>>> A VERY IMPRESSIVE WIN FOR BILL CLINTON, ESPECIALLY IN THE

BILL CLINTON, ESPECIALLY IN THE BIG PIVOTAL STATES OF TEXAS AND

BIG PIVOTAL STATES OF TEXAS AND FLORIDA.

FLORIDA. >> IT IS ONLY TONIGHT THAT I

>> IT IS ONLY TONIGHT THAT I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CALL

FULLY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CALL THIS SUPER TUESDAY.

THIS SUPER TUESDAY. >> BILL CLINTON TONIGHT, WHO WAS

>> BILL CLINTON TONIGHT, WHO WAS EARLY PERCEIVED AS THE

EARLY PERCEIVED AS THE FRONTRUNNER AND RAN INTO A PATCH

FRONTRUNNER AND RAN INTO A PATCH OF PERSONAL DIFFICULTIES, MAKES

OF PERSONAL DIFFICULTIES, MAKES A CLAIM TONIGHT ON THE IDEA THAT

A CLAIM TONIGHT ON THE IDEA THAT HE IS THE FRONTRUNNER FOR THE

HE IS THE FRONTRUNNER FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

DEMOCRATS. >> THAT WAS TOM BROKAW’S

>> THAT WAS TOM BROKAW’S COVERAGE OF SUPER TUESDAY 28

COVERAGE OF SUPER TUESDAY 28 YEARS AGO WHEN A YOUNG BILL

YEARS AGO WHEN A YOUNG BILL CLINTON, THE COMEBACK KID, TOOK

CLINTON, THE COMEBACK KID, TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A NEW GROUPING OF

ADVANTAGE OF A NEW GROUPING OF SOUTHERN PRIMARIES IN 1992,

SOUTHERN PRIMARIES IN 1992, SWEEPING THE SOUTH ON SUPER

SWEEPING THE SOUTH ON SUPER TUESDAY AND COMPLETING A RETURN

TUESDAY AND COMPLETING A RETURN THAT HE HAD BEGUN IN NEW

THAT HE HAD BEGUN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.

HAMPSHIRE. TOM JOINS US NOW, ALONG WITH

TOM JOINS US NOW, ALONG WITH SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER FOR

SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER FOR NBC NEWS DIGITAL, SHANNON

NBC NEWS DIGITAL, SHANNON PETTYPIECE AND NATIONAL POLITICS

PETTYPIECE AND NATIONAL POLITICS REPORTER FOR "THE NEW YORK

REPORTER FOR "THE NEW YORK TIMES" JENNIFER MEDINA.

TIMES" JENNIFER MEDINA. >> TOM, ONCE AGAIN, SUPER

>> TOM, ONCE AGAIN, SUPER TUESDAY SHOWS WHY IT IS SUPER

TUESDAY SHOWS WHY IT IS SUPER FOR THE CANDIDATE THAT WINS.

FOR THE CANDIDATE THAT WINS. ONCE AGAIN, IT IS BLACK

ONCE AGAIN, IT IS BLACK DEMOCRATIC VOTERS THAT MAKE ALL

DEMOCRATIC VOTERS THAT MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENT IN THE WORLD.

THE DIFFERENT IN THE WORLD. >> WELL, JOE, AS I WAS WATCHING

>> WELL, JOE, AS I WAS WATCHING ALL OF THAT, I WAS THINKING

ALL OF THAT, I WAS THINKING ABOUT, THAT WAS FOR BILL CLINTON

ABOUT, THAT WAS FOR BILL CLINTON ABOUT HIS 20th COMEBACK OF THAT

ABOUT HIS 20th COMEBACK OF THAT YEAR ALONE.

YEAR ALONE. HE WAS MAKING A COMEBACK EVERY

HE WAS MAKING A COMEBACK EVERY OTHER WEEK, AS YOU MAY RECALL.

OTHER WEEK, AS YOU MAY RECALL. IT BEGAN WITH SCANDALS THAT WERE

IT BEGAN WITH SCANDALS THAT WERE GOING ON IN ARKANSAS, BOTH

GOING ON IN ARKANSAS, BOTH PERSONAL AND THAT HAD MONEY

PERSONAL AND THAT HAD MONEY ATTACHED TO THEM AS WELL.

ATTACHED TO THEM AS WELL. HE WAS ALWAYS CLAIMING A

HE WAS ALWAYS CLAIMING A VICTORY.

VICTORY. THEN, OF COURSE, HE GOT TO THE

THEN, OF COURSE, HE GOT TO THE PLACE WHERE HE WAS GOING TO BE

PLACE WHERE HE WAS GOING TO BE THE CANDIDATE, BECAUSE HE WAS

THE CANDIDATE, BECAUSE HE WAS KIND OF BORN TO RUN FOR

KIND OF BORN TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT FROM THE BEGINNING OF

PRESIDENT FROM THE BEGINNING OF HIS LIFE ON.

HIS LIFE ON. NO ONE HAS GONE THROUGH MORE, I

NO ONE HAS GONE THROUGH MORE, I SUPPOSE, INCARNATIONS THAN BILL

SUPPOSE, INCARNATIONS THAN BILL CLINTON.

CLINTON. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEN AND

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEN AND NOW AS I KEEP SAYING IS, YOU

NOW AS I KEEP SAYING IS, YOU CANNOT OVERESTIMATE THE IMPACT

CANNOT OVERESTIMATE THE IMPACT OF SOCIAL MEDIA.

OF SOCIAL MEDIA. EVERYBODY HAS THEIR FINGER ON A

EVERYBODY HAS THEIR FINGER ON A KEY STROKE SOMEWHERE.

KEY STROKE SOMEWHERE. YOU CAN’T TRUST MOST OF WHAT YOU

YOU CAN’T TRUST MOST OF WHAT YOU ARE SEEING, FRANKLY, THESE DAYS.

ARE SEEING, FRANKLY, THESE DAYS. IT MOVES A WHOLE LANDSCAPE

IT MOVES A WHOLE LANDSCAPE AROUND.

AROUND. THE FACT IS THAT, FIVE DAYS AGO

THE FACT IS THAT, FIVE DAYS AGO THEY WERE SAYING JOE IS A NICE

THEY WERE SAYING JOE IS A NICE GUY BUT IT’S OVER.

GUY BUT IT’S OVER. THERE WAS JOE BACK THE PLACE HE

THERE WAS JOE BACK THE PLACE HE LIKES TO BE, MAKING A BIG

LIKES TO BE, MAKING A BIG SPEECH, BEING TRIUMPHANT AGAIN.

SPEECH, BEING TRIUMPHANT AGAIN. WHAT I’M SAYING IS, THIS IS A

WHAT I’M SAYING IS, THIS IS A HUGELY IMPORTANT WEEK.

HUGELY IMPORTANT WEEK. IT AIN’T OVER.

IT AIN’T OVER. >> MIKE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT

>> MIKE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT NEW HAMPSHIRE IN OUR LAST HOUR.

NEW HAMPSHIRE IN OUR LAST HOUR. WE SAT THERE ON THE SET WITH JOE

WE SAT THERE ON THE SET WITH JOE BIDEN IN THAT RESTAURANT IN

BIDEN IN THAT RESTAURANT IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE.

MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. IN SOME WAYS, IT FELT LIKE IT

IN SOME WAYS, IT FELT LIKE IT WAS ALREADY OVER.

WAS ALREADY OVER. HE SAW THE WRITING ON THE WALL.

HE SAW THE WRITING ON THE WALL. HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO COME IN

HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO COME IN FOURTH OR FIFTH IN NEW

FOURTH OR FIFTH IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.

HAMPSHIRE. PEOPLE SAID HE LOST A STEP.

PEOPLE SAID HE LOST A STEP. THERE WAS ALMOST A FUNERAL FEEL

THERE WAS ALMOST A FUNERAL FEEL TO IT, LIKE WE WERE -- SOME

TO IT, LIKE WE WERE -- SOME PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WERE

PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WERE COMING TO SAY GOOD-BYE

COMING TO SAY GOOD-BYE POLITICALLY TO JOE BIDEN AT SOME

POLITICALLY TO JOE BIDEN AT SOME OF THE EVENTS.

OF THE EVENTS. NOW HERE WE ARE THREE WEEKS

NOW HERE WE ARE THREE WEEKS LATER TALKING ABOUT HIM AGAIN AS

LATER TALKING ABOUT HIM AGAIN AS THE FRONTRUNNER IN THIS RACE.

THE FRONTRUNNER IN THIS RACE. >> YOU KNOW, TO THAT POINT AND

>> YOU KNOW, TO THAT POINT AND THE POINT YOU, TOM, RAISED IS IT

THE POINT YOU, TOM, RAISED IS IT IS AMAZING TO ME THE NUMBER OF

IS AMAZING TO ME THE NUMBER OF CANDIDATES AND THE PEOPLE

CANDIDATES AND THE PEOPLE SURROUNDING CANDIDATES FOR

SURROUNDING CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT THIS YEAR AND FOR THE

PRESIDENT THIS YEAR AND FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF CYCLES, WHO THINK

PAST COUPLE OF CYCLES, WHO THINK THAT TWITTER IS THE UNIVERSE.

THAT TWITTER IS THE UNIVERSE. THEIR CAMPAIGNS AND THOUGHTS ARE

THEIR CAMPAIGNS AND THOUGHTS ARE MOLDED BY WHAT THEY SEE ON

MOLDED BY WHAT THEY SEE ON TWITTER.

TWITTER. IN THE RESTAURANT THAT YOU WERE

IN THE RESTAURANT THAT YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT, IN BARBER SHOPS

SPEAKING ABOUT, IN BARBER SHOPS AROUND THE COUNTRY, IN GAS

AROUND THE COUNTRY, IN GAS STATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY, NOT

STATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT TWITTER ALL DAY LONG.

TWITTER ALL DAY LONG. >> THE OTHER THING IS THAT IF

>> THE OTHER THING IS THAT IF YOU LISTEN TO THE LAST COUPLE OF

YOU LISTEN TO THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, A WHOLE BUNCH OF THOSE

DAYS, A WHOLE BUNCH OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERVIEWED

PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERVIEWED SAID, I MADE UP MY MIND IN THE

SAID, I MADE UP MY MIND IN THE LAST 12 HOURS OR SO.

LAST 12 HOURS OR SO. I’VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT, BUT

I’VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT, BUT I HAVE A BUSINESS TO RUN, I HAVE

I HAVE A BUSINESS TO RUN, I HAVE KIDS TO GET TO SCHOOL, I HAVE

KIDS TO GET TO SCHOOL, I HAVE THINGS THAT I WANT TO DO.

THINGS THAT I WANT TO DO. WE’RE CONSUMED BY IT.

WE’RE CONSUMED BY IT. THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS IS, NO

THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS IS, NO BETTER EXAMPLE OF BEING AMBUSHED

BETTER EXAMPLE OF BEING AMBUSHED BY EVENTS THAN THIS HEALTH

BY EVENTS THAN THIS HEALTH CRISIS WE’RE GOING THROUGH.

CRISIS WE’RE GOING THROUGH. THIS IS OF ENORMOUS PROPORTIONS.

THIS IS OF ENORMOUS PROPORTIONS. IT HAS NO BOUNDARIES.

IT HAS NO BOUNDARIES. WE DON’T HAVE A WAY OF

WE DON’T HAVE A WAY OF CONTROLLING IT.

CONTROLLING IT. THE VERY BEST PEOPLE IN THE

THE VERY BEST PEOPLE IN THE FIELD ARE SAYING, MAYBE IN A

FIELD ARE SAYING, MAYBE IN A YEAR OR A YEAR AND A HALF WE

YEAR OR A YEAR AND A HALF WE WILL HAVE A GRIP ON THIS OF SOME

WILL HAVE A GRIP ON THIS OF SOME KIND.

KIND. IN THE MEANTIME, PEOPLE ARE

IN THE MEANTIME, PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WHAT DO I DO?

SAYING, WHAT DO I DO? WHAT DO I DO ABOUT MY CHILDREN,

WHAT DO I DO ABOUT MY CHILDREN, MY WORKPLACE?

MY WORKPLACE? WE’RE GOING THROUGH A REAL

WE’RE GOING THROUGH A REAL TRANSITION BOTH POLITICALLY,

TRANSITION BOTH POLITICALLY, SCIENTIFICALLY, ECONOMICALLY.

SCIENTIFICALLY, ECONOMICALLY. THE WORLD IS A MUCH DIFFERENT

THE WORLD IS A MUCH DIFFERENT PLACE TODAY THAN IT WAS TEN DAYS

PLACE TODAY THAN IT WAS TEN DAYS AGO, QUITE HONESTLY.

AGO, QUITE HONESTLY. >> WANT TO GET TO SHANNON.

>> WANT TO GET TO SHANNON. YOU ARE WRITING ABOUT SUPER

YOU ARE WRITING ABOUT SUPER TUESDAY’S SILVER LINING FOR

TUESDAY’S SILVER LINING FOR TRUMP.

TRUMP. SHANNON, TELL US ABOUT IT.

SHANNON, TELL US ABOUT IT. >> WELL, I THINK THIS IS REALLY

>> WELL, I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOOD FLUS SNEWS AND BAD NEWS FOR

GOOD FLUS SNEWS AND BAD NEWS FOR TRUMP CAMPAIGN.

TRUMP CAMPAIGN. YOU SEE BIDEN DOING INCREDIBLY

YOU SEE BIDEN DOING INCREDIBLY WELL WITH SUBURBAN VOTERS, WITH

WELL WITH SUBURBAN VOTERS, WITH BLACK VOTERS.

BLACK VOTERS. YOU SEE LARGE DEMOCRATIC TURNOUT

YOU SEE LARGE DEMOCRATIC TURNOUT IN VIRGINIA AND NORTH CAROLINA

IN VIRGINIA AND NORTH CAROLINA THAT COULD BE INDICATORS FOR HOW

THAT COULD BE INDICATORS FOR HOW THINGS WILL GO IN MICHIGAN AND

THINGS WILL GO IN MICHIGAN AND PENNSYLVANIA.

PENNSYLVANIA. I THINK THAT’S THE DOWNSIDE FOR

I THINK THAT’S THE DOWNSIDE FOR TRUMP.

TRUMP. THE GOOD SIDE FOR THE TRUMP

THE GOOD SIDE FOR THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS TO THE POINT YOU

CAMPAIGN IS TO THE POINT YOU HAVE BEEN MAKING THAT THIS IS

HAVE BEEN MAKING THAT THIS IS FAR FROM OVER.

FAR FROM OVER. THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS WANTED

THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS WANTED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING FOR THIS

FROM THE VERY BEGINNING FOR THIS NOMINATING PROCESS TO DRAG OUT

NOMINATING PROCESS TO DRAG OUT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.

AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. THEIR DREAM SCENARIO WOULD BE A

THEIR DREAM SCENARIO WOULD BE A CONTESTED CONVENTION.

CONTESTED CONVENTION. WITH SANDERS STILL IN STRIKING

WITH SANDERS STILL IN STRIKING DISTANCE, THEY ARE HOPING THAT

DISTANCE, THEY ARE HOPING THAT AT THE END, IF BIDEN IS THE

AT THE END, IF BIDEN IS THE NOMINEE, HE COMES OUT BRUISED,

NOMINEE, HE COMES OUT BRUISED, BLOODIED, BROKE, LOW ON MONEY,

BLOODIED, BROKE, LOW ON MONEY, WHILE THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS HAD

WHILE THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS HAD THAT TIME TO FOCUS ON RALLIES

THAT TIME TO FOCUS ON RALLIES AND FOCUS ON THEIR OWN ATTACKS