTLY THEY'VE BEEN ELECTED TO SOMETHING AT
BEEN ELECTED TO SOMETHING AT
BEEN ELECTED TO SOMETHING AT SOME TIME.
SOME TIME.
SOME TIME. IT'S NOT LIKE -- IT'S NOT LIKE
IT'S NOT LIKE -- IT'S NOT LIKE
IT'S NOT LIKE -- IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE STRANGERS TO THE PROCESS
THEY'RE STRANGERS TO THE PROCESS
THEY'RE STRANGERS TO THE PROCESS OR --
OR --
OR -- >> Heather: OR APPOINTED OR
>> Heather: OR APPOINTED OR
>> Heather: OR APPOINTED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> BUT THEY HAVE ATTRACTD THE
>> BUT THEY HAVE ATTRACTD THE
>> BUT THEY HAVE ATTRACTD THE STIGMA.
STIGMA.
STIGMA. >> AND IT WILL BE HARDER FOR
>> AND IT WILL BE HARDER FOR
>> AND IT WILL BE HARDER FOR BERNIE SANDERS TO CRITICIZE THE
BERNIE SANDERS TO CRITICIZE THE
BERNIE SANDERS TO CRITICIZE THE PROCESS IF THEY DO GET TO THAT
PROCESS IF THEY DO GET TO THAT
PROCESS IF THEY DO GET TO THAT STAGE IN THIS CONTEST BECAUSE HE
STAGE IN THIS CONTEST BECAUSE HE
STAGE IN THIS CONTEST BECAUSE HE WAS PART OF THE RULE CHANGES.
WAS PART OF THE RULE CHANGES.
WAS PART OF THE RULE CHANGES. SO THAT BACK AND FORTH OVER
SO THAT BACK AND FORTH OVER
SO THAT BACK AND FORTH OVER SUPERDELEGATES, IT'S HARD TO SAY
SUPERDELEGATES, IT'S HARD TO SAY
SUPERDELEGATES, IT'S HARD TO SAY THE RULES ARE RIGGED AGAINST YOU
THE RULES ARE RIGGED AGAINST YOU
THE RULES ARE RIGGED AGAINST YOU WHEN YOU WERE PART OF CREATING
WHEN YOU WERE PART OF CREATING
WHEN YOU WERE PART OF CREATING THE RULES.
THE RULES.
THE RULES. >> Heather: SO BERNIE SUPPORTERS
>> Heather: SO BERNIE SUPPORTERS
>> Heather: SO BERNIE SUPPORTERS FEEL LIKE THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY
FEEL LIKE THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY
FEEL LIKE THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM AND IT WAS RIGGED,
FROM THEM AND IT WAS RIGGED,
FROM THEM AND IT WAS RIGGED, THAT HE WAS ROBBED AS A RESULT
THAT HE WAS ROBBED AS A RESULT
THAT HE WAS ROBBED AS A RESULT OF THAT IN 2016, SO WE'LL SEE IF
OF THAT IN 2016, SO WE'LL SEE IF
OF THAT IN 2016, SO WE'LL SEE IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE.
IT BECOMES AN ISSUE.
IT BECOMES AN ISSUE. GREAT QUESTION FROM DEE JONES ON
GREAT QUESTION FROM DEE JONES ON
YOUTUBE, AND WE THANK YOU FOR
YOUTUBE, AND WE THANK YOU FOR
YOUTUBE, AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT, AS WE CONTINUE TO WATCH
THAT, AS WE CONTINUE TO WATCH
THAT, AS WE CONTINUE TO WATCH THIS ON YOUTUBE AND THE CBC
THIS ON YOUTUBE AND THE CBC
THIS ON YOUTUBE AND THE CBC CHANNEL ON FACEBOOK AND CBC NEWS
CHANNEL ON FACEBOOK AND CBC NEWS
CHANNEL ON FACEBOOK AND CBC NEWS NETWORK, HAD ELIZABETH WARREN
NETWORK, HAD ELIZABETH WARREN
NETWORK, HAD ELIZABETH WARREN DROPPED OUT LIKE AMY KLOBUCHAR
DROPPED OUT LIKE AMY KLOBUCHAR
DROPPED OUT LIKE AMY KLOBUCHAR DID, LIKE PETE BUTTIGIEG DID,
DID, LIKE PETE BUTTIGIEG DID,
DID, LIKE PETE BUTTIGIEG DID, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE RESULTS
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE RESULTS
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE RESULTS WOULD LOOK LIKE TODAY?
WOULD LOOK LIKE TODAY?
WOULD LOOK LIKE TODAY? >> IT'S JUST A GUESS.
>> IT'S JUST A GUESS.
>> IT'S JUST A GUESS. >> Heather: WHAT'S YOUR GUESS?
>> Heather: WHAT'S YOUR GUESS?
>> Heather: WHAT'S YOUR GUESS? >> I THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE
>> I THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE
>> I THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE WITH WARREN -- I MEAN, THIS
WITH WARREN -- I MEAN, THIS
WITH WARREN -- I MEAN, THIS SOUNDS BLATANTLY OBVIOUS --
SOUNDS BLATANTLY OBVIOUS --
SOUNDS BLATANTLY OBVIOUS -- THEY'RE WITH WARREN, THAT'S NOT
THEY'RE WITH WARREN, THAT'S NOT
THEY'RE WITH WARREN, THAT'S NOT WITH SANDERS, RIGHT?
WITH SANDERS, RIGHT?
WITH SANDERS, RIGHT? BUT I THINK IN THIS INSTANCE,
BUT I THINK IN THIS INSTANCE,
BUT I THINK IN THIS INSTANCE, THAT'S MEANINGFUL.
THAT'S MEANINGFUL.
THAT'S MEANINGFUL. I THINK THAT THERE'S PROBABLY
I THINK THAT THERE'S PROBABLY
I THINK THAT THERE'S PROBABLY LESS LIKELIHOOD OF THEM CROSSING
LESS LIKELIHOOD OF THEM CROSSING
LESS LIKELIHOOD OF THEM CROSSING OVER WITH SANDERS THAN IT MIGHT
OVER WITH SANDERS THAN IT MIGHT
OVER WITH SANDERS THAN IT MIGHT APPEAR TO BE JUST BY LOOKING AT
APPEAR TO BE JUST BY LOOKING AT
APPEAR TO BE JUST BY LOOKING AT WHICH LANE THEY'RE IN IN TERMS
WHICH LANE THEY'RE IN IN TERMS
WHICH LANE THEY'RE IN IN TERMS OF THEIR POLICIES.
OF THEIR POLICIES.
OF THEIR POLICIES. BUT ALSO I THINK JUST ONE THING
BUT ALSO I THINK JUST ONE THING
BUT ALSO I THINK JUST ONE THING WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED IS THAT
WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED IS THAT
WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF BALLOTS THAT
THERE ARE A LOT OF BALLOTS THAT
THERE ARE A LOT OF BALLOTS THAT IS RIGHT CAST IN ADVANCE OF ALL
IS RIGHT CAST IN ADVANCE OF ALL
IS RIGHT CAST IN ADVANCE OF ALL OF THE EVIDENCE OF LAST WEEKEND.
OF THE EVIDENCE OF LAST WEEKEND.
OF THE EVIDENCE OF LAST WEEKEND. RIGHT?
RIGHT?
RIGHT? SO PEOPLE WERE VOTING FOR --
SO PEOPLE WERE VOTING FOR --
SO PEOPLE WERE VOTING FOR -- >> MORE THAN MILLIONS OF
>> MORE THAN MILLIONS OF
>> MORE THAN MILLIONS OF BALLOTS.
BALLOTS.
BALLOTS. >> PEOPLE WHO WERE NO LONGER ON
>> PEOPLE WHO WERE NO LONGER ON
>> PEOPLE WHO WERE NO LONGER ON THE BALLOT.
THE BALLOT.
THE BALLOT. WE DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE ARE
WE DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE ARE
WE DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE ARE GOING TO DIVIDE UP BEFORE WE
GOING TO DIVIDE UP BEFORE WE
GOING TO DIVIDE UP BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO DIVIDING UP THE
EVEN GET TO DIVIDING UP THE
EVEN GET TO DIVIDING UP THE WARRENS.
WARRENS.
WARRENS. >> GOOD POINT.
>> GOOD POINT.
>> GOOD POINT. THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTION TO
THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTION TO
THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTION TO HAD PEOPLE VOTED EARLY BEFORE
HAD PEOPLE VOTED EARLY BEFORE
HAD PEOPLE VOTED EARLY BEFORE THE DECISIVE WIN FOR JOE BIDEN,
THE DECISIVE WIN FOR JOE BIDEN,
THE DECISIVE WIN FOR JOE BIDEN, THEY MIGHT HAVE CHOSEN SOMEONE
THEY MIGHT HAVE CHOSEN SOMEONE
THEY MIGHT HAVE CHOSEN SOMEONE ELSE BASED ON HIS WEAKER EARLY
ELSE BASED ON HIS WEAKER EARLY
ELSE BASED ON HIS WEAKER EARLY PERFORMANCES AND MAYBE HE
PERFORMANCES AND MAYBE HE
PERFORMANCES AND MAYBE HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CAPITALIZE ON SOUTH CAROLINA IN
CAPITALIZE ON SOUTH CAROLINA IN
CAPITALIZE ON SOUTH CAROLINA IN THE SAME WAY.
THE SAME WAY.
THE SAME WAY. >> AS SOON AS THE EARLY VOTES IN
>> AS SOON AS THE EARLY VOTES IN
>> AS SOON AS THE EARLY VOTES IN CALIFORNIA WERE CAST, THE SAME
CALIFORNIA WERE CAST, THE SAME
CALIFORNIA WERE CAST, THE SAME DAY AS THE iIOWA CAUCUSES, SO IF
DAY AS THE iIOWA CAUCUSES, SO IF
DAY AS THE iIOWA CAUCUSES, SO IF YOU WERE REALLY EAGER AND KNEW
YOU WERE REALLY EAGER AND KNEW
YOU WERE REALLY EAGER AND KNEW WHO YOUR PERSON WAS, YOU WOULD
WHO YOUR PERSON WAS, YOU WOULD
WHO YOUR PERSON WAS, YOU WOULD HAVE MISSED A LOT OF DIFFERENT
HAVE MISSED A LOT OF DIFFERENT
HAVE MISSED A LOT OF DIFFERENT NARRATIVES AND STORYLINE.
NARRATIVES AND STORYLINE.
NARRATIVES AND STORYLINE. >> Heather: THAT IS TRUE.
>> Heather: THAT IS TRUE.
>> Heather: THAT IS TRUE. JUST IN TERMS OF SOME TECHNICAL
JUST IN TERMS OF SOME TECHNICAL
JUST IN TERMS OF SOME TECHNICAL THINGS, AS WE GET CLOSE TO
THINGS, AS WE GET CLOSE TO
THINGS, AS WE GET CLOSE TO WRAPPING UP, THANK YOU FOR THE
WRAPPING UP, THANK YOU FOR THE
WRAPPING UP, THANK YOU FOR THE FANTASTIC QUESTIONS AND ALL YOUR
FANTASTIC QUESTIONS AND ALL YOUR
FANTASTIC QUESTIONS AND ALL YOUR AMAZING INSIGHT, BUT WE ARE
AMAZING INSIGHT, BUT WE ARE
AMAZING INSIGHT, BUT WE ARE WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT --
WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT --
WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT -- THERE'S TWO.
THERE'S TWO.
THERE'S TWO. LET'S DO TWO QUICKLY.
LET'S DO TWO QUICKLY.
LET'S DO TWO QUICKLY. BECAUSE THIS IS INTERESTING.
BECAUSE THIS IS INTERESTING.
BECAUSE THIS IS INTERESTING. ON FACEBOOK, E. BRACKENRIDGE
ON FACEBOOK, E. BRACKENRIDGE
ON FACEBOOK, E. BRACKENRIDGE WONDERING WHO GETS TO VOTE IN
WONDERING WHO GETS TO VOTE IN
WONDERING WHO GETS TO VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES, ARE THEY
THE PRIMARIES, ARE THEY
THE PRIMARIES, ARE THEY REGISTERED DEMOCRATS AND ARE
REGISTERED DEMOCRATS AND ARE
REGISTERED DEMOCRATS AND ARE THEY GENERAL POPULATION, AND
THEY GENERAL POPULATION, AND
THEY GENERAL POPULATION, AND THAT TO STAY, I THINK I CAN
THAT TO STAY, I THINK I CAN
THAT TO STAY, I THINK I CAN ANSWER THIS, SOMETIMES THEY'RE
ANSWER THIS, SOMETIMES THEY'RE
ANSWER THIS, SOMETIMES THEY'RE CLOSED, DEMOCRATS ONLY, BUT
CLOSED, DEMOCRATS ONLY, BUT
CLOSED, DEMOCRATS ONLY, BUT SOMETIME THEY'RE ALLOWED FOR
SOMETIME THEY'RE ALLOWED FOR
SOMETIME THEY'RE ALLOWED FOR DEMOCRATS AND INDEPENDENTS.
DEMOCRATS AND INDEPENDENTS.
DEMOCRATS AND INDEPENDENTS. SOMETIMES IT'S OPEN WHEN IT CAN
SOMETIMES IT'S OPEN WHEN IT CAN
SOMETIMES IT'S OPEN WHEN IT CAN BE ANYBODY.
BE ANYBODY.
BE ANYBODY. >> EVEN REPUBLICAN CAN COME IN.
>> EVEN REPUBLICAN CAN COME IN.
>> EVEN REPUBLICAN CAN COME IN. THERE'S A LOT OF SPECULATION
THERE'S A LOT OF SPECULATION
THERE'S A LOT OF SPECULATION ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S A SPOILER,
ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S A SPOILER,
ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S A SPOILER, LIKE, YOU PICK THE PERSON YOU
LIKE, YOU PICK THE PERSON YOU
LIKE, YOU PICK THE PERSON YOU THINK THE REPUBLICAN WOULD HAVE
THINK THE REPUBLICAN WOULD HAVE
THINK THE REPUBLICAN WOULD HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF BEATING.
THE BEST CHANCE OF BEATING.
THE BEST CHANCE OF BEATING. >> Heather: COULDN'T IT BE
>> Heather: COULDN'T IT BE
>> Heather: COULDN'T IT BE INTERESTING, BECAUSE WOULD IT
INTERESTING, BECAUSE WOULD IT
INTERESTING, BECAUSE WOULD IT NOT GIVE YOU AN INDICATION OF
NOT GIVE YOU AN INDICATION OF
NOT GIVE YOU AN INDICATION OF WHICH CANDIDATE MIGHT HAVE THE
WHICH CANDIDATE MIGHT HAVE THE
WHICH CANDIDATE MIGHT HAVE THE GREATER CROSSOVER APPEAL IF
GREATER CROSSOVER APPEAL IF
GREATER CROSSOVER APPEAL IF YOU'RE IN AN OPEN STATE AND YOU
YOU'RE IN AN OPEN STATE AND YOU
YOU'RE IN AN OPEN STATE AND YOU CAN APPEAL THE INDEPENDENTS AND
CAN APPEAL THE INDEPENDENTS AND
CAN APPEAL THE INDEPENDENTS AND REPUBLICANS POTENTIALLY?
REPUBLICANS POTENTIALLY?
REPUBLICANS POTENTIALLY? OR NO.
OR NO.
OR NO. >> LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN SOUTH
>> LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN SOUTH
>> LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN SOUTH CAROLINA WITH THE TRUMP
CAROLINA WITH THE TRUMP
CAROLINA WITH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, URGED ITS OWN PEOPLE,
CAMPAIGN, URGED ITS OWN PEOPLE,
CAMPAIGN, URGED ITS OWN PEOPLE, REPUBLICANS AND IN SOUTH
REPUBLICANS AND IN SOUTH
CAROLINA, VOTE FOR BERNIE
CAROLINA, VOTE FOR BERNIE
CAROLINA, VOTE FOR BERNIE SANDERS.
SANDERS.
SANDERS. LIKE, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF --
LIKE, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF --
LIKE, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF -- >> Heather: A LOT GOING ON.
>> Heather: A LOT GOING ON.
>> Heather: A LOT GOING ON. >> THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO BE
>> THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO BE
>> THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MANIPULATE.
ABLE TO MANIPULATE.
ABLE TO MANIPULATE. I AM SKEPTICAL ABOUT HOW MUCH OF
I AM SKEPTICAL ABOUT HOW MUCH OF
I AM SKEPTICAL ABOUT HOW MUCH OF THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS. LET ME REMIND YOU BECAUSE I
LET ME REMIND YOU BECAUSE I
LET ME REMIND YOU BECAUSE I THINK IT'S FUN TO REMEMBER, IN
THINK IT'S FUN TO REMEMBER, IN
THINK IT'S FUN TO REMEMBER, IN 2016 IN YORK, WHICH IS NOT AN
2016 IN YORK, WHICH IS NOT AN
2016 IN YORK, WHICH IS NOT AN OPEN PRIMARY, IT'S CLOSED,
OPEN PRIMARY, IT'S CLOSED,
OPEN PRIMARY, IT'S CLOSED, YOU'VE GOT TO BE REGISTERED,
YOU'VE GOT TO BE REGISTERED,
YOU'VE GOT TO BE REGISTERED, TRUMP'S KIDS COULDN'T VOTE
TRUMP'S KIDS COULDN'T VOTE
TRUMP'S KIDS COULDN'T VOTE BECAUSE THEY FORGOT TO REGISTER.
BECAUSE THEY FORGOT TO REGISTER.
BECAUSE THEY FORGOT TO REGISTER. >> Heather: I REMEMBER THAT.
>> Heather: I REMEMBER THAT.
>> Heather: I REMEMBER THAT. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. >> IVANKA TRUMP IS NOW A
>> IVANKA TRUMP IS NOW A
>> IVANKA TRUMP IS NOW A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN.
REGISTERED REPUBLICAN.
REGISTERED REPUBLICAN. BUT SHE WAS NOT.
BUT SHE WAS NOT.
BUT SHE WAS NOT. >> Heather: WE TALKED ABOUT THAT
>> Heather: WE TALKED ABOUT THAT
>> Heather: WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT THE TIME.
AT THE TIME.
AT THE TIME. >> SHE WAS NOT FOUR YEARS AGO,
>> SHE WAS NOT FOUR YEARS AGO,
>> SHE WAS NOT FOUR YEARS AGO, BUT SHE IS NOW.
BUT SHE IS NOW.
BUT SHE IS NOW. >> Heather: SO REMAINING STATES
>> Heather: SO REMAINING STATES
>> Heather: SO REMAINING STATES IS A BIG SERIES OF STATES, ONE
IS A BIG SERIES OF STATES, ONE
IS A BIG SERIES OF STATES, ONE WEEK AGO YESTERDAY, THE 10th,
WEEK AGO YESTERDAY, THE 10th,
WEEK AGO YESTERDAY, THE 10th, THE NOMINEES DECLARED WHEN HE
THE NOMINEES DECLARED WHEN HE
THE NOMINEES DECLARED WHEN HE LOOKS LIKE REACHES THAT MAJORITY
LOOKS LIKE REACHES THAT MAJORITY
LOOKS LIKE REACHES THAT MAJORITY THRESHOLD, 1,991 DELEGATES,
THRESHOLD, 1,991 DELEGATES,
THRESHOLD, 1,991 DELEGATES, WHATEVER THAT COMES BEFORE THE
WHATEVER THAT COMES BEFORE THE
WHATEVER THAT COMES BEFORE THE CONVENTION OR AFTER IN A
CONVENTION OR AFTER IN A
CONVENTION OR AFTER IN A CONTESTED CONVENTION OR THE
CONTESTED CONVENTION OR THE
CONTESTED CONVENTION OR THE MAGIC NUMBER.
MAGIC NUMBER.
MAGIC NUMBER. HERE'S THE LAST QUESTION, IT'S
HERE'S THE LAST QUESTION, IT'S
HERE'S THE LAST QUESTION, IT'S A
A
A GOODI, TECHNICALLY COULD BERNIE
GOODI, TECHNICALLY COULD BERNIE
GOODI, TECHNICALLY COULD BERNIE SANDERS RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT
SANDERS RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT
SANDERS RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE FOR THE PRESIDENCY IF
CANDIDATE FOR THE PRESIDENCY IF
CANDIDATE FOR THE PRESIDENCY IF HE DOESN'T GET THE DEMOCRATIC
HE DOESN'T GET THE DEMOCRATIC
HE DOESN'T GET THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION?
NOMINATION?
NOMINATION? HE IS ESSENTIALLY -- HE'S A
HE IS ESSENTIALLY -- HE'S A
HE IS ESSENTIALLY -- HE'S A DEMOCRAT BUT HE HOLDS HIMSELF AS
DEMOCRAT BUT HE HOLDS HIMSELF AS
DEMOCRAT BUT HE HOLDS HIMSELF AS AN INDEPENDENT
AN INDEPENDENT
AN INDEPENDENT >> HE'S ALREADY REGISTERED AS AN
>> HE'S ALREADY REGISTERED AS AN
>> HE'S ALREADY REGISTERED AS AN INDEPENDENT TO RUN FOR
INDEPENDENT TO RUN FOR
INDEPENDENT TO RUN FOR REELECTION IN THE SENATE IN
REELECTION IN THE SENATE IN
REELECTION IN THE SENATE IN 2024.
2024.
2024. HE IS AN INDEPENDENT.
HE IS AN INDEPENDENT.
HE IS AN INDEPENDENT. AT SOME POINT IT WOULD BE TOO
AT SOME POINT IT WOULD BE TOO
AT SOME POINT IT WOULD BE TOO LATE FOR HIM TO GET IN THE
LATE FOR HIM TO GET IN THE
LATE FOR HIM TO GET IN THE BALLOT IN THE STATES.
BALLOT IN THE STATES.
BALLOT IN THE STATES. >> Heather: SO TECHNICALLY HE
>> Heather: SO TECHNICALLY HE
>> Heather: SO TECHNICALLY HE COULD IF HE DOESN'T -- IF HE
COULD IF HE DOESN'T -- IF HE
COULD IF HE DOESN'T -- IF HE FEELS LIKE BIDEN'S GOT IT, WHO
FEELS LIKE BIDEN'S GOT IT, WHO
FEELS LIKE BIDEN'S GOT IT, WHO CAN SAY?
CAN SAY?
CAN SAY? >> WHAT A SKUNK TO THE PARTY
>> WHAT A SKUNK TO THE PARTY
>> WHAT A SKUNK TO THE PARTY THAT WOULD BE.
THAT WOULD BE.
THAT WOULD BE. AND IN THIS ELECTION WHEN PEOPLE
AND IN THIS ELECTION WHEN PEOPLE
AND IN THIS ELECTION WHEN PEOPLE THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO UNITE
THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO UNITE
THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO UNITE AND DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP, THAT
AND DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP, THAT
AND DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP, THAT WOULD -- THAT WOULD NOT BE THE
WOULD -- THAT WOULD NOT BE THE
WOULD -- THAT WOULD NOT BE THE WAY TO DO IT.
WAY TO DO IT.
WAY TO DO IT. CAN I JUST ADD ONE THING I THINK
CAN I JUST ADD ONE THING I THINK
CAN I JUST ADD ONE THING I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT?
IS REALLY IMPORTANT?
IS REALLY IMPORTANT? >> THE LAST WORD BECAUSE LYNDSAY
>> THE LAST WORD BECAUSE LYNDSAY
>> THE LAST WORD BECAUSE LYNDSAY WILL STAY WITH ME AND TALK FOR
WILL STAY WITH ME AND TALK FOR
WILL STAY WITH ME AND TALK FOR THE NEXT HALF HOUR?
THE NEXT HALF HOUR?
THE NEXT HALF HOUR? >> NEXT WEEK, 15th, IS THE
>> NEXT WEEK, 15th, IS THE
>> NEXT WEEK, 15th, IS THE DEBATE.
DEBATE.
DEBATE. IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT
IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT
IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SEEING
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SEEING
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SEEING WHAT LOOKS LIKE A TWO-PERSON
WHAT LOOKS LIKE A TWO-PERSON
WHAT LOOKS LIKE A TWO-PERSON RACE.
RACE.
RACE. THERE MAY BE ELIZABETH WARREN ON
THERE MAY BE ELIZABETH WARREN ON
THERE MAY BE ELIZABETH WARREN ON THE STAGE, THERE MAY NOT BE, BUT
THE STAGE, THERE MAY NOT BE, BUT
THE STAGE, THERE MAY NOT BE, BUT THAT'S A VERY GOD FORMAT, FORUM
THAT'S A VERY GOD FORMAT, FORUM
THAT'S A VERY GOD FORMAT, FORUM FOR BERNIE SANDERS, HE'S AN
FOR BERNIE SANDERS, HE'S AN
FOR BERNIE SANDERS, HE'S AN IDEALUE, WHICH MEANS HE
IDEALUE, WHICH MEANS HE
IDEALUE, WHICH MEANS HE UNDERSTANDS HIS ARGUMENTS INSIDE
UNDERSTANDS HIS ARGUMENTS INSIDE
UNDERSTANDS HIS ARGUMENTS INSIDE OUT.
OUT.
OUT. THERE'S NOT ANY WAY TO KNOCK HIM
THERE'S NOT ANY WAY TO KNOCK HIM
THERE'S NOT ANY WAY TO KNOCK HIM OFF THAT.
OFF THAT.
OFF THAT. >> Heather: THIS IS JUST WHO HE
>> Heather: THIS IS JUST WHO HE
>> Heather: THIS IS JUST WHO HE IS.
IS.
IS. >> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. THERE ARE BIG QUESTIONS RAISED
THERE ARE BIG QUESTIONS RAISED
THERE ARE BIG QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT BIDEN'S DEBATE
ABOUT BIDEN'S DEBATE
ABOUT BIDEN'S DEBATE PERFORMANCE.
PERFORMANCE.
PERFORMANCE. NOW INTO IN NEXT PHASE OF THE
NOW INTO IN NEXT PHASE OF THE
NOW INTO IN NEXT PHASE OF THE CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS VERY
CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS VERY
CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT WITH ONLY MAYBE TWO OF
DIFFERENT WITH ONLY MAYBE TWO OF
DIFFERENT WITH ONLY MAYBE TWO OF THEM ON THE STAGE, THAT COULD BE
THEM ON THE STAGE, THAT COULD BE
THEM ON THE STAGE, THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT EVENTS
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT EVENTS
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT EVENTS OF THE CAMPAIGN.
OF THE CAMPAIGN.
OF THE CAMPAIGN. >> Heather: I THINK ABOUT
>> Heather: I THINK ABOUT
>> Heather: I THINK ABOUT HILLARY AND DONALD TRUMP --
HILLARY AND DONALD TRUMP --
HILLARY AND DONALD TRUMP -- THAT'S GENERAL ELECTION TIME,
THAT'S GENERAL ELECTION TIME,
THAT'S GENERAL ELECTION TIME, BUT ONCE YOU GET INTO THAT,
BUT ONCE YOU GET INTO THAT,
BUT ONCE YOU GET INTO THAT, YOU'RE QUITE RIGHT.
YOU'RE QUITE RIGHT.
YOU'RE QUITE RIGHT. EVERYTHING CHANGES.
EVERYTHING CHANGES.
EVERYTHING CHANGES. DO YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE SOME
DO YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE SOME
DO YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE SOME RADIO OBLIGATIONS, SOURE YOU'RE
RADIO OBLIGATIONS, SOURE YOU'RE
RADIO OBLIGATIONS, SOURE YOU'RE NOT COME BACK EITHER.
NOT COME BACK EITHER.
NOT COME BACK EITHER. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TWO
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TWO
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TWO DAYS.
DAYS.
DAYS. >> SO WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOU HERE
>> SO WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOU HERE
>> SO WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOU HERE IN PERSON.
IN PERSON.
IN PERSON. COME BACK ANY TIME.
COME BACK ANY TIME.
COME BACK ANY TIME. >> Heather: I WOULD BE VERY
>> Heather: I WOULD BE VERY
>> Heather: I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO, AND YOU, SIR, WE LOVED
HAPPY TO, AND YOU, SIR, WE LOVED
HAPPY TO, AND YOU, SIR, WE LOVED HAVING YOU BACK.
HAVING YOU BACK.
HAVING YOU BACK. YOU'LL BE RIGHT ONLINE, WE CAN
YOU'LL BE RIGHT ONLINE, WE CAN
YOU'LL BE RIGHT ONLINE, WE CAN READ YOUR ANALYSIS PIECES
READ YOUR ANALYSIS PIECES
READ YOUR ANALYSIS PIECES ONLINE.
ONLINE.
ONLINE. WHEN IS THE NEXT ONE COMING OUT?
WHEN IS THE NEXT ONE COMING OUT?
WHEN IS THE NEXT ONE COMING OUT? >> ONE WENT UP YESTERDAY AND I
>> ONE WENT UP YESTERDAY AND I
>> ONE WENT UP YESTERDAY AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE NECKS ONE
DON'T KNOW WHEN THE NECKS ONE
DON'T KNOW WHEN THE NECKS ONE IS.
IS.
IS. >> Heather: CLEARLY THAT BRAIN
>> Heather: CLEARLY THAT BRAIN
>> Heather: CLEARLY THAT BRAIN IS STILL WORKING OVERTIME.
IS STILL WORKING OVERTIME.
IS STILL WORKING OVERTIME. >> THE CLIMATE REALLY AGREES
>> THE CLIMATE REALLY AGREES
>> THE CLIMATE REALLY AGREES WITH ME.
WITH ME.
WITH ME. I AGREE WITH IT.
I AGREE WITH IT.
I AGREE WITH IT. >> Heather: THANK YOU TO YOUR
>> Heather: THANK YOU TO YOUR
>> Heather: THANK YOU TO YOUR QUESTIONS TO OUR INCREDIBLE
QUESTIONS TO OUR INCREDIBLE
QUESTIONS TO OUR INCREDIBLE GUESTS, AND THANK YOU AGAIN TO
GUESTS, AND THANK YOU AGAIN TO
GUESTS, AND THANK YOU AGAIN TO BOTH OF YOU.
BOTH OF YOU.
BOTH OF YOU. YOU ARE WATCHING OUR COVERAGE,
YOU ARE WATCHING OUR COVERAGE,
YOU ARE WATCHING OUR COVERAGE, POSTSUPER TUESDAY HERE ON CBC
POSTSUPER TUESDAY HERE ON CBC
POSTSUPER TUESDAY HERE ON CBC NEWS NETWORK.
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