>> Sandra: BRAND-NEW REACTION THIS MORNING FROM A BOMBSHELL

THIS MORNING FROM A BOMBSHELL NEW "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORT ON

NEW "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORT ON BUT DON'T ACT ON BOLTON'S

BUT DON'T ACT ON BOLTON'S UPCOMING BOOK.

UPCOMING BOOK. THE NEWSPAPER REPORTING THE

THE NEWSPAPER REPORTING THE PRESIDENT TOLD HIS FORMER

PRESIDENT TOLD HIS FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR BUT

NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR BUT MILITARY AID TO UKRAINE WAS TIED

MILITARY AID TO UKRAINE WAS TIED TO AN INVESTIGATION OF THE

TO AN INVESTIGATION OF THE BIDENS.

BIDENS. LET'S BRING IN DOUG COLLINS, A

LET'S BRING IN DOUG COLLINS, A TRUMPET IMPEACHMENT TEAM MEMBER.

TRUMPET IMPEACHMENT TEAM MEMBER. GOOD MORNING TO YOU, THANK YOU

GOOD MORNING TO YOU, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

FOR BEING HERE. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> Sandra: I WILL ASK YOU THE

>> Sandra: I WILL ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION I JUST USED AT

SAME QUESTION I JUST USED AT SOL WISENBERG AT THE TOP OF THE

SOL WISENBERG AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR.

HOUR. HOW DOES THIS CHANGE THINGS?

HOW DOES THIS CHANGE THINGS? >> IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

>> IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. THE ISSUE HERE IS, HOW DO WE GO

THE ISSUE HERE IS, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT THIS PROCESS?

ABOUT THIS PROCESS? TAKING AFFECT THE DEMOCRATS

TAKING AFFECT THE DEMOCRATS PRESENTED IN THE SENATE.

PRESENTED IN THE SENATE. DO THEY MAKE THEIR CASE OR DID

DO THEY MAKE THEIR CASE OR DID THEY NOT MAKE?

THEY NOT MAKE? IT'S AMAZING TO ME, AGAIN, WE

IT'S AMAZING TO ME, AGAIN, WE ARE HAVING SELECTIVE LEAKS AT

ARE HAVING SELECTIVE LEAKS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

THIS POINT IN TIME. IT SHOULD BE INTERESTING TO

IT SHOULD BE INTERESTING TO ANYONE HOW THIS HAPPEN.

ANYONE HOW THIS HAPPEN. REMEMBER, RIGHT BEFORE THE

REMEMBER, RIGHT BEFORE THE ARTICLES WERE VOTED IN THE

ARTICLES WERE VOTED IN THE HOUSE, WE HAD THE DEMOCRATIC

HOUSE, WE HAD THE DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE ACTUALLY

COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE LEV PARNAS ISSUE.

TALK ABOUT THE LEV PARNAS ISSUE. IT'S ALWAYS COMING UP AT A

IT'S ALWAYS COMING UP AT A MOMENT IN WHICH THE CASE OF THE

MOMENT IN WHICH THE CASE OF THE WEEK IS PRETTY AS THE BOTTOM

WEEK IS PRETTY AS THE BOTTOM LINE, NOTHING IN WHAT WE'VE SEEN

LINE, NOTHING IN WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR, AND IT SIMPLY LEAKED

SO FAR, AND IT SIMPLY LEAKED PARTS OF THE TRANSCRIPT, HAS

PARTS OF THE TRANSCRIPT, HAS CHANGE THE BASE AND FACTS OF

CHANGE THE BASE AND FACTS OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THERE WAS NO CONDITIONALITY,

THERE WAS NO CONDITIONALITY, THEY GOT THE AID.

THEY GOT THE AID. THE DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY ON

THE DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY ON HOW THAT WENT ABOUT DOESN'T

HOW THAT WENT ABOUT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING EXCEPT IT GOES

CHANGE ANYTHING EXCEPT IT GOES BACK TO SHOW THAT IF HE IS SUCH

BACK TO SHOW THAT IF HE IS SUCH A RELEVANT WITNESS NOW, WHY WAS

A RELEVANT WITNESS NOW, WHY WAS HE NOT SUCH A RELEVANT WITNESS

HE NOT SUCH A RELEVANT WITNESS FOR THE HOUSE, AND WHY DID

FOR THE HOUSE, AND WHY DID ADAM SCHIFF HAVE TO PLEAD TO THE

ADAM SCHIFF HAVE TO PLEAD TO THE SENATE TO CALL PEOPLE NOW?

SENATE TO CALL PEOPLE NOW? BECAUSE HE'S SCARED OF THEM

BECAUSE HE'S SCARED OF THEM GOING TO COURT?

GOING TO COURT? THIS IS WHY THIS PROCESS --

THIS IS WHY THIS PROCESS -- >> Melissa: THEY CLAIM THERE

>> Melissa: THEY CLAIM THERE HAS BEEN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

HAS BEEN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REVEALED SINCE THAT TIME

I WILL ASK YOU NOW BASED ON THE

I WILL ASK YOU NOW BASED ON THE GROWING CALLS FOR MEMBERS OF

GROWING CALLS FOR MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN PARTY IN THE SENATE TO

YOUR OWN PARTY IN THE SENATE TO HEAR FROM ADDITIONAL WITNESSES

HEAR FROM ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND JOHN BOLTON.

AND JOHN BOLTON. MITT ROMNEY, IT'S VERY LIKELY I

MITT ROMNEY, IT'S VERY LIKELY I WILL BE IN FAVOR WITNESSES.

WILL BE IN FAVOR WITNESSES. DOUG JONES, "THE SENATE NEEDS TO

DOUG JONES, "THE SENATE NEEDS TO HEAR FROM JOHN BOLTON."

HEAR FROM JOHN BOLTON." WE KNOW LISA MURKOWSKI,

WE KNOW LISA MURKOWSKI, SUSAN COLLINS, AND OTHERS HAVE

SUSAN COLLINS, AND OTHERS HAVE SAID THEY ARE OPEN TO WITNESSES.

SAID THEY ARE OPEN TO WITNESSES. SO DO YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE MORE

SO DO YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE MORE MODERATE MEMBERS OF YOUR PARTY

MODERATE MEMBERS OF YOUR PARTY LEANING TOWARD WITNESSES?

LEANING TOWARD WITNESSES? >> I THINK YOU SEE MITT ROMNEY

>> I THINK YOU SEE MITT ROMNEY LEANING TOWARD IT, AND

LEANING TOWARD IT, AND DOUG JONES' DEMOCRAT.

DOUG JONES' DEMOCRAT. SO HE WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME.

SO HE WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME. IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW

IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW DOUG JONES VOTES ON REMOVING

DOUG JONES VOTES ON REMOVING THIS PRESIDENT, AND TELLING THAT

THIS PRESIDENT, AND TELLING THAT TO THE VOTERS OF ALABAMA.

TO THE VOTERS OF ALABAMA. LOOKING AT THIS GOING FORWARD,

LOOKING AT THIS GOING FORWARD, THE QUESTION BECOMES THIS.

THE QUESTION BECOMES THIS. AS A NEW INFORMATION?

AS A NEW INFORMATION? NOT REALLY.

NOT REALLY. ADAM SCHIFF COULD HAVE

ADAM SCHIFF COULD HAVE SUBPOENAED JOHN BOLTON, WENT

SUBPOENAED JOHN BOLTON, WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN THE

THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN THE HOUSE.

HOUSE. HE CHOSE NOT TO.

HE CHOSE NOT TO. LET'S REMEMBER THAT THIS IS

LET'S REMEMBER THAT THIS IS BECAUSE THE CALENDAR AND CLOCK

BECAUSE THE CALENDAR AND CLOCK WERE AGAINST THEM.

WERE AGAINST THEM. THE CALENDAR AND CLOCK WANTED TO

THE CALENDAR AND CLOCK WANTED TO DO THIS BEFORE THE END OF THE

DO THIS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

YEAR. THEY HAD NO DESIRE AND

THEY HAD NO DESIRE AND ADAM SCHIFF ADMITTED ON THE

ADAM SCHIFF ADMITTED ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE, "WE

FLOOR OF THE SENATE, "WE COULD'VE DONE THAT BUT WE

COULD'VE DONE THAT BUT WE WOULD'VE HAD TO GO TO COURT."

WOULD'VE HAD TO GO TO COURT." THAT'S AMAZING COMING FROM A

THAT'S AMAZING COMING FROM A LAWYER NOT WANTED TO FOLLOW THE

LAWYER NOT WANTED TO FOLLOW THE PROCESSES ALREADY HAVING BEEN

PROCESSES ALREADY HAVING BEEN SET.

SET. THERE'S A LOT OF HEADLINES TODAY

THERE'S A LOT OF HEADLINES TODAY BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACTUAL

DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACTUAL PATTERN AND I'M NOT SURE HOW

PATTERN AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH IT ACTUALLY CHANGES WITH

MUCH IT ACTUALLY CHANGES WITH THIS GROWING CONCERN.

THIS GROWING CONCERN. I'VE HEARD ONE PERSON,

I'VE HEARD ONE PERSON, MITT ROMNEY.

MITT ROMNEY. THE OTHERS HAVE ALWAYS SAID, "WE

THE OTHERS HAVE ALWAYS SAID, "WE WILL SEE HOW THE CASE GOES

WILL SEE HOW THE CASE GOES FORWARD."

FORWARD." >> Sandra: IN THE CASE OF

>> Sandra: IN THE CASE OF SUSAN COLLINS, LISA MURKOWSKI,

SUSAN COLLINS, LISA MURKOWSKI, AND OTHERS, THEY HAVE SAID THEY

AND OTHERS, THEY HAVE SAID THEY WILL LISTEN THROUGHOUT THE TRIAL

WILL LISTEN THROUGHOUT THE TRIAL AND THEY ARE OPEN TO

WITNESSES FOR REPUBLICANS

WOULD BE NEEDED, OF COURSE, TO

WOULD BE NEEDED, OF COURSE, TO JOIN DEMOCRATS IN THE

JOIN DEMOCRATS IN THE witnesses for Republicans

witnesses for Republicans SKULL FOR

SKULL FOR would be needed, of course, to

would be needed, of course, to WITNESSES.

WITNESSES. join Democrats in the

join Democrats in the "THE NEW YORK TIMES" THIS

"THE NEW YORK TIMES" THIS MORNING SAYS JOHN ROBERTS CAN

CALL WITNESSES.

CALL WITNESSES. WILLIE?

WILLIE? IF THIS WERE TO EVENTUALLY

IF THIS WERE TO EVENTUALLY HAPPEN, AND WE DID GO DOWN THE

HAPPEN, AND WE DID GO DOWN THE PATH OF WITNESSES, JOHN ROBERTS

PATH OF WITNESSES, JOHN ROBERTS WHO COME INTO PLAY OF THE

WHO COME INTO PLAY OF THE PRESIDENT NEEDED EXECUTIVE

PRESIDENT NEEDED EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE.

PRIVILEGE. AT WHAT YOU SEE POTENTIAL

AT WHAT YOU SEE POTENTIAL HAPPENING THERE, CONGRESSMAN?

HAPPENING THERE, CONGRESSMAN? >> WHAT WE DISCUSSED ABOUT YOUR

>> WHAT WE DISCUSSED ABOUT YOUR PREVIOUS GUESTS, ONCE THIS GOES

PREVIOUS GUESTS, ONCE THIS GOES FOR THERE HAS TO BE AREAS IN THE

FOR THERE HAS TO BE AREAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, ESPECIALLY THE ONES

WHITE HOUSE, ESPECIALLY THE ONES CLOSEST TO THE PRESIDENT, DOING

CLOSEST TO THE PRESIDENT, DOING WHATEVER OUR PRESIDENT HAS DONE.

WHATEVER OUR PRESIDENT HAS DONE. THAT'S THE FIGHT FOR THE

THAT'S THE FIGHT FOR THE INTEGRITY.

INTEGRITY. for Republicans

THEY HAVE AN INHERENT RIGHT TO

THEY HAVE AN INHERENT RIGHT TO KEEP THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITHIN

KEEP THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITHIN THEMSELVES.

THEMSELVES. REMEMBER, JOHN DEAN WAS A

REMEMBER, JOHN DEAN WAS A WITNESS IN OUR JUDICIARY

WITNESS IN OUR JUDICIARY COMMITTEE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO

COMMITTEE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING MUELLER

WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING MUELLER AND THE ROLE OF THOSE COMING

AND THE ROLE OF THOSE COMING FORWARD AND TESTIFYING ABOUT

FORWARD AND TESTIFYING ABOUT CONVERSATIONS OF THE PRESIDENT.

CONVERSATIONS OF THE PRESIDENT. JOHN DEAN HAD AN INTERESTING

JOHN DEAN HAD AN INTERESTING COMMENT.

COMMENT. HE SAID, "WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL

HE SAID, "WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL HOW YOU GO DOWN THIS ROAD.

HOW YOU GO DOWN THIS ROAD. YOU MAY WANT THIS NOW, BUT ARE

YOU MAY WANT THIS NOW, BUT ARE YOU ACTUALLY TAKING AWAY FROM

YOU ACTUALLY TAKING AWAY FROM THE PRESIDENT, THE VERY TOOL HE

THE PRESIDENT, THE VERY TOOL HE NEEDS TO DO THE JOB?

NEEDS TO DO THE JOB? IT WILL SIMPLY NOT SHORTEN IT.