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  • David: Let's talk about who's behind the ultimate scam.

  • We're going to find the fraudsters.

  • Only on your Marketplace.

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  • David: We are in India, on the trail of a criminal gang.

  • Can you go inside the building now?

  • There's a good chance they've targeted you.

  • All right. They're going in.

  • They're nervous but they're going in.

  • We're tracking down the fraudsters behind a very

  • convincing scam.

  • David: Ever heard that message?

  • Well, it's a lie, not the real Canada Revenue Agency.

  • David: Instead, it's one of the largest cyber schemes

  • in Canadian history.

  • David: But who falls for it?

  • In Canada, this man did.

  • 3,600.

  • This one is 7,000.

  • David: That makes it $10,600.

  • And this one is 28,000.

  • David: And then finally, $28,000.

  • Yes.

  • David: He's asked us to hide his identity,

  • worried his employer will judge him,

  • and he'll lose his job.

  • So, we're calling him Joe.

  • You got a call from someone saying they were with

  • the Canada Revenue Agency.

  • What did they say to you?

  • David: In that call, they said you owed how much money?

  • 7,000.

  • David: The scammers can spoof numbers,

  • make it look like they're the CRA.

  • That's why so many of us take the call.

  • David: So they've gone from saying $7,000,

  • to now it's $32,000?

  • Yes.

  • David: What impact has all of this had on your health?

  • David: He's not alone.

  • In just five years, Canadian authorities have received more

  • than 60,000 complaints, over $10 million stolen.

  • And those numbers keep rising.

  • Why do you think it's been so successful?

  • Because it's so well-organized.

  • David: Mark Simchison used to lead the Major Fraud Unit of the

  • Hamilton police.

  • The criminals are using victim vulnerability,

  • and it's not every day and every Canadian citizen that is being

  • victimized by this.

  • It is the vulnerable, the elderly, new immigrants

  • to Canada, that may not know all of our laws.

  • David: He says this super-scam goes beyond fraud.

  • I'd also term it as extortion.

  • They are threatening people with arrest,

  • incarceration, deportation, you name it.

  • That's extortion.

  • It goes beyond fraud.

  • David: Even as we investigate the calls,

  • like many of you, we're getting harassed by them, too.

  • David: We want to find the scammers.

  • Step one...is calling them back.

  • Yes, hello.

  • I am calling because of a message received

  • to call you back.

  • It said that money was owed?

  • David: We know this is a scam.

  • You went into this store?

  • To this store.

  • David: All right, let's take a look.

  • This location, with this machine.

  • David: But Gehangir Rashidi did not.

  • He's originally from Iran and believed a government could

  • actually do this.

  • How did this start?

  • David: What did you think when you heard?

  • It's a huge amount.

  • David: The total amount he paid?

  • David: His life savings, gone, disappeared

  • into an untraceable Bitcoin machine.

  • After hearing his story, it's time for us to

  • confront the scammers.

  • My name is David Common.

  • I'm a journalist at a television program called CBC Marketplace,

  • a Canadian TV show.

  • I'm wondering why call centres in India are harassing Canadians

  • and pretending to be tax authorities when they aren't.

  • David: Why are you lying?

  • Why are you taking money from Canadians who don't owe money?

  • David: Yes, I am a journalist.

  • Do you feel honest with your work?

  • David: You feel honest? Because this is not honest.

  • David: Do you feel bad about what you do every day?

  • David: Do you just work for other people?

  • David: Minutes later, he admits where he's calling from.

  • Are you in Mumbai or are you in Pune?

  • David: You're from one of them?

  • David: That's the lead we've been waiting for.

  • After even more digging, we've narrowed down our search.

  • Off to Mumbai.

  • So...we're going to confront them in person.

  • While the scam ends up in Canadian homes,

  • it begins right here, in India.

  • David: Ritesh Bhatia is a top Indian

  • cyber security investigator.

  • David: But money isn't the only motivator

  • for the young scammers.

  • David: What they're not seeing is the other side.

  • David: He says the scammers are smart,

  • their technology is sophisticated,

  • constantly changing tactics to stay hidden.

  • When you see the phone number, it looks like its a Canadian

  • number, not an Indian number.

  • David: And, he says, there's a reason the callers are asking

  • for the money in Bitcoin.

  • David: When you hand that money over, it is gone.

  • It's gone.

  • David: Two years ago, the largest call centre scam in this

  • country's history came to an abrupt end,

  • all because investigators in this police station found out

  • what was going on, ultimately arresting hundreds of people.

  • So how long have you been police commissioner here?

  • The top cop behind the raid was Param Bir Singh.

  • David: They lived a great life, the ringleaders?

  • David: A private jet?

  • David: That gives you a sense of just how much money

  • was involved here.

  • David: You have taken action on this scam.

  • That's right.

  • David: Do you think that it is still operating?

  • David: But our detective work shows it has not been wiped out.

  • There are new scammers in town.

  • Don't go anywhere.

  • We have information on where a call centre has been operating,

  • and this is around the time that they would begin making calls to

  • places like Canada.

  • We're going to try to confront them,

  • coming right up on Marketplace.

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  • cbc.ca /marketplace.

  • David: This is your Marketplace.

  • It's one of the largest cyber schemes in

  • Canadian history.

  • Fake CRA calls threatening thousands of Canadians.

  • -This call is from the Canada Revenue Agency...

  • David: And after months of digging,

  • we've traced those fake CRA calls to India.

  • David: Yup, yeah, okay.

  • Inside this complex is an illegal call centre set up to

  • impersonate tax authorities, threaten honest people,

  • and steal millions.

  • Which one is the call centre?

  • We've hired Sudhir Kotian to go inside,

  • to help us find the scammers.

  • He fits the profile-- young, tech savvy,

  • and hungry for work.

  • Did you hear them asking for money?

  • David: $7,000?

  • David: But then...they discover Sudhir's hidden camera.

  • What did they do to you when they realized?

  • First, they slapped me.

  • David: They slapped you. And then what did they do?

  • They punching on my back, pulling my hair.

  • David: Pulling your hair.

  • Did they take the camera from you?

  • Yes.

  • David: Right away, and did they--

  • They take my mobile.

  • David: They took your phone.

  • My phone. My purse.

  • David: Your wallet. Did you have money in there?

  • -Yeah. -David: You had money?

  • -2500 rupees. -David: 2,500 rupees.

  • How did you get out?

  • David: The scammers were inside this office,

  • but we can't get in.

  • Soon after they found out we were on to them,

  • the place shut down.

  • You must have been scared.

  • Yeah.

  • David: These are serious people.

  • I think that they will kill me.

  • David: You were worried they would kill you.

  • Yeah.

  • David: Locked up. Run away.

  • Sudhir's okay, but it's clear we need to be careful.

  • As we continue our chase to find an active scam centre,

  • we need the inside scoop.

  • Meet whistleblower Jayesh Dubey.

  • It was big money.

  • David: More than you would make anywhere else?

  • David: Just two years ago, he worked at a different scam

  • centre, following a script and impersonating

  • an American tax agent.

  • David: You're threatening people.

  • You're saying they could go to jail,

  • they could get arrested.

  • David: That sound familiar?

  • Back in Canada, Joe says he fell for that script,

  • and it cost him over $36,000.

  • This is a difficult question to ask now,

  • but why did you stay on the phone with him,

  • and not say, "I need to hang up and call my accountant,"

  • or do some research?

  • David: We want to talk to those so-called officers.

  • And with night falling in Mumbai,

  • it's morning in Canada, so young scammers

  • are getting ready to make calls.

  • Our Intel suggests they're doing it here-- one of the sketchiest

  • slums in Mumbai.

  • We're just minutes away now from an apartment where we know a

  • call centre has been operating.

  • We know these people are dangerous.

  • We also know this area can be dangerous.

  • And so we're working with some local Indian journalists

  • to help us get inside.

  • But after driving past the address,

  • our helpers have a warning.

  • Do you think we can safely go in the building?

  • David: Can't do it. And why is that?

  • What is the danger?

  • David: With worries that people watching the building are

  • armed, and knowing we'll stand out,

  • our helpers are going inside solo.

  • Outside, hidden from view, we wait.

  • And then our helpers call.

  • So, the call centre has moved out?

  • -They've-- they've-- -Moved out, yes, yes.

  • David: They've-- they realized someone was on to them?

  • But then, our man on the inside hangs up,

  • and sends this urgent text message...

  • So, it's now clear to us this area is dangerous,

  • that we need to get out, that we're being watched,

  • and that the people who went into the building for us,

  • they're being followed.

  • This is worrying.

  • We need to get out of the area fast.

  • Kilometres away, we catch up with those helping us.

  • And they are scared.

  • We know there was a call centre in that apartment.

  • -Yeah. David: But it's gone?

  • David: To escape.

  • David: Chased on foot, then on motorcycle.

  • This criminal gang wants to protect themselves,

  • and has already shown a willingness to be violent.

  • And why do you think they were following you?

  • David: We may not have caught the scammers this time,

  • but as we close in, their call centres shut down.

  • And as far as we know, this is the closest any journalist has

  • ever come to confronting them.

  • Cybersecurity investigator Ritesh Bhatia says the scam

  • centres always seem to be one step ahead.

  • David: What you're talking about sounds like organized crime.

  • David: It's huge!

  • David: You mean the police are profiting?

  • David: So the scammers are giving the police money?

  • David: Jayesh agrees.

  • Do you think people, here in India,

  • who are doing this scam, feel safe?

  • David: Why do you say that?

  • David: Paying off the police here?

  • Yeah, yeah.

  • David: So what you're saying is that the police

  • are in on the scam, in this country.

  • David: Sounds like you're saying someone

  • needs to light a fire.

  • Yes. A big one.

  • David: Time to ask the police what they're doing to stop the

  • scam once and for all.

  • Nobody has contacted us from Canada.

  • David: No one's contacted you?

  • No one. No one contacted.

  • David: That doesn't seem right.

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  • David: Do you have a story you want us to investigate?

  • Right to us, Marketplace at CBC.ca.

  • David: This is your Marketplace.

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  • David: CRA scam centres in India

  • are fooling thousands of Canadians.

  • More than 60,000 complaints...millions

  • of dollars lost.

  • In 2016, Deputy Police Commissioner Parag Manere led a

  • raid, shutting down a huge illegal call centre targeting

  • North Americans.

  • Deputy Commissioner? David from CBC, Canada.

  • Hi.

  • David: We're about to enlighten him.

  • That same old scam is still going on with new tactics.

  • We have been able to see places where,

  • even in the last couple of weeks,

  • that call centres were in fact operating.

  • Does that surprise you?

  • David: But that's not what these ones are.

  • These ones are not those.

  • David: These ones are involved in that tax scam.

  • David: They're taking huge amounts of money and it's

  • operating out of this country once again.

  • David: So, what can the police do

  • to try to stop the bad minority?

  • David: So, who is responsible?

  • The top cop here, Commissioner Param Bir Singh,

  • he blames the RCMP.

  • David: No one has contacted you?

  • David: You're telling me 60,000 people,

  • at least, have complained in Canada

  • and nobody from Canada has told you anything?

  • David: And the only way he found out about it is by going

  • on the RCMP website yourself?

  • David: That doesn't seem right.

  • David: The Indian police, they were willing to talk to us.

  • But for more than two months, the RCMP, our own police,

  • refused our repeated

  • requests for an on camera interview.

  • And then, at the last moment, on the day of broadcast,

  • senior government officials called us up to say

  • they are now in contact with Indian police.

  • Even if, at this point, we have not yet seen any action.

  • Former Fraud Chief Mark Simchison says actions

  • speak louder than words.

  • What needs to be done in Canada and abroad to stop it,

  • given the experience that you have?

  • What would you say?

  • No one police service is going to do it.

  • No one government is going to do it.

  • It has to be a multijurisdictional task force

  • approach, where everybody's involved.

  • David: Sounds like you're saying someone

  • needs to light a fire.

  • Yes, a big one.

  • David: While we wait for that to happen,

  • CRA victim Gehangir Rashidi has a message for those who stole

  • all his money.

  • David: And what's that thing?

  • David: After losing $110,000, how does he move on?

  • Makda: Who is watching you?

  • Many people don't have the know-how

  • to secure their smart devices.

  • I don't know if you realize this,

  • but these cameras are actually broadcasting on the Internet.

  • -Really? -Makda: Yeah.

  • I didn't realize that anyone could have access to that.

  • It's almost as if the house is haunted.

  • If anybody, like, would walk into the situation,

  • they would think they're walking into a horror movie.

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